Author Topic: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread (Read 194678 times)

pilonv1 · « **Reply #780 on:** April 30, 2011, 10:42:10 PM »

there are places to watch online chrono

chronovore · « **Reply #781 on:** April 30, 2011, 11:04:01 PM »

Really? I know not of these things. I'll d/l after the fact, I just wanted to see Machida take a chance on putting BOTH feet off the ground on a takedown artist like Randy. What a gamble!

Thanks for the .gif!

pilonv1 · « **Reply #782 on:** April 30, 2011, 11:17:41 PM »

THERE IS A MUTANT ON MY SCREEN

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #783 on:** April 30, 2011, 11:22:40 PM »

Homnick is gonna lose this fight but that was a heck of a 5th round after that massive head trauma

pilonv1 · « **Reply #784 on:** April 30, 2011, 11:25:26 PM »

LOL 50-43 fucking idiot judges

pilonv1 · « **Reply #785 on:** April 30, 2011, 11:33:34 PM »

well it was a mistake

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #786 on:** April 30, 2011, 11:49:31 PM »

Look at that improved Shield's striking!

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #787 on:** April 30, 2011, 11:56:16 PM »

sigh. Well this boring.

Shields has nothing to offer here.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #788 on:** May 01, 2011, 12:02:29 AM »

Quote from: pilonv1 on April 30, 2011, 10:42:10 PM

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there are places to watch online chrono

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #789 on:** May 01, 2011, 12:15:57 AM »

Really boring fight which is why I never wanted to see this match-up. Not because either guy wasn't trying but because their styles were destined to create this match. Shields has shit stand up and a great ground game so GSP wasn't going to get in a ground war with him. He was going to slowly pick him apart on the feet but shields was going to be uber defensive on his feet so he didn't really get hurt. It felt like those Silva fights versus Leites and Maia which were also boring style matchups. Shields was completely outclassed and couldn't do anything better than GSP so it lead to an ugly style fight. the fact that it wasn't GSP's most impressive performance didn't help either. Hopefully this spurs them to do the superfight. Does anybody really want to see GSP maul another outclassed welterweight for 5 rounds.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #790 on:** May 01, 2011, 12:21:36 AM »

Worst main event i've ever seen. It was a sparring session.

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #791 on:** May 01, 2011, 12:21:54 AM »

smh @ GSP. Mentally weak, and I don't care what anyone says. Worse than the worst of Anderson's bullshit. Hominick impressed me infinitely more

Machida's career-ending Karate Kid KO was worth the PPV price, though

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #792 on:** May 01, 2011, 12:24:28 AM »

Quote from: OptimoPeach on May 01, 2011, 12:21:54 AM

smh @ GSP. Mentally weak, and I don't care what anyone says. Worse than the worst of Anderson's bullshit. Hominick impressed me infinitely more

Machida's career-ending Karate Kid KO was worth the PPV price, though

The Dragon really gave Captain America an honorable death.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #793 on:** May 01, 2011, 12:28:28 AM »

Just to be clear I don't have anything against GSP fights. I think he fights smart. I don't think he necessarily needs to knock out his opponents for me to be entertained. I think normally he does very damaging stuff on the ground. All you generally have to do is look at his opponent after the fight to know they've gotten their ass kicked. That's impressive to me whether he stops them or not. Tonight wasn't a great looking fight in that regard. But every fighter even champions occasionally have a less than impressive outing.

Skidmark · « **Reply #794 on:** May 01, 2011, 12:36:39 AM »

I am joining the gsp haters.

Skidmark · « **Reply #795 on:** May 01, 2011, 01:30:15 AM »

pilonv1 · « **Reply #796 on:** May 01, 2011, 02:18:25 AM »

GSP is the worst fucking fighter I've ever seen. I walked away after the second round, I wasn't keen on another 3 rounds of shadowboxing

Boogie · « **Reply #797 on:** May 01, 2011, 11:49:57 AM »

GSP fight was shit.

Yep, I can admit it. First time that I have been genuinely bored by GSP. The eye injury can explain some of it, but he was fighting tentative and awkward even before that. Those winging overhand rights? I mean, it shows that you're throwing power shots trying to finish, but what happened to your varied striking game, Georges?

Anyway, outside of the ME, the event was INCREDIBLE. Obviously the Canadian fighters all got pops. Rory Macdonald started out with just a slight crowd reaction, but picked up enthusiasm throughout, and when he hit those slams? OHMYGAWD the place went insane!

Couture might have gotten the biggest reaction of the night. Everyone was on their feet for his retirement sendoff.

And my boy Hominick. Fought his heart out, did better than a lot thought he would do. And though he lost, that fifth round was a hell of a moral victory. Crowd was ridiculous for that whole round.

Great experience. If the main event had even been decent, it might have been the best UFC card ever.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #798 on:** May 01, 2011, 11:55:55 AM »

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

I just can't tell if Machida and Anderson are trolling us or what.

chronovore · « **Reply #799 on:** May 01, 2011, 06:21:11 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on May 01, 2011, 11:55:55 AM

(youtube=560,345)

I just can't tell if Machida and Anderson are trolling us or what.

Boogie · « **Reply #800 on:** May 01, 2011, 08:21:12 PM »

and damn if I wasn't wearing my heart on my sleeve for Mark's fight.

He got great cheers just for being a Canadian in a title fight at the start, but by that fifth round, he became a legitimate Canadian MMA favourite. I wish he could have won the fight, but if he had to lose, this was the best it could have happened. And I'm so glad my brotha got PAID for that fight.

Same for Rory Macdonald. Mild pop to start with, but he earned his cheers by the end.

Two new Canadian stars were made last night, at least for this country.

And I think it definitely proved that the UFC can handle stadium shows. The experience was just as good as in Montreal. Better, actually, by virtue of a much stronger card and more amazing fights, even though I was further up (in the 500s).

dicklaurent · « **Reply #801 on:** May 01, 2011, 09:13:14 PM »

hehehe. nice interview with seagal

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #802 on:** May 02, 2011, 02:51:26 PM »

That's a pretty bad eye poke right there. I don't blame GSP for not being able to see.

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

pilonv1 · « **Reply #803 on:** May 03, 2011, 11:28:24 PM »

A one eyed GSP should still be able to fuck Shields over.

T234 · « **Reply #804 on:** May 04, 2011, 05:28:58 AM »

Any word yet on how bad GSP's eye really is, like is there permanent damage?

Skidmark · « **Reply #805 on:** May 04, 2011, 05:40:41 AM »

Quote from: T234 on May 04, 2011, 05:28:58 AM

Any word yet on how bad GSP's eye really is, like is there permanent damage?

http://mmajunkie.com/news/23460/champ-georges-st-pierre-ok-after-ufc-129-eye-injury-expected-to-recover.mma

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #806 on:** May 07, 2011, 11:57:34 PM »

Pacquiao versus Mosely is about to start. Should be an obvious dusting of Mosley by Pac but that's why they fight.

Boogie · « **Reply #807 on:** May 07, 2011, 11:58:34 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on May 07, 2011, 11:57:34 PM

Pacquiao versus Mosely is about to start. Should be an obvious dusting of Mosley by Pac but that's why they fight.

Will be following the PBP with interest.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #808 on:** May 08, 2011, 12:52:17 AM »

Fight is over. As expected it was utterly one sided. They each got a knockdown but Pac being knocked down was more a wrestling move.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #809 on:** May 12, 2011, 06:03:25 PM »

http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/news/story?id=6535275

Skidmark · « **Reply #810 on:** May 12, 2011, 08:34:19 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on May 12, 2011, 06:03:25 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/news/story?id=6535275

Chicken salad out of chicken shit, amiright?

pilonv1 · « **Reply #811 on:** May 12, 2011, 10:09:44 PM »

poor brock

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #812 on:** May 28, 2011, 09:12:58 AM »

Not an especially good card tonight.

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Preliminary card (Facebook)

Bantamweight bout: Renan Barão vs. Cole Escovedo
Bantamweight bout: Michael McDonald vs. Chris Cariaso
Lightweight bout: Gleison Tibau vs. Rafaello Oliveira

Preliminary card (Spike TV)

Middleweight bout: Kendall Grove vs. Tim Boetsch
Bantamweight bout: Miguel Torres vs. Demetrious Johnson

Main card

Middleweight bout: Brian Stann vs. Jorge Santiago
Welterweight bout: Thiago Alves vs. Rick Story
Heavyweight bout: Stefan Struve vs. Travis Browne
Heavyweight bout: Frank Mir vs. Roy Nelson
Light Heavyweight bout: Quinton Jackson vs. Matt Hamill

Skidmark · « **Reply #813 on:** May 28, 2011, 07:20:28 PM »

My picks:
Jackson
Nelson
Struve
Thiago
Santiago

Skidmark · « **Reply #814 on:** May 29, 2011, 12:53:32 AM »

Mir to hospital with broken jaw, Struve, Santiago to hospital to be checked. Stann has a broken thumb but doesn't care. #typicalMarine

http://twitter.com/#!/ufc/status/74688805352914944

chronovore · « **Reply #815 on:** May 29, 2011, 07:04:12 AM »

I saw your broken jaw comment and was seriously worried for a moment or two.

Boogie · « **Reply #816 on:** June 01, 2011, 07:47:04 PM »

GSP/Diaz, October 29th, in Vegas.

Nick Diaz, prepare to get wrestlefucked.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #817 on:** June 01, 2011, 11:01:22 PM »

Good on Dana for making the fight. And I like Diaz and will root for him for the upset but it seems highly unlikely he will be able to deal with the wrestling of GSP.

chronovore · « **Reply #818 on:** June 02, 2011, 12:06:52 AM »

What are your guys' thoughts on Fedor vs. Hendo?

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #819 on:** June 02, 2011, 10:05:39 PM »

Quote from: chronovore on June 02, 2011, 12:06:52 AM

What are your guys' thoughts on Fedor vs. Hendo?

It's hard to get a sense on how much Fedor really has left. But at this point I think Hendo could beat him.

Boogie · « **Reply #820 on:** June 02, 2011, 10:10:38 PM »

Quote from: chronovore on June 02, 2011, 12:06:52 AM

What are your guys' thoughts on Fedor vs. Hendo?

I'm surprisingly indifferent on the fight.

chronovore · « **Reply #821 on:** June 02, 2011, 10:49:22 PM »

One thing's for sure, Hendo is definitely going to be training his ass off.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #822 on:** June 18, 2011, 09:14:57 PM »

Good HW fight tonight

Heavyweight Grand Prix Quarterfinal bout: Alistair Overeem vs. Fabricio Werdum
Heavyweight Grand Prix Quarterfinal bout: Josh Barnett vs. Brett Rogers
Lightweight bout: K.J. Noons vs. Jorge Masvidal
Heavyweight bout: Daniel Cormier vs. Jeff Monson
Heavyweight bout: Valentijn Overeem vs. Chad Griggs

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #823 on:** June 19, 2011, 12:00:40 AM »

Shit fight between Overeem and Werdum. Both of these guys would get dusted in the UFC by the top guys.

chronovore · « **Reply #824 on:** June 19, 2011, 02:04:08 AM »

Yeah, the PRIDE guys are largely past their prime now. Rampage and Anderson Silva withstanding.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #825 on:** June 20, 2011, 02:43:15 AM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on June 19, 2011, 12:00:40 AM

Shit fight between Overeem and Werdum. Both of these guys would get dusted in the UFC by the top guys.

Werdum got dusted by 2007-08 UFC heavyweights.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #826 on:** June 27, 2011, 09:02:02 AM »

everyone needs to go out of their way to check out the UFC on Versus main event of Barry v Kongo

also

@ Marquardt

chronovore · « **Reply #827 on:** June 27, 2011, 09:06:59 AM »

So... Marquardt was having a little trouble reaching his ideal weight? Maybe he was investing in protein supplements?

pilonv1 · « **Reply #828 on:** June 28, 2011, 02:04:49 AM »

Not a weight cutting issue, it's a medical issue. Will be revealed tomorrow, Penn has some stringent privacy laws regarding medical stuff

chronovore · « **Reply #829 on:** June 28, 2011, 09:21:34 AM »

Marquardt's a transsexual?! I knew Dana hated the idea of women in the Octagon, but I never thought he'd take it this far!

pilonv1 · « **Reply #830 on:** June 28, 2011, 07:33:44 PM »

Turns out he's just a dumbshit

chronovore · « **Reply #831 on:** June 29, 2011, 07:54:15 AM »

What's the deal with "Testosterone Replacement Therapy"...? I'd never heard of it before MMA, and here there seem to be a number of these fighters being treated for it. Is it just an easy, theoretically legal loophole in the rules against doping?

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #832 on:** June 29, 2011, 07:59:23 AM »

I've been late to this story since I've been out of town. Not exactly sure what happened. Why is Dana so upset here versus the Sonnen situation which didn't seem to bother him at all?

chronovore · « **Reply #833 on:** June 29, 2011, 08:01:41 AM »

Because Dana doesn't like Anderson Silva and Chael almost kicked Anderson's ass? And Nate is almost always the almost-top-contender?

There is a very biased but insightful article, here:
http://www.mmamania.com/2011/6/29/2249566/nate-marquardt-chael-sonnen-and-testosterone-replacement-therapy-in

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #834 on:** June 29, 2011, 08:14:53 AM »

Yeah that's what bothers me. Admittedly I haven't read up about everything on this issue but it seems like Nate handled this situation comparatively well to someone like Sonnen. And all Dana does is kiss Sonnen's ass and he seems to have thrown Nate under the bus here.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #835 on:** June 29, 2011, 08:43:49 AM »

Quote from: chronovore on June 29, 2011, 07:54:15 AM

What's the deal with "Testosterone Replacement Therapy"...? I'd never heard of it before MMA, and here there seem to be a number of these fighters being treated for it. Is it just an easy, theoretically legal loophole in the rules against doping?

Right, here's the deal

If you go to a doctor and have low testosterone (pay attention later), you can get a doctor to prescribe you shots to raise your testosterone to your normal level. Nate was taking this therapy, took some shots a number of weeks before the fight and by the time he had to take his medical the levels were still too high.

Only two fighters in Nevada history have been licenced for testosterone replacement - Dan Henderson and Todd Duffee. The Sonnen situation was completely different, he made up about 100 stories including he had talked to Nevada State Athletic Commision head Keith Kizer (he didn't) who said it was ok for him to take it, he didn't put his therapy on the pre-fight medical sheet, also claimed he was having the therapy twice a week which is more regular than usual as well. This is also along with his real estate licence fiasco.

So anyway what can cause your testosterone to drop? Cycling off steroids, since your testosterone levels are through the roof when you're using them. Why is this important?

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Although his debut ended in success – Marquardt earned a decision victory over UFC veteran Ivan Salaverry – post-fight drug testing controversy led to Marquardt's suspension by the Nevada State Athletic Commission. Marquardt tested positive for high levels of nandrolone, an anabolic steroid, which led the commission to file for his suspension. Marquardt maintains that he only used over-the-counter supplements in preparation for his fight.

Common way of getting legal testosterone replacement for wrestlers is to get tested when they're off their cycle so their testosterone is at it's lowest.

Almost everyone in MMA is on something. Current drug testing which is at weigh ins or day of the fight is basically an IQ test.

chronovore · « **Reply #836 on:** June 29, 2011, 08:55:14 AM »

Ah, thanks.

So you're saying they're both on drugs. $:-\$

pilonv1 · « **Reply #837 on:** July 31, 2011, 07:51:01 AM »

ahahahahhahahahaha

title change pls

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #838 on:** July 31, 2011, 12:07:18 PM »

Didn't see the fight but yeah, you know it's bad when Fedor losing again isn't even big news.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #839 on:** July 31, 2011, 12:53:43 PM »

God is dead, Boogie

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Author Topic: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread (Read 194678 times)