Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads

[bork]

BTW comics on the iPhone 6 are

I can actually read pages with the phone held vertically now.  Was worth it for that alone.

[bork]

Also Himu, that same team did a great one-shot called The Pro, about a super-powered hooker.  Worth reading.  It's not about sex and is only mildly-nsfw.

[benjipwns]

So I had put off ever reading anything from the New 52 until I killed off my old DC universe backlog. (Not counting stuff "outside it", in other words I'm only talking about anything involving people in the JLA/JSA.) Finally just randomly this week I decided to finish off the last bundle of stuff through Brightest Day and into Flashpoint.

Got Court of Owls, JLI, Stormwatch, Batwoman and some other New 52 stuff sitting on the floor now with more to come. Can't wait to go through all the cancellations, bad editorial decisions and botched launches!

This may be the stupidest dumb fan thing I've ever done. Also in a weird way I'm kinda like deep down mildly angry at them "rebooting" the universe. Like Booster Gold + Final Crisis + Blackest Night had this kind of "this DC universe is my DC history" cementing effect on me since I really only comprehended the DC Universe as a thing well after the original Crisis so that "reboot" is like the start of my experience with DC, my Superman, Batman, Flash, etc. This may be the stupidest dumb fan thing I've ever felt.

[parallax]

Someone please tell me what the fuck is going on in Marvel? I went to my Comic shop tonight and they've got New X-Factor (WHAT HAPPENED TO THE OLD MULTIPLE MAN X-FACTOR TEAM THIS IS IMPORTANT), New Avengers, New this, New that, and I have no inkling as to what the CHRIST. What's good in Marvel these days? WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO MY BELOVED X-FACTOR INVESTIGATIONS? Are all Spider-Man books still shit? What the Christ is the Spider-verse or whatever?

the new x-factor is pretty good so far. its done a real good job at humanizing pietro, and it has cypher and warlock, on top of gambit, which is a plus despite haters. i am kinda waiting for the other shoe to drop though. with all the shit going on behind the scenes, its bound to

spider-verse is a crossover even featuring many spider legacy related characters. or as i see it, slotts chance to kill off mayday once and for all. the tie ins have been ok ish so far.

So I had put off ever reading anything from the New 52 until I killed off my old DC universe backlog. (Not counting stuff "outside it", in other words I'm only talking about anything involving people in the JLA/JSA.) Finally just randomly this week I decided to finish off the last bundle of stuff through Brightest Day and into Flashpoint.

Got Court of Owls, JLI, Stormwatch, Batwoman and some other New 52 stuff sitting on the floor now with more to come. Can't wait to go through all the cancellations, bad editorial decisions and botched launches!

This may be the stupidest dumb fan thing I've ever done. Also in a weird way I'm kinda like deep down mildly angry at them "rebooting" the universe. Like Booster Gold + Final Crisis + Blackest Night had this kind of "this DC universe is my DC history" cementing effect on me since I really only comprehended the DC Universe as a thing well after the original Crisis so that "reboot" is like the start of my experience with DC, my Superman, Batman, Flash, etc. This may be the stupidest dumb fan thing I've ever felt.

honestly the only dc title im feeling right now is multiversity. and the reason i dont care for current dc is that i know characters that i wanted more from wont be seen again. empress and vulcan are gone. hell the former wasnt good enough to get a damn young justice cameo. and im sure if we see dr midnite again, hes gonna be involved with the court of owls. ill catch dc when something catches my eye, but for now, ill pass

[Eric P]

I'm a bronze age DC fan, so Nu52 is pretty much the worst to me.

that said, I'm enjoying the hell out of Grayson and really liked the first issue of Gotham Academy

[Mr. Nobody]

I was optimistic going into the new 52 but as time went on, more and more titles were dropped due to creative changes or just being plain mediocre/bad.

[Bebpo]

I find it tough to read comics with bad art.  How do you enjoy stuff that has good stories if the art looks like crap?

[bork]

I find it tough to read comics with bad art.  How do you enjoy stuff that has good stories if the art looks like crap?

If I really dislike the artwork, I don't read it.  Depends on the type of comic it is, too- for whatever reason I can tolerate mediocre artwork in non-superhero comics.

[bork]

Also in a weird way I'm kinda like deep down mildly angry at them "rebooting" the universe.

Don't worry, they're now hinting at the old one still being around. 

[benjipwns]

That's the same thing they're doing with the Abramsverse for Star Trek, the comic which is "canon unless countered by the films" is now hooking up with post-show Sisko and Picard and Janeway in the old timeline using Q as justification. 

spoiler (click to show/hide)

There's also been hints that after the third movie they're going to ditch it entirely and go back to the old Trek unless it makes an illegal amount of money. Apparently some people in suits are quite unhappy about JJ ditching for Star Wars.

[close]

[Himu]

Seems to me, Marvel Now is kicking the pants out of new 52.

[parallax]

Also in a weird way I'm kinda like deep down mildly angry at them "rebooting" the universe.

Don't worry, they're now hinting at the old one still being around. 

are they? i guess the reboot didnt do as well for them as they hoped. it makes me wonder why people want marvel to reboot the 616

[benjipwns]

It almost sorta bombed in many tiny ways from what little I had looked into it. The big books sold well, but creatively it sounds like they didn't fix any of the editorial infighting and so on it was supposed to take care of.

Should just kinda forget about it and put more resources into Earth One.

[Yeti]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=56038

SQUIRREL GIRL IS GETTING HER OWN COMIC

THE UNBEATABLE SQUIRREL GIRL

FUCK YEEESSSSSSSSSSS

[Howard Alan Treesong]

FUCK YEAH SQUIRREL GIRL

[Himu]

Fuck yes

[parallax]

i hope they keep it lighthearted. comics love fucking up and turning light hearted characters into depressing shells of themselves

[Rahxephon91]

Marvel is pretty good at making lighthearted comics....



going until they cancel them after 12 issues.

[Supermanisdead]

i'll check out that squirrel girl book, but i'm probably going to wait til it gets canceled so i can just get the single collected edition  :'(

[chronovore]

THE UNBEATABLE SQUIRREL GIRL
2015 - In Theaters.

I mean, c’mon, Guardians of the Galaxy -- Marvel’s trotting out the obscure shit to make hit movies from, because fanboys can’t get their entitlement up.

[Purple Filth]

Aside from seeing the Squirrel Girl news which is 

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON IN THESE COMICS NOWADAYS!!


Apparently Batman has a new origin or something, Peter was Doc Occ, there is a female thor (not a gender bent version of male thor), Arkham Asylum is now at Wayne Manor, plus some other stuff my mind cannot begin to wrap around ?



what the fuck is goin on?

[bork]

That's the same thing they're doing with the Abramsverse for Star Trek, the comic which is "canon unless countered by the films" is now hooking up with post-show Sisko and Picard and Janeway in the old timeline using Q as justification. 

spoiler (click to show/hide)

There's also been hints that after the third movie they're going to ditch it entirely and go back to the old Trek unless it makes an illegal amount of money. Apparently some people in suits are quite unhappy about JJ ditching for Star Wars.

[close]

Can't seem them going back to the old Star Trek for films.  Surely they made more money off those last two than the previous Star Trek movies did?

Seems to me, Marvel Now is kicking the pants out of new 52.

I dunno.  I find myself reading more DC books than I would have before.

Also in a weird way I'm kinda like deep down mildly angry at them "rebooting" the universe.

Don't worry, they're now hinting at the old one still being around. 

are they? i guess the reboot didnt do as well for them as they hoped. it makes me wonder why people want marvel to reboot the 616

I wouldn't mind a "reboot" that undoes some of the stupider shit like AvX.   

[benjipwns]

Can't seem them going back to the old Star Trek for films.  Surely they made more money off those last two than the previous Star Trek movies did?

The first one did the best of any of them in the US, but Into Darkness was adjusted for inflation close to some of the others in the US. Only because of the new overseas market did Into Darkness beat out the first movie more than half of its money was made overseas, and it wasn't a huge hit, which Trek never has been, and they have to figure out something when they lose Pine and Quinto anyway. (Among others, nobody's signed past a third movie.)

Rumor is the budgets being slashed way way down for the 2016 one.

I think there's more interest in doing a show again, especially with all the new models for TV series out there instead of having to be on a broadcast network. And then the Abramsverse becomes kinda irrelevant because it's more likely they reboot again than stick with it for a show.

[Joe Molotov]

Star Trek 4 should have young Picard, but make him still bald tho.

[benjipwns]

Nemesis already did it:

[chronovore]

Yeah, Nemesis did a lot of stuff.

None of it done well.

[parallax]

between this and multiversity, im excited for the future

then again, i love multiversal crossovers like this. its almost a guarantee to get me to pick up issues. (amalgam 3 when?)

[Tasty]

I dunno.  I find myself reading more DC books than I would have before.

Same. Batman Eternal is a great weekly series that satisfies my need to see the whole Bat-family in action, Snyder/Capullo's Batman run has yet to really disappoint (I can pick nits but it's a remarkable series*), Grayson is drop dead fantastic (seriously), and Justice League has gotten hella interesting with Lex on the team. They also finally got that hack Lobdell off of Teen Titans and re-re-re-rebooted it from #1 and it's actually decent now.

As for the New 52, it's up and down, same as comics always are. People try to sweep all the problems inherent in comics and the DC stable of characters under the New 52 rug and it just doesn't fly, IMO. Those problems would have existed anyways.  The yearly September events are hit and miss, Forever Evil was shallow but fun as hell while Future's End has been way too drawn out.

I'm probably kinder to New 52 than most because I like the idea of a single** (for the most part) streamlined universe, and it didn't really touch what was going on in Batman (although I do think Batman Inc should have stayed in the old DCU, and the idea of four Robins in five years is a bit... dumb.) And I liked some of the more superfluous changes such as changing Captain Marvel to Shazam.

* This week Batman #35 came out and you should run out and buy it, it's fantastic and kicks off a six-issue story called "Endgame" you don't want to be spoiled on.

**

Also in a weird way I'm kinda like deep down mildly angry at them "rebooting" the universe.

Don't worry, they're now hinting at the old one still being around. 

Indeed!



I think this'll play into the New 52 Anti-Monitor which Grant Morrison showed at the end of Forever Evil.

[Eric P]

I'm probably kinder to New 52 than most because I like the idea of a single** (for the most part) streamlined universe,

Valiant is doing this fairly well, I think.

But Grayson is very enjoyable, i'll agree with that.  New Batgirl was pretty cool.

[Tasty]

Still need to pick it up. I absolutely loved the first 8 or so pages that leaked a few weeks ago.

[Tasty]

Also, something cool about New 52 is that the New Gods (Darkseid et al) are singular entities and only one of them exist across all universes, kind of like... actual gods. I dunno, I think it's cool.

[bork]

Is Marvel now taking steps to fuck with Fox Studios?

Fox Studios has the rights to the X-Men and all the various mutant characters, whether they use them or not.  They're also making a new Fantastic Four movie.  You might have noticed that even though Quicksilver (who appeared in the last X-Men movie, sans his codename) and The Scarlet Witch are mutants, they had a cameo in the last Captain America movie and will be in the next Avengers film.

So what has Marvel been doing?  Well, one could look at all this as coincidence, but-

-Marvel did next to nothing to promote the last X-Men movie.  No merchandise tie-ins, no nothing.  Anything you saw was Fox.

-Wolverine is being slowly killed off.  They took away his healing factor (which the Wolverine movie did, too, leading to speculation that it was a tie-in to that, but he got his powers back by the end of the film) and there is a now mini-series about to end entitled "The Death Of Wolverine."

-The Fantastic Four comics are being canceled next year, which is when the film just so happens to be coming out.    Some cite low sales for this, but the comic sells about the same numbers as Captain America, which you'll notice was just recently a movie. 

-Marvel has been trying, in their comics, to make the Inhumans a big thing.  From what I can tell, it's been kind of a failure.  The Inhumans are a group of weird mutant-like characters that used to live on the moon (it's comics...roll with it) but now reside on Earth.  They recently did an event where this weird "mist" changed a large number of humans into Inhumans.  They are trying to treat the characters just like how mutants get treated (I.E., racism) in the comics.  A film is planned for 2017.

-There is now a new comic event that was just announced called "No More Mutants."  The teaser image shows...Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch.     There is speculation that they are going to be de-powered and then re-powered as...Inhumans.  And now that they're not mutants...HEY!  Marvel can use 'em in films!   

So now this has me wondering about Wolverine.  Are they possibly killing him off...so that they can resurrect him as a non-mutant?   

And if you're wondering about Spider-Man (Sony Pictures has the rights), apparently Marvel and Sony have a much better relationship.

[Tasty]

-There is now a new comic event that was just announced called "No More Mutants."  The teaser image shows...Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch.     There is speculation that they are going to be de-powered and then re-powered as...Inhumans.  And now that they're not mutants...HEY!  Marvel can use 'em in films!   

But... they're already using them?

Also, yes, Marvel is being super petty.

I did see that Sony might let them use Spidey, which is probably an unfounded rumor but I wouldn't be too surprised if it ended up happening (and I've been saying it's a slight possibility this entire time.) FF and X-Men are never going to be pried out of Fox's hands (well, FF might in the same way as Daredevil/Ghost Rider), but I never saw Sony as too concerned. And if Spidey in Avengers reverses the trend of each new Spidey movie making significantly less than the last, then all the better.

[bork]

-There is now a new comic event that was just announced called "No More Mutants."  The teaser image shows...Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch.     There is speculation that they are going to be de-powered and then re-powered as...Inhumans.  And now that they're not mutants...HEY!  Marvel can use 'em in films!   

But... they're already using them?

And now here's the reason why...I guess?   

They have all these characters they can use.  Wonder why it concerns them so much.

[Mr. Gundam]

-There is now a new comic event that was just announced called "No More Mutants."  The teaser image shows...Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch.     There is speculation that they are going to be de-powered and then re-powered as...Inhumans.  And now that they're not mutants...HEY!  Marvel can use 'em in films!   

But... they're already using them?

And now here's the reason why...I guess?   

They have all these characters they can use.  Wonder why it concerns them so much.

Both studios can use them because they're related to both Avengers and X-men. Marvel just can't reference them being mutants in the movies. This doesn't change anything.

[Rahxephon91]

It's really strange how they've been handling the X-men. The X-men have been able to be alone off in thier corner for awhile now, yet they've been perching members and making them appear in cross overs with the Avengers. Effectively integrating them more with the marvel universe.

They kill off Wolverine, but I don't think that has any secret agenda behind it. It really is "killing heroes makes money" type of thing. Though if they did somehow bring him back as a non-mutant then well fuck marvel.

They've taken characters like Cannonball, Rogue, Havok, and Sunspot and made them Avengers. Pulling them away from the xbooks. I really don't think this will make them be able to appear in Avengers movies or anything, but I really don't know why these characters are in Avenger books.

It's been said the X-Office is'nt supposed to make new characters. Hasn't stopped Bendis from making so many new characters that he can't even bother to develop them. Yet I guess Bendis can do that because he's a top creator. Yet there you go, Marvel put one of it's top creators on marvel. Even Brian Wood was able to create a new villain though.

I mean it's obvious that they want to push the Avengers more and the X-men may get the short stick of that. Yet, it's not like they can ignore one of thier better selling franchisees. I mean what would be the end goal here? Devalue the brand so Fox will sell it back? I don't see how crippling the comic books will effect the movies. The movies will do fine regardless of the books. It will be a long time before Fox would be 100% sure there's no point to making X-men movies. 

So you cripple the books and don't merchandise the franchisee. Well dosen't Marvel just loose out? Comic book sales go down and toy sales are left on the table. Doesn't Marvel still have the rights to merchandise?

I mean it does seem like X-men are getting the short end of the stick, but really to what end?

[parallax]

It's really strange how they've been handling the X-men. The X-men have been able to be alone off in thier corner for awhile now, yet they've been perching members and making them appear in cross overs with the Avengers. Effectively integrating them more with the marvel universe.

They kill off Wolverine, but I don't think that has any secret agenda behind it. It really is "killing heroes makes money" type of thing. Though if they did somehow bring him back as a non-mutant then well fuck marvel.

They've taken characters like Cannonball, Rogue, Havok, and Sunspot and made them Avengers. Pulling them away from the xbooks. I really don't think this will make them be able to appear in Avengers movies or anything, but I really don't know why these characters are in Avenger books.

It's been said the X-Office is'nt supposed to make new characters. Hasn't stopped Bendis from making so many new characters that he can't even bother to develop them. Yet I guess Bendis can do that because he's a top creator. Yet there you go, Marvel put one of it's top creators on marvel. Even Brian Wood was able to create a new villain though.

I mean it's obvious that they want to push the Avengers more and the X-men may get the short stick of that. Yet, it's not like they can ignore one of thier better selling franchisees. I mean what would be the end goal here? Devalue the brand so Fox will sell it back? I don't see how crippling the comic books will effect the movies. The movies will do fine regardless of the books. It will be a long time before Fox would be 100% sure there's no point to making X-men movies. 

So you cripple the books and don't merchandise the franchisee. Well dosen't Marvel just loose out? Comic book sales go down and toy sales are left on the table. Doesn't Marvel still have the rights to merchandise?

I mean it does seem like X-men are getting the short end of the stick, but really to what end?

nothing movie related, which is where the money is. any advertising puts money in fox' pockets, not theirs.

[Rahxephon91]

When the first X-Men movie came out they reissued many of the 90s Toy Biz toys. I know, I bought tons of them. Marvel also had thier recent Marvel Universe toy line that had plenty of X-men characters. They can't put these out when the movies are out? They don't have to have the movie branding, but surly the toys sell fine even if they are using the comics iconography?

Sure this would benefit Fox, but they would be riding that wave.

[parallax]

When the first X-Men movie came out they reissued many of the 90s Toy Biz toys. I know, I bought tons of them. Marvel also had thier recent Marvel Universe toy line that had plenty of X-men characters. They can't put these out when the movies are out? They don't have to have the movie branding, but surly the toys sell fine even if they are using the comics iconography?

Sure this would benefit Fox, but they would be riding that wave.

maybe there was a no compete clause in effect the moment marvel started their thing. or they didnt sell as well as official movie products.

[Rahxephon91]

Yeah even if toys sales weren't great. You still have a billion random things from towels to shirts to anything you see in Target, Khols, or walmart. Things I assume they could sell with the comic book iconography and not the movie's. X-men is a well known brand, but it sure is losing popularity and honestly thats Marvel's fault.

Though I think what makes them work better with Sony is that they do get a cut of the movie's actual merchandising. I wonder exactly what the X-men deal is though.

[parallax]

Yeah even if toys sales weren't great. You still have a billion random things from towels to shirts to anything you see in Target, Khols, or walmart. Things I assume they could sell with the comic book iconography and not the movie's. X-men is a well known brand, but it sure is losing popularity and honestly thats Marvel's fault.

Though I think what makes them work better with Sony is that they do get a cut of the movie's actual merchandising. I wonder exactly what the X-men deal is though.

except that even if that were the case, kids and casual fans will want the things with the movie characters on them. my cousin sees the wolverine, and tells me he wants a silver samurai figure(he didnt call him silver samurai, but the robot at the end of the movie) if he were to see the comic variant and the movie variant, he wouldnt give the comic version a second glance. when youre trying to compete 1 to 1 with a medium that has more exposure, youre gonna need one hell of a gimmick to keep up

[benjipwns]

Also, something cool about New 52 is that the New Gods (Darkseid et al) are singular entities and only one of them exist across all universes, kind of like... actual gods. I dunno, I think it's cool.

Technically, in the "Post Crisis" universe this was also true. Boomtubes were how you got to New Genesis and Apokolips's 'Fourth World' and then back to the universe.

But like anything it was really writer dependent and they had an overly interested focus on one universe in particular. It was much more prominent when they were Jack Kirby's little thing compared to later when they showed up every other week in everybodys books.

[Rahxephon91]

Yeah even if toys sales weren't great. You still have a billion random things from towels to shirts to anything you see in Target, Khols, or walmart. Things I assume they could sell with the comic book iconography and not the movie's. X-men is a well known brand, but it sure is losing popularity and honestly thats Marvel's fault.

Though I think what makes them work better with Sony is that they do get a cut of the movie's actual merchandising. I wonder exactly what the X-men deal is though.

except that even if that were the case, kids and casual fans will want the things with the movie characters on them. my cousin sees the wolverine, and tells me he wants a silver samurai figure(he didnt call him silver samurai, but the robot at the end of the movie) if he were to see the comic variant and the movie variant, he wouldnt give the comic version a second glance. when youre trying to compete 1 to 1 with a medium that has more exposure, youre gonna need one hell of a gimmick to keep up

I don't agree with this.

Because even the Marvel Avengers stuff dosen't look like the movie 100% of the time.

Just a quick search through Target.

http://www.target.com/p/avengers-sheet-set/-/A-13980847#prodSlot=medium_2_3&term=marvel
http://www.target.com/s?searchTerm=marvel&category=0%7CAll%7Cmatchallpartial%7Call+categories&lnk=snav_sbox_marvel#navigation=true&searchTerm=marvel&sortBy=bestselling&Nao=72&viewType=medium&category=0|All|matchallpartial|all+categories
http://www.target.com/p/avengers-throw/-/A-13982512#prodSlot=medium_3_3&term=marvel

I mean look at the Disney Infinity stuff. It looks nothing like the movies. I don't think Marvel has a problem with presenting tons of avengers merchandise that dosen't have the movies exact look. That stuff seems to do fine, so whats the problem with X-men?

Kids really won't pick up a Cyclops figure because it's not in black leather? Marvel has no problem putting out Wolverine in his comic look, so why not the other X-men? I doubt Wolverine things have problems selling because he dosen't look like Hugh Jackmen.

[parallax]

I don't agree with this.

Because even the Marvel Avengers stuff dosen't look like the movie 100% of the time.

Just a quick search through Target.

http://www.target.com/p/avengers-sheet-set/-/A-13980847#prodSlot=medium_2_3&term=marvel
http://www.target.com/s?searchTerm=marvel&category=0%7CAll%7Cmatchallpartial%7Call+categories&lnk=snav_sbox_marvel#navigation=true&searchTerm=marvel&sortBy=bestselling&Nao=72&viewType=medium&category=0|All|matchallpartial|all+categories
http://www.target.com/p/avengers-throw/-/A-13982512#prodSlot=medium_3_3&term=marvel

I mean look at the Disney Infinity stuff. It looks nothing like the movies. I don't think Marvel has a problem with presenting tons of avengers merchandise that dosen't have the movies exact look. That stuff seems to do fine, so whats the problem with X-men?

Kids really won't pick up a Cyclops figure because it's not in black leather? Marvel has no problem putting out Wolverine in his comic look, so why not the other X-men? I doubt Wolverine things have problems selling because he dosen't look like Hugh Jackmen.

the avengers arent in the same bucket. marvel has whole share over everything. its not competing with a fictional avengers series by universal. i dont think they feel that they are promoting a brand they have no control over, so they throw everything out there. as for infinity, all the guardians are based off of their movie appearances, while many of the spider man characters seem to be based off of their ult spider man appearances, and avengers off their avengers assemble appearances, not their comic counterparts.

as for why put wolverine in things, its because unlike cyclops, hes quite a popular character. and even then, look at how drowned out wolverine is from everything else avengers related. they throw some merch out there, but you can see that he isnt much of a factor.

[Supermanisdead]

Marvel has hated the X-Men since 2004. That's why they gave Joss Whedon and Ed Brubaker so much creative control.

[Rahxephon91]

I can't tell if that's sarcastic or not. Astonishing was good. Brubaker is fantastic, his run was meh though. Still they were top talent.

[StealthFan]

reusing the costume from that hulk movie :mjlol:

yeah i know it's a costume from the comics stfu

[chronovore]

Who the hell is that?

[StealthFan]

Daredevil from the tv show.

[Yeti]

[Purple Filth]

Aside from seeing the Squirrel Girl news which is 

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON IN THESE COMICS NOWADAYS!!


Apparently Batman has a new origin or something, Peter was Doc Occ, there is a female thor (not a gender bent version of male thor), Arkham Asylum is now at Wayne Manor, plus some other stuff my mind cannot begin to wrap around ?



what the fuck is goin on?

Any help here 

[Tasty]

Aside from seeing the Squirrel Girl news which is 

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON IN THESE COMICS NOWADAYS!!


Apparently Batman has a new origin or something, Peter was Doc Occ, there is a female thor (not a gender bent version of male thor), Arkham Asylum is now at Wayne Manor, plus some other stuff my mind cannot begin to wrap around ?



what the fuck is goin on?

Any help here 

I only really know the DC side of things though I've been trying to keep up with Spider-man.

- Batman's origin still has trappings of Year One but basically in Batman's first year, he encounters the Red Hood Gang (led by a pre-Joker Joker, as in DCU past) and dumps him into the vat of chemicals. Then Riddler takes over the city and turns it into a cross between I Am Legend and Gladiator. Then Batman beats his ass in the ultimate riddle or something. Read Batman: Zero Year, it's better than I make it out to be.

- Doc Ock was Spider-man for a bit after taking over Peter's body but Peter's mind was still there and Ock was going "I am the SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN! I'm way better than that other loser! Also I'll add Doc Ock's robo tentacles to my costume THAT WON'T BE SUSPICIOUS OR ANYTHING!" To Ock's credit he does manage to fool the dumbasses in Avengers into thinking he's really Peter. But then Peter pulls some Obi-Wan Kenobi shit after Ock hesitates saving some chick and Ock was all like "Peter, YOU are the superior Spider-man! I've basically been buttfucking your life for the past few months but now I'll take my leave, kthx." Then Peter shows up to stop Green Goblin who knew Ock was Spider-man, but then Peter cracks a wise about Gobby carrying a purse and Gobby goes "OMG it's the real Spider-man!" and Peter replies "The one and only." Which would be pretty badass but the current Spider-man event is called "Spider-verse" where there's LITERALLY A BILLION OTHER SPIDER-MEN AND WOMEN MEETING UP.

- The new Thor is a new character from my understanding. Old Thor can no longer lift Mjolnir because reasons (editorial.)

- Arkham isn't at Wayne Manor to my knowledge? But it has been taken over by the inmates. Batwing and Spectre (or rather Spectre's human vessel) were investigating it last I checked and got sucked into some hell dimension beneath it where this random character who found Joker's cut off face and is calling herself "the Joker's Daughter" (literally the worst idea by DC in the past 10 years, at least) is serving whoever is running things (they revealed who it was I just forgot.)

Read Batman (monthly, only Batman for the most part, a new storyline called Endgame just kicked off last issue) and Batman Eternal (weekly, involves the entire Bat-family and the lower-grade rogues, about halfway through its 52-issue run) if you want to stay caught up.

ALSO btw Alfred's niece is running the Batcave and stuff in Gotham and she's like a 007 agent or some type shit. ALSO Lex Luthor is on the Justice League AND knows Bruce is Batman. ALSO Dick Grayson the original Robin/Nightwing is presumed dead but that's just a cover he's a spy for this group called Spyral (so clever) and his series Grayson is actually really fucking awesome. ALSO I think Damian Wayne might be back or something, haven't been keeping up with Batman & Robin but Batman went to Apokolips cause that's where his body was for reasons ()

[Tasty]

Yes. Snyder says him and Capullo will probably end their run at around 50 issues. (Batman #35 was released last Wednesday.)

I like him. My only complaint is that he doesn't write Bruce's internal monologues the way I think they should be sometimes, but I love his consistency, attention to detail, and ideas for storylines. You should read Eternal, it's literally everything I've ever wanted from a Batman comic.

Batman #35 semi-spoilers:

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Btw I have a feeling you might not like Batman #35.

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[bork]

Aside from seeing the Squirrel Girl news which is 

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON IN THESE COMICS NOWADAYS!!


Apparently Batman has a new origin or something, Peter was Doc Occ, there is a female thor (not a gender bent version of male thor), Arkham Asylum is now at Wayne Manor, plus some other stuff my mind cannot begin to wrap around ?



what the fuck is goin on?

Any help here 

Spider-Man stuff:

spoiler (click to show/hide)

In brief, A dying Doctor Octopus mind-swaps with Spider-Man.  Spider-Man tries his best to get his body back, but in the end dies and convinces Ock to be a good guy, with great comes responsibility and all that.  Ock does do super heroics, but with an arrogant, mad inventor-like twist.  He also makes a number of Peter Parker/Spider-Man's friends hate him, gets a PhD, and starts his own company after being somewhat responsible for the lab he worked at being shut down.  While this is happening, the Green Goblin returns and builds up an army (literally) underground.  Part of Peter Parker is also still inside his original body, and he fights Ock for control, but loses and appears to be "erased".  However there's hints that he still exists and at the end of Superior Spider-Man, Ock realizes that he cannot beat the Green Goblin and erases himself from Peter's body, restoring Spider-Man back to normal.  Peter sends the Goblin packing but his life is now completely different and Amazing is focusing on the fallout from everything that happened. 

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During all this, Spider-Man 2099 goes back to the present day and gets trapped there.  He's now working at the corporation he fights in the future and keeping tabs on his evil grandfather.  He got his own new series recently.

On top of all that, a major retcon was done regarding Spider-Man's origin.  He now was not the only one bitten by the radioactive spider.  A female classmate was too, but she was locked away to prevent some major bad buy (Morlun, who apparently hunts down "spider avatars" and devours their souls or whatever) from finding her.  Spider-Man finds her and now she's a superhero called "Silk."  They also have some animal-like attraction between themselves and keep wanting to screw when close to each other.

The event Andrex was talking about, Edge Of Spider-Verse, relates to Morlun and his family.  They're going all over the multi-verse killing various versions of Spider-Man.  Edge is just the prequel to the Spider-Verse event and features Doc Ock Spidey gathering various Spider-Man characters in attempt to combat Morlun.  (This part of it takes place before the end of Superior)  It also has one-shot books focusing on various alternate versions of Spider-Man.  The one getting all the attention is a Spider-Woman who is actually Gwen Stacy in an alternate universe.  Marvel is going to be giving her a series, because Spider-Woman, Arachne, and Silk were not enough, it seems.

[parallax]

Aside from seeing the Squirrel Girl news which is 

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON IN THESE COMICS NOWADAYS!!


Apparently Batman has a new origin or something, Peter was Doc Occ, there is a female thor (not a gender bent version of male thor), Arkham Asylum is now at Wayne Manor, plus some other stuff my mind cannot begin to wrap around ?



what the fuck is goin on?

Any help here 

Spider-Man stuff:

spoiler (click to show/hide)

In brief, A dying Doctor Octopus mind-swaps with Spider-Man.  Spider-Man tries his best to get his body back, but in the end dies and convinces Ock to be a good guy, with great comes responsibility and all that.  Ock does do super heroics, but with an arrogant, mad inventor-like twist.  He also makes a number of Peter Parker/Spider-Man's friends hate him, gets a PhD, and starts his own company after being somewhat responsible for the lab he worked at being shut down.  While this is happening, the Green Goblin returns and builds up an army (literally) underground.  Part of Peter Parker is also still inside his original body, and he fights Ock for control, but loses and appears to be "erased".  However there's hints that he still exists and at the end of Superior Spider-Man, Ock realizes that he cannot beat the Green Goblin and erases himself from Peter's body, restoring Spider-Man back to normal.  Peter sends the Goblin packing but his life is now completely different and Amazing is focusing on the fallout from everything that happened. 

[close]

During all this, Spider-Man 2099 goes back to the present day and gets trapped there.  He's now working at the corporation he fights in the future and keeping tabs on his evil grandfather.  He got his own new series recently.

On top of all that, a major retcon was done regarding Spider-Man's origin.  He now was not the only one bitten by the radioactive spider.  A female classmate was too, but she was locked away to prevent some major bad buy (Morlun, who apparently hunts down "spider avatars" and devours their souls or whatever) from finding her.  Spider-Man finds her and now she's a superhero called "Silk."  They also have some animal-like attraction between themselves and keep wanting to screw when close to each other.

The event Andrex was talking about, Edge Of Spider-Verse, relates to Morlun and his family.  They're going all over the multi-verse killing various versions of Spider-Man.  Edge is just the prequel to the Spider-Verse event and features Doc Ock Spidey gathering various Spider-Man characters in attempt to combat Morlun.  (This part of it takes place before the end of Superior)  It also has one-shot books focusing on various alternate versions of Spider-Man.  The one getting all the attention is a Spider-Woman who is actually Gwen Stacy in an alternate universe.  Marvel is going to be giving her a series, because Spider-Woman, Arachne, and Silk were not enough, it seems.

i kinda want a little more of the edge of the spider verse.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

seeing amazing friends spidey and crew and unlimited spidey get killed

[close]

feels odd, yet hilarious

[Bebpo]

Finished the Dark Angel Saga of 2012's Uncanny X-Force (#1-18) by Rick Remender.  Really liked this one.  It's great how he took a 5 various X-related characters and gave them a ton of character depth and personality.  Fantomex was cool when introduced by Morrison, but this is where he really shines.  Psylocke/Archangel's stuff is good and Deadpool is really enjoyable in his supporting role.  The story is alright, but it's the characters that really carried this thing.  Plus the art's fricken gorgeous.  The inner monologues are often fantastic and

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Deathlock is great and hilarious as well.

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I love how Fantomex is like the down to earth realistic character going "man, this was a really bad decision joining this X-force thing".  Oh and his dialogues together with Deadpool are just perfect.  This run probably has the best character stuff out of the marvel comics I've read so far.  Really enjoyable.

Only thing I didn't like was:

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not killing off Arch-Angel.  There was this really nice sendoff death where Psylocke goes into his mind and makes him experience a happy long live with no regrets so he can die at peace.  First scene in the last few months of hundreds of comics that actually gave me a bit of the feels.  Then 3 pages later he's back to life and has amnesia, meh.  Guessing Marvel wouldn't let Remender kill Arch-Angel for good in this run.

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Now I'm at the part where it splits off between Remender continuing Uncanny X-Force and Age of Apocalypse issue #1 focusing on

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What's happening on the post-Age of Apocalypse total bleak everyone's fucked timeline.

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Not sure if the latter is any good since it's a different writer, but might read it anyhow to see what happens.  Will definitely finish the Remender Uncanny run.  The Dark Angel Saga would make a pretty solid hollywood X-force movie after they do Age of Apocalypse in the next X-men film.

[Supermanisdead]

That new Daredevil series looks fun, but I swear to god the minute Coulson, Fury or any of those SHIELD nerds show up, I'm out. Can't stand SHIELD and all the godawful actors on that show.

[Purple Filth]

Aside from seeing the Squirrel Girl news which is 

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON IN THESE COMICS NOWADAYS!!


Apparently Batman has a new origin or something, Peter was Doc Occ, there is a female thor (not a gender bent version of male thor), Arkham Asylum is now at Wayne Manor, plus some other stuff my mind cannot begin to wrap around ?



what the fuck is goin on?

Any help here 

I only really know the DC side of things though I've been trying to keep up with Spider-man.

- Batman's origin still has trappings of Year One but basically in Batman's first year, he encounters the Red Hood Gang (led by a pre-Joker Joker, as in DCU past) and dumps him into the vat of chemicals. Then Riddler takes over the city and turns it into a cross between I Am Legend and Gladiator. Then Batman beats his ass in the ultimate riddle or something. Read Batman: Zero Year, it's better than I make it out to be.

- Doc Ock was Spider-man for a bit after taking over Peter's body but Peter's mind was still there and Ock was going "I am the SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN! I'm way better than that other loser! Also I'll add Doc Ock's robo tentacles to my costume THAT WON'T BE SUSPICIOUS OR ANYTHING!" To Ock's credit he does manage to fool the dumbasses in Avengers into thinking he's really Peter. But then Peter pulls some Obi-Wan Kenobi shit after Ock hesitates saving some chick and Ock was all like "Peter, YOU are the superior Spider-man! I've basically been buttfucking your life for the past few months but now I'll take my leave, kthx." Then Peter shows up to stop Green Goblin who knew Ock was Spider-man, but then Peter cracks a wise about Gobby carrying a purse and Gobby goes "OMG it's the real Spider-man!" and Peter replies "The one and only." Which would be pretty badass but the current Spider-man event is called "Spider-verse" where there's LITERALLY A BILLION OTHER SPIDER-MEN AND WOMEN MEETING UP.

- The new Thor is a new character from my understanding. Old Thor can no longer lift Mjolnir because reasons (editorial.)

- Arkham isn't at Wayne Manor to my knowledge? But it has been taken over by the inmates. Batwing and Spectre (or rather Spectre's human vessel) were investigating it last I checked and got sucked into some hell dimension beneath it where this random character who found Joker's cut off face and is calling herself "the Joker's Daughter" (literally the worst idea by DC in the past 10 years, at least) is serving whoever is running things (they revealed who it was I just forgot.)

Read Batman (monthly, only Batman for the most part, a new storyline called Endgame just kicked off last issue) and Batman Eternal (weekly, involves the entire Bat-family and the lower-grade rogues, about halfway through its 52-issue run) if you want to stay caught up.

ALSO btw Alfred's niece is running the Batcave and stuff in Gotham and she's like a 007 agent or some type shit. ALSO Lex Luthor is on the Justice League AND knows Bruce is Batman. ALSO Dick Grayson the original Robin/Nightwing is presumed dead but that's just a cover he's a spy for this group called Spyral (so clever) and his series Grayson is actually really fucking awesome. ALSO I think Damian Wayne might be back or something, haven't been keeping up with Batman & Robin but Batman went to Apokolips cause that's where his body was for reasons ()

Aside from seeing the Squirrel Girl news which is 

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON IN THESE COMICS NOWADAYS!!


Apparently Batman has a new origin or something, Peter was Doc Occ, there is a female thor (not a gender bent version of male thor), Arkham Asylum is now at Wayne Manor, plus some other stuff my mind cannot begin to wrap around ?



what the fuck is goin on?

Any help here 

Spider-Man stuff:

spoiler (click to show/hide)

In brief, A dying Doctor Octopus mind-swaps with Spider-Man.  Spider-Man tries his best to get his body back, but in the end dies and convinces Ock to be a good guy, with great comes responsibility and all that.  Ock does do super heroics, but with an arrogant, mad inventor-like twist.  He also makes a number of Peter Parker/Spider-Man's friends hate him, gets a PhD, and starts his own company after being somewhat responsible for the lab he worked at being shut down.  While this is happening, the Green Goblin returns and builds up an army (literally) underground.  Part of Peter Parker is also still inside his original body, and he fights Ock for control, but loses and appears to be "erased".  However there's hints that he still exists and at the end of Superior Spider-Man, Ock realizes that he cannot beat the Green Goblin and erases himself from Peter's body, restoring Spider-Man back to normal.  Peter sends the Goblin packing but his life is now completely different and Amazing is focusing on the fallout from everything that happened. 

[close]

During all this, Spider-Man 2099 goes back to the present day and gets trapped there.  He's now working at the corporation he fights in the future and keeping tabs on his evil grandfather.  He got his own new series recently.

On top of all that, a major retcon was done regarding Spider-Man's origin.  He now was not the only one bitten by the radioactive spider.  A female classmate was too, but she was locked away to prevent some major bad buy (Morlun, who apparently hunts down "spider avatars" and devours their souls or whatever) from finding her.  Spider-Man finds her and now she's a superhero called "Silk."  They also have some animal-like attraction between themselves and keep wanting to screw when close to each other.

The event Andrex was talking about, Edge Of Spider-Verse, relates to Morlun and his family.  They're going all over the multi-verse killing various versions of Spider-Man.  Edge is just the prequel to the Spider-Verse event and features Doc Ock Spidey gathering various Spider-Man characters in attempt to combat Morlun.  (This part of it takes place before the end of Superior)  It also has one-shot books focusing on various alternate versions of Spider-Man.  The one getting all the attention is a Spider-Woman who is actually Gwen Stacy in an alternate universe.  Marvel is going to be giving her a series, because Spider-Woman, Arachne, and Silk were not enough, it seems.

i kinda want a little more of the edge of the spider verse.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

seeing amazing friends spidey and crew and unlimited spidey get killed

[close]

feels odd, yet hilarious

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and that's not even counting the others like Supes, Wonder woman, Batman's crew/rogue's gallery, Cap, X-men, Hulk, Deadpool, etc

[Tasty]

It's comics, man. Nerd-approved soap operas.

[parallax]

i dont care for spock and the dome of stupid he created, but edge is pretty cool so far. until they start killing off my girls anyway