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magus · « **Reply #6000 on:** July 13, 2011, 05:29:26 PM »

that's because sonic should already be dead and buried
he's like a gaming zombie

Bebpo · « **Reply #6001 on:** July 13, 2011, 07:02:10 PM »

It's hard because conceptually Sonic doesn't work.

You can't have a skill based platformer while you're running at 100mph. If you want the sense of speed and excitement you either leave the real platforming and watch everyone die on every pit because they don't see it coming and then get pissed at the game and suddenly the game is just a big piece of memorization and no fun, or you auto-play it so the game basically plays itself and then it's boring and it's not any fun.

Or you can do a Sonic game without the 100mph running and it can be a real quality platformer, but if you're not going to be running at 100mph why make a Sonic game?

See, it's not Sega's fault. It's just an unworkable concept. Which is why I don't play Sonic games.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #6002 on:** July 13, 2011, 07:07:15 PM »

Seemed to work pretty well for the Genesis Sonic games.

Himu · « **Reply #6003 on:** July 13, 2011, 07:20:30 PM »

Sonic in 3d has already been proven to work well

[youtube=560,345]4GqgKJHwez4[/youtube]

Positive Touch · « **Reply #6004 on:** July 13, 2011, 07:47:55 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on July 13, 2011, 07:02:10 PM

You can't have a skill based platformer while you're running at 100mph.

i think you could totally do this, as long as you were ok with making a niche product that appealed to hardcore gamers

cool breeze · « **Reply #6005 on:** July 13, 2011, 08:10:28 PM »

mirror's edge is more what sonic should be in 3D

related note: the reason I plugged in my wii recently was for Sonic Colors. It's...not so good. It's fun but it doesn't feel as good as Unleashed. It's just more consistently decent, or something.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #6006 on:** July 13, 2011, 08:18:12 PM »

Quote from: Linkzg on July 13, 2011, 08:10:28 PM

mirror's edge is more what sonic should be in 3D

no

a sonic game, in 2d or 3d, could be fun if they made a fast-paced twitch game that had you dodging obstacles and bouncing off of chains of enemies, sort of like DK jungle beat but faster. of course no one would play that outside of nerds like us, so sega will keep making shitty kids games because thats what brings in the money

Himu · « **Reply #6007 on:** July 13, 2011, 09:18:52 PM »

mirror's edge

The Sceneman · « **Reply #6008 on:** July 14, 2011, 12:26:57 AM »

[youtube=560,345]1nVwm4aQS_E&feature=related[/youtube]

they just need to bring back music like this

cool breeze · « **Reply #6009 on:** July 14, 2011, 12:40:23 AM »

Sonic games are pretty consistent with music, even modern ones

also, Tecmo Super Bowl has the best music for an alarm clock

[youtube=560,345]gtjnf24He-U[/youtube]

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #6010 on:** July 14, 2011, 12:42:34 AM »

Bring back Masato Nakamura!

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #6011 on:** July 14, 2011, 12:48:09 AM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on July 14, 2011, 12:47:23 AM

Quote from: Great Rumbler on July 14, 2011, 12:42:34 AM
Bring back Masato Nakamura!

guy's an executive producer at a recording company now and just recently married a 20 year old

he don't need to make tunes for sega for lunch anymore

He needs to buy Sega or something.

[youtube=560,345]0FCHk_gSwKo[/youtube]

pilonv1 · « **Reply #6012 on:** July 14, 2011, 04:37:21 AM »

tiesto · « **Reply #6013 on:** July 14, 2011, 09:22:09 AM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on July 14, 2011, 12:34:22 AM

80's jazz/j-pop? agreed.

I want more early 90's R&B/new jack swing in Sonic games...

demi · « **Reply #6014 on:** July 14, 2011, 10:21:24 AM »

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/resident-evil-4-hd/achievements/

Himu · « **Reply #6015 on:** July 14, 2011, 01:20:08 PM »

Holy shit. That is one easy 1000.

demi · « **Reply #6016 on:** July 14, 2011, 01:44:06 PM »

Yeah it's overall disappointing for both games. I'll pass and stick with my super cool Cube version(s).

Beezy · « **Reply #6017 on:** July 14, 2011, 01:49:57 PM »

Posted here before?

Himu · « **Reply #6018 on:** July 14, 2011, 01:50:04 PM »

I'm still getting both. Easy 1000, one is an amazing game, the other is an average game.

archie4208 · « **Reply #6019 on:** July 14, 2011, 02:04:41 PM »

magus you should really buy (yes, buy) Dungeons of Dredmor. I know you have a big mancrush on Shiren and it seems right up your alley.

Himu · « **Reply #6020 on:** July 15, 2011, 01:52:05 AM »

playing final fantasy 6 vicariously through this awesome Let's Play

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3418085

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #6021 on:** July 15, 2011, 12:50:14 PM »

Man I wish I'd finished FF6 when I was playing it. I got to the part after the world changes or something and stopped playing. Pretty good game. How far was I himu?

@Beezy

Himu · « **Reply #6022 on:** July 15, 2011, 01:02:47 PM »

depends. if you do all the quest in the world of ruin, half way. if you jet towards the finale, 3/4's.

magus · « **Reply #6023 on:** July 15, 2011, 01:05:03 PM »

the world of ruin is where the game gets boring if you ask me,the plot is replaced by giving the player so much firepower that he doesn't know what to do with it

Quote from: archie4208 on July 14, 2011, 02:04:41 PM

magus you should really buy (yes, buy) Dungeons of Dredmor. I know you have a big mancrush on Shiren and it seems right up your alley.

is there a demo or something?

Himu · « **Reply #6024 on:** July 15, 2011, 01:07:09 PM »

World of Ruin is the most open Final Fantasy aside from FF11 or 12.

I find it refreshing.

The plot is worse in the WoR but still good because the quests make up for it.

Cyan sending letters to the dead soldier's wife was great.

magus · « **Reply #6025 on:** July 15, 2011, 01:13:54 PM »

you might have freedom but you don't see anything interessing with that freedom and most of the quest just give you back character you already have and the funny thing is that you don't even need them,like seriously fuck strago!

Himu · « **Reply #6026 on:** July 15, 2011, 01:16:17 PM »

You get the characters you already had before WoR but you complete their arcs.

How is that not interesting?

This is like saying "why do you have to go on loyalty missions in Mass Effect 2? I already got this character!"

magus · « **Reply #6027 on:** July 15, 2011, 01:38:01 PM »

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You get the characters you already had before WoR but you complete their arcs.

terra mopes a little about being half esper,then make some half assed talk about protecting childrens and then she joins back

EXCITING

the only one that's probably holds some weight is the whole rachel thing with locke,actualy i don't even remember if that happens before or after WoR,though i'm pretty sure it was after?

demi · « **Reply #6028 on:** July 15, 2011, 01:46:51 PM »

gather party members you never used, grind dinosaurs, go to tower finale, get forced to use members you never used

ff6 is fun! not

ferrarimanf355 · « **Reply #6029 on:** July 15, 2011, 03:14:19 PM »

Greatest Doom mod ever.

[youtube=560,345]QLKZhu_dgxA[/youtube]

Doom 4 should have the ability to catch Lost Souls and throw them back at the monsters, that would be awesome.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #6030 on:** July 15, 2011, 03:17:24 PM »

ferrarimanf355 · « **Reply #6031 on:** July 15, 2011, 03:18:14 PM »

Quote from: Joe Molotov® EDGE™ on July 15, 2011, 03:17:24 PM

lmao

It's almost like the comic, that's what makes it awesome.

Robo · « **Reply #6032 on:** July 15, 2011, 03:19:22 PM »

CAPCOM's Christian Svensson posted an interesting response to an oft-asked question re: the limitations of matchmaking (for fighting games, specifically, but applicable to all games) on the CAPCOM-Unity forum:

Quote from: Sven

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Jul 12, 2011 -- 9:00AM, Farplaner wrote:

One concern that I wanted to express is the matchmaking capability. From HD Remix, SF4, SSF4 to MVC3, there's always this frustrating experience: Connection errors. In MVC3's case, when you get a connection error, you even get kicked out to the main menu, which is ridiculous.

What I would hope for in 3rd strike OE, is to be able to set my parameters (for example, same skill, same region, green bars only/maximum ping value), and then just keep trying until I get a match. I don't want to search and select "OK" after connection error over and over again. I would do the arcade mode with online matching on, but that doesn't give me ability to limit by the connection quality (to only connect to green bars).

So in general, can you guys explain if this capability will be there? Or just in general, are there any improvements made in the matchmaking?

I posed the question to Derek as he has more detail provide on these topics:

The short answer is: we don’t handle the matchmaking, not really. Sony and Microsoft do. They provide us with a set of pre-made matchmaking tools that work on PSN or XBLA (and which we are required to use). The main function of these tools is to create and return lists of available games. (We don’t have any control over what games show up on the list.)

That said, it is still possible to do some things to sort out ‘bad games’ from the list. For example, we can ping every player that comes back on the list, and then remove any players with bad ping times, and then show you the list. But this causes several problems: first off, it slows the connection process down, and makes getting into every game (even good ones) take longer. Worse, the amount of time it takes increases with the number of people playing. If there’s a lot of people on the list, it could take a very long while to finish. This isn’t generally a good user experience.

Secondly, the lists we get back from Sony and MSFT are only useful for a short period of time. This is because, while you’re trying to join games, so are other people. This means that the longer you wait between searching for games and actually trying to join one, the more likely it is that someone else will have joined it, or the game will have been taken down, or something else will have happened. Any of these things can cause a connection error, so the longer we delay in showing you the list, the more likely it becomes for a connection error to happen when you try to join a game. For that reason, we prefer to be speedy about displaying them to you. By the way, this problem is worst when matches are filling up, completing, and being taken down very quickly (which is generally the case with fighting games). It is much less noticeable in games with longer match times, or that are server based, or that have a large pre-game lobby to join.

Regarding your suggestion that we automatically re-try when you Quick Match (or something) and a connection error occurs, we’re not actually allowed to do that. Sony and Microsoft both require, and pretty strictly enforce, that we display an appropriate message and wait for confirmation from the user whenever a network error occurs. What we could do (and I think this is what Blazblue does) is get the Quick Match target from Sony / MSFT, ping him, evaluate his stats, and if it’s not what your settings have specified, close the connection and re-search. But we would still have to display a message and wait in the case of an actual connection error.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #6033 on:** July 15, 2011, 03:20:13 PM »

Quote from: ferrarimanf355 on July 15, 2011, 03:14:19 PM

Greatest Doom mod ever.

[youtube=560,345]QLKZhu_dgxA[/youtube]

Doom 4 should have the ability to catch Lost Souls and throw them back at the monsters, that would be awesome.

RIP AND TEAR!!

Positive Touch · « **Reply #6034 on:** July 15, 2011, 04:39:46 PM »

Quote from: magus on July 15, 2011, 01:38:01 PM

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You get the characters you already had before WoR but you complete their arcs.

terra mopes a little about being half esper,then make some half assed talk about protecting childrens and then she joins back

EXCITING

the only one that's probably holds some weight is the whole rachel thing with locke,actualy i don't even remember if that happens before or after WoR,though i'm pretty sure it was after?

its the story in a fucking SUPER NINTENDO GAME jesus christ

you know why the world of ruin is great? because there's tons of content to explore, lots of great dungeons, lots of great loot, and you can do it in any order you want and skip over the parts you dont want to play. its awesome and fun as fuck as long as youre not a lameass who hates fun for petty, stupid reasons like magus or an asspie freak like demi

fuck all the reviewers who were like "ff13 gets fun when you get to the open world part!" no, it was still a shitty, shallow game; ff6 did it right.

demi · « **Reply #6035 on:** July 15, 2011, 04:42:58 PM »

it is pretty stupid though.

magus · « **Reply #6036 on:** July 15, 2011, 05:06:15 PM »

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its the story in a fucking SUPER NINTENDO GAME jesus christ

uh... so what? super nintendo game have a license to have lame plot sequence?

and besides the plot of FF6 is good,it moves at a nice pace,there is a nice villain (even though i'm kinda sick of hearing about how awesome he's compared to sephiroth who's instead gay) lots of stuff happens...
it's in the world of ruin that it gets stupid

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because there's tons of content to explore, lots of great dungeons, lots of great loot

for me most of the extra bits of FF6 are like those lame bonus dungeon they add whenever they do a port,boring padding that shouldn't be there

like you know that part where you can get the sylphy summon in FF4? that dungeon is incredibly boring to explore,it features the most annoying enemies ever since all they bother to do is turn you into a frog,it gives you a reward you don't need in the slighest,and i'm supposed to go? "HURRAY! OPTIONAL STUFF!"

ferrarimanf355 · « **Reply #6037 on:** July 15, 2011, 05:16:12 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on July 15, 2011, 03:20:13 PM

Quote from: ferrarimanf355 on July 15, 2011, 03:14:19 PM
Greatest Doom mod ever.

[youtube=560,345]QLKZhu_dgxA[/youtube]

Doom 4 should have the ability to catch Lost Souls and throw them back at the monsters, that would be awesome.

RIP AND TEAR!!

HERE COMES THE NIGHT TRAIN

Positive Touch · « **Reply #6038 on:** July 15, 2011, 05:18:55 PM »

yep that's a stupid dungeon but there's stuff like the bahamut dungeon or the odin fight that actually do make you go "HURRAY! OPTIONAL STUFF!" just like how in ff6 there's lots of good content like cyan's dream and the phoenix cave to go along with shit like the tower of fanatics.

ferrarimanf355 · « **Reply #6039 on:** July 15, 2011, 05:20:35 PM »

[youtube=560,345]9bAFKYxUFT4[/youtube]

Flipping off a Baron of Hell isn't a good idea...

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #6040 on:** July 15, 2011, 05:56:19 PM »

Can you imagine how badly parents would have flipped out if that stuff had actually been in Doom?

archie4208 · « **Reply #6041 on:** July 15, 2011, 06:28:13 PM »

One month until GOTY is revealed.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #6042 on:** July 15, 2011, 08:42:44 PM »

Final Fantasy VII > VI

magus · « **Reply #6043 on:** July 15, 2011, 08:48:44 PM »

any of you guys played the williams pinball collection? i loved pinball dreams on the amiga and i seems to understand this is a collection of some popular pinball tables? are the wii and the 360 version the sames?

Bebpo · « **Reply #6044 on:** July 15, 2011, 09:25:27 PM »

Quote from: magus on July 15, 2011, 08:48:44 PM

any of you guys played the williams pinball collection? i loved pinball dreams on the amiga and i seems to understand this is a collection of some popular pinball tables? are the wii and the 360 version the sames?

It's amazing. Best Pinball game in years.

WHERE IS MY HD GOTTLEIB XBLA ALREADY....

ferrarimanf355 · « **Reply #6045 on:** July 15, 2011, 09:32:29 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on July 15, 2011, 05:56:19 PM

Can you imagine how badly parents would have flipped out if that stuff had actually been in Doom?

Yeah, I'd be pissed if the Happy Days theme was in the game, too.

iconoclast · « **Reply #6046 on:** July 15, 2011, 09:36:50 PM »

Quote from: magus on July 15, 2011, 08:48:44 PM

any of you guys played the williams pinball collection? i loved pinball dreams on the amiga and i seems to understand this is a collection of some popular pinball tables? are the wii and the 360 version the sames?

I think the 360/PS3 versions exclusively have Medieval Madness (which is a godlike table) and Arabian Nights (which is another great table). It's a great game though, easily the best video pinball I've ever played. There was also a leaderboard around here a while ago, but I have no idea what thread it's in. Probably in the What Are You Playing thread since I got it several months after it came out. edit: This seems to be the most up to date one. Go beat some scores, magus-kun.

Himu · « **Reply #6047 on:** July 15, 2011, 10:26:13 PM »

Quote from: Wrath2X on July 15, 2011, 07:40:48 PM

Quote from: AWESOM-O on July 15, 2011, 06:01:58 PM

The Shadow levels in SA2 where you grind the rails were some of the best platforming levels of the last gen.

There were plenty of great SA levels. Everything that sucked involved the non-platforming characters.

If Sega made a game that was ONLY Sonic/Shadow/SA1 Tails levels with a decent camera, that would be some amazing shit.

Exactly!

And speaking of Final Fantasy 6, I still need to try it but I'll be damned if the game's fans aren't in my top ten of annoying manchildren. I'm not surprised that most of them are nintards.

Most Final Fantasy fans with taste put 6 high on their FF lists. I don't see how 6 fans are annoying manchildren. That's mostly reserved for fanatics of 7.

iconoclast · « **Reply #6048 on:** July 16, 2011, 12:05:22 AM »

El Shaddai got pushed back to the middle of August $:-\$

Guess I'll be keeping Gamefly for another month. I still haven't played Duke Nukem for more than 20 minutes lol

Bebpo · « **Reply #6049 on:** July 16, 2011, 04:02:13 AM »

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

I like how this sounds nothing like EO

It's a really good track though, feels ghilbi

Also sounds nothing like the Hibino I'm used to from MGS in-game music.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #6050 on:** July 18, 2011, 07:11:17 AM »

its a violin arrange version of one of the EO tracks, thats why it sounds unlike EO. Get your facts straight before you start spewing shit all over message boards

my new favourite piece of game music:

[youtube=560,345]ZUgja4wkAO8[/youtube]

imagine doing it to this shit

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #6051 on:** July 18, 2011, 02:55:47 PM »

Quote from: Green Man on July 18, 2011, 02:16:20 PM

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

This looks really cool.

Cool video. Crap narrator.

iconoclast · « **Reply #6052 on:** July 18, 2011, 04:16:50 PM »

Asura's Wrath looks kinda fun, but it seems maybe a little too sloppy and cinematic for me to buy. I really hope they release a demo for it, because right now it's looking like a nice rental.

cool breeze · « **Reply #6053 on:** July 18, 2011, 08:12:07 PM »

that new Driver game looks really fun

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #6054 on:** July 18, 2011, 08:43:47 PM »

White Knight 2 DELAYED UNTIL SEPTEMBER
El Shaddai 2 DELAYED END OF AUGUST

Son of a bitch. Now I've only got RGG Of the End and Catherine to play during summer break.

demi · « **Reply #6055 on:** July 18, 2011, 09:57:51 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on July 18, 2011, 08:43:47 PM

White Knight 2 DELAYED UNTIL SEPTEMBER
El Shaddai 2 DELAYED END OF AUGUST

Son of a bitch. Now I've only got RGG Of the End and Catherine to play during summer break.

You need more real games... no wonder you are frail and cool young dude. Get some American Meat on your bones.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #6056 on:** July 18, 2011, 09:59:42 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on July 18, 2011, 08:43:47 PM

White Knight 2 DELAYED UNTIL SEPTEMBER
El Shaddai 2 DELAYED END OF AUGUST

Son of a bitch. Now I've only got RGG Of the End and Catherine to play during summer break.

seriously? You cant find ANYTHING to play?

Bebpo · « **Reply #6057 on:** July 18, 2011, 10:38:47 PM »

PS3-only gaming is tough!

If only Mr. Gundam played PC games or handhelds

The Sceneman · « **Reply #6058 on:** July 18, 2011, 11:33:27 PM »

surely Gundam's PC can run ScummVM or something. There is absolutley no excuse ever for not having any games to play. So many PC classics are freeware now, you can buy PS1 games off PSN. Theres 30 years of games to draw from

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #6059 on:** July 19, 2011, 12:14:04 AM »

I've got a fucking epic backlog of games to pick from, I just wanted to play some new stuff before going back to work at the end of August. Oh well.

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