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« Reply #29160 on: November 18, 2021, 07:32:03 PM »
Been looking at PC audio options to replace my broken Z5500.

Most PC speakers suck, it's either only 2.0 or 2.1 or some 'gamer' shit with no bass and an RGB light.
Soundbars seem like an interesting option but now I'm kinda torn between the LG SP8, DS7 or SN4.

The SN4 is the cheapest at 99 which seems adequate for a soundbar, it lacks real DTS:X though, only comes with DTS Virtual:X.
The DS7 doesn't have a seperate subwoofer and I think it would lack the bass I want. It has DTS:X / Atmos.

There's now a Black Friday Deal for the SP8 which slashes the price from 699 to 329.
It has all the bells and whistles like a seperate subwoofer and DTS:X / Atmos. But I feel like this is more something suited to put under my TV.
Admittedly it would be fitting to replace my Sony 5.1 Home Cinema set from 2011 but that would still leave me without a PC speaker set-up.  :doge
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« Reply #29161 on: November 19, 2021, 02:23:04 PM »
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A Note from the Rockstar Games Team RE: Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy – The Definitive Edition
November 19, 2021

Hi everyone,

We want to provide an update regarding the unexpected technical issues that came to light as part of the launch of Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy – The Definitive Edition.

Firstly, we want to sincerely apologize to everyone who has encountered issues playing these games.

The Grand Theft Auto series — and the games that make up this iconic trilogy — are as special to us as we know they are to fans around the world. The updated versions of these classic games did not launch in a state that meets our own standards of quality, or the standards our fans have come to expect.

We have ongoing plans to address the technical issues and to improve each game going forward. With each planned update, the games will reach the level of quality that they deserve to be.

A new Title Update is on the way in the coming days for all versions of Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy – The Definitive Edition that will address a number of issues. We will update everyone as soon as it is live.

In the meantime, it pains us to mention that we are hearing reports of members of the development teams being harassed on social media. We would kindly ask our community to please maintain a respectful and civil discourse around this release as we work through these issues.

While one of the goals of the Definitive Editions was to allow players to enjoy these games on modern platforms for many years to come, we also understand that some of you would still like to have the previous classic versions available for purchase.

We will be adding the classic PC versions of Grand Theft Auto III, Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, and Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas back to the Rockstar Store shortly as a bundle. Additionally, everyone who has purchased Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy – The Definitive Edition for PC from the Rockstar Store through June 30, 2022, will receive these classic versions in their Rockstar Games Launcher library at no additional cost. We will update everyone as soon as these are back in the Rockstar Store.

Once again, we'd like to thank everyone for their patience and understanding while we work through these updates to ensure these games meet everyone's justifiably high standards.

Sincerely,
Rockstar Games

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« Reply #29162 on: November 19, 2021, 03:25:48 PM »

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« Reply #29163 on: November 19, 2021, 04:05:04 PM »
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A Note from the Rockstar Games Team RE: Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy – The Definitive Edition
November 19, 2021

Hi everyone,

We want to provide an update regarding the unexpected technical issues that came to light as part of the launch of Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy – The Definitive Edition.

Firstly, we want to sincerely apologize to everyone who has encountered issues playing these games.

The Grand Theft Auto series — and the games that make up this iconic trilogy — are as special to us as we know they are to fans around the world. The updated versions of these classic games did not launch in a state that meets our own standards of quality, or the standards our fans have come to expect.

We have ongoing plans to address the technical issues and to improve each game going forward. With each planned update, the games will reach the level of quality that they deserve to be.

A new Title Update is on the way in the coming days for all versions of Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy – The Definitive Edition that will address a number of issues. We will update everyone as soon as it is live.

In the meantime, it pains us to mention that we are hearing reports of members of the development teams being harassed on social media. We would kindly ask our community to please maintain a respectful and civil discourse around this release as we work through these issues.

While one of the goals of the Definitive Editions was to allow players to enjoy these games on modern platforms for many years to come, we also understand that some of you would still like to have the previous classic versions available for purchase.

We will be adding the classic PC versions of Grand Theft Auto III, Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, and Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas back to the Rockstar Store shortly as a bundle. Additionally, everyone who has purchased Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy – The Definitive Edition for PC from the Rockstar Store through June 30, 2022, will receive these classic versions in their Rockstar Games Launcher library at no additional cost. We will update everyone as soon as these are back in the Rockstar Store.

Once again, we'd like to thank everyone for their patience and understanding while we work through these updates to ensure these games meet everyone's justifiably high standards.

Sincerely,
Rockstar Games

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lol after a week of silence I was just expecting them to cut bait, never patch it and never mention that it exists again (while still being a available to buy) :trumps
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« Reply #29164 on: November 19, 2021, 04:56:33 PM »
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In the meantime, it pains us to mention that we are hearing reports of members of the development teams being harassed on social media. We would kindly ask our community to please maintain a respectful and civil discourse around this release as we work through these issues.
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« Reply #29165 on: November 19, 2021, 06:06:37 PM »
This video convinced me to get the Edifier speakers for my PC over the Razer Nommo.


Might also snag the soundbar for the TV as it seems like a massive upgrade from my 2011 Sony Blu-Ray 5.1 Home Cinema set.
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« Reply #29166 on: November 19, 2021, 07:24:30 PM »


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« Reply #29167 on: November 19, 2021, 10:13:36 PM »
Did anyone pick up Vanguard yet?

Reviews are lukewarm it seems.
Vanguard is having free weekend MP, but game isn't on sale for their Black Friday sale. (Which has already started natch.)

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« Reply #29168 on: November 20, 2021, 07:31:03 AM »
Battlefield 2042 has a nice 69 ;) on Opencritic and ~20k reviews with a Mostly Negative rating on Steam.

HALO Infinite stands at 30k reviews on Steam, Mostly positive rating.



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« Reply #29169 on: November 20, 2021, 01:20:11 PM »
Battlefield 2042 has a nice 69 ;) on Opencritic and ~20k reviews with a Mostly Negative rating on Steam.

HALO Infinite stands at 30k reviews on Steam, Mostly positive rating.

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« Reply #29170 on: November 20, 2021, 02:05:04 PM »
I don't recall a time since the Wii when the big publishers dropped so many turds in succession during the holiday season.
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« Reply #29171 on: November 20, 2021, 08:34:41 PM »
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A Note from the Rockstar Games Team RE: Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy – The Definitive Edition
November 19, 2021

Hi everyone,

We want to provide an update regarding the unexpected technical issues that came to light as part of the launch of Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy – The Definitive Edition.

Firstly, we want to sincerely apologize to everyone who has encountered issues playing these games.

The Grand Theft Auto series — and the games that make up this iconic trilogy — are as special to us as we know they are to fans around the world. The updated versions of these classic games did not launch in a state that meets our own standards of quality, or the standards our fans have come to expect.

We have ongoing plans to address the technical issues and to improve each game going forward. With each planned update, the games will reach the level of quality that they deserve to be.

A new Title Update is on the way in the coming days for all versions of Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy – The Definitive Edition that will address a number of issues. We will update everyone as soon as it is live.

In the meantime, it pains us to mention that we are hearing reports of members of the development teams being harassed on social media. We would kindly ask our community to please maintain a respectful and civil discourse around this release as we work through these issues.

While one of the goals of the Definitive Editions was to allow players to enjoy these games on modern platforms for many years to come, we also understand that some of you would still like to have the previous classic versions available for purchase.

We will be adding the classic PC versions of Grand Theft Auto III, Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, and Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas back to the Rockstar Store shortly as a bundle. Additionally, everyone who has purchased Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy – The Definitive Edition for PC from the Rockstar Store through June 30, 2022, will receive these classic versions in their Rockstar Games Launcher library at no additional cost. We will update everyone as soon as these are back in the Rockstar Store.

Once again, we'd like to thank everyone for their patience and understanding while we work through these updates to ensure these games meet everyone's justifiably high standards.

Sincerely,
Rockstar Games

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How can there be such enormous "unexpected technical issues"?

A simple QA check would have been enough to pick this shit up. So either they knew about the issues and choose not to fix them or they didn't do any QA.

Fucking hacks. After the shitshow that RDR2's controls were, I can't believe anyone bothers with their games.

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In the meantime, it pains us to mention that we are hearing reports of members of the development teams being harassed on social media. We would kindly ask our community to please maintain a respectful and civil discourse around this release as we work through these issues.
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Haha, "development team members being harassed online" is the default excuse these days. "Please feel sorry for us." Get fucked.
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« Reply #29172 on: November 20, 2021, 08:41:15 PM »
I don't recall a time since the Wii when the big publishers dropped so many turds in succession during the holiday season.
Shit out a turd and fix it later. Bottom line above all else. Gotta have those Christmas sales to keep the bonuses high.
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« Reply #29173 on: November 20, 2021, 09:52:54 PM »
Being a generic FPS with multiplayer doesn't cut it anymore

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« Reply #29174 on: November 21, 2021, 09:33:48 AM »
Got the $99 Edifier speakers and they indeed sound fantastic for PC speakers  :ohhh
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« Reply #29175 on: November 21, 2021, 07:12:51 PM »
I have Edifier R1280t speakers for my PC. Great for the cost.
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« Reply #29176 on: November 21, 2021, 07:40:39 PM »
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In the meantime, it pains us to mention that we are hearing reports of members of the development teams being harassed on social media. We would kindly ask our community to please maintain a respectful and civil discourse around this release as we work through these issues.
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I suspect you were being sarcastic, which rarely  conveys itself successfully in text, but it is never fucking OK to go after the development team on social media. Talk to tech-support, write to sales and marketing, or write the CEO or something. I guarantee you these devs did the best job that they were allowed to do in the amount of time they had, and going after them is a bitch-made move.
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« Reply #29177 on: November 21, 2021, 08:27:44 PM »
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« Reply #29178 on: November 21, 2021, 09:52:46 PM »
There's a Game Gear Micro CFW now

Dont have one to try it out, but it seems to work

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« Reply #29179 on: November 22, 2021, 01:22:43 AM »
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In the meantime, it pains us to mention that we are hearing reports of members of the development teams being harassed on social media. We would kindly ask our community to please maintain a respectful and civil discourse around this release as we work through these issues.
GAMERS RISE UP

I suspect you were being sarcastic, which really conveys itself successfully in text, but it is never fucking OK to go after the development team on social media. Talk to tech-support, write to sales and marketing, or write the CEO or something. I guarantee you these devs did the best job that they were allowed to do in the amount of time they had, and going after them is a bitch-made move.
I completely agree with you about the harassment part, but this recent taboo about the possibility of someone in game development being lazy or incompetent, when it's a possibility in every other aspect of life and profession, is a silly over correction.
But I know gamers are in large part men children that throw tantrums for every little thing, so I can understand where it's coming from.
Still, if an incompetent plumber can exist, so can a developer.

Though even in a scenario where a team doesn't have the expertise for the task they're given, the problem lies within whoever decided to hire on the cheap.

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« Reply #29180 on: November 22, 2021, 05:13:16 AM »
I have Edifier R1280t speakers for my PC. Great for the cost.
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In the meantime, it pains us to mention that we are hearing reports of members of the development teams being harassed on social media. We would kindly ask our community to please maintain a respectful and civil discourse around this release as we work through these issues.
GAMERS RISE UP

I suspect you were being sarcastic, which really conveys itself successfully in text, but it is never fucking OK to go after the development team on social media. Talk to tech-support, write to sales and marketing, or write the CEO or something. I guarantee you these devs did the best job that they were allowed to do in the amount of time they had, and going after them is a bitch-made move.
I completely agree with you about the harassment part, but this recent taboo about the possibility of someone in game development being lazy or incompetent, when it's a possibility in every other aspect of life and profession, is a silly over correction.
But I know gamers are in large part men children that throw tantrums for every little thing, so I can understand where it's coming from.
Still, if an incompetent plumber can exist, so can a developer.

Though even in a scenario where a team doesn't have the expertise for the task they're given, the problem lies within whoever decided to hire on the cheap.
The main issue is that publishers like EA and Take2 are acting like 'uguuu we are a poor indie dev :uguu please be patient while we fix our passion project'
All while raking in billions of dollars with cosmetics and loot boxes and releasing fundamentally broken products.

It's like if Ford or Volkswagen would release a car with no windshield, no brakes, no doors and a leaking gas tank and then write an apology letter in their 'brand' to explain they hadn't noticed those faults.
Or if Villeneuve would not have dropped Dune: Part 1 but 1/8 of the movie shot with half the special effects missing and then a message plays about how much he appreciates the fans and that's he's totally excited for the roadmap to make the rest of the film.

With the remasters it's even more mind boggling, considering the original product already exists. With GTA you can tell the game is a pile of garbage moments after you boot it up and a remaster of a 20 year old game is hardly what one would describe as ambitious or difficult. With Battlefield games it's just a repetition of the same bugs over and over again. The same set of tools (Frostbite 3) they've been using since 2013 still don't work.
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« Reply #29181 on: November 22, 2021, 01:02:51 PM »
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« Reply #29183 on: November 22, 2021, 05:21:04 PM »
I guess the makers of Paradise Killer are working on something new.


For anyone who hasn't played it, it's an open-world, vaporwave-backed murder mystery with some bonkers/fun worldbuilding. It's got a ton of interesting collectables and plays like this amazing, slow-paced Dreamcast platformer set to really fucking good music.


My GOTY 2020.
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« Reply #29184 on: November 22, 2021, 05:43:00 PM »
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« Reply #29185 on: November 22, 2021, 06:42:33 PM »
Watched the Xbox thing it was fun to watch Peter Moore explain our mixed reality future and 'by the way, we just bought Peter Jackson's group'.
He was the most excited about the whole thing. As was Robbie Bach as he's just writing books and messing around and clearly never understood anything that they were doing in terms of technology anyway.

Bonnie Ross is on the way out I think, she didn't seem to care much.
Reggie was an OK host I guess, but was mostly saved by Peter Moore and Robbie Bach who kept it going.
Bach basically took over moderation at the end :lol

where the fuck is molyneux?
They were already sort of 'steamed hamburgers' awkward at times considering some of them didn't leave Microsoft on the best of terms.
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« Reply #29186 on: November 22, 2021, 07:28:48 PM »
Is this laptop capable of playing modern games well?

i5 11400
8GB ram
512GB SSD
RTX3060 6GB
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« Reply #29187 on: November 22, 2021, 07:50:43 PM »
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« Reply #29188 on: November 22, 2021, 08:11:06 PM »
Is this laptop capable of playing modern games well?

i5 11400
8GB ram
512GB SSD
RTX3060 6GB
Yeah that should run almost everything you can throw at it at 1440p


You might want a bit more RAM to play with in the long run but those are solid specs.
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« Reply #29189 on: November 22, 2021, 08:13:46 PM »
Thanks Nintex
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« Reply #29191 on: November 23, 2021, 06:57:41 AM »
Paprium is coming to PS4, PS5, Steam, and Switch, and a Game Gear version got announced.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/573261866/paprium-the-16-bit-beat-them-all-coming-to-the-next-gen
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« Reply #29193 on: November 23, 2021, 06:12:41 PM »
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« Reply #29194 on: November 23, 2021, 06:27:48 PM »
https://museum.xbox.com/

pretty cool website.
Some never before seen like early Xbox interface tests
https://museum.xbox.com/en/content/original-xbox-screen-2
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« Reply #29195 on: November 23, 2021, 09:30:28 PM »
https://museum.xbox.com/

pretty cool website.
Some never before seen like early Xbox interface tests
https://museum.xbox.com/en/content/original-xbox-screen-2

That is some PEAK NINETIES.

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« Reply #29197 on: November 24, 2021, 12:27:33 AM »
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« Reply #29198 on: November 25, 2021, 03:14:07 PM »
I see Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3 is finally on-sale, but it's still over $40 which is a lot.

If I want a modern X-men game is it good for that? Also do these games play like Musou/DW games but overhead?

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« Reply #29199 on: November 25, 2021, 03:43:16 PM »


 :exxy this shit looks even worse than I thought it would
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« Reply #29200 on: November 25, 2021, 07:16:38 PM »
It's really not that bad.

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« Reply #29201 on: November 25, 2021, 10:14:08 PM »
So, I dived in on a gaming laptop. Picking it up this afternoon.

It's been a while since I played games on a PC. Aside from the obligatory Steam account (which I have), what do I need to get?

I have an 8bitdo Pro2 controller.
I have a decent keyboard.
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« Reply #29202 on: November 26, 2021, 01:47:30 AM »
So, I dived in on a gaming laptop. Picking it up this afternoon.

It's been a while since I played games on a PC. Aside from the obligatory Steam account (which I have), what do I need to get?

I have an 8bitdo Pro2 controller.
I have a decent keyboard.
Stalker Anomaly.

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« Reply #29203 on: November 26, 2021, 03:02:14 AM »
So, I dived in on a gaming laptop. Picking it up this afternoon.

It's been a while since I played games on a PC. Aside from the obligatory Steam account (which I have), what do I need to get?

I have an 8bitdo Pro2 controller.
I have a decent keyboard.
If you don't have an Xbox than GamePass Ultimate with Forza Horizon 5, Halo Infinite and Age of Empires IV is a good start.

Of course there is Cyberpunk 2077 and Witcher 3 if you haven't played them. EA also dropped the Mass Effect trilogy.
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« Reply #29204 on: November 26, 2021, 05:17:19 AM »
So, I dived in on a gaming laptop. Picking it up this afternoon.

It's been a while since I played games on a PC. Aside from the obligatory Steam account (which I have), what do I need to get?

I have an 8bitdo Pro2 controller.
I have a decent keyboard.

A DS4 or a Xbox 360 controller.

But yeah Gamepass for PC is good shit.
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« Reply #29205 on: November 26, 2021, 05:34:05 AM »
So, I dived in on a gaming laptop. Picking it up this afternoon.

It's been a while since I played games on a PC. Aside from the obligatory Steam account (which I have), what do I need to get?

I have an 8bitdo Pro2 controller.
I have a decent keyboard.

A DS4 or a Xbox 360 controller.

But yeah Gamepass for PC is good shit.
I have an old 360 controller. I might get it out and put some batteries in it. Can't be bothered with configuring the 8bitdo
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« Reply #29206 on: November 26, 2021, 11:42:46 AM »
So, I dived in on a gaming laptop. Picking it up this afternoon.

It's been a while since I played games on a PC. Aside from the obligatory Steam account (which I have), what do I need to get?

I have an 8bitdo Pro2 controller.
I have a decent keyboard.

Besides whatever peripherals you might want, just expand storefronts beyond Steam and check out Battle.net, Ubi Connect, Epic, Origin, etc. Epic gives away free games all the time.

You shouldn't have to configure the 8bitdo controller. Just look up how to use it with x input and then it should work just like a 360 pad.

I got a new laptop a few weeks back (Maingear Vector Pro 17 w/ 1440P 165hz screen/32B ram/i7 11800H/RTX 3080) and I'm so impressed with how far along laptops have come recently- this thing is so thin and light, but packs a punch and runs everything at the highest settings really well even at 4K. 
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« Reply #29207 on: November 26, 2021, 03:39:36 PM »
Regarding controllers, in my experience the xbox ones (360, one, series) are the only ones that just work plug n play 99% of the times.
I use a DS4, and while on Steam and Uplay they work fine (i think Steam may need a bit of configuration), for example on Gamepass games, on the Xbox app, i still need to use DS4windows, same for other programs.
And it's on a game by game basis in some cases (like older Ubisoft games or GOG).

The downside of the xbox controllers is for games that use bumpers a lot, like Souls games, because those bumpers are shit.

I had completely remapped Sekiro to work with face buttons (much better in general, btw), but if i can't do it in Elden Ring, i can't imagine myself playing it with an xbox controller.

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« Reply #29208 on: November 26, 2021, 05:32:12 PM »
So, I dived in on a gaming laptop. Picking it up this afternoon.

It's been a while since I played games on a PC. Aside from the obligatory Steam account (which I have), what do I need to get?

I have an 8bitdo Pro2 controller.
I have a decent keyboard.

Besides whatever peripherals you might want, just expand storefronts beyond Steam and check out Battle.net, Ubi Connect, Epic, Origin, etc. Epic gives away free games all the time.

You shouldn't have to configure the 8bitdo controller. Just look up how to use it with x input and then it should work just like a 360 pad.

I got a new laptop a few weeks back (Maingear Vector Pro 17 w/ 1440P 165hz screen/32B ram/i7 11800H/RTX 3080) and I'm so impressed with how far along laptops have come recently- this thing is so thin and light, but packs a punch and runs everything at the highest settings really well even at 4K. 
My problem is that the buttons are labelled differently so the on-screen prompt says B, but the controller label is A.
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« Reply #29209 on: November 26, 2021, 07:04:55 PM »
I'm starting to think Forza Horizon 5 might be the best arcade racer of all time  :ohhh
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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #29210 on: November 27, 2021, 12:43:14 PM »
Is this even an arcade racer. The handling is cumbersome and races are lowkey. It feels like a sim that just happens to be in an open world with a dumb hipster story.

I'm currently cycling through some classics like Burnout 4, Outrun 2 and Hot Pursuit 2012, plus some okay-ish titles like Sonic Transformed and Wreckfest. Forza is about the least interesting "arcade" racer among those and the last one I'll ever want to revisit.

Don Rumata

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #29211 on: November 27, 2021, 03:32:29 PM »
Arcade and sim are on a spectrum (incidentally mirroring exactly that of autism  ;)) but this is sort of in the middle of a motorstorm apocalypse or Trackmania, and an iRacing of an Assetto Corsa.

Nintex

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #29212 on: November 27, 2021, 07:04:19 PM »
I think the strength of Forza Horizon 5 is that the possibilites are nearly endless with customization and tuning.

You can turn a Ferrari in an off road car if you want to.
Yesterday I basically transformed a Mazda into a Ridge Racer car that starts drifting as soon as I tap the break at any speed.
In FH5 they've included nearly every racing type. It can be a sim or an arcade racer depending on your preferences.

What point is there to modern Need for Speed if this exists.

F-Zero GX was probably my favorite arcade racer of all time but F-Zero is gone. The runner up was PGR4.
FH2 came close to dethroning both but still had limitations, which each FH game they keep refining and improving.
FH5 is NFSU/Excite Truck/Motorstorm/Trackmania etc. etc. rolled into one beautiful game.
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demi

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #29213 on: November 27, 2021, 07:29:05 PM »
Apparently the VA for Wesker got catfished and he leaked some concept art from RE4 Remake or something, while also admitting he worked on Separate Ways for RE4 Remake

https://twitter.com/xHercoldhands/status/1464718066785288195
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demi

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #29214 on: November 27, 2021, 09:53:10 PM »
lol

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chronovore

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #29215 on: November 27, 2021, 11:09:12 PM »
That’s lame that they did that to the VA.

chronovore

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #29216 on: November 27, 2021, 11:21:40 PM »
Quote from: Rockstar Games
In the meantime, it pains us to mention that we are hearing reports of members of the development teams being harassed on social media. We would kindly ask our community to please maintain a respectful and civil discourse around this release as we work through these issues.
GAMERS RISE UP

I suspect you were being sarcastic, which really conveys itself successfully in text, but it is never fucking OK to go after the development team on social media. Talk to tech-support, write to sales and marketing, or write the CEO or something. I guarantee you these devs did the best job that they were allowed to do in the amount of time they had, and going after them is a bitch-made move.
I completely agree with you about the harassment part, but this recent taboo about the possibility of someone in game development being lazy or incompetent, when it's a possibility in every other aspect of life and profession, is a silly over correction.
But I know gamers are in large part men children that throw tantrums for every little thing, so I can understand where it's coming from.
Still, if an incompetent plumber can exist, so can a developer.

Though even in a scenario where a team doesn't have the expertise for the task they're given, the problem lies within whoever decided to hire on the cheap.

Except in other fields of work, you’re getting an hourly wage or overtime pay, and in game development you’re getting people who work a shit ton of overtime with no compensation because they’re passionate about the game they’re making. And possibly in an unhealthy codependent relationship with their work.

I have met a few incompetent devs, and even fewer lazy devs in 27 years in the industry. They don’t last long. It’s not the same as other industries, in general.

That said, the largest company I’ve been at so far had more instances of laziness and incompetence, so if Rockstar scaled similarly, you may be right.

Don Rumata

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #29217 on: November 27, 2021, 11:42:11 PM »
Some fields, sure.
If you're an immigrant doing construction work it's not quite as simple as getting an hourly rate and overtime, especially if they can replace you in an afternoon.
I mean there are several sectors where exploitation of "market realities" ( :doge) happen.
Even in that one you'll see people who are borderline slaves, and some who can be some gross motherfuckers.

But that is not to deny the problem of the gaming industry, especially how much it runs on the passion of fresh-out-of-school suckers.
It's that to me, making it a taboo as it is, really highlights the wrong issue.

Lazyness is a completely normal human trait, especially if you're working on massive, impersonal projects, you shouldn't be expected to be fueled by "burning passion" in the first place.
A bare minimum of professionalism, sure, but not much beyond that.
Wearing on your sleeve how much of a passionate worker you are, to me is counter-productive to what the real issue is.

Unless you're talking about your own project/indie game.
« Last Edit: November 27, 2021, 11:46:14 PM by Don Rumata »

Nintex

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #29218 on: November 28, 2021, 08:17:12 PM »
From what I understand most of these studios like DICE pay well enough but are completely tapped out creatively.

Truth is, 10 - 20 key staff members put the core gameplay loop together for nearly every AAA title. More often 10 than 20.
The rest essentially does the production work (assets, art, levels you name it) at their direction.
After their creative phase at best they move up into 'management' roles. Which means they're less involved with the creative side.
This essentially means that for each new game, a new team is formed, likely to make the same mistakes as the previous team as very little is recorded or documented and technology and trends move so fast that what little is recorded is of no use.

As studios and budgets become bigger it becomes harder for talented developers to steer the ship into the right direction.
Creative leads often leave not because of disagreements with management but simply because the team cannot execute their vision due to a lack of experience or unrealistic expectations.

The gaming industry is paying better and better as they believe that is the best way to keep people aboard.
Now that everyone can work from home on nearly every project they want it's really hard for EA/Ubisoft and others to keep their talent.
For example, everyone knows working on Fortnite sucks but it pays really well with a ton of added benefits.

There's overall a big shortage of experienced developers. Which means they're just being headhunted all the time.
Most underpaid developers would not have their jobs if more experienced developers were available.
EA didn't decide to save a few quid on their BF2042 UI by having only one UI guy, they just didn't have a better candidate for the role.

Some studios that are notoriously paying below standard salaries (Retro Studios) haven't been able to fill open positions for quite some time because there are plenty of good paying game industry jobs out there.
Although truth to be told, for some roles, especially software engineering, companies outside the gaming industry pay even better.
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chronovore

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #29219 on: November 28, 2021, 11:24:20 PM »
It's a troubling ecosystem for sure. I am reminded again of the ant colony which lives in a soviet bunker; they don't have access to resources that are natural for ants to use, but they have a steady stream of new "recruits" falling into the bunker from the natural world, above.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6124108/cannibal-ants-nuclear-bunker-poland/
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These fallen worker ants became a second “colony” living on the bunker floor, where they survived for years without light or a source of food — except for the steady stream of workers falling down the hole each day.