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« Reply #29461 on: January 26, 2022, 05:23:13 PM »
He's more of a Galoomba IMO.

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« Reply #29462 on: January 26, 2022, 05:25:32 PM »
what if the video game movie is wwf smackdown! shut your mouth?  :sicko
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« Reply #29463 on: January 26, 2022, 05:32:00 PM »
what if the video game movie is wwf smackdown! shut your mouth?  :sicko

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« Reply #29464 on: January 26, 2022, 06:38:48 PM »
Wait a minute, The Rock is bald. He's Lakitu, I'm sure of it.

He will be floating on a cloud throwing down Spikey's.
The Spikey's will be played by Alec Baldwin.
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« Reply #29465 on: January 26, 2022, 06:45:25 PM »
ok gex up close is giving me the same vibes as this






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« Reply #29466 on: January 26, 2022, 09:56:50 PM »
A few years ago I would have said "oh the rock in a good Gears movie is a fun idea".

Now I'd say "keep the rock away from gears".

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« Reply #29467 on: January 26, 2022, 11:02:09 PM »
https://twitter.com/dark1x/status/1486346402938736640

imagine giving a giant publisher money for this  :holeup

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« Reply #29468 on: January 26, 2022, 11:43:06 PM »
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« Reply #29469 on: January 26, 2022, 11:44:42 PM »
Even the best shots look like a Falcom game.

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« Reply #29471 on: January 26, 2022, 11:46:42 PM »
Even the best shots look like a Falcom game.

Were Pokemon games ever known for their graphics, though?  The original barely had anything going on and looked basic even for a Gameboy game.
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« Reply #29472 on: January 26, 2022, 11:47:15 PM »
Even the best shots look like a Falcom game.
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« Reply #29475 on: January 27, 2022, 02:42:10 AM »
Yeah the gfx suck, but did they actually increase the difficulty in this one?

I only played one pokemon game before because an ex wanted to play it together and I thought it was surprisingly decent but until they make the single player mode with a hard mode that plays more like Shin Megami Tensei, it's just a boring game to play SP. The depth is there, as you see in the MP, but the single player doesn't touch any of the depth at all.

I just can't imagine people raving about a new pokemon game if it's still a zzzz SP mode.

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« Reply #29476 on: January 27, 2022, 05:39:12 AM »
Pokemon is a gateway drug to becoming a furry.

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« Reply #29477 on: January 27, 2022, 07:39:59 AM »
And people thought sonystans were little justifying bitches. :lol That shit needs to go back into the oven stat.  I could give two shits for a pokimunz, but as an open world game, how is that even remotely acceptable?

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« Reply #29478 on: January 27, 2022, 08:21:07 AM »
And people thought sonystans were little justifying bitches. :lol That shit needs to go back into the oven stat.  I could give two shits for a pokimunz, but as an open world game, how is that even remotely acceptable?

Looks fine to me from footage.  There's an area shown with a big lake and not much foliage that doesn't look so hot, but the rest is OK.



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Again, when has the POKE-EE-MANS ever been about graphics anyway?  It's going to sell a bajillion copies regardless of how it looks.
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« Reply #29479 on: January 27, 2022, 08:33:17 AM »
And people thought sonystans were little justifying bitches. :lol That shit needs to go back into the oven stat.  I could give two shits for a pokimunz, but as an open world game, how is that even remotely acceptable?

Looks fine to me from footage.  There's an area shown with a big lake and not much foliage that doesn't look so hot, but the rest is OK.



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Again, when has the POKE-EE-MANS ever been about graphics anyway?  It's going to sell a bajillion copies regardless of how it looks.
True, but seems like a totally wasted opportunity and a bit of a gyp for such a popular franchise.  ..Like, they know the fans "don't care" about graphics (or what fans have been groomed to expect and think), so they don't treat the fans in any way other than 'tweaks' in gameplay.  This literally looks like it was made in Blender over the weekend.... and with a straight face, Nintendo will still charge $60 for this for years to come...   :yuck

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« Reply #29480 on: January 27, 2022, 08:51:27 AM »
True, but seems like a totally wasted opportunity and a bit of a gyp for such a popular franchise.  ..Like, they know the fans "don't care" about graphics (or what fans have been groomed to expect and think), so they don't treat the fans in any way other than 'tweaks' in gameplay.  This literally looks like it was made in Blender over the weekend.... and with a straight face, Nintendo will still charge $60 for this for years to come...   :yuck

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People who have played the game say it's really good so dunno if there's going to be much complaining.
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« Reply #29481 on: January 27, 2022, 09:11:00 AM »
Even the best shots look like a Falcom game.

On the Vita.
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« Reply #29482 on: January 27, 2022, 09:19:28 AM »
People who have played the game say it's really good so dunno if there's going to be much complaining.
And a fair weather graphics whore like me can come off sounding nit picky, but at the same time... it's 2022.. My galaxy Note 5 could pull off a better open world rendering.  It's a double edge sword I suppose.

The Switch has Pokkén Tournament DX, Pokémon Quest, Pokémon Let's Go, Pikachu' and 'Eevee', Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Rescue Team DX, Pokémon Sword' and 'Shield', Pokémon Café ReMix, New Pokémon Snap, Pokémon UNITE, and now Pokémon Legends: Arceus

And yet, only 2 Zelda's and 1 Metroid...   :shaking

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« Reply #29483 on: January 27, 2022, 09:25:46 AM »
People who have played the game say it's really good so dunno if there's going to be much complaining.
And a fair weather graphics whore like me can come off sounding nit picky, but at the same time... it's 2022.. My galaxy Note 5 could pull off a better open world rendering.  It's a double edge sword I suppose.

The Switch has Pokkén Tournament DX, Pokémon Quest, Pokémon Let's Go, Pikachu' and 'Eevee', Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Rescue Team DX, Pokémon Sword' and 'Shield', Pokémon Café ReMix, New Pokémon Snap, Pokémon UNITE, and now Pokémon Legends: Arceus

And yet, only 2 Zelda's and 1 Metroid...   :shaking

Four Zeldas counting the two Hyrule Warriors games :bolo

Can't say it enough- it's Pokemon, bruh.  Nobody is playing these games for the visuals.  I typically wouldn't care at all about a new release but I'm interested in trying this new one.
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« Reply #29485 on: January 27, 2022, 02:18:48 PM »
I’m not a Pokemon fan and am not picking up this game so I don’t care.

But I don’t think it’s ridiculous to expect one of the biggest ips in the world, where installments easily sell 5+ million copies, to up its graphics, production values, and presentation now that it’s on a console.

Switch’s power isn’t an excuse. You have smaller teams doing more with less.


SMTV does have some graphics issues and I do think the presentation is kind of meh. But it also has tons of 3D animated demons complete with unique animations and even some with unique attacks.  For a Switch game it looks pretty decent.

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« Reply #29486 on: January 27, 2022, 02:41:34 PM »
I’m not a Pokemon fan and am not picking up this game so I don’t care.

But I don’t think it’s ridiculous to expect one of the biggest ips in the world, where installments easily sell 5+ million copies, to up its graphics, production values, and presentation now that it’s on a console.

Looks like they have done that in comparison to the handheld titles.  It's a simplistic, cartoony game.  I don't want to imply that they should just get a pass and there's always room for improvement, but this latest title seems to look noticeably better than Sword/Shield from gameplay footage. 
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« Reply #29487 on: January 27, 2022, 03:03:24 PM »
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« Reply #29488 on: January 27, 2022, 03:17:35 PM »
I’m not a Pokemon fan and am not picking up this game so I don’t care.

But I don’t think it’s ridiculous to expect one of the biggest ips in the world, where installments easily sell 5+ million copies, to up its graphics, production values, and presentation now that it’s on a console.

Looks like they have done that in comparison to the handheld titles.  It's a simplistic, cartoony game.  I don't want to imply that they should just get a pass and there's always room for improvement, but this latest title seems to look noticeably better than Sword/Shield from gameplay footage.
In my minds eye it doesn’t look that much better than Sword and Shield’s open area. Maybe it does, but that’s not really a high bar.

Tales of Vesperia was also a simple and cartoony game and looks loads more appealing.

It’s not even just the technical qualities. They could have gone all in on the cel shading or something to make up for the visuals. Are just some visual flourishes. As it is it looks like some b level Japanese open world game. Like Toukiden 2 or DW9 where they just look copy and paste big environments made in a day.

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« Reply #29489 on: January 27, 2022, 03:37:11 PM »
As it is it looks like some b level Japanese open world game. Like Toukiden 2 or DW9 where they just look copy and paste big environments made in a day.

So...it looks like a Pokemon game.   :doge

If you want to talk uglySwitch games, check out Dynasty Warriors 9 Empires.  Night and day when compared to this Pokemon game.

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« Reply #29490 on: January 27, 2022, 04:05:22 PM »
I don’t really agree with your premise.

Pokémon games were never about graphics.....but they were on handheld systems and looked pretty comparable to what was on the handhelds. I would actually say no, that they looked and felt like big games on the handhelds. Silver in general felt like a huge game and had great production values for something on a GB. I’ve only played I think Black and White after? A little bit of Ruby which I felt looked great for a GBA game. Black/White also looked fine for what was going on the DS. Those last 3DS game also looked the part.

But now these are console games and seemingly have not that transition well when it comes to to production values. You say “oh so it’s a Pokemon game” but that kind of misses the point. These are the first games of Pokemon meeting the HD era and before Let’s Go/Sword there weren’t any set standards of what a mainline Pokemon rpg would look like on an HD console. Now we’re are finally realizing those expectations are falling pretty short.

I don’t think Pokemon should look like some b level Japanese rpg and I don’t think they did when they were only on handhelds.


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« Reply #29491 on: January 27, 2022, 06:02:37 PM »
nah pokemon looks bad
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« Reply #29492 on: January 27, 2022, 07:46:28 PM »
Pokemon is primarily a game for kids and the type of people that don't care about graphics or effort.
It's always 'just good enough' as there is also no viable competition.
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« Reply #29493 on: January 27, 2022, 08:01:46 PM »
Rahx, the Switch is a handheld.  Let's not forget that this is a 720P console that is capable of 1080P with the dock, but most games don't tend to go that high.

Am also going to pimp the mClassic™ again because it really can help make some Switch games look a lot better on TVs.

Pokemon is primarily a game for kids and the type of people that don't care about graphics or effort.
It's always 'just good enough' as there is also no viable competition.

I just think that all these games aimed at kids have this kind of simplistic, cartoony look, like Digimon.  Pokken, made by Bandai-Namco, wasn't a visual showcase either. 
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« Reply #29494 on: January 27, 2022, 09:06:00 PM »
Yeah the gfx suck, but did they actually increase the difficulty in this one?

I only played one pokemon game before because an ex wanted to play it together and I thought it was surprisingly decent but until they make the single player mode with a hard mode that plays more like Shin Megami Tensei, it's just a boring game to play SP. The depth is there, as you see in the MP, but the single player doesn't touch any of the depth at all.

I just can't imagine people raving about a new pokemon game if it's still a zzzz SP mode.

no, it's a total cakewalk. it is about collecting the pokemons, to which there is some small amount of difficulty but the main quest scenarios and "combat" is about as basic as it gets. it's a very good game, internal res upscaled on my pc in ryujinx it actually looks pretty nice a lot of the time, really nice animations, but the combat is threadbare at best. the game is about exploring and "catching them all" and that's done really well. some of the optional battles can be a little difficult, but not really.

even though the game's for kids, it's a little insulting it's this easy. my first jrpgs were breath of fire 3 and ff7 when i got a psx in 97 when i was 9. i played pokemon after those (3rd ever jrpg i think) when i got a GBC and it wasn't hard, but i don't think gen 1 was a total walkover. last pokemon i played before Legends was Black and that was also not a total cakewalk and pretty fun i think, but i didn't really think about it that much. legends is cool though, you can have some good battles when density of monsters is high. can get ambushed by 3 pokemon etc. not sure if more, my max has been 3. feel like they could improve the story battles a lot though. they feel like an afterthought.
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« Reply #29495 on: January 27, 2022, 09:06:51 PM »
The Switch is also an HD console with Monster Hunter Rise, Shin Megami Tensei 5, Ports of Dying Light and the Witcher 3, Xenoblade, Dragon Quest XI, Monster Hunter Stories, Astral Chain, and so on.

I don’t think the Switch is the problem.

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« Reply #29496 on: January 27, 2022, 09:08:54 PM »
The Switch is also an HD console with Monster Hunter Rise, Shin Megami Tensei 5, Ports of Dying Light and the Witcher 3, Xenoblade, Dragon Quest XI, Monster Hunter Stories, Astral Chain, and so on.

I don’t think the Switch is the problem.

all of those devs have been working on big 3d mainline projects for decades
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« Reply #29497 on: January 27, 2022, 09:15:14 PM »
The Switch is also an HD console with Monster Hunter Rise, Shin Megami Tensei 5, Ports of Dying Light and the Witcher 3, Xenoblade, Dragon Quest XI, Monster Hunter Stories, Astral Chain, and so on.

I don’t think the Switch is the problem.

all of those devs have been working on big 3d mainline projects for decades
Time and budget should be afforded to one of the biggest ips in the world.

Edit-Missread, but your Nintendo and its Pokemon, get help then. You had Monolith help with Zelda( a game that also looks better if only because of the art direction). or a company like Hexadrive, you have no problem outsourcing.  You have unlimited resources.

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« Reply #29498 on: January 27, 2022, 09:15:26 PM »
The Switch is also an HD console with Monster Hunter Rise, Shin Megami Tensei 5, Ports of Dying Light and the Witcher 3, Xenoblade, Dragon Quest XI, Monster Hunter Stories, Astral Chain, and so on.

I don’t think the Switch is the problem.

all of those devs have been working on big 3d mainline projects for decades

Most of those games put together haven’t made as much money as a single Pokémon game either.
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« Reply #29499 on: January 27, 2022, 09:51:06 PM »
Since it's been brought up, Monster Hunter Rise is amazing. Super polished and just insane amounts of fun.

Sunbreak should be out soon too. :heartbeat

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« Reply #29500 on: January 27, 2022, 10:26:47 PM »
Popular game does not meet my personal tastes
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« Reply #29501 on: January 27, 2022, 10:35:20 PM »
More like popular game that makes millions has a budget of $5.

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« Reply #29502 on: January 27, 2022, 10:36:16 PM »
The Switch is also an HD console with Monster Hunter Rise, Shin Megami Tensei 5, Ports of Dying Light and the Witcher 3, Xenoblade, Dragon Quest XI, Monster Hunter Stories, Astral Chain, and so on.

I don’t think the Switch is the problem.

And out of those, Monster Hunter Stories 2 is in the same vein as Pokemon.





They look kinda similar to me.  Same simple style and detail.
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« Reply #29503 on: January 27, 2022, 10:39:14 PM »


Also I mean you can find better screens of Stories 2 than that, but yeah that looks a lot better. More color, vibrant, actually looks like a cartoon and warm inviting game.
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« Reply #29504 on: January 27, 2022, 11:21:35 PM »
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Also I mean you can find better screens of Stories 2 than that, but yeah that looks a lot better. More color, vibrant, actually looks like a cartoon and warm inviting game.

It looks "a lot better" because one screenshot is much better quality than the other.  Look at the grass blades and the trees in the background- pretty low detail on both games.

And that's a screenshot of Xenoblade Chronicles X on Wii U, not one of the Switch games.
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« Reply #29505 on: January 28, 2022, 08:11:34 AM »
And that's a screenshot of Xenoblade Chronicles X on Wii U, not one of the Switch games.
Which makes this even more shameful. :doge

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« Reply #29506 on: January 28, 2022, 08:33:38 AM »
And that's a screenshot of Xenoblade Chronicles X on Wii U, not one of the Switch games.
Which makes this even more shameful. :doge

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 looks really good, but there's the whole changing up the character design for something more cartoony (and tiddy).  It also doesn't look as good when played undocked, which is to be expected.



I'm not up on the technical side of things, but although the Switch is more powerful hardware than the Wii U, I assume they have to reduce detail and/or resolution in games to keep the them running smoothly and temperatures down more so than they'd have to on the Wii U?
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« Reply #29507 on: January 28, 2022, 09:02:05 AM »
And that's a screenshot of Xenoblade Chronicles X on Wii U, not one of the Switch games.
Which makes this even more shameful. :doge

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 looks really good, but there's the whole changing up the character design for something more cartoony (and tiddy).  It also doesn't look as good when played undocked, which is to be expected.



I'm not up on the technical side of things, but although the Switch is more powerful hardware than the Wii U, I assume they have to reduce detail and/or resolution in games to keep the them running smoothly and temperatures down more so than they'd have to on the Wii U?
Which is unfortunate, but I suppose I can understand that, if that's the case... I really don't like the step toward Animu that Monolith went with in XBC2 though.   :-\  I expected them to ramp up the maturity look-wise, but it feels like a step back.....  ...except for the ridiculous fun bags.

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« Reply #29508 on: January 28, 2022, 12:19:59 PM »
I know it’s from Xenoblade X. That’s my point. Even on the WiiU a developer(owned by Nintendo) was able to do such a better job.

And Stories 2 dosent just look better because of any technical aspect, it also looks better in a art direction and presentation aspect. It’s a game that achieved a bright and colorful cel shaded look that fit its technical limits. Pokemon looks like bland crap compared to it. Everything looks muddy and the world carelessly put together with clumps of copy and paste geometry. Like some unity shovel ware.

You brought up Digimon Bork. I’d even say Cyber Slueth is more appealing looking then this Pokemon game. Very nice, clean, and colorful visuals with a sleek (but budget) presentation. It looks like a very colorful anime. Acerus looks like it was trying to go for some Fedual era Japanese painting but falls on its ass. Something like Okami has it beat.
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« Reply #29509 on: January 28, 2022, 04:22:58 PM »
the town and animations all look really nice. they did a great job realising the mons, giving them personality, nice animations. little details. that aspect is great. there are pockets of arceus that look nice, but yes a lot of the world looks a bit asseous. turns out, it works tho and the game is unique and fun if monster hunter lite x arpg pokemon catching sounds good to you.
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« Reply #29510 on: January 28, 2022, 08:16:10 PM »
The Switch is also an HD console with Monster Hunter Rise, Shin Megami Tensei 5, Ports of Dying Light and the Witcher 3, Xenoblade, Dragon Quest XI, Monster Hunter Stories, Astral Chain, and so on.

I don’t think the Switch is the problem.

all of those devs have been working on big 3d mainline projects for decades
Time and budget should be afforded to one of the biggest ips in the world.

Edit-Missread, but your Nintendo and its Pokemon, get help then. You had Monolith help with Zelda( a game that also looks better if only because of the art direction). or a company like Hexadrive, you have no problem outsourcing.  You have unlimited resources.
I'd rather they keep Pokemon simple and dumb so they can spend more time and resources on Xenoblade, Fire Emblem and Zelda which I actually care about.

The Pokemon target audience seems to be girl streamers and kiddo's who like cutesy animal things and games with no challenge.
They've been gravitating towards that for a while now, especially on Switch with Pokemon Let's Go and Pokemon Snap as well as the modern Pokemon designs.

If it has a cute Pikachu that's automatically a 7/10 from the crowd that reviews this, add in some servicable gameplay, midi sounds and a gimmick or two and it goes up to a 8/10 or 9/10.

This game is sort of the reverse Elden Ring. If you think the Souls games are too difficult and challenging you can always play around in Pokemon land and press the win button with the other 8 year olds. :idont
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« Reply #29511 on: January 28, 2022, 09:34:49 PM »
the town and animations all look really nice. they did a great job realising the mons, giving them personality, nice animations. little details. that aspect is great. there are pockets of arceus that look nice, but yes a lot of the world looks a bit asseous. turns out, it works tho and the game is unique and fun if monster hunter lite x arpg pokemon catching sounds good to you.

Just started it and I'm seeing lots of little details like a rolling cloud effect/shandows on the ground, water distortion effects, sand being blown up on the beach, tree leaves and grass blades swaying, etc.  Obviously this isn't going to win awards for best graphics, but it looks nice in motion and it looks nice and colorful.  Some of the textures are pretty bad up close (N64 lolol) though.  Pretty much what I expected- it's not a looker, but it's solid and has a good framerate. 

It also looks pretty clean when docked with the mClassic- it definitely helps with a game like this.
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« Reply #29512 on: January 28, 2022, 10:10:44 PM »
I know it’s from Xenoblade X. That’s my point. Even on the WiiU a developer(owned by Nintendo) was able to do such a better job.

Let's stick to Switch and not other hardware.

And Stories 2 dosent just look better because of any technical aspect, it also looks better in a art direction and presentation aspect. It’s a game that achieved a bright and colorful cel shaded look that fit its technical limits. Pokemon looks like bland crap compared to it. Everything looks muddy and the world carelessly put together with clumps of copy and paste geometry. Like some unity shovel ware.

It doesn't look like that at all.  It's simple, but technically sound.  There are also some areas/cut scenes where it looks pretty good for a Pokermom game. 



Acerus looks like it was trying to go for some Fedual era Japanese painting but falls on its ass. Something like Okami has it beat.

Arcerus reminds me of a kids' version of Breath Of The Wild, with a Meiji-era Japanese theme.  If I were a kid, I'd be going nuts over this I'm sure.  I like the more action-RPG aspect of the game...you can even move your character around while the pokemon are battling.  But I kind of wish the whole thing was action-RPG based including the battles.
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Rahxephon91

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #29513 on: January 28, 2022, 10:21:30 PM »
I mean if that is your idea of looking good then well.....you're clearly going to defend this game and Nintendo no matter what so I guess enjoy your game.

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #29514 on: January 28, 2022, 10:24:03 PM »
I mean if that is your idea of looking good then well.....you're clearly going to defend this game and Nintendo no matter what so I guess enjoy your game.

For a Pokemon game on the Switch- yeah, it's not bad.  It has a better framerate than Monster Hunter Stories, too.  I don't know why you think I'm defending it- I just don't think it looks like shit is all.
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Rahxephon91

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #29515 on: January 28, 2022, 10:29:25 PM »
Buying the game is endorsing Nintendo's incompetence and cheapness.

You have small indie developers that can produce better-looking games with such modern features as voice acting
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« Reply #29516 on: January 28, 2022, 10:31:17 PM »
Buying the game is endorsing Nintendo's incompetence and cheapness.

 :success
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Beezy

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #29517 on: January 28, 2022, 11:01:06 PM »
Buying the game is endorsing Nintendo's incompetence and cheapness.

You have small indie developers that can produce better-looking games with such modern features as voice acting
Buying just about anything from Nintendo is endorsing their cheapness. This one game isn't a special case. :lol

Bork buys more games than just about anyone here. Those indie developers will also get his money.

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #29518 on: January 28, 2022, 11:02:44 PM »
You have small indie developers that can produce better-looking games with such modern features as voice acting

https://nintendoeverything.com/game-freak-on-why-pokemon-sword-shield-doesnt-have-voice-acting/

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In an interview with Metro, director Shigeru Ohmori was asked why voice acting wasn’t included this time around. He pointed to the amount of work that would be needed for recordings due to the amount of languages supported as well as maintaining the idea players have in mind for the different characters.

Ohmori explained:

    “There’s sort of two main reasons, so firstly this is a RPG with a whole lot of text that we’re then localising and releasing in nine different languages at the same time. So from a purely practical point of view actually getting that organised and carrying out all the voice recording, the corrections and so on in nine different languages for release on exactly the same day is something that would be incredibly difficult. So, that’s one reason why we haven’t chosen to do it this time around.

    But the other reason is one of character image, in the sense of when you play a game, if you’ve got a voice on that character that instantly provides to the player an image, a feel for that character that they don’t generate themselves, it’s pushed on them from the development side. Whereas if we have really flavourful text, for those characters, but no voice the players can kind of create their own image of who that character is as they’re playing. And that’s something we really like to encourage as we’re creating games.”

When the anime voices were brought up, Ohmori added:

    “There’s similar linguistic problems – there are some where all of them are the same, such as Pikachu, where that would be fine, but other ones have completely different names across all languages. And another point to consider is that in the game we’re focusing on them as being living creatures, so having them making a sound like a living creature – rather than just shouting out their own name – is quite nice.”

:idont

I can see the thing about the monsters having different names being an actual localization issue, but there's nothing stopping them from having them stay silent or just make growls and whatnot.  Other developers might just have one or two languages and sub the rest, so the thing about nine languages comes off as a BS excuse.
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Nintex

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #29519 on: January 29, 2022, 11:06:27 AM »
French retailers have started to warn customers that plan to buy a PS5 that Microsoft has bought Activison.


In other news, COD2022 will be the last cross gen COD.
COD 2023 will be next-gen only.
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