Random Gaming Talk Thread

[MMaRsu]

No

[Nintex]

They fixed the framerate but added ghosting.

Almost there guys

Almost

https://twitter.com/windycornertv/status/1530177048462778368

[Pissy F Benny]

Soyny

[benjipwns]

You'd think Sony would be able to take DuckStation, XEBRA or whatever and use their internal knowledge to polish it up. (Or their own prior emulators.) PPSSPP is also remarkably close. PCSX2 is a bit of a mess but you'd also imagine that Sony would have the internal knowledge to do a lot with it.

Microsoft has obvious advantages as a software company but they looked at the existing emulators enough that they floated code back to the makers.

Just seems weird when billion dollar enterprises that produced the hardware can't outdo random groups of dudes. Also they seem to have a different opinion on what 1:1 means than everyone else.

[Nintex]

Soyny

Somewhere out there a poor programmer in India is crying rn.

[paprikastaude]

What's hard to comprehend is how Jimmy McNeckbeard in a cave can emulate Ocarina of Time and Dino Crisis with new widescreen modes and double fps after one afternoon of work.

But none of these multibillion dollar companies can. M2 the only studio with decent work out there apparently. Before that Bluepoint in their early days for HD ports. But they are dead now, probably making new story IPs for Sony no one cares for.

[HardcoreRetro]

I am loving that 1:1 pixel mode. That's actually a 1:1 aspect ratio. Good stuff.

[Nintex]

What's hard to comprehend is how Jimmy McNeckbeard in a cave can emulate Ocarina of Time and Dino Crisis with new widescreen modes and double fps after one afternoon of work.

But none of these multibillion dollar companies can. M2 the only studio with decent work out there apparently. Before that Bluepoint in their early days for HD ports. But they are dead now, probably making new story IPs for Sony no one cares for.

There is no career in this so most experienced developers focus on UE5 and other stuff. These emulators are then outsourced or made by jr devs.

The fan stuff are usually side projects from great developers working in other industries, retired or still in university.

There is also the issue of time and collaboration. Most community devs can spend up to a decade working on the same emulator, piggybacking on the work of others. Companies make this stuff with very limited resources.

[paprikastaude]

https://twitter.com/VGC_News/status/1530512991329865730

[Nintex]

A Mini Dreamcast would be wild but the Dreamcast was mostly popular in the US.
I think it would be cheaper and easier to do what Nintendo did with the NES/SNES/N64 Switch Online controllers and just re-release the controllers of old SEGA systems for Switch/PS5/Xbox.

Seems that the hype for these mini/retro consoles has dropped, Nintendo's Game & Watch things were heavily discounted last time I checked and PlayStation Mini's dropped to 29,99 shortly after release.

They're only more expensive now because they all got discontinued.

[Pissy F Benny]

Whatever it is, it will probably end up being disappointing

[D3RANG3D]

Pretty nice Ys III homage.

[Potato]

Whatever it is, it will probably end up being disappointing

I mean, it's Sega. What are they if not disappointing. They even sponsored Arsenal at one point, which is very on brand for both.

[paprikastaude]

Back to emulation: Last week's Pacman collection caught my eye, it looks pretty cool. I read up on it, apparently it's super glitched 

So is this where we are at? Big companies can't even emulate the original Pacman anymore?
They put the effort in with a fancy minigame for the menu und achievements. Which is nice. But really, just get the games running normally, omg.

I was looking forward to Klonoa and Turtles, I hope at least they are good (i.e.  functional)

[Svejk]

Back to emulation: Last week's Pacman collection caught my eye, it looks pretty cool. I read up on it, apparently it's super glitched 

So is this where we are at? Big companies can't even emulate the original Pacman anymore?
They put the effort in with a fancy minigame for the menu und achievements. Which is nice. But really, just get the games running normally, omg.

I was looking forward to Klonoa and Turtles, I hope at least they are good (i.e.  functional)

Not can't, but won't..  It's like the bigger they get, the shittier the service.  Sounds on par like Amazon and every big bank out there. We'll up prices, bring quality down, and you will like it.

[paprikastaude]

I mean, in this case they had the resources to create a whole metagame of building your own Pac-Man arcade. So it isn't even just a ROM dump. But they still fucked the most important part up apparently.

[MMaRsu]

https://twitter.com/Kidskull51/status/1530864564803448833

[bork]

Back to emulation: Last week's Pacman collection caught my eye, it looks pretty cool. I read up on it, apparently it's super glitched 

So is this where we are at? Big companies can't even emulate the original Pacman anymore?
They put the effort in with a fancy minigame for the menu und achievements. Which is nice. But really, just get the games running normally, omg.

I was looking forward to Klonoa and Turtles, I hope at least they are good (i.e.  functional)

What's glitched?  I saw some reports of input lag (which also sucks) but not that.  Also looks like they went in and edited out Ms. Pac-Man out of some of the games?

Edit: Apparently on Xbox the game won't load for some people?

[D3RANG3D]

https://twitter.com/HD_Kirin/status/1531577078482579456

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[HardcoreRetro]

https://twitter.com/assassinscreed/status/1531666851184447488

Good stuff.

[Nintex]

Hopefully they bumb the resolution too, I've been waiting for this to drop to finally finish the playthrough I started on the Xbox One X.

[paprikastaude]

Back to emulation: Last week's Pacman collection caught my eye, it looks pretty cool. I read up on it, apparently it's super glitched 

So is this where we are at? Big companies can't even emulate the original Pacman anymore?
They put the effort in with a fancy minigame for the menu und achievements. Which is nice. But really, just get the games running normally, omg.

I was looking forward to Klonoa and Turtles, I hope at least they are good (i.e.  functional)

What's glitched?  I saw some reports of input lag (which also sucks) but not that.  Also looks like they went in and edited out Ms. Pac-Man out of some of the games?

Edit: Apparently on Xbox the game won't load for some people?

Apparently sound bugs, achievements not progressing, etc
...on top of Pacman being a redundant game with input delay.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/SquareEnix/status/1531679815085871104

Hashimoto is retiring.

[Bebpo]

I wonder if Yoshi-P is gonna take over Hashimoto's position. My understanding was that Yoshi's been moving up the ladder and is pretty much brand manager for FF nowadays anyhow.

[Bebpo]

https://twitter.com/HD_Kirin/status/1531577078482579456

Decently excited for this. The visual style for the characters, like FF12 holds up really well when running it through high resolution emulators and widescreen mods and the SaGa Frontier Remaster had a ton of gameplay/content improvements.

I could never get through Minstrel SaGa back on PS2. It's a bit too aimless & obscure for me. Hoping some of the new features both speed things up, increase quality of life, and add a little direction (like being able to see your battle rank or something). They've been doing great work with the SaGa remasters so it should be good. Think I'll finally get through it this time around.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1531666944826363905

 

[Tasty]

Breath of the Sonic: Forgotten Odyssey

[Svejk]

Anyone else get some PSO vibes from that?    Is the OG Sonic Team on Frontiers?

Other than that, seems kinda cool to me so far... Seems like a proper direction from the Adventure games.

[Tasty]

Seems like a proper direction from the Adventure games.

True, but it also seems kind of... familiar...

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[Svejk]

Never did try 06 Sonix... Not sure if I should be shamed or be proud. 

[Nintex]

Never did try 06 Sonix... Not sure if I should be shamed or be proud. 

It was probably the closest we'll ever get to Sonic Adventure 3.
Overall it was a big fucking mess. They basically shipped an alpha build.

[bork]

https://www.gematsu.com/2022/05/ys-net-announces-fantasy-shoot-em-up-air-twister-for-apple-arcade

Shenmue III developer YS NET and Shenmue series creator Yu Suzuki have announced fantasy shoot ’em up Air Twister for Apple Arcade. It will launch on June 24.

Will it be as good as 1985's Space Harrier?

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Probably not!

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[Tasty]

More rail shooters is only a good thing.

[HardcoreRetro]

Hopefully they bump the resolution too, I've been waiting for this to drop to finally finish the playthrough I started on the Xbox One X.

It already had a resolution close to 4K on the One X patch. 3584x2016 with dynamic scaling.

[Svejk]

https://www.gematsu.com/2022/05/ys-net-announces-fantasy-shoot-em-up-air-twister-for-apple-arcade

Shenmue III developer YS NET and Shenmue series creator Yu Suzuki have announced fantasy shoot ’em up Air Twister for Apple Arcade. It will launch on June 24.

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Will it be as good as 1985's Space Harrier?

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Probably not!

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Thicc Harrier 

  Anything Apple

[tiesto]

I'm still pissed that that cool looking Sakaguchi rpg with the diorama-esque graphic style is locked to apple arcade.

[Svejk]

I mean,... it looks ayeet     Just looks like it's a tech sandbox with no purpose??  And holy crap, if that's the open world music, I think I'd eventually hang myself from being so damn melancholy.

[HardcoreRetro]

Did they just plop a bunch of game assets they made into a free Unreal 5 map? Needs a lot of work.

Movement on Sonic looks awful.

[Nintex]

It's kind of amazing they are able to make a Sonic game this dull. 

[paprikastaude]

Sonic is one of the few franchises where open world could have been an improvement, because gotta go fast and movement gimmicks would make more sense in an open field.

Yet it looks just as clunky to play as those corridor games 

[Pissy F Benny]

yeah that shit looks like an asset flip

it looks like some fan made garbage with objects and rails plopped around randomly with no rhyme or reason

[Bebpo]

Last 3D sonic I played was Unleashed. It was a bad game that I stuck through to the end for the NEXT-GEN GFXX. Never again 3d Sonic. Never again...

It's kind of amazing they are able to make a Sonic game this dull. 

You say this like terrible 3d Sonic games aren't the norm.

[Svejk]

I've seen multiple Made in Dreams Sanic games that look better. 

Somebody please buy Sega so they can stop embarrassing themselves.

[MMaRsu]

This is what Sonic died for?

[Polident Hive]

I’ve played SAGE demos that’d be mistake for the new Sonic game. Whether that’s praise for the passionate sonic fan base or dogging SEGA, I haven’t decided.

[paprikastaude]

Last 3D sonic I played was Unleashed. It was a bad game that I stuck through to the end for the NEXT-GEN GFXX. Never again 3d Sonic. Never again...

It's kind of amazing they are able to make a Sonic game this dull. 

You say this like terrible 3d Sonic games aren't the norm.

I 100%-ed Colours, it was fun after a couple of tame intro hours The secret was, make him less fast.

Of course, when they brought back Colours it was a completely botched port. Sonic Team

[chronovore]

I'm still pissed that that cool looking Sakaguchi rpg with the diorama-esque graphic style is locked to apple arcade.

It's just US$5 a month for the service. The first month is free. If you played it for 4 months, you'd be out 15 bucks.

Oh, wait. Jesus, I'm so embedded and brainwashed in the Apple ecosphere that I didn't even consider you don't own any Apple hardware.

[tiesto]

I mean,... it looks ayeet     Just looks like it's a tech sandbox with no purpose??  And holy crap, if that's the open world music, I think I'd eventually hang myself from being so damn melancholy.

Yeah, the open world music sounds like some generic RPG or Studio Ghibli music. And the popup... are they going for Saturn nostalgia with all that popup?

[bork]

This Skyrim mod looks more engaging than Sonic Frontiers.  The environment is better, too. 



Still don't understand why Sega keeps letting Sonic Team make shit.

[Pissy F Benny]

They know that they can give them a moderate enough budget to churn out some shit that will sell anyway because furries and other types of degenerates who enjoy sanic are suckers

[MMaRsu]

People on Twitter saying the game doesnt look half bad 😛

[Pissy F Benny]

when was the last time sega truly balled out with a proper big budget for a game? shenmue 1? maybe yakuza 1 at a stretch? but even there they rung every penny out of those assets many times over.

[Joe Molotov]

when was the last time sega truly balled out with a proper big budget for a game? shenmue 1? maybe yakuza 1 at a stretch? but even there they rung every penny out of those assets many times over.

What about when they gave a ton of money to Randy Pitchford to make Aliens: Colonial Marines and he just spent it on all Borderlands instead? 

[Svejk]

I mean,... it looks ayeet     Just looks like it's a tech sandbox with no purpose??  And holy crap, if that's the open world music, I think I'd eventually hang myself from being so damn melancholy.

Yeah, the open world music sounds like some generic RPG or Studio Ghibli music. And the popup... are they going for Saturn nostalgia with all that popup?

[Pissy F Benny]

got to give sega credit, they realised they can not bother hiring environment artists or programers and just give the dev team a voucher for the unreal marketplace to buy some pre-made levels to save some cash

[Joe Molotov]

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/sega-says-its-targeting-high-review-scores-for-sonic-frontiers/

“Sonic Adventure laid the foundation for 20 years of Sonic titles after its release, so in the same way I really hope that this new title releasing in 2022 lays the foundation for the following future Sonic titles – that is the idea behind the challenge for the team”, Iizuka said.

*looks at the last 20 years of Sonic games*

In retrospect, maybe that wasn't a good thing.

[Nintex]

With all the 90's nostalgia a campy 90's inspired Sonic Adventure 3 would've been a big hit.
They could've even created a game to tie in with the movies.

This thing could've maybe worked as a Knuckles spin-off or just an entirely new franchise.

[Svejk]

With all the 90's nostalgia a campy 90's inspired Sonic Adventure 3 would've been a big hit.
They could've even created a game to tie in with the movies.

This thing could've maybe worked as a Knuckles spin-off or just an entirely new franchise.

I would've been fine if they did full-on, shiny 4K, 120fps, remakes of SA1 & 2 instead.

[Boredfrom]

It doesn’t look too bad. Rough as hell and worrying given how close is to release.

People act like Sonic Forces was Sonic 06 levels of bad, so dunno if I ride the negative wagon right now.

They know that they can give them a moderate enough budget to churn out some shit that will sell anyway because furries and other types of degenerates who enjoy sanic are suckers

Kids are degenerates?

[Boredfrom]

This Skyrim mod looks more engaging than Sonic Frontiers.  The environment is better, too. 



Still don't understand why Sega keeps letting Sonic Team make shit.

If I need to guess, pride. The whole story of Sonic is a piss match between Japanese developers and western ones.

Then again, Sonic Boom an attempt of AAA Sonic game by western developers and everyone knows how it ended.