Random Gaming Talk Thread

[MMaRsu]

Wasnt it super hard to get credits/cars in GT7 or something or was that just a launch issue, and the online thing?

[Nintex]

Aside from the graphics Forza looks very mid and the progression has been GamePassed. Kind of dissapointing that it took them 6 years and they still use some old and very inaccurate car models.
Did Turn10 reboot half way through development or were they helping out on other games, because it doesn't make much sense.

Assassins Creed looks like the type of game that shuts down a studio for being so bland and mediocre. It will sell well enough at launch because it has its fanbase and is fairly cheap but I don't see it have long legs like Odyssey and Valhalla.
The Crew Motorfest isn't exactly lighting the charts on fire either (but that looks fun at least) I guess Ubisoft will have another dissapointing quarter ahead of them.


Now the Robocop game, that looks cool
https://twitter.com/AVGN82/status/1709635300106829966

[Bebpo]

Wasnt it super hard to get credits/cars in GT7 or something or was that just a launch issue, and the online thing?

There was a stupid thing a small amount of people complained loudly about that the top 1% elite cars cost a billion credits and it was a grind to get them, which they fixed in patches later on.

It basically only affected completists who wanted to own every single car. I never had an issue getting any car I wanted the full campaign and 50-60 hours I put in with just regular play.

[Bebpo]

Also AC Mirage isn't even a game worth talking about imo. It's a low budget DLC for Valhalla. Yeah they "expanded it" into a full project and are selling it standalone, but it's 15 hours and basic af. If it was just a DLC for Valhalla like it was originally planned, how different would it have been?

AC Valhalla Ragnarok was the exact same thing and it looks like the main story was about 10 hours. So I guess this is a little bigger effort, but it's still a DLC game sold at full price. I don't really consider it a mainline AC in the series and because of that don't have any real interest in playing it. Kind of like AC Rogue or the Vita one.

[Himu]

Robocop looks incredible. Modern yet retro at the same time.

[Nintex]

- You have to complete all the events in order
- Not that many interesting events at launch
- You have to do 3 practice laps every race
- It's no longer showering you with cars like Horizon but you now have to spend Car Points on each upgrade, you get car points just by driving

Even for Forza Motorsport this looks very dull overall

[Pissy F Benny]

I have it and it's Forza Motorsport, if you like it you like it, if you don't have any love for console sim racers you will hate it, the last few games were mega stingy with credits too.

You can skip the practice sessions but miss out on xp.

Also the pony ign dude is extra full of shit because content wise there's as much there as gt7 at launch, if not more and I don't think the updates will be the drips that gt7 has.

Fwiw I think I prefer the driving in gt7 at this point, but I've only done a few events with her standard starter hatchbacks so far.

[Nintex]

It's pretty cool that we're finally getting some driving games again.

With Forza though it feels like they 'cleaned' it up a bit too much in the recent entries. The UI and presentation look boring and the music selection is meh, Horizon 5 didn't hold my attention for long either.
They used to do more with these games. A special theme or new car type to focus on or a new feature like creating your own soundtracks or exploring the garage of whatever.
The switching between races thing they do at the intro is actually pretty cool but that is only the intro.

In contrast The Crew Motorfest looks a bit undercooked visually but it looks fun and has a bunch of new modes and features.

[Himu]

I might get a ps5 at this point. Want GT7. Main console will be Xbox still.

[Pissy F Benny]

It's pretty cool that we're finally getting some driving games again.

With Forza though it feels like they 'cleaned' it up a bit too much in the recent entries. The UI and presentation look boring and the music selection is meh, Horizon 5 didn't hold my attention for long either.
They used to do more with these games. A special theme or new car type to focus on or a new feature like creating your own soundtracks or exploring the garage of whatever.
The switching between races thing they do at the intro is actually pretty cool but that is only the intro.

In contrast The Crew Motorfest looks a bit undercooked visually but it looks fun and has a bunch of new modes and features.

There's a 5 hour trial for the crew, I played about half an hour and thought it sucked balls. By becoming a horizon knock off on a smaller map it loses what made the first two unique at least.

[MMaRsu]

Ubisoft driving games 

Their physics have always sucked ass

[Bebpo]

Was watching a video of the new Lords of Fallen and got me thinking how these Souls clones not only steal the gameplay but the aesthetic from Souls. I think The Surge is the only one that doesn't look like a clone artistically.

I feel like you can make a Souls game with your own aesthetic. Like nothing's stopping a game looking like Hi Fi Rush or Bombrush Cyberpunk of Ghostwire Tokyo and playing like Souls.

Would help the games stand out more and not just be From Soft-knock offs.

[who is ted danson?]

Still dreaming of the alternate universe where we're all playing the PGR 1/2/3/4 remastered collection right now

 

[Nintex]

They did PGR so dirty.

PGR3 was a fantastic launch game and Geometry Wars the original Xbox Live Arcade game.
PGR4 was great too for a mid-gen sequel even though it got overshadowed by bigger releases.

The graphics were insane for an Xbox 360 game, probably the best looking race game on the platform by far. The rain effect was at least a gen ahead and UI leaps and bounds beyond other games of that era.
Bizarre Creations also had much more accurate car modeling than Turn10 and was ahead in terms of gameplay and innovations. 

[MMaRsu]

Forza might suck but it looks a whole lot better

[Nintex]

I think the problem for Microsoft is that they already have Horizon, so Forza Motorsport is just weak in comparison.
Especially since they've removed the things that added some spice to Forza Motorsport like the special themes, event races and Jeremy Clarkson narration.
Plus a bunch of features like customization and replay are pretty much broken.

Meanwhile Horizon 5 is getting a new drift cam.

[MMaRsu]

Jeremy clarkson narration 🤣 dont try to paint that as a good or interesting thing

Horizon has been better for racing fans than most mainline games. I know its a different kind of racing but still.

[Nintex]

 

[bork]

Honesty, at the moment I’m using my 15.6” laptop as my main computer and it’s on the cusp of usable. So I’m reflecting on one two silly ideas. Either get the smaller 14” laptop and use a larger external display at home. Or get a larger 16” laptop and see if the Lenovo Go device can work for me.

The Go is looking good- have it pre-ordered and based on its specs it should be a slightly-better peforming version of the Asus ROG Ally, which is an impressive handheld.

Frankly, had I known it was coming several months ago, I would not have purchased a 14" laptop and would have just waited.  While the Go isn't going to be as good performance and graphics-wise, it's still going to be awesome for its size and form factor, plus costs a lot less.

For my next go-round, I'm still sticking with the idea of getting a small form factor PC (possibly even going back to Apple and getting a Mac Mini or even a Chrome Box) for general use and then a 'monster' laptop just for gaming.

Some months ago I picked up one of those portable USB C monitors. Better than expected for the $65 I paid for it. So, I’m even thinking when I travel, I’ll take that with the Lenovo Go. Treat my laptop as a portable desktop. One way or the other, somehow I decided Lenovo will get my money.

I also have a portable monitor and have done this before- aside from the mess of cables, you get a nice little modular setup that gives you more options than using a traditional laptop setup would.

[Polident Hive]

In theory, with the Legion Go it's one cable to the screen. Never actually tried USB C video out. Should test it on my steam deck.

Now the Robocop game, that looks cool
https://twitter.com/AVGN82/status/1709635300106829966

Demo was pretty fun. Of all the games it reminds me of, it's The Darkness.

[bork]

In theory, with the Legion Go it's one cable to the screen. Never actually tried USB C video out. Should test it on my steam deck.

Yup, should work with no issues.

[Nintex]

Runs like absolute dog shit on PC too despite all the downgrades, hence Mixed Reviews on Steam. But it's kind of ridiculous they spend 10 - 20 minutes on muliple E3 demos to highlight the main graphics features that aren't in the game.
I keep thinking there is just something wrong at the API or driver level because this keeps happening with 1st party Microsoft games and I don't think they plan to mislead everyone from the get go.
Hopefully we'll get some kind of behind the scenes account of what the fuck they've been doing for 6 years, probably rebooted this thing 18 months before it shipped.

Unsure how reviewers rated this game a 80+, seems a bit like Star Wars that also got good scores despite being somewhat broken at launch.
They seemingly just add a couple of points based on expected updates?

Ray Tracing looked so exciting when I first tried it in Control and Battlefield 5 but since then it's either been downscaled or kills performance so much that you can't use it without Frame Generation and DLSS tricks that have their own caveats.
Funny enough screen space reflections have only gotten better and developers keep figuring out more clever ways to improve them.

[MMaRsu]

Unsure how reviewers rated this game a 80+

they are generally idiots

[Svejk]

Unsure how reviewers rated this game a 80+

they are generally idiots

MS is apparently deleting poor reviews too. Lol

[MMaRsu]

Unsure how reviewers rated this game a 80+

they are generally idiots

MS is apparently deleting poor reviews too. Lol

 

[Svejk]

Unsure how reviewers rated this game a 80+

they are generally idiots

MS is apparently deleting poor reviews too. Lol

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/forza/comments/174xynn/turn_10microsoft_are_deleting_reviews_on_the_pc/

[MMaRsu]

Unsure how reviewers rated this game a 80+

they are generally idiots

MS is apparently deleting poor reviews too. Lol

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/forza/comments/174xynn/turn_10microsoft_are_deleting_reviews_on_the_pc/

Ahh thats scummy

But I do agree with this reply:

This makes me think they are deleting the trash stuff. I quit looking at reviews about 6 months ago because of all the BS "reviews". I just couldn't deal with them anymore.

[Svejk]

Unsure how reviewers rated this game a 80+

they are generally idiots

MS is apparently deleting poor reviews too. Lol

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/forza/comments/174xynn/turn_10microsoft_are_deleting_reviews_on_the_pc/

Ahh thats scummy

But I do agree with this reply:

This makes me think they are deleting the trash stuff. I quit looking at reviews about 6 months ago because of all the BS "reviews". I just couldn't deal with them anymore.

Yeah, I can't stand reviews, yet I still wait to read them.    It's a double edged sword.    Been reading/listening to reviews of Lords of the Fallen all morning, which have been mostly positive btw.

[Nintex]

Lords of the Fallen has gotten some decent scores but when I look at the footage it seems to have quite a few framerate issues.
There's apparently a patch already out for PS5/PC that will drop on Xbox later too to fix some of these issues.

Very impressive for a studio without the experien or size of From Software to develop a game that can be competitive with Elden Ring.

[Svejk]

Lords of the Fallen has gotten some decent scores but when I look at the footage it seems to have quite a few framerate issues.
There's apparently a patch already out for PS5/PC that will drop on Xbox later too to fix some of these issues.

Very impressive for a studio without the experien or size of From Software to develop a game that can be competitive with Elden Ring.

Seems most negatives are all geared towards performance. Especially during co-op.

Edit:  Wow..  Co-op sounds like it was a shoehorned in, untested, game breaking mess.  Read that it cuts the frame rate in half (30fps or less), the invited guest gains no xp or gear, but yet they can kill your npc's and brick you quest lines. 

[Svejk]

Some leaked footage of SUPAIDAMAN 2

Obvious spoilers



Wish I was into superhero shit still, because I'd be all over this.  Looks... amazing?

[MMaRsu]

[MMaRsu]

Windjammers 2 is now CROSSPLAY

https://twitter.com/Windjammers/status/1712109138052858361

Game is dope af so lets goooooooooooo

[Raist]

Runs like absolute dog shit on PC too despite all the downgrades, hence Mixed Reviews on Steam. But it's kind of ridiculous they spend 10 - 20 minutes on muliple E3 demos to highlight the main graphics features that aren't in the game.
I keep thinking there is just something wrong at the API or driver level because this keeps happening with 1st party Microsoft games and I don't think they plan to mislead everyone from the get go.
Hopefully we'll get some kind of behind the scenes account of what the fuck they've been doing for 6 years, probably rebooted this thing 18 months before it shipped.

Unsure how reviewers rated this game a 80+, seems a bit like Star Wars that also got good scores despite being somewhat broken at launch.
They seemingly just add a couple of points based on expected updates?

Ray Tracing looked so exciting when I first tried it in Control and Battlefield 5 but since then it's either been downscaled or kills performance so much that you can't use it without Frame Generation and DLSS tricks that have their own caveats.
Funny enough screen space reflections have only gotten better and developers keep figuring out more clever ways to improve them.

Turn10 indulged in bullshotting?

[MMaRsu]

Turn 10 you absolute knobheads

[Pissy F Benny]

The game crashes so fucking much, it's a shame cos the on track is pretty fucking good

[Polident Hive]

Space Harrier

There's a demo for this out on Steam.

It's good. Much faster than Space Harrier and there's some visibility issues, but getting a hang of melee attack timing helps. You can take bosses down in a few seconds. There's a slow mo that's out of After Burner Climax, and it seems it'll have an Outrun type of level select system in the final release.

[Nintex]

Turn 10 you absolute knobheads

A trend I'm seeing in nearly all 1st party Microsoft games for a while now is that they are frontloaded for the casual/GamePass crowd.

- In Forza Horizon 5 they simply removed 'progression' and showered you with the fastest cars right from the start so anyone can use those regardless of how much time you spend playing the game

- HALO Infinite put some of the more impressive set pieces at the start of the game and basically repeats itself after the first boss. The side content is entirely skippable and at some point there's barely anything between one objective marker to the next

- With Forza they seem to give you a taste of all the mechanics right from the start in a lengthy tutorial so you get that 'immersive sim racer' feel instead of introducing new mechanics throughout the game

Forza also seems to be stuck between a rock and a hard place. Because Horizon has the arcade market locked (and with some settings simcade too) they should just go full sim with Forza Motorsport. But they can't really do that because it goes against their philosophy that "Everyone" should have access and be able to play. So you end up with a game that has no focus.

[bork]

Space Harrier

There's a demo for this out on Steam.

It's good. Much faster than Space Harrier and there's some visibility issues, but getting a hang of melee attack timing helps. You can take bosses down in a few seconds. There's a slow mo that's out of After Burner Climax, and it seems it'll have an Outrun type of level select system in the final release.

I was able to one-shot two of the bosses using that melee attack- just slow down time at the right second and punch!  OP as hell.    The visibility thing was a minor issue for the most part, but was noticeable on the canyon level.  Still a pretty cool game and they nailed the arcade vibe, especially with the music.  Gonna buy it for sure.

[MMaRsu]

https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1713636624980906453

 

[MMaRsu]

Dead Space remake is nice

[Nintex]

And City Skylines 2 as well. 

I've upgraded my rig from a 2070 Super to the RTX 4070 Ti.
Literally everything has to update , but from what I've been able to test and benchmark this thing is bonkers.

I wasn't sure about picking the 4070 or 4070 Ti but since I'm fine with 1440p on my desktop PC I don't expect the 12GB limit to be much of an issue.
The performance of the 4070 seemed to be gimped considering it costs ~700 Euro as prices are already creeping upwards again. 
By now the Ti is ~30% faster while at launch it was just 20%.

I managed to pick up a very nice Gigabyte Eagle Edition of the 4070 Ti for 869 Euro, with Alan Wake 2 included.

People dunk on the value of these cards for obvious reasons but I still think its pretty wild I get ~3090 Ti levels of performance for half the money a year later.

[MMaRsu]

12gb limit an issue??

You were listening to those morons who said 8gb aint enough werent you

Im still on 8gb with the 3070 and it destroys mostly every game.

But grats on the 4070 man

I bought my 3070 at a very nice price around 700 euro when it launched, also a gigabyte. card is good

[Nintex]

A few games are nearly maxxing out the 12GB cards so the expectation is we'll see games exceed it with Ultra textures within a few years. It'll mostly become an issue at 4k though.
I doubt this myself considering the consoles but on the other hand optimization has been poor as of late.

Also this card was originally announced as the 4080 12GB which gave it a bad rep because it had different specs than the 4080 16GB.

[MMaRsu]

On the other hand why use ultra textures lol

[bork]

12gb limit an issue??

You were listening to those morons who said 8gb aint enough werent you

Im still on 8gb with the 3070 and it destroys mostly every game.

Yeah, I really doubt this will be an issue- at least not in the next few years.  I can't see companies having minimum specs that are high enough to prevent all those users with 6GB and 8GB cards from playing their games.  Good way to not get a lot of sales.

A few years ago when I was laptop hunting, all I saw was "OMG WATTAGE U NEED HIGH TDP/TGP!!!!!!!!!!" and now it's "OMG VRAM U NEED TONS OF VRAM 8GB TOO LOW OH NOES!!!!!!" on Reddit.  Meanwhile, the 4070 laptop I got is crushing everything I've thrown at it.    And then with DLSS, I can play some of the more demanding games at 1440P/1600P and the highest settings with no problems whatsoever.  I have yet to try 4K with this thing but I bet with DLSS that wouldn't be a problem either.  No need to do so though.

[MMaRsu]

Exactly especially with framegen too bad my card doesnt have that feature

Cities Skylines II looking nice



Although

"Paradox launcher and account steps "

another one for the open seas yarrrrrr

although I do have pc gamepass

Some good reviews

https://opencritic.com/game/15195/cities-skylines-2/reviews

[Svejk]

A random ramble… 

Listening to the Shinobi (PS2) OST… Although it’s no Yuzo Koshiro RoS masterclass, it’s still pretty dope and fits the fast paced, pseudo-cybernetic tone it had…

Kunoichi (Nightshade) had an even doper OST.

What are the chances of Sega getting their head out of the ass and release an upscaled combo pack of Shinobi and Nightshade?  Those games were tight as hell and ahead of their time in OG Sega fashion.  I’ve been dreaming about this for quite some time now… this needs to happen sooner or later.

[Nintex]

Forza Horizon 5 hits a stable 120 fps with every setting maxed out including ray tracing @1440p.
If I enable Frame Gen the framerate shoots up to 200fps.

What a beast 

[bork]

What are the chances of Sega getting their head out of the ass and release an upscaled combo pack of Shinobi and Nightshade?  Those games were tight as hell and ahead of their time in OG Sega fashion.  I’ve been dreaming about this for quite some time now… this needs to happen sooner or later.

Since that won't happen, you can at least play it at HD resolution and apply a widescreen hack on emulataz. 

[bork]

https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1715335261284962406

Used this to get a physical copy of Mario Wonder for $40.

[Nintex]

I don't understand how any of this (DLSS quality, FrameGen, Path Tracing) works but it looks clean af and runs smooth as butter @90fps.


Look at those glasses


Look at dem puddles


Check out those rims and materials



Nvidia is just selling us black magic now.

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

Bork, found a super exclusive handheld pc that looks right up your alley.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/325690348669

[Bebpo]

I feel like more people are playing/talking about Mario Wonder than Spider-Man 2. At least on gaming forums.

Will be interesting to see if Spider-Man 2 underperforms initially because of Wonder releasing on the same day.

[bork]

I feel like more people are playing/talking about Mario Wonder than Spider-Man 2. At least on gaming forums.

Will be interesting to see if Spider-Man 2 underperforms initially because of Wonder releasing on the same day.

Maybe if they were on the same console, but since they aren't, I doubt it. 

[Nintex]

You know who really got the short end of the stick.

SEGGAAUHHH

they got nuked from orbit

                                                                                                                             

[Svejk]

Oh man . So I put Air Twister on my PSN wishlist, since it set to come out in November.  Was excited to play it.. Supposedly there's some praise about the music.  Being a Harrier fan, I was anxious to hear the retro style, Falcor riding, 80's perpetual synth, so I pulled up the OST on yt...
And holy shit.. what is this fucking garbage music?!?  It's like wannabe Queen, Starbucks pop rock singing, but even gayer than Freddy Mercury.  It was so bad, I removed it from my wishlist.  Yu Suzuki... Why???! What's the matter with you??   

[bork]

Oh man . So I put Air Twister on my PSN wishlist, since it set to come out in November.  Was excited to play it.. Supposedly there's some praise about the music.  Being a Harrier fan, I was anxious to here the retro style, Falcor riding, 80's perpetual synth, so I pulled up the OST on yt...
And holy shit.. what is this fucking garbage music?!?  It's like wannabe Queen, Starbucks pop rock singing, but even gayer than Freddy Mercury.  It was so bad, I removed it from my wishlist.  Yu Suzuki... Why???! What's the matter with you??   

Asura The Striker's soundtrack

Here's hoping someone will mod in Space Harrier music to the PC version.

[Nintex]

After playing Super Mario Wonder I'm sorry to inform you that Nintendo has officially released crack cocaine on a cartridge.

Should this even be legal

[bork]

https://twitter.com/BigSkonk/status/1716254192195735622

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