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« Reply #20220 on: May 26, 2018, 10:33:00 PM »
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« Reply #20222 on: May 26, 2018, 10:35:35 PM »
I remember when that was just a travel  :lol
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Re: The NBA thread (Elimination games)
« Reply #20223 on: May 26, 2018, 10:39:55 PM »
so does anything actually matter in playoff basketball besides the last half of the 4th quarter ? lol

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« Reply #20224 on: May 26, 2018, 10:43:22 PM »
so does anything actually matter in playoff basketball besides the last half of the 4th quarter ? lol

Yes? Did you watch last night's game? The 4th didn't matter at all.

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« Reply #20225 on: May 26, 2018, 10:43:25 PM »
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« Reply #20226 on: May 26, 2018, 10:47:44 PM »
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« Reply #20227 on: May 26, 2018, 10:50:35 PM »
Ok, it's what? an 8 point difference? Let's see if any of this matters. I've seen point changes every time i've tuned in. None of this shit matters until the second half of the 4th but let's see.

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« Reply #20228 on: May 26, 2018, 10:51:34 PM »
Yes? Did you watch last night's game? The 4th didn't matter at all.

None of the ECF games have come down to crunch time so far.

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« Reply #20229 on: May 26, 2018, 10:54:29 PM »
Gordon is fucking up these free throws. That was a hell of a play to draw the foul though.

Also how about we ignore the dumbass outside of his dead daddy's thread?

this game gave me some hope for game 7, GSW are playing like trash

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« Reply #20230 on: May 26, 2018, 10:58:41 PM »
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« Reply #20233 on: May 26, 2018, 11:13:55 PM »
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« Reply #20234 on: May 26, 2018, 11:14:16 PM »
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Re: The NBA thread (Game 7)
« Reply #20236 on: May 27, 2018, 02:07:49 AM »
When the Rockets were up 33-19 :hyper :omg

and then that 3rd quarter happened


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Re: The NBA thread (Game 7)
« Reply #20237 on: May 27, 2018, 01:10:02 PM »
That game last night was always going to the Warriors. The setup was just too much in their favor. Hopefully Rockets can win at home. That's why they fought so hard to win all those regular season games. For a game 7 advantage.

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« Reply #20238 on: May 27, 2018, 01:24:01 PM »
I don't have much faith in the Cavs supporting cast tonight but things can change when the pressure is on.

The Celtics have played fast and confident at home, will be interesting to see if they keep it up with a trip to the finals on the line.

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« Reply #20239 on: May 27, 2018, 01:51:33 PM »
Yeah my gut is saying Celtics are going to win.

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« Reply #20240 on: May 27, 2018, 09:40:00 PM »
The 3 isn't dropping for the cavs. Still a close game, considering.

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« Reply #20241 on: May 27, 2018, 10:11:50 PM »
that was a foul on bron
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« Reply #20242 on: May 27, 2018, 10:15:20 PM »
that was a foul on bron

The block? I thought so too.

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« Reply #20243 on: May 27, 2018, 10:26:22 PM »
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Re: The NBA thread (Game 7)
« Reply #20244 on: May 27, 2018, 10:34:19 PM »
this sport turned into a pussy sport. everything is a damn foul, or a time out. do they even play?  :doge

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« Reply #20245 on: May 27, 2018, 10:53:50 PM »
That was a hell of an outlet pass to Hill. One more assist and LeBron has a triple double

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Re: The NBA thread (Game 7)
« Reply #20246 on: May 27, 2018, 10:56:24 PM »
No it's over

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« Reply #20247 on: May 27, 2018, 10:57:35 PM »
celtics  :lol :lol :lol  :trash
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Re: The NBA thread (Game 7)
« Reply #20248 on: May 27, 2018, 10:58:37 PM »
ok, that was anti climatic. one min it's a close game, a few missed shots they pull ahead.

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Re: The NBA thread (Game 7)
« Reply #20249 on: May 27, 2018, 10:59:09 PM »
Yeah both of these series have been pretty well officiated. Not lopsided and a lot of deference toward just letting the teams play.

This is honestly not the time of the season I really have an issue with the officiating. The conference finals and the finals typically have the sort of officiating you wish the league could maintain all the time.

Really not looking forward to yet another Warriors/Cavs finals, but Lebron has really helped cement his legacy this playoff run






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Re: The NBA thread (Game 7)
« Reply #20250 on: May 27, 2018, 11:01:30 PM »
will the east ever stop being trash?
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« Reply #20251 on: May 27, 2018, 11:02:36 PM »
No.


Hopefully Houston pulls off a miracle tomorrow.

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« Reply #20252 on: May 27, 2018, 11:04:31 PM »
One of the more impressive accomplishments I've seen to backpack that group to the finals. If you watched any significant amount of Cavalier games this season, you understand that completely.

That was essentially the Cavs finals right there since they have no chance in the real finals.

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Re: The NBA thread (Game 7)
« Reply #20253 on: May 27, 2018, 11:06:47 PM »
Choooo. Kinda rooting for Bron, if GSW gets through it could be a massacre tho.

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« Reply #20254 on: May 27, 2018, 11:07:03 PM »
What else is there to even say about LeBron at this point? God damn.

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« Reply #20255 on: May 27, 2018, 11:08:44 PM »
One of the more impressive accomplishments I've seen to backpack that group to the finals. If you watched any significant amount of Cavalier games this season, you understand that completely.

That was essentially the Cavs finals right there since they have no chance in the real finals.

I think you are right. About the only chance the Cavs really have is if Klay and Steph re-aggrivate their injuries or somehow the Rockets pull it off tomorrow. IF they could somehow get the Rockets, I think they would definitely have a punchers chance if CP3 can't come back.

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Re: The NBA thread (Game 7)
« Reply #20256 on: May 27, 2018, 11:10:43 PM »
Nice intensity game but super ugly.

Look at that 3 point shooting.

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Re: The NBA thread (Game 7)
« Reply #20257 on: May 27, 2018, 11:10:56 PM »
Yet another Cavs/Warriors finals where the cavs lose in 5 incoming.
5? :neogaf

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« Reply #20258 on: May 27, 2018, 11:16:18 PM »
What else is there to even say about LeBron at this point? God damn.
he definitely ruled the trash ass eastern conference during his career
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« Reply #20259 on: May 27, 2018, 11:17:05 PM »
Yet another Cavs/Warriors finals where the cavs lose in 5 incoming.
5? :neogaf

Golden State has been playing shitty for their standards breh

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« Reply #20260 on: May 27, 2018, 11:17:46 PM »
What else is there to even say about LeBron at this point? God damn.
he definitely ruled the trash ass eastern conference during his career

If he was on any top 5 team in the West, what do you think would happen?

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« Reply #20261 on: May 27, 2018, 11:20:15 PM »
What else is there to even say about LeBron at this point? God damn.
he definitely ruled the trash ass eastern conference during his career

If he was on any top 5 team in the West, what do you think would happen?
he wouldn't have made it to the finals so many damn times playing in a real conference
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« Reply #20262 on: May 27, 2018, 11:23:09 PM »
What else is there to even say about LeBron at this point? God damn.
he definitely ruled the trash ass eastern conference during his career

If he was on any top 5 team in the West, what do you think would happen?
he wouldn't have made it to the finals so many damn times playing in a real conference

If you replace Durant with Lebron, they would've swept Houston already

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« Reply #20263 on: May 27, 2018, 11:30:27 PM »
Super bright future for boston.

No Kyrie. No Hayward.

A hair away from the finals.

Still have future draft picks.

Still have assets to potentially trade like Rozier.

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« Reply #20264 on: May 28, 2018, 12:05:08 AM »
will the east ever stop being trash?
LeBron makes sweeping #1 seeded 60 win Hawk teams or 59 win Raptor teams look routine at this point. Doesn't mean those teams were "trash", LeBron was just better when it mattered.

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« Reply #20265 on: May 28, 2018, 12:07:09 AM »
but yeah, C's and 76ers are definitely the future in the East.


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« Reply #20266 on: May 28, 2018, 12:08:06 AM »
Those 80's Lakers teams regularly had soft paths to the finals but nobody holds that against Magic.

It's all good though. Anyone hating on LeBron at this point just doesn't like basketball.

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« Reply #20267 on: May 28, 2018, 12:10:47 PM »
Those 80's Lakers teams regularly had soft paths to the finals but nobody holds that against Magic.

It's all good though. Anyone hating on LeBron at this point just doesn't like basketball.

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« Reply #20268 on: May 28, 2018, 12:16:26 PM »
I just checked the stats, LeBron is having his best playoffs ever in terms of points made and assists.

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« Reply #20269 on: May 28, 2018, 12:25:15 PM »
Speaking of just having praised the NBA’s late playoffs officiating, Scott Foster is officiating tonight’s game 7.  :mueller


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« Reply #20270 on: May 28, 2018, 12:28:33 PM »
CP3 unlikely to play tonight  :maf

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« Reply #20271 on: May 28, 2018, 12:59:42 PM »
Those 80's Lakers teams regularly had soft paths to the finals but nobody holds that against Magic.

Just glanced at the 1982 season, which should really prove your point because there were still byes in the NBA playoffs then, and the Lakers played the #3 offense (with a league average defense) and the #4 defense (with a below league average offense) before facing the Sixers.

And no one puts Magic on Bron's level these days anyway.

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« Reply #20272 on: May 28, 2018, 01:02:11 PM »
That makes KD Larry Bird, right? Tall, lanky, ugly hair, ugly face, ugly facial hair, scrawny legs
Bird was an all time shit talker. KD will never get a "merry fucking christmas" moment

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« Reply #20274 on: May 28, 2018, 01:14:22 PM »
Those 80's Lakers teams regularly had soft paths to the finals but nobody holds that against Magic.

Just glanced at the 1982 season, which should really prove your point because there were still byes in the NBA playoffs then, and the Lakers played the #3 offense (with a league average defense) and the #4 defense (with a below league average offense) before facing the Sixers.

And no one puts Magic on Bron's level these days anyway.

Not to mention that Magic took that path on the Lakers with a bunch of hall of famers on his wing: Kareem and Wilkes, Worthy and Kareem.
Often with multiple all stars, starter caliber role players, and defensive stalwarts also around their core. Like AC Green, Byron Scott, Michael Cooper, Bob McAdoo  So I give Lebron a lot of props for what he did, even if it is in the Leastern Conference.

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« Reply #20275 on: May 28, 2018, 01:17:41 PM »
That makes KD Larry Bird, right? Tall, lanky, ugly hair, ugly face, ugly facial hair, scrawny legs
Bird was an all time shit talker. KD will never get a "merry fucking christmas" moment

Bird also wouldn't hide behind his goons, he'd go right back at you and could punch above his weight class.

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« Reply #20276 on: May 28, 2018, 01:19:45 PM »
That makes KD Larry Bird, right? Tall, lanky, ugly hair, ugly face, ugly facial hair, scrawny legs


typing "kevin durant passing" into youtube returned "why did durant pass up the final shot", "lebron passes torch to durant" and "did durant pass lebron?" along with a nine minute video of ricky rubio passing highlights

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Bird was an all time shit talker. KD will never get a "merry fucking christmas" moment
also, are there videos of the opposing bench celebrating durant hitting shots?

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« Reply #20277 on: May 28, 2018, 01:23:00 PM »
lol why do those old timey hook shots look like your dad playing basketball?

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« Reply #20278 on: May 28, 2018, 01:37:58 PM »
speaking of "what ifs" there was the article about Nash and D'Antoni talking about how they were already busting the game so much they were leery about letting Nash play like Harden except in select situations and now how they regret it: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23540049/how-mike-dantoni-learned-embrace-iso-why-stop-now-nba
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Avery Johnson threw D'Antoni a curveball in Game 2 of the 2005 Western Conference semifinals.

Johnson instructed his Dallas Mavericks to switch every screen, a bold strategy back then and something Nash hadn't seen while leading the Suns to 62 wins and earning the MVP that season.

It worked that night, as the Mavs pulled off a 108-106 victory in Phoenix to even the series after being blown out in the opener.

"I remember management and coaches saying, 'What are we gonna do? They're switching everything, and Steve's going one-on-one?'" D'Antoni said. "I said, 'Well, let me think. So their philosophy is to give us a 15-foot shot with the best shooter in the world? We're going to do that every time.'"

Don Nelson, as Nash's coach when he played in Dallas, often yelled at the pass-first point guard to be more aggressive looking for his shot. This was Johnson, Nash's former teammate before he became an assistant under Nelson, gambling that Nash wouldn't fire away.

Nash, with pushing from D'Antoni, accepted the dare and averaged 37 points and 11.5 assists the rest of the series. The Suns eliminated the Mavs in six games. That, in some respects, was foreshadowing of D'Antoni's future with the Rockets: force a switch and let an All-NBA guard go.

In hindsight, D'Antoni wishes it had been a sign of things to come with the Suns.

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As great as Nash was during their four seasons together, winning a pair of MVPs and twice taking the Suns to the West finals, D'Antoni believes he could have been more dominant if he hadn't been so determined to be a traditional point guard.

"Oh, without a doubt, I screwed that up," D'Antoni said. "Nash was a purist. Steve's a Hall of Fame point guard. He was unbelievably good. I just think instead of averaging 15 or 16 [points], he could have averaged 30 for us. He was that good of a shooter, and I don't think it would have screwed the team up."
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D'Antoni is convinced that the Suns would have been even more successful if Nash ran all those pick-and-rolls with a shoot-first mindset.

"If they even give a hint of going under [the screen], just whap it," D'Antoni said. Nash, now a player-development consultant for the Warriors who sees Stephen Curry shredding defenses with his jump shot, agrees with his old coach.

"We know better now," Nash said. "The math's been validated, and I think that's why point guards are so aggressive. It makes sense. We stuck to our traditional values, and that allowed me to stick to my personality, whereas I should have come further and further out of my personality.

"Yeah, I should have probably shot the ball 20 times a game. It probably would have made a lot more sense, but at the time, we weren't ready for that league-wide. Everyone was telling us that you can't win shooting all those 3s, and now we realize that we didn't shoot enough, especially when we were playing small. So, yeah, I think Mike's right. I regret it, too.

"But it really wasn't my personality and the culture of the game wasn't ready for that. So it was like a bridge too far, so to speak, at the time."

Nash referenced another of D'Antoni's regrets: that the Suns didn't shoot even more 3s. The criticism that they shot too many, which came externally from the media and internally from the front office, seems cute in hindsight.

The most 3s the Suns attempted during D'Antoni's tenure was 25.6 per game in 2005-06, an unheard of number at the time. That would have ranked 25th in the NBA this season, when D'Antoni's Rockets shot 42.3 3s per night, breaking the league record they set last season.

"If we'd shoot 30-something 3s back then, it was like, 'Oh my gosh!'" D'Antoni said. "That was like stepping out of the box back then. But that was like putting our toes in the water. I should have dove in, and I really regret that."

Zach Lowe had a similar off-hand mention about how a lot of older players were struggling on teams implementing the defensive switch everything mentality because they grew up in a game where it was uncouth or unmanly, sorta like how those Suns were treated for taking so many threes and taking shots on advantage...versus now when everyone chases the Heat/Warriors playing five-out at once with "backwards" screens and spreading the floor (people sometimes sorta forget the Heat had already started having Bosh setup way out, even out to the three point line, and were playing Battier as the other forward with LeBron and he'd go camp in the corner if not screening, then sometimes ditch Chalmers or Bosh to play Ray Allen since LeBron and Wade were the "point guards" anyway)

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« Reply #20279 on: May 28, 2018, 01:49:39 PM »
lol why do those old timey hook shots look like your dad playing basketball?
they used to teach a hook shot that was really utilitarian (along with other moves in college) so even all the stars until the 90s use those moves that look extra "old" today even if they probably could easily do more modern moves, I read an older article recently, Wilt stole an idea he got from Bob Pettit which basically eventually became Kareem's skyhook but Wilt was discouraged from it rather than minimizing the amount of effort and distance the ball needed to be away from his hands

one reason was that they were afraid guys would undercut him, teams had started doing this to Elgin Baylor for "being flashy" aka jumping in ways that weren't straight up and down (and also being black didn't help)

Wilt's minutes records have always been his most impressive to me, and LeBron's getting some of that love especially since as noted above his constant Finals runs in this era have been like two to three extra whole seasons at this point, but a lot of that was learning minimization of movements, whereas Bill Russell's whole game early on was more destroying cacs with his absurd athleticism than skills (other than IQ/smarts/etc.) and jumping a hundred times in two seconds if necessary (re: undercutting Russell or similar, the Celtics would fuck you up, Wilt and Baylor didn't really have those teammates many seasons, apparently Big O himself would murder your family for shit plays (main takeaway I got from that Sam Smith book is that his in-game persona has more than triple doubles in common with Westbrook))