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« Reply #21960 on: November 23, 2019, 11:06:49 PM »
The zero assists is somehow appropriate.

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« Reply #21961 on: November 23, 2019, 11:07:16 PM »
https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1198420108806361089

NBA should screw this talk about a mid-season tournament and playoff play-in to instead add the Rock n' Jock baskets and higher point spots to the second and third quarters.

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« Reply #21962 on: November 24, 2019, 02:30:53 AM »
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28145944/sources-nba-considering-reseeding-conference-finalists-postseason-play-in?platform=amp&__twitter_impression=true

I hate all of this.

edit: maybe not all of it but definitely the play in game part of it. How fun to watch a 10th seed make the playoffs.  :yuck
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« Reply #21963 on: November 24, 2019, 02:43:28 AM »
lol the play-in proposal is worse than I thought:
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The play-in proposal is this: two four-team tournaments featuring the seventh, eighth, ninth and 10th seeds in each conference. The seventh seed would host the eighth seed, with the winner of that single game earning the seventh spot, league sources said.

The ninth seed would host the 10th seed, with the winner of that game facing the loser of the 7-vs.-8 matchup for the final playoff spot.
So you could finish 7th by a significant amount and still watch two teams potentially well below you make the playoffs because you lost two games.

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« Reply #21964 on: November 24, 2019, 02:50:03 AM »
Last year this would have resulted in this in the West:

7. Spurs (48-34) vs. 8. Clippers (48-34)
9. Kings (39-43) vs. 10. Lakers (37-45)

The East would have had the Nets escape the play-in tournament by a tie-breaker unless they awarded the bye to the Magic for winning their garbage division:
6. Nets (42-40)
7. Magic (42-40) vs. 8. Pistons (41-41)
9. Hornets (39-43) vs. 10. Heat (39-43)

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« Reply #21965 on: November 24, 2019, 02:51:19 AM »
It's such a fundamental mis-read of college basketball and march madness and the nba and how fans relate to each.

Just like how player drafts were going to fix the all-star game was an attempt to fix a mortal wound by giving the patient some aspirin.


edit: They fucked up the coach challenge just as I said they would also. As a coach you basically just have to leave it to until the end in case the refs fuck up on a very late play. You should be able to challenge and get your challenge back if you are right. Or have a challenge for each half. But nope. They went with the worst possible case. So dumb.
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« Reply #21966 on: November 24, 2019, 03:01:42 AM »
If they want to do some kind of mid-season tournament they should just do like a three-on-three tournament on the All-Star Weekend nights. There's dudes who would want to do that rather than play the two meaningless games. And even getting mid-tier dudes/rookies/etc. from teams would make that fun.

I read that the players kinda liked doing shooting stars, which is why so many vets were willing to do it, but thought the league was doing it all wrong. Like how it's botched HORSE how many times.

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« Reply #21967 on: November 24, 2019, 03:08:55 AM »
https://mag.bleacherreport.com/jordan-magic-greatest-game-never-played/

1 on 1 or a 3 on 3 little tournament could work. You still have the issue of trying to incentivize players to give a shit about such a thing but that is a much stronger starting point at least instead of some 30 team tournament that nobody would ever give a fuck about.

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« Reply #21968 on: November 24, 2019, 03:17:33 AM »
In 1972, the NBA actually had a one-on-one championship that took place over like multiple months (they were during half-time of actual games and stuff) and culminated I think during a playoff game.

The finals had Bob Lanier basically just take Jo Jo White into the paint over and over.



They bring him the cash in a duffel bag :lol

They also did a HORSE Tournament at the end of the 70s (must be '78, don't see the three point line):


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« Reply #21969 on: November 24, 2019, 03:20:28 AM »
lol these remind me of the HORSE contest a few years back they did where Rondo was trying to do trick shots while Durant just took long jumpers and tried to win by attrition and Rondo made like a bunch of threes in a row to nearly derail it, Maravich is out here just throwing up crazy stuff while they're poppin jumpers

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« Reply #21972 on: November 25, 2019, 01:10:54 AM »
I legit love Semi-Pro. IIRC, they found out after doing the movie that a bunch of the stupid ABA gimmicks were close to the real stuff teams tried. They hadn't read Loose Balls or anything.

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« Reply #21975 on: November 25, 2019, 11:50:24 PM »
https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/1194826273702531072

 :lol

After this game Westbrook's brother tried to pick a fight with Montrezl Harrell. Also Westbrook bricked the game winner.
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« Reply #21977 on: November 26, 2019, 12:21:45 PM »
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28165154/the-future-load-management-potential-new-nba-schedule
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The league outlined new guidelines for injury reporting in a Nov. 11 memo to teams, a copy of which was obtained by ESPN.

The short version: Load management is now rest. Period. If you see that term, it will mean a healthy player is taking the night off. If skipping that particular game violates the league's resting policy, that player's team will be penalized.
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The league has robust investigatory authority to make sure teams obey the rules. A team cannot simply list a player as out with a sore whatever without evidence and sit that player in a national TV game that would normally trigger the league's resting policy, Spruell said.

For any injury, the NBA requires that teams submit documentary proof into a league-supervised portal, according to Spruell and team medical personnel who spoke to ESPN. Those documents can and should include official reports from examinations by trainers and team doctors, medical imaging and other documents, should the league request them.

"They get everything," one team medical staffer told ESPN.

If that is not enough, the league might require team doctors hop on the phone with John DiFiori, the NBA's director of sports medicine, Spruell said. If a team wants to rest a healthy player in any game that would normally fall under the resting policy, they must call the league office at least 48 hours in advance, the memo states. In practice, they are calling much sooner, according to Spruell and team personnel. Some teams have called a week in advance to test the waters on resting a healthy player, only to end up playing him anyway, league officials said.

And related to an earlier discussion:
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The league also has allowed for some wiggle room on what constitutes a "high-profile" national TV game, sources said. A game on NBA TV might not be the same as a game on ESPN or TNT. A Golden State Warriors-New Orleans Pelicans game without Zion Williamson and most of Golden State's foundational stars might no longer qualify as "high profile" -- providing teams more flexibility in resting healthy players.

On a semi-related note, the NBA and its broadcast partners -- ESPN included -- have recently discussed the possibility and feasibility of more aggressively "flexing" out scheduled national TV games that do not look as appealing in light of injuries and team performance, sources said. Some mega-teams -- the Lakers, for example -- will never be flexed regardless of injury. On some national TV nights, there are few alternatives on the schedule.

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« Reply #21979 on: November 27, 2019, 09:03:39 PM »
winslow back with the heat today. would've been nice to see him and butler playing but butler's sick (too many gummies?). heat getting wrecked.
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« Reply #21981 on: November 28, 2019, 12:23:58 AM »
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« Reply #21983 on: November 28, 2019, 12:37:07 AM »
That was a close ass game.

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« Reply #21985 on: November 28, 2019, 10:13:49 AM »
So I rarely bitch about refs. I'm not the type of person who is into phantom conspiracy ref calls. I also think the speed of the game and lack of refs with the angles they have pretty much makes many calls impossible to get correct and are simply guess work. That's not their fault. That's just the nature of the game.

All that being said, the replay system is a joke if the refs aren't going to overturn their obvious mistakes. That kcp call was ridiculous last night. And I've seen it multiple times in games this year when refs refuse to overturn an obvious mistake they made on a foul call.



What ever happened to that secaucus review center that use to handle this stuff?
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« Reply #21987 on: November 30, 2019, 07:45:06 PM »
https://twitter.com/VicLombardi/status/1200937552464580610

Stopped watching after the first quarter as Sac were getting so crushed. go back to see what's happening after I see it's gone to OT. final 7 seconds Denver have to make a 3 to tie it up, Murray takes the inbound, walks up the court and hits the paint without even trying for a shot. end game. :lol

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« Reply #21989 on: December 01, 2019, 06:15:50 PM »
he also tried to say it was due to his teammates not getting open and making screens

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« Reply #21990 on: December 04, 2019, 12:29:49 AM »
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« Reply #21992 on: December 04, 2019, 01:28:03 PM »
Almost a quarter of the season through so far so you can start to make some concrete observations about things. Just some random thoughts.


The Lakers are enjoyable to watch obviously. This is much better than the last few seasons in Cleveland. The team is an actual team. I don't think they are as quite as good as their record would indicate but they are good. Especially on defense. The offense still lags behind that somewhat especially when the iso stuff isn't working.

The Clippers still strike me as the team to beat especially when the playoffs roll around and the rotations get shortened.

Not sure what is wrong with Mike Conley. Just a new situation perhaps but his numbers are way off. 14 pts  4.6 ast. 12.49 per. I thought he would be great for them but it hasn't been working out so far.

I also conclude now that the rockets would have been better with Chris Paul. Westbrook is shooting 23% from three point range. That's his worst percentage since his 2nd year in the league.

The east seems surprisingly good. The top 5 are all pretty good and indy is the 6th and they haven't had oladipo yet.

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« Reply #21993 on: December 04, 2019, 03:22:00 PM »
I find it weird that ratings are down this year. It been the most enjoyable/interesting early NBA season in recent memory.

I wonder if youtube is finally cutting into television ratings. Because I find myself watching truncated NBA games (on youtube) way more than the actual live broadcasts. Same goes with NFL.




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« Reply #21994 on: December 04, 2019, 04:25:25 PM »
there is a strong correlation with superteams and ratings so it's not at all surprising. as much as die-hards love the idea of parity, the general or median audience don't. you can't compartmentalize your product as easily if there are dozens of teams in contention.

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« Reply #21995 on: December 04, 2019, 04:43:51 PM »
and admittingly, i've watched far fewer games this year due to a lack of an over-arching narrative. the only promising one thus far is the rivalry brewing between the clippers and houston, specifically between beverly and westbrook/harden. the embiid and towns scuffle isn't going to amount to much seeing as they meet like twice a year

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« Reply #21997 on: December 04, 2019, 11:04:19 PM »
I have been watching less this year for some reason. Aside from lack of Zion, I think the concept of a lack of (or altered?) narrative holds water. Injuries really wrecked a few key players/teams, and the season so far hasn't been what we expected.

Mavs fans happy though.  :lol


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« Reply #21998 on: December 04, 2019, 11:48:56 PM »
People kept trying to say that NFL ratings declined with the knee taking, but they didn't decline any more than any other television show. Maybe this is just the same natural decline do to people not paying for cable anymore?
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« Reply #22000 on: December 05, 2019, 12:07:33 AM »
I think this year is far more entertaining and interesting than any in recent years. It helps of course on a personal level that the Lakers are kicking ass but for me that's not the reason. It's simply because you don't have a juggernaut overshadowing things like the Warriors or the Heat in the big three era. You have good teams and favorites but this is the most wide open the race has been in quite awhile. That alone makes for more compelling viewing. I've watched as much basketball as I always do but the Warriors really broke basketball for me in a fundamental way that sapped a lot of my personal interest away.

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« Reply #22001 on: December 05, 2019, 12:16:19 AM »
People kept trying to say that NFL ratings declined with the knee taking, but they didn't decline any more than any other television show. Maybe this is just the same natural decline do to people not paying for cable anymore?

cord cutting alone doesn't explain the sudden extreme drop in ratings when just last year it reached a 4 year high

https://twitter.com/Ourand_SBJ/status/1201682472758583296

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« Reply #22002 on: December 05, 2019, 12:18:15 AM »
five teams in both conferences are on track to win 50+ games, then you've got one team each in the 45-48 range, then you have like four teams hovering around 37-40 wins for now but could easily get a late season 15-5 run or something and move up like Orlando and Portland and etc. did last season, so there's lots of jockeying still to happen among like ten teams in each conference

a fun thing is that all the good teams are in the top half of the league in defense this year, except Houston and they're 16th, so there's much about getting these offenses back in gear as the teams gel

also fun is the Raptors still contending in terms of wins projected (57-25) which would be second in the league sneaking past the Lakers

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« Reply #22004 on: December 05, 2019, 11:35:13 PM »
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« Reply #22005 on: December 06, 2019, 12:25:11 AM »


cord cutting alone doesn't explain the sudden extreme drop in ratings when just last year it reached a 4 year high

https://twitter.com/Ourand_SBJ/status/1201682472758583296



I was listening to Kornheiser today and he was talking about how local ratings for Wizards b-ball is down 56% (!!) over last year. Granted they are a bad team, but they were bad last year, too. That’s a crazy drop in just one year.

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cord cutting alone doesn't explain the sudden extreme drop in ratings when just last year it reached a 4 year high

https://twitter.com/Ourand_SBJ/status/1201682472758583296


I was listening to Kornheiser today and he was talking about how local ratings for Wizards b-ball is down 56% (!!) over last year. Granted they are a bad team, but they were bad last year, too. That’s a crazy drop in just one year.



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« Reply #22008 on: December 07, 2019, 06:37:42 PM »

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With 1.1 seconds remaining and the Thunder down two points, Wolves center Karl-Anthony Towns stood at the free throw line with an opportunity to ice the game. He missed his first attempt, and the Wolves sent forward Jordan Bell to check into the game.

As Bell walked into the game, his jersey was untucked, and Thunder guard Chris Paul loudly alerted referee Scott Foster of it.

"Jersey out! His jersey's out! That's a delay of game!" Paul yelled. Foster took notice, and called the Wolves for a delay of game. "Damn right," Paul said after Foster made the call.

It was Minnesota's second delay of the game -- Towns had been called for one in the first half for not having wraps on his knees unwrapped before he was signaled to check into the game -- which resulted in an automatic technical foul.

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« Reply #22009 on: December 08, 2019, 11:52:59 PM »
Anthony Davis was disgusting tonight.

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« Reply #22012 on: December 09, 2019, 07:41:32 PM »
How bad does Magic Johnson look now that Rob Pelinka, the current architect of the recent Lakers and guy he badmouthed publicly, has them running like a machine?

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« Reply #22013 on: December 10, 2019, 02:16:02 AM »
How bad does Magic Johnson look now that Rob Pelinka, the current architect of the recent Lakers and guy he badmouthed publicly, has them running like a machine?

Kinda not that hard to have a good team when you're gifted an in his prime top 3 player. Are we also buying Dwight Howard and Javale McGee play as sustainable?
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« Reply #22014 on: December 10, 2019, 02:33:45 AM »
dwight howard, absolutely

and mcgee is a 2x soon to be 3x champ. have some respect for the former wizard :maf

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« Reply #22016 on: December 10, 2019, 07:40:37 AM »
How bad does Magic Johnson look now that Rob Pelinka, the current architect of the recent Lakers and guy he badmouthed publicly, has them running like a machine?

Kinda not that hard to have a good team when you're gifted an in his prime top 3 player. Are we also buying Dwight Howard and Javale McGee play as sustainable?

Sure, but he also hired the coach and his defensive system is legit.

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« Reply #22018 on: December 15, 2019, 10:40:07 PM »
I think you could stick just about any coach and any combination of players around Lebron and AD and they would be very good. Which is kind of a dis but the role players have been working hard. Even KCP. So I don't want to overly crap on them.

I don't really blame what Magic said and did. I blame how he went about it. It was a very public spectacle that didn't help the team. There is a better way of taking a shit on somebody if that is what you want to do. Time and Place.

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« Reply #22019 on: December 15, 2019, 10:42:29 PM »
the parade is on. I'm still a bron hater, but I'll enjoy the championships just the same  :shaq
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