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My computer area was kind of dirty until I cleaned it last week, but even I didn't have food and drinks everywhere. Just a couple empty glasses (of water) and a bowl with salt in it (from pretzels). And lots of dust

she's playing WoW $:-\$

but seriously, a dirty guy is par the course. A dirty girl=

Bebpo · « **Reply #13628 on:** January 24, 2012, 04:53:49 PM »

Who cares, it's not like you're going to live in her place.

Tasty · « **Reply #13629 on:** January 24, 2012, 04:57:45 PM »

Dirty desks.

My desk was never dirty, occasionally it got cluttered but like a diet I took as much as possible off and I'm trying to keep that weight off now. Love having a clean, sparse workspace. <3

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #13630 on:** January 24, 2012, 05:01:52 PM »

My computer desk is a bit dusty, but I really don't like putting anything on it other than the odd sticky note.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #13631 on:** January 24, 2012, 05:51:29 PM »

what the fuck your leg cannot bend in that way (foot coming out of butt)

Tasty · « **Reply #13632 on:** January 24, 2012, 05:52:58 PM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on January 24, 2012, 05:51:29 PM

what the fuck your leg cannot bend in that way (foot coming out of butt)

I'm in that exact position right now.

brob · « **Reply #13633 on:** January 24, 2012, 05:55:55 PM »

thats not good for you andrex.

Tasty · « **Reply #13634 on:** January 24, 2012, 06:03:46 PM »

Yeah I only tried it out to see if it was possible.

Himu · « **Reply #13635 on:** January 24, 2012, 06:05:14 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 24, 2012, 04:48:31 PM

My computer area was kind of dirty until I cleaned it last week, but even I didn't have food and drinks everywhere. Just a couple empty glasses (of water) and a bowl with salt in it (from pretzels). And lots of dust

she's playing WoW $:-\$

psst

pd

she's not real

Shadow Mod · « **Reply #13636 on:** January 24, 2012, 06:07:52 PM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on January 24, 2012, 05:51:29 PM

what the fuck your leg cannot bend in that way (foot coming out of butt)

Uh you can't sit on your own foot?

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #13637 on:** January 24, 2012, 06:19:14 PM »

no. weirdo.

Himu · « **Reply #13638 on:** January 24, 2012, 06:25:08 PM »

i'd like to see fistful practice salah

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #13639 on:** January 24, 2012, 06:34:07 PM »

whats your favorite, himu? i like ceaser myself.

Himu · « **Reply #13640 on:** January 24, 2012, 06:34:42 PM »

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #13641 on:** January 24, 2012, 06:36:34 PM »

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #13642 on:** January 24, 2012, 06:41:54 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 24, 2012, 04:48:31 PM

but seriously, a dirty guy is par the course. A dirty girl=

women's public bathrooms are worse than men's public bathrooms. by far.

Himu · « **Reply #13643 on:** January 24, 2012, 06:42:36 PM »

nuh uh, they get couches

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #13644 on:** January 24, 2012, 07:23:53 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on January 24, 2012, 06:41:54 PM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 24, 2012, 04:48:31 PM
but seriously, a dirty guy is par the course. A dirty girl=

women's public bathrooms are worse than men's public bathrooms. by far.

This is 100% true. I've been in a woman's restroom once and it was pretty clean, but I've heard way too many stories about blood and shit in there $:-\$

makes me glad I don't live with one!

parallax · « **Reply #13645 on:** January 24, 2012, 07:23:54 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on January 24, 2012, 06:41:54 PM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 24, 2012, 04:48:31 PM
but seriously, a dirty guy is par the course. A dirty girl=

women's public bathrooms are worse than men's public bathrooms. by far.

its not even a fucking question to me at this point. ive seen too much to believe otherwise.

brob · « **Reply #13646 on:** January 24, 2012, 07:27:13 PM »

I lived with three girls for a year. our bathroom was off the chain.

Inspector Thatcher · « **Reply #13647 on:** January 24, 2012, 10:17:53 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on January 24, 2012, 06:41:54 PM

women's public bathrooms are worse than men's public bathrooms. by far.

This is one of the reasons why I hate my own gender. I don't know about the rest of them, but when I was a little girl, I was taught to flush and wash when I was done.

etiolate · « **Reply #13648 on:** January 25, 2012, 12:52:10 AM »

I knew I would get some interesting responses if I approached gaf with the Skylanders issue, but having my post reworded into Activision PR is something I never expected.

etiolate · « **Reply #13649 on:** January 25, 2012, 01:10:03 AM »

I'm against consumerism and what it is in America. I'm against taking advantage of the public for profit increase. (But not against profits.) I'm against on-disc dlc and hiding it behind kids. I'm against the idea of the consumer serving the company. I doubt there's no relation to raising a public to be consumers who worship corporations and future economic problems.

etiolate · « **Reply #13650 on:** January 25, 2012, 01:18:24 AM »

I liked turtles and transformers.

but

People aren't buying these to play with them as you would a TMNT. They are not action figures. The whole excitement over them is because of their relation to the game. They are on-disc content unlocks.

I went over all this in the thread btw.

Himu · « **Reply #13651 on:** January 25, 2012, 01:22:19 AM »

Quote from: etiolate on January 25, 2012, 01:18:24 AM

I liked turtles and transformers.

but

People aren't buying these to play with them as you would a TMNT. They are not action figures. The whole excitement over them is because of their relation to the game. They are on-disc content unlocks.

I went over all this in the thread btw.

when I was a kid, I would have loved something like this. so what if it hooks up with the game?

If you're against this, then surely you were against stuff like Nintendo Power and Gamepro and EGM.

etiolate · « **Reply #13652 on:** January 25, 2012, 01:27:42 AM »

What do you mean Himuro?

Also, just because I was a sucker for something at age 10 doesn't mean I should be a sucker for it as a grown adult that understands more.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #13653 on:** January 25, 2012, 01:28:02 AM »

I've seen women's restrooms and I've had women roommates. I don't want to hear anything about how women are cleaner than men.

etiolate · « **Reply #13654 on:** January 25, 2012, 01:32:42 AM »

I'm not giving a pass to turtles or transformers. I just admit that I like them. I am well aware of the harms of consumerist mentality because I was stuck in it.

If the content was separate and on the character then I'd be more okay with it, though it would still be a pretty fiendish plan.

Himu · « **Reply #13655 on:** January 25, 2012, 01:36:08 AM »

Quote from: etiolate on January 25, 2012, 01:27:42 AM

What do you mean Himuro?

Also, just because I was a sucker for something at age 10 doesn't mean I should be a sucker for it as a grown adult that understands more.

Basically, it seems you are against companion pieces that help drive the sales of the main object a. [a] being Skylanders. If you're against buying side things - in this case, being toys - you must also hate other forms of products that work as companion pieces, notably strategy guides, magazines;et al. What is the difference between buying Zelda: A Link to the Past, and getting stuck, only to get the new Nintendo Power guide to help you get through it and buying an extra product that adds more content to your original product? Nothing at all. Because money will still be spent.

Himu · « **Reply #13656 on:** January 25, 2012, 01:40:45 AM »

Between the ages of 8 and 10 or so, I was deep into Street Fighter. We'd hold tourneys at local arcades, I'd watch the corny cartoon show on Sundays when I wasn't busy going to church. I'd get Street Fighter action figures because fuck yeah, Street Fighter. M. Bison, nicca! If those toys allowed me to add new stuff Street Fighter II for Genesis it would be the best game ever.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #13657 on:** January 25, 2012, 01:44:56 AM »

Quote from: etiolate on January 25, 2012, 01:32:42 AM

If the content was separate and on the character then I'd be more okay with it, though it would still be a pretty fiendish plan.

A fiendish plan to sell toys that kids want. How horrible.

etiolate · « **Reply #13658 on:** January 25, 2012, 01:46:11 AM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on January 25, 2012, 01:36:08 AM

Quote from: etiolate on January 25, 2012, 01:27:42 AM
What do you mean Himuro?

Also, just because I was a sucker for something at age 10 doesn't mean I should be a sucker for it as a grown adult that understands more.

Basically, it seems you are against companion pieces that help drive the sales of the main object a. [a] being Skylanders. If you're against buying side things - in this case, being toys - you must also hate other forms of products that work as companion pieces, notably strategy guides, magazines;et al. What is the difference between buying Zelda: A Link to the Past, and getting stuck, only to get the new Nintendo Power guide to help you get through it and buying an extra product that adds more content to your original product? Nothing at all. Because money will still be spent.

Do I really need to explain the difference here? Companion piece? Here Himu, here's a five dollar ho. Oh you want a blowjob? Opening her mouth costs another $10. The blowjob not good enough? It's another $10 if you want her to slurp harder. You want to see tits? It's $5 per peice of clothing she takes off. Wait, you're complaining? But you just bought her a diet coke!

Himu · « **Reply #13659 on:** January 25, 2012, 01:50:43 AM »

We are talking about product a and how the products that accompany product a affect a mass market. in this case, you get more bang for your buck if you get some action figures. In our case, most of us got more bang for our buck if we had subscriptions to EGM. The point is, there is no difference between the two because they are both examples of "consumerism" as money is still being consumed. If you are against one, you can't be against the other. Especially when you consider that an action figure has a hell of a lot more use than adding extra content to a vidya game, particularly for children.

Himu · « **Reply #13660 on:** January 25, 2012, 01:58:23 AM »

In other words, what is the difference between:

- a kid seeing the new Fartblast: A New Super Hero film and wanting the Fartblast: A New Super Hero GAME after seeing the film?
- a kid wanting a new Fartblast action figure after having seen the new Fartblast film
- a kid wanting a new Fartblast dvd after having seen the new Fartblast film
- a kid wanting a Fartblast costume after having seen the new Fartblast film

And buying an action figure to accompany the new Fartblast video game that Charlie Rottenpants just got for Christmas?

Absolutely fucking nothing.

Though each and every item may have different prices, the act is still an act of consumption. You can't ignore the other ways people consume but then somehow get offended when some company thinks it's neat to hook up action figures with your video game. The very thing has already happened, just in different forms.

etiolate · « **Reply #13661 on:** January 25, 2012, 02:01:00 AM »

Himu, you get less bang for your buck because of the figures. The figures are a big part of the game. The figures ARE a part of the game. I don't need a strat guide to access something in the game, it just helps me access it. I can get it without the strat guide.

Himu · « **Reply #13662 on:** January 25, 2012, 02:04:07 AM »

Well pardon my ignorance on Skylanders - sorry, that's the thing when you're adult and you don't have children yet - but how is that any different than a lot of other toys lines used when I was a kid that said "collect them all today"?

Same line of marketing, different approach.

Marketing, consumerism, and advertising have certain evils, but this isn't one of them.

etiolate · « **Reply #13663 on:** January 25, 2012, 02:15:51 AM »

Segata:
one being a service and the other a product
a cable company will be dealing directly with adults

not the same really

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #13664 on:** January 25, 2012, 02:16:07 AM »

Kids are dumb. So are adults. See people who spend money on FarmVille. I can't muster the strength to care I guess...

etiolate · « **Reply #13665 on:** January 25, 2012, 02:19:10 AM »

The other thing is that this is a way for the industry to increase the price of a game. If this takes, and it's really taking with Skylanders, they can argue that the people are willing to pay hundreds for a single software title so they should stop charging $50/60 per game. Of course, the public isn't as wise to the fact that they are paying that much for a game.

Himu · « **Reply #13666 on:** January 25, 2012, 02:20:36 AM »

I agree that that's bad, but people are going to do it anyways. I'm with Stoney on this.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #13667 on:** January 25, 2012, 02:26:43 AM »

Quote from: etiolate on January 25, 2012, 02:19:10 AM

The other thing is that this is a way for the industry to increase the price of a game. If this takes, and it's really taking with Skylanders, they can argue that the people are willing to pay hundreds for a single software title so they should stop charging $50/60 per game. Of course, the public isn't as wise to the fact that they are paying that much for a game.

Games aren't going to go up in price because of skylanders. The market isn't even supporting retail prices now except for blockbusters. skylanders is a fad of the moment aimed at the least discerning portion of the market and parents willing to indulge that portion to shut up their kids for a bit.

etiolate · « **Reply #13668 on:** January 25, 2012, 02:34:50 AM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on January 25, 2012, 02:26:43 AM

Quote from: etiolate on January 25, 2012, 02:19:10 AM
The other thing is that this is a way for the industry to increase the price of a game. If this takes, and it's really taking with Skylanders, they can argue that the people are willing to pay hundreds for a single software title so they should stop charging $50/60 per game. Of course, the public isn't as wise to the fact that they are paying that much for a game.

Games aren't going to go up in price because of skylanders. The market isn't even supporting retail prices now except for blockbusters. skylanders is a fad of the moment aimed at the least discerning portion of the market and parents willing to indulge that portion to shut up their kids for a bit.

We'lll see. EA is going to try something similar in Mass Effect. I yet don't know if the content you get is on disc or not.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #13669 on:** January 25, 2012, 02:39:35 AM »

There will always be gimmicks to try to get more money. DLC, online passes, preorder bonuses, etc. I'm not saying companies aren't going to try to screw people in the future. What I'm saying is sticking action figures in mainstream games shouldn't be your biggest worry concerning gaming. It's probably a very niche crowd this approach works on. Skylanders is just targeting the niche of kids.

etiolate · « **Reply #13670 on:** January 25, 2012, 02:51:25 AM »

That niche is pretty huge Stoney. Pokemon-huge.

etiolate · « **Reply #13671 on:** January 25, 2012, 02:58:07 AM »

They're Skylanders. =D

I don't hate toys or kids happiness btw. My kids will have toys and fun, but probably not be given something like Skylanders. I realize my kids will probably hate me, but I'll deal with it.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #13672 on:** January 25, 2012, 02:58:31 AM »

Quote from: etiolate on January 25, 2012, 02:51:25 AM

That niche is pretty huge Stoney. Pokemon-huge.

But its kids games. And kids games have always sucked anyway outside of Nintendo and some other exceptions. Look at the THQ lineup for years. It just doesn't seem very relevant to me because I wouldn't buy Skylander and I wouldn't buy Pokemon either and I don't have kids.

Something like this

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-apple-earns-20120125,0,2362635.story

at a corporate level is much more likely to impact consoles or gaming or what constitutes those since we are talking billions versus millions of dollars.

etiolate · « **Reply #13673 on:** January 25, 2012, 03:06:00 AM »

Stoney: Judging from that thread, all the pokemon trained kids are happily blowing their money on this for their offspring and are somewhat jealous they never had such a thing. I can easily see the practice spreading and then at some point companies dropping the bomb that they expect people to pay hundreds for a game because they've been doing it without knowing it.

Himu · « **Reply #13674 on:** January 25, 2012, 03:12:28 AM »

Etiolate, using your logic on market trends, due to Poke'mon's success, all games will have two (even three) versions of the same game but with slight menial differences being merely completely different poke'mon (or in this case, levels) to conquer and master. Guess what? Poke'mon is over a decade old and this has yet to happen. Sometimes gimmicks are just gimmicks.

etiolate · « **Reply #13675 on:** January 25, 2012, 03:30:06 AM »

True. I just worry about this because of wider spread practices of hiding the true cost of a game. This game sort of trains kids to accept this sort of thing.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #13676 on:** January 25, 2012, 09:19:07 AM »

Quote from: etiolate on January 25, 2012, 02:58:07 AM

My kids will have toys and fun, but probably not be given something like Skylanders. I realize my kids will probably hate me, but I'll deal with it.

We'll see how well you stick to your principles when you're children are crying because you won't buy them a chunk of plastic.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #13677 on:** January 25, 2012, 09:30:32 AM »

I bought Skylander toys yesterday.

me

Broseidon · « **Reply #13678 on:** January 25, 2012, 12:30:43 PM »

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=34530039&postcount=477

brob · « **Reply #13679 on:** January 25, 2012, 12:44:12 PM »

them some nerdz alright

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