The Official Psychoanalysis GAF Thread

[Verdigris Murder]

I'm really fucking tired of the Catholic Church's bug up their ass about birth control.

I know. Wouldn't it be so much better if we just banged children instead, I mean come on, who's ever heard of a 6 year old getting pregnant.

[Verdigris Murder]

The joke being that Catholics use children as a form of birth control !!!!!

Oh my sides.

[Vertigo]

And his not even subtle about shilling for Dragons Dogma.

[Momo]

http://blog.livedoor.jp/geek/archives/51340519.html

About the piss thing, I cant be sure but this looks like piss being sold in Japan. Tell that guy he can be rich if he bottles it correctly

[Takao]

"Scent of girl"

Oh my.

[Joe Molotov]

"Scent of smelly Battlefield dork" probably doesn't sell quite as well, though.

[Momo]

"Scent of smelly Battlefield dork" probably doesn't sell quite as well, though.

"Scent of girl" is probably "Scent of down on his luck hobo" repackaged

[pilonv1]

"Scent of smelly Battlefield dork" probably doesn't sell quite as well, though.

depends what demo they're targeting

[Brehvolution]

I'm really fucking tired of the Catholic Church's bug up their ass about birth control.

This wouldn't be a problem if their followers had the same conviction. 

[magus]

http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=475192

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[Joe Molotov]

I can haz a sad, Japan?

[Momo]

jrpg = dead threads are basically portable -> console port begging threads

[Tasty]

jrpg = dead threads are basically portable -> console port begging threads

Or in the case of Xenoblade, Wii -> PS3 begging threads.

[Mr. Gundam]

There are plenty of JRPGs on the PS3. They might not be what the OP wants, but they do exist.

[archie4208]

http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=475192

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>Xenogears
>Deep

Whaaaaaaa?

[Himu]

I laughed at the thread title out loud in real life, then closed the tab

[Great Rumbler]

Ripping off Evangelion = Deep

[Himu]

> Evangelion
> Deep

[Mr. Gundam]

> Evangelion
> Deep

 

[Great Rumbler]

[Mr. Gundam]

I think it should actually be

> anime
> deep

I like me some anime, but let's not kid ourselves.

[Himu]

Anime can be deep like any other medium.

[Shadow Mod]

Anime can be deep like any other medium.

Yeah but most people like dogshit i.e. moe.

[Mr. Gundam]

When anime tries to be deep, it typically trips up on itself and falls back into the usual tropes.

[Shadow Mod]

When anime tries to be deep, it typically trips up on itself and falls back into the usual tropes.

Gonna be honest anime has worse fucking female characters than western shit.

[Takao]

i dunno, I think Helga from Hey Arnold is kind of the trend setter for the tsundere (sp?) otaku bait

[Himu]

When anime tries to be deep, it typically trips up on itself and falls back into the usual tropes.

well, i'm talking about satoshi kon stuff, Osamu Tezuka like stuff. stuff trying hard to be legit is not exclusive to anime.

i think it insults the craft makers to say it can't be deep, or isn't deep. every art medium can be deep. anime can do this, because anime is an artistic medium and exists to express something. it's not like video games, where the sole purpose first and foremost, is to be fun and not to move someone to emotion.

[Shadow Mod]

i dunno, I think Helga from Hey Arnold is kind of the trend setter for the tsundere (sp?) otaku bait

The female archetypes in so many animes annoy the ever living piss out of me. Everything from their voices to grown women acting like 12 year olds to 12 year olds being sexualized. Shit's gross. I only bother to watch shit like Cowboy Bebop.

[Himu]

watch seinen anime. case closed.

[Shadow Mod]

watch seinen anime. case closed.

Recommend me some shit. And no bullshit like Ghost in the Shell. That one bored me to tears.

[Himu]

ghost in the shell movie or ghost in the shell tv series? tv series is a classic. movie is...mixed.

[tiesto]

Devo, what about Miyazaki? Have you tried any of his films?

Or Serial Experiments Lain. That's a "deep" anime if I've ever seen one. And has a female character I'd hardly call sexualized or in a subservient role or what-have-you. I still have no idea wtf Lain is about after seeing the whole thing twice 

I love crazy Japanese stuff that makes no sense though.

[Shadow Mod]

ghost in the shell movie or ghost in the shell tv series? tv series is a classic. movie is...mixed.

Series. I just didn't get into it at all.

I've watched tons of Studio Ghibli movies. Is there a Berzerk anime by any chance? I'd watch that.

[Himu]

Berserk anime is seinen. And yes, it exists.

[TakingBackSunday]

I wasn't even sure if I should've mentioned Ghibli, wasn't sure if it was considered anime.  Shits great.

[Himu]

western cartoons and eastern cartoons are both great for different reasons, but i respect that eastern ethic more. outside of a few (Batman: TAS for example) most western cartoons exist purely to make people laugh. eastern cartoons? right now i'm watching an anime about a group of kids who make a jazz band. no action, little comedy, just characters. point me to one single western cartoon that is remotely like this. so when people talk about the japanese story telling, i think that's what they're talking about. the story telling isn't better, per se, but there are a more varied amount of stories.

outside of pixar, i can't think of one studio that makes cartoons approaching this.

[BlueTsunami]

The Ghost in the Shell movies have some awesome scenes

[Shadow Mod]

western cartoons and eastern cartoons are both great for different reasons, but i respect that eastern ethic more. outside of a few (Batman: TAS for example) most western cartoons exist purely to make people laugh. eastern cartoons? right now i'm watching an anime about a group of kids who make a jazz band. no action, little comedy, just characters. point me to one single western cartoon that is remotely like this. so when people talk about the japanese story telling, i think that's what they're talking about. the story telling isn't better, per se, but there are a more varied amount of stories.

outside of pixar, i can't think of one studio that makes cartoons approaching this.

Are you focusing on North American made stuff?

[Himu]

For the most part, but also canadian and british. i am a whore for cartoons, you see. japanese cartons are great because of their variety, but they're mostly varied because of their main influence: japanese comics. Japanese comics, must hlike Japanese cartoons, are more varied than the western alternative. I read a manga about a dude in a handicapped basketball team and the trials he has to go through. once again, i would like to see a western equivalent. That's not to say one is better than the other, but i think the japanese take advantage of the mediums far better than any other region.

but of course, it is my dream to make a studio that makes animation like this to end the japanese monopoly. but it won't ever happen.

[brawndolicious]

western cartoons and eastern cartoons are both great for different reasons, but i respect that eastern ethic more. outside of a few (Batman: TAS for example) most western cartoons exist purely to make people laugh. eastern cartoons? right now i'm watching an anime about a group of kids who make a jazz band. no action, little comedy, just characters. point me to one single western cartoon that is remotely like this. so when people talk about the japanese story telling, i think that's what they're talking about. the story telling isn't better, per se, but there are a more varied amount of stories.

outside of pixar, i can't think of one studio that makes cartoons approaching this.

The Boondocks
Samurai Jack
King of the Hill

They do make jokes but they are mostly about the characters.

[Shadow Mod]

 I ask because I've been meaning to watch more animation from Europe, I got into a thing after watching the Triplets of Belleville. Realized I had been missing out.

[Himu]

western cartoons and eastern cartoons are both great for different reasons, but i respect that eastern ethic more. outside of a few (Batman: TAS for example) most western cartoons exist purely to make people laugh. eastern cartoons? right now i'm watching an anime about a group of kids who make a jazz band. no action, little comedy, just characters. point me to one single western cartoon that is remotely like this. so when people talk about the japanese story telling, i think that's what they're talking about. the story telling isn't better, per se, but there are a more varied amount of stories.

outside of pixar, i can't think of one studio that makes cartoons approaching this.

The Boondocks
Samurai Jack
King of the Hill

They do make jokes but they are mostly about the characters.

the boondocks and king of the hill are comedies. samurai jack is an action show. that's entirely different. kids on the slope, however, could be filmed live. it is only slice of life and about a group of kids' passion for music. space brothers could be filmed live, while it has the occasional comedy bit - which was made purely for the anime - it only ever about two brothers becoming astronauts.

[Great Rumbler]

i dunno, I think Helga from Hey Arnold is kind of the trend setter for the tsundere (sp?) otaku bait

The female archetypes in so many animes annoy the ever living piss out of me. Everything from their voices to grown women acting like 12 year olds to 12 year olds being sexualized. Shit's gross. I only bother to watch shit like Cowboy Bebop.

Redline [amazing animation extravaganza]
The Big O [the over-arching storyline can get really convoluted, but a lot of the single-episode stories are really, really great]
Kino's Journey [younger female character but nothing sexual at all, lots of philosophizing but nothing too deep or convoluted]
Haibane Renmei [younger female characters but nothing sexual from what I remember, great show]
Macross Plus [Top Gun: The Anime, if you're into that sort of thing, made by a lot of the same people that did Cowboy Bebop]
Cromartie High School [a really crazy, surreal show about a school for delinquents]
Everything by Satoshi Kon and Hayao Miyazaki [natch]
Patlabor [3 movies, a TV series, and two OVA series; a show about police officers who pilot giant robots, good mix of humor and action]
Planetes [hard scifi, lots of outer space with realistic physics and the like]
Aria [one of the better slice of life shows, mostly female cast but nothing sexualized here, good balance of science-fiction/fantasy, idealized Italy, and fluff]
Heat Guy J [action series set in a futuristic city, kinda like GitS but doesn't try to be deep or anything like that]
Darker Than Black [kinda like a Japanese take on American superheroes, but serious rather than over-the-top]
Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust [post-apocalyptic vampires]
Detroit Metal City [a death metal band is lead by the Lord of Darkness, Krauser, who is really a wimpy kid who dreams of playing lighthearted pop songs]
Mushishi [a guy travels around helping people who are afflicted by mystical creatures]
Dai-Guard [office workers save the world by piloting a giant robot]
Time Stranger [I recommend this as much as I can, it's a really great movie]
Ghost Hunt [one of the better supernatural animes I've seen, can be really creepy, but is also lighthearted sometimes without falling into many of the traps that other anime do]
NieA Under 7 [same original creator as Serial Experiments Lain and Haibane Renmei, slice-of-life about a poor college student who lives with an even poorer alien]
Genshiken [it's a show about anime nerds, often hits very close to home ]
Witch Hunter Robin [a group hunts down witches in modern-ish Japan]
Reign: The Conqueror [one of the most homo-erotic anime ever made]

Whew.

[Shadow Mod]

Gonna save that list. 

[brob]

I ask because I've been meaning to watch more animation from Europe, I got into a thing after watching the Triplets of Belleville. Realized I had been missing out.

Sylvain Chomet's (of The Triplets of Belleville fame) best film is his short The Old Lady and the Pigeons. both of his features are kinda shaky comparatively, although good fun.

Also:
Marcell Jankovics' Son of the White Mare, Yuri Norstein's Hedgehog in the Fog and Tale of Tales, Fedor Khitruk's Lion & Ox, Aleksandr Petrov's Old Man and the Sea, Jiri Barta's The Pied Piper, Jan Svankmajer's Dimensions of Dialogue

[Great Rumbler]

Gonna save that list. 

Yeah, that's definitely a good starting point. Actually, scratch that, my list is a good ENDING point. Watch those and then don't ever watch any other anime. It's for your own good, really.

[brob]

Michiko & Hatchin is missing. u sux. also himu sux for thinking the ghost in a shell tv series is better than the film.

[Shaka Khan]

I haven't seen a single anime from GR's list except Witch Hunter Robin. I remember really liking it, but in retrospect it may have been a little too emo.

[Himu]

Disagree, it's missing crucial stuff like films, and things like Hellsing Ultimate or Baccano, even stuff like Beck. It's a very limited list and stuff on there are not even that great like Planetes and Witch Hunter Robin.

[Himu]

Michiko & Hatchin is missing. u sux. also himu sux for thinking the ghost in a shell tv series is better than the film.

michiko and hatchin is pap. good looking, and especially sounds great. but pap, more or less.

ghost in the shell tv > movie is a pretty standard opinion.

[brob]

Evangelion being good is also a standard opinion. your sux status remains.

[Himu]

Moe being good is not a standard anime opinion from people with good taste (tm)

[brob]

preferring the ghost in the shell tv series is also at odds with good taste so the point stands

[Himu]

Nice edit.

Touche'.

[Himu]

preferring the ghost in the shell tv series is also at odds with good taste so the point stands

In what way is the film better? then again i haven't seen it since i was a teenager

[brawndolicious]

western cartoons and eastern cartoons are both great for different reasons, but i respect that eastern ethic more. outside of a few (Batman: TAS for example) most western cartoons exist purely to make people laugh. eastern cartoons? right now i'm watching an anime about a group of kids who make a jazz band. no action, little comedy, just characters. point me to one single western cartoon that is remotely like this. so when people talk about the japanese story telling, i think that's what they're talking about. the story telling isn't better, per se, but there are a more varied amount of stories.

outside of pixar, i can't think of one studio that makes cartoons approaching this.

The Boondocks
Samurai Jack
King of the Hill
They do make jokes but they are mostly about the characters.

the boondocks and king of the hill are comedies. samurai jack is an action show. that's entirely different. kids on the slope, however, could be filmed live. it is only slice of life and about a group of kids' passion for music. space brothers could be filmed live, while it has the occasional comedy bit - which was made purely for the anime - it only ever about two brothers becoming astronauts.

Those shows are still mostly about the characters. King of the Hill and The Boondocks could easily be live action too. But they aren't, instead those cartoons manage to tell us great stories about American culture and politics. These shows do transcend above simple entertainment, you can't deny that.

And Breaking Bad is better than The Wire.

[Himu]

western cartoons and eastern cartoons are both great for different reasons, but i respect that eastern ethic more. outside of a few (Batman: TAS for example) most western cartoons exist purely to make people laugh. eastern cartoons? right now i'm watching an anime about a group of kids who make a jazz band. no action, little comedy, just characters. point me to one single western cartoon that is remotely like this. so when people talk about the japanese story telling, i think that's what they're talking about. the story telling isn't better, per se, but there are a more varied amount of stories.

outside of pixar, i can't think of one studio that makes cartoons approaching this.

The Boondocks
Samurai Jack
King of the Hill
They do make jokes but they are mostly about the characters.

the boondocks and king of the hill are comedies. samurai jack is an action show. that's entirely different. kids on the slope, however, could be filmed live. it is only slice of life and about a group of kids' passion for music. space brothers could be filmed live, while it has the occasional comedy bit - which was made purely for the anime - it only ever about two brothers becoming astronauts.

Those shows are still mostly about the characters. King of the Hill and The Boondocks could easily be live action too. But they aren't, instead those cartoons manage to tell us great stories about American culture and politics. These shows do transcend above simple entertainment, you can't deny that.

And Breaking Bad is better than The Wire.

You're still missing my point. They're still comedies, albeit refreshing takes with their social commentary, but they still exist purely to make people laugh. Kids on the Slope is not a comedy. It is literally about a bunch of teenagers who like playing music and form a jazz band. That is all there is to it. It is like you are being obtuse to reject my overall point.

I mean, you keep bringing up characters, like that means something. The Simpsons, in its early seasons, was all about the town of Springfield and how they connect with each other. It was all about the characters. It had social commentary, pop culture commentary, but it was still a comedy first and foremost.

How hard is this for you to understand?

[brob]

In what way is the film better? then again i haven't seen it since i was a teenager

It is the highlight of Oshii's career. Extremely well put together in terms of animation, art style, music, etc. Well paced and suffers from very few of the usual teenage cartoon pitfalls - the only issue I have with it is when there is the scene on the boat where they talk about diving in the sea and the meaning of life which has some trite dialog, though that could be because of the translation. Besides that the story is great, characters are good, action and tension, blahblah, etc.

The tv series is marred by it's silly political intrigue story to me.

[Himu]

I'd say Patlabor is Oshii's career highlight. I also prefer ANgel's Egg to GITS. Though GITS is the most popular, i think they're better.

[Momo]

xxxHolic is a superb supernatural anime, steeped in Japanese lore and very loveable characters
Black Lagoon is an amazing show with great action and superb, complex characters.
Goku Midnight Eye is a good cheesy sci fi 80's film (throw 888 cyber city in here too)
Oh Edo Rocket is a fun little LSD tripped strangely out of time series
Sword of the Stranger is what most popular cinema wishes it could be, great lore, pacing and action
Hajime no Ippo is a fantastic sports series that is both funny and intense