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« Reply #22740 on: June 09, 2012, 11:36:49 PM »
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« Reply #22741 on: June 10, 2012, 12:04:08 AM »
The internet will always be filled with console warriors because being a console warrior is a lot easier when you're a little kid and don't really understand how all this stuff works, and there will always be more little kids to fill the ranks as the old veterans die off. I was like that once. I had other systems [Sony systems, Sega systems, Microsoft systems, PC], but I was always defending Nintendo, trumpeting their successes, glossing over their failures, making rationalizations for their poor console sales and talking up their profits. Maybe it was finally seeing how things went with the Wii that really killed off all desire to keep doing that kind of thing anymore, but I was already beginning to grow out of it regardless, the Wii was just the last straw. See, these companies, all of them, care about just one thing: profits. The followers don't want to believe that, of course, they want to believe their company is different and their company actually cares, but that's not true and never had been. If your favorite company could turn a profit by punching you in the face, they'd do it. Especially in the current market environment. Sure, making great games with tons of effort in them can make money, but not every game that makes money is a great game with a ton of effort in it. Companies make money off terrible games, companies make money off a games that have minimal effort in them. You think Nintendo has integrity that prevents them from using such cheap methods to make a buck? Sadly, some people do. They think their favorite company is as a loyal to them as they are to it. Yeah, good luck with that. Nintendo realized they could make a lot of money, a lot MORE money, by churning out cheap games at high price to people who'd never bought games before. And it's not just Nintendo, of course. Look at what Microsoft is doing right now. Sony fans, how's that Vita treating you? Companies want the money in your wallet and couldn't care less about your loyalty, faithful console warriors.
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« Reply #22742 on: June 10, 2012, 12:04:24 AM »
The internet will always be filled with console warriors because being a console warrior is a lot easier when you're a little kid and don't really understand how all this stuff works, and there will always be more little kids to fill the ranks as the old veterans die off. I was like that once. I had other systems [Sony systems, Sega systems, Microsoft systems, PC], but I was always defending Nintendo, trumpeting their successes, glossing over their failures, making rationalizations for their poor console sales and talking up their profits. Maybe it was finally seeing how things went with the Wii that really killed off all desire to keep doing that kind of thing anymore, but I was already beginning to grow out of it regardless, the Wii was just the last straw. See, these companies, all of them, care about just one thing: profits. The followers don't want to believe that, of course, they want to believe their company is different and their company actually cares, but that's not true and never had been. If your favorite company could turn a profit by punching you in the face, they'd do it. Especially in the current market environment. Sure, making great games with tons of effort in them can make money, but not every game that makes money is a great game with a ton of effort in it. Companies make money off terrible games, companies make money off a games that have minimal effort in them. You think Nintendo has integrity that prevents them from using such cheap methods to make a buck? Sadly, some people do. They think their favorite company is as a loyal to them as they are to it. Yeah, good luck with that. Nintendo realized they could make a lot of money, a lot MORE money, by churning out cheap games at high price to people who'd never bought games before. And it's not just Nintendo, of course. Look at what Microsoft is doing right now. Sony fans, how's that Vita treating you? Companies want the money in your wallet and couldn't care less about your loyalty, faithful console warriors.

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« Reply #22743 on: June 10, 2012, 02:05:54 AM »
good god, the wii u spec thread. why did i ever read it.
The one I linked? That thread is abnormal, it's like they became self aware and ninthings all over are acting out extreme parodies of themselves. I don't remember it ever being that bad.

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« Reply #22744 on: June 10, 2012, 02:13:09 AM »
Sony fans, how's that Vita treating you?

A lot better than how Sony's treating it.

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« Reply #22745 on: June 10, 2012, 02:54:53 AM »
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Sony fans, how's that Vita treating you?

it really is a disaster - thank god the Wii U is in the same spec region so we can get some cheap up-ports tough!

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« Reply #22746 on: June 10, 2012, 02:58:35 AM »
are we talking video games in here?

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« Reply #22747 on: June 10, 2012, 03:48:02 AM »
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'm fine with 720p (NATIVE, not this downsized resolution blown up bullshit) for another five years

and then what? 1080p for Nintendo in 2018? I'm not sure that's a great idea for everyone concerned

One further thing - it's amazing how many people who during the Wii days didn't think the huge graphical disparity mattered yet now the difference between something rendered at 655p scaled to 720p is some sort of horrific alternative to the joyous glory of the new promised land of 720p native....

... though i'm sure the punchline is the spluttered "720p is good enough for me, that's overkill" when the DoWango and Orbist both absolutely smashes WiiU's backdoor in.




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« Reply #22748 on: June 10, 2012, 03:51:10 AM »
Has anyone ever had the prema-ban pardon on GAF?

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« Reply #22749 on: June 10, 2012, 04:15:56 AM »
Yeah, but you gotta have clout. Some permas go away with time.
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« Reply #22751 on: June 10, 2012, 07:29:18 AM »
i doubt i'll ever get un-permed.
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« Reply #22752 on: June 10, 2012, 07:32:43 AM »
i doubt i'll ever get un-permed.
Dont they delete permed accounts after a while? I fully expect my account to be deleted by the end of the year.

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« Reply #22753 on: June 10, 2012, 10:00:09 AM »
I remember years ago that the only way to overturn a permaban is that if you're part of the #ga circle jerk and that the ban wasn't done by EviLore.  Now that apparently these bans get voted on, it probably seems far less likely to be overturned, especially if there is a consensus that other people want you off the board permanently.

Maybe re-register under a different name, keep your head under the radar, and try again.

i doubt i'll ever get un-permed.
Dont they delete permed accounts after a while? I fully expect my account to be deleted by the end of the year.

???  I've never heard of that.  Peruse some of the old NeoGAF threads and you'll see at least half of the names grayed out.
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« Reply #22754 on: June 10, 2012, 10:08:23 AM »
I always felt Nirolak was pretty positive towards Nintendo, seems weird to think he has an agenda against N-Fans.
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« Reply #22755 on: June 10, 2012, 11:10:39 AM »
I always felt Nirolak was pretty positive towards Nintendo, seems weird to think he has an agenda against N-Fans.
Fanboys tend to have persecution complexes, and perceive bias everywhere. I was accused once of having a pro-mobile gaming bias. I've only ever played three mobile games.

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« Reply #22756 on: June 10, 2012, 11:23:45 AM »
yeah, but maybe those three were so good you stopped playing anything else entirely. maybe if you werent such bias for phone-gaming you would know 3DS is a far better device to carry with you everywhere for when you want to kill some time with  a bite-sized piece of gaming goodness.

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« Reply #22757 on: June 10, 2012, 11:35:21 AM »
depends on who perma'd you and why

in your case, rax, it's pretty unlikely, sorry to say.  but feel free to hang around here, we could use another soldier on team weeaboo.
I believe I was banned for calling Kagari's fav rpg series moe crap. I don't know for sure and regardless my reason dosent say that either way. It's ridiculous because shitting FPS threads with the constant dudebro comments and trolling in Square/FF threads is perfectly acceptable.

Either way I guess it is impossible to overturn. I for sure have no pull in being a GAF fav member. But its really only Kagari of the mods who I think disliked me. But if mods vote on this(I had no idea) I guess it dosent really matter.

Either way I guess you just gotta move on.

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« Reply #22758 on: June 10, 2012, 11:49:12 AM »
I always felt Nirolak was pretty positive towards Nintendo, seems weird to think he has an agenda against N-Fans.
The only bigger nfan mod is Eat Children (who is an outright fan) - mmmaybe Stumpokapow.  Nirolak just likes creating discussion threads and Nintendo fanboys are insane distinguished mentally-challenged fellows.
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« Reply #22759 on: June 10, 2012, 11:59:22 AM »
I always felt Nirolak was pretty positive towards Nintendo, seems weird to think he has an agenda against N-Fans.
The only bigger nfan mod is Eat Children (who is an outright fan) - mmmaybe Stumpokapow.  Nirolak just likes creating discussion threads and Nintendo fanboys are insane distinguished mentally-challenged fellows.
Nah, except for EatChildren (who has said he's a nintard) none of the mods have any specific allegiance to Nintendo. Most like stumps and Nirolak enjoy their games but are otherwise indifferent whilst some like Evilore and a couple others downright hate Nintendo although they don't let their feelings on them affect their modding.

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« Reply #22760 on: June 10, 2012, 12:14:27 PM »
Stump and Nirolak aren't 'aligned' with anybody, but they're definitely more Ninfriendly than most, that's all I meant.  One drop rule applies.  Anyway, at this point it's lines in the sand - if you like Nintendo at all these days you have to be something of a fan.
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« Reply #22761 on: June 10, 2012, 01:33:11 PM »
i doubt i'll ever get un-permed.
Dont they delete permed accounts after a while? I fully expect my account to be deleted by the end of the year.

Nope since you could find threads with posts from people like demi in it.

Unless its a new rule that got enforced


Has anyone ever had the prema-ban pardon on GAF?

Yes, Dragona's got overturned on me more than once.  She literally banned me for my opinion, multiple times, and others with some sense of fairness came along and overturned that nonsense.  She was a classy lady and I certainly hope she doesn't die of a ravaging, painful disease.

Now unfortunately, whichever haphazard, arbitrary fuckwit did it this time for vague, bullshit reasons, it seems to have stuck.

apparently there is a vote now for perms and it was done to eliminate shit like what you mentioned earlier in your post.

If you were banned recently then its more likely by vote and you ain't returning.
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« Reply #22762 on: June 10, 2012, 01:39:45 PM »
Page 514, awesome.

Also I could be wrong, I've been on forums that did that so I'm likely mixing them up with GAF

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« Reply #22763 on: June 10, 2012, 01:48:50 PM »
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'm fine with 720p (NATIVE, not this downsized resolution blown up bullshit) for another five years

and then what? 1080p for Nintendo in 2018? I'm not sure that's a great idea for everyone concerned

Oh, it's not. Don't get me wrong. But considering the "HD" twins are supposed to be able to output 1080p but don't (and even 720p native is a stretch) I'd rather take another five years with true HD thank a sub-HD mess. Maybe the 720/PS4 will do 1080p or at least 720p with a sub-1080p resolution upscaled. But I'd rather get "true" HD than pretty graphics that are below that for touting purposes.

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« Reply #22764 on: June 10, 2012, 01:53:06 PM »
Devs disagree. They will always be shooting for as low a res they can get away with to fit more grafikx on screen.

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« Reply #22765 on: June 10, 2012, 02:14:41 PM »
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« Reply #22766 on: June 10, 2012, 02:53:22 PM »
I was playing Infamous 2 yesterday in 720p and no AA and it was gross. I don't want 5-6 more years of that.
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« Reply #22767 on: June 10, 2012, 02:58:00 PM »
No need for AA when you got the Whimsy effect.

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« Reply #22768 on: June 10, 2012, 03:42:38 PM »
Yeah, but you gotta have clout. Some permas go away with time.

That doesn't make sense, if its a perma how or why would it go away?

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« Reply #22769 on: June 10, 2012, 05:56:23 PM »
Yeah, but you gotta have clout. Some permas go away with time.

That doesn't make sense, if its a perma how or why would it go away?
Like with boxing, corruption.

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« Reply #22770 on: June 10, 2012, 06:32:26 PM »
back when i modded at gaf (!!!), we voted on just about every ban. there was a "watch" list for known shit posters, but i doubt anyone in this thread would have disagreed with it.

weirdly enough, i think i banned all of two folks, both of whom were known oa stalker-types. however, i DID vandalize posts on a regular basis...
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« Reply #22771 on: June 10, 2012, 06:48:02 PM »
I was playing Infamous 2 yesterday in 720p and no AA and it was gross. I don't want 5-6 more years of that.

Really? I thought it looked way better than the first. Especially the AA.
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« Reply #22772 on: June 10, 2012, 07:00:57 PM »
back when i modded at gaf (!!!), we voted on just about every ban. there was a "watch" list for known shit posters, but i doubt anyone in this thread would have disagreed with it.

weirdly enough, i think i banned all of two folks, both of whom were known oa stalker-types. however, i DID vandalize posts on a regular basis...

Some of the stalking is still going on. Not gonna say more on that front though. Not my place.

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« Reply #22773 on: June 10, 2012, 08:19:02 PM »
oh, i don't doubt it. oa's a collection of some pretty wounded and/or sociopathic creepers, and they aren't going to stop being creepers any time soon. that said, it's good practice for ANY community to keep them exiled.
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« Reply #22774 on: June 10, 2012, 11:04:42 PM »
Excuse me? What is ao? A forum I guess.

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« Reply #22775 on: June 10, 2012, 11:32:09 PM »
Excuse me? What is ao? A forum I guess.

A wretched hive of scum and villainy.
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« Reply #22776 on: June 10, 2012, 11:33:37 PM »
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« Reply #22777 on: June 11, 2012, 01:04:36 AM »
I was playing Infamous 2 yesterday in 720p and no AA and it was gross. I don't want 5-6 more years of that.

Hardware upgrades would give the AA, obviously.

The issue is these upgrades also force developers make "REAL GUD GRAPHFIX" and so 30FPS and "sub-HD" and no AA for the sake of 30FPS performance is the norm. If we simply got 720p native "next gen"/this coming hardware cycle instead of a push for 1080p we'd be better off in terms of performance. Yeah, graphically it won't look a "generational leap" like the Dreamcast did with Soul Caliber and the like but that's the point: we're not going for pretty graphics. We're going for function.

Excuse me? What is ao? A forum I guess.

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« Reply #22778 on: June 11, 2012, 02:47:22 AM »
It's interesting the way Eggman is slowly turning into blame space. As an influential posting stylist I know all about immitation being sincere flattery, but I just find it fucking annoying.
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« Reply #22779 on: June 11, 2012, 03:07:13 AM »
I was playing Infamous 2 yesterday in 720p and no AA and it was gross. I don't want 5-6 more years of that.

Hardware upgrades would give the AA, obviously.

The issue is these upgrades also force developers make "REAL GUD GRAPHFIX" and so 30FPS and "sub-HD" and no AA for the sake of 30FPS performance is the norm. If we simply got 720p native "next gen"/this coming hardware cycle instead of a push for 1080p we'd be better off in terms of performance. Yeah, graphically it won't look a "generational leap" like the Dreamcast did with Soul Caliber and the like but that's the point: we're not going for pretty graphics. We're going for function.

It's cool though bro. Those "real gud graphix" will run at 60fps, 1080p, with AA on a good PC. Consoles improving means better PC ports, hopefully.
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« Reply #22780 on: June 11, 2012, 03:07:37 AM »
I know everybody hates gaf's viral marketing megathreads, I kind of like Takao's Gravity Rush one.
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« Reply #22781 on: June 11, 2012, 03:25:08 AM »
They all look the same.

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« Reply #22782 on: June 11, 2012, 03:27:06 AM »
I know everybody hates gaf's viral marketing megathreads, I kind of like Takao's Gravity Rush one.

The font is extremely offensive. What were they thinking?
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« Reply #22783 on: June 11, 2012, 03:28:43 AM »
You know I can't stop laughing at the amount of people who want games to be taken seriously then act like petulant children when it comes to various changes the industry would need to make in order for that to ever happen.

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« Reply #22784 on: June 11, 2012, 03:46:11 AM »
Yep, that font is both ugly and difficult to read. The thread itself is quite nice.

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« Reply #22785 on: June 11, 2012, 04:01:09 AM »
Wait a minute - it's by our resident tako-chan?

He sure is quick with the Vita cock loving.

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« Reply #22786 on: June 11, 2012, 04:13:00 AM »
lol good luck in that lesbian thread blame space.

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« Reply #22787 on: June 11, 2012, 04:47:08 AM »
Wait a minute - it's by our resident tako-chan?

He sure is quick with the Vita cock loving.
Maybe he just, yknow, likes a good game?

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« Reply #22788 on: June 11, 2012, 04:49:06 AM »
GET OUTTA HERE

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« Reply #22789 on: June 11, 2012, 04:50:06 AM »
A lot of talented people are behind the game and it has gotten great reviews and impressions.

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Producer: Kumi Yuasa (Shadow of the Colossus)
Designer: Keiichiro Toyama
Artist: Yoshiaki Yamaguchi (Siren)
Writer: Naoko Sato (Silent Hill, Siren, The Last Story)
Composer: Kohei Tanaka (Sakura Taisen, Alundra, Resonance of Fate)

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« Reply #22790 on: June 11, 2012, 04:53:53 AM »
I bought a Vita on launch day. I don't need to know who is behind a game or anything for that matter. Just you know, GIVE ME MORE FUCKING GAMES TO BUY.

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« Reply #22791 on: June 11, 2012, 05:06:44 AM »
How many of the launch games did you pick up?

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« Reply #22792 on: June 11, 2012, 05:09:36 AM »
uncharted and ninja gaiden

along with my uguu psp go digital downloads

all other games are not interesting (read not uguu enough)


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« Reply #22793 on: June 11, 2012, 07:12:08 AM »
Even as XFE there are certain limits as to how much you can swallow - and MS are asking us to swallow at least 8 "Mark Almond's" above the legal milt chugging level

Vita isn't anywhere near that - the tech is good, the games are good, there's just nothing unique on the platform and it's not a sales success so it's very easy for sales obsessed nthings to equate that with the platform quality. Weird... of course they aren't ready for that level of handheld tech because Iwata hasn't sanctioned it yet. We can try again in 10 years time, once it's went through the appropriate profitability meetings and has been rubber stamped by the "oh we aren't a big corporate profit hungry company, we are all about games and FUN .... unlike MS and Sony!" profit councils at Nintendo.

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« Reply #22794 on: June 11, 2012, 07:25:56 AM »

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« Reply #22795 on: June 11, 2012, 07:30:07 AM »
it really is incredible...

1080p would be spoiling the Wii U2 though so i guess i can see that side of things.

Bore question : will Nintendo ever out put at a resolution definition that is larger than the current Earth year?

720 < 2012 .... next gen: 1080 < 2018 ... next next gen : 1440 < 2024....

the race is on - wonder when the streams will cross?


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« Reply #22796 on: June 11, 2012, 07:37:36 AM »
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is that screenshot real? :lol :lol :lol

i don't see what's the big deal anyway... do my 360 game runs in 1080 or 720? are my eyes even good enough to notice the difference?
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« Reply #22798 on: June 11, 2012, 08:20:42 AM »
Whimsy rendering works in reverse to standard graphics. Lower resolution results in higher fidelity whimsys.
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« Reply #22799 on: June 11, 2012, 08:57:02 AM »
So Halo and COD are sub HD as an artistic choice? Is that what I'm hearing?
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