Author Topic: Street Fighter X Tekken: 2013 Update Up (Read 23390 times)

bork · « **Reply #120 on:** September 13, 2011, 11:27:33 PM »

Quote from: iconoclast on September 13, 2011, 11:23:38 PM

Well, at least you have to sacrifice your partner to activate Pandora, so thankfully there's some penalty for it. Still lame though.

The rest looks good.

Himu · « **Reply #121 on:** September 13, 2011, 11:27:39 PM »

he has a plan alright! a dental plan!

iconoclast · « **Reply #122 on:** September 13, 2011, 11:28:31 PM »

Amazing

Beezy · « **Reply #123 on:** September 13, 2011, 11:58:03 PM »

Please have the best netcode of any fighter this gen so far. That's all I ask.

Raban · « **Reply #124 on:** September 14, 2011, 12:09:31 AM »

Quote from: Beezy on September 13, 2011, 11:58:03 PM

Please have the best netcode of any fighter this gen so far. That's all I ask.

Beezy · « **Reply #125 on:** September 14, 2011, 01:46:35 AM »

Quote from: Raban on September 14, 2011, 12:09:31 AM

Quote from: Beezy on September 13, 2011, 11:58:03 PM
Please have the best netcode of any fighter this gen so far. That's all I ask.

Laggy 4 player matches will make me rage

magus · « **Reply #126 on:** September 14, 2011, 05:08:24 AM »

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/09/14/sony-mascots-toro-and-kuro-bring-the-pain-in-new-street-fighter-x-tekken-screens/

best character or bestest character?

bork · « **Reply #127 on:** September 14, 2011, 08:58:21 AM »

Quote from: magus on September 14, 2011, 05:08:24 AM

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/09/14/sony-mascots-toro-and-kuro-bring-the-pain-in-new-street-fighter-x-tekken-screens/

best character or bestest character?

I know my team now!

Robo · « **Reply #128 on:** September 15, 2011, 11:27:28 AM »

Details regarding Pandora mode:

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Press ↓↓MP+MK simultaneously when your vitality gauge is under 25% to activate Pandora. When you activate Pandora, your partner’s strength will increase exponentially.
The power of the character who calls upon Pandora is necessary to fuel the technique. By sacrificing their vitality to Pandora, their partner will be able to enter Pandora mode.
Pandora is a system with a built-in time limit. In Pandora mode, the Cross Gauge will be filled to maximum capacity, and you will be able to use EX and Super Arts infinitely. However, if you are not able to defeat your opponent within the time limit, you will automatically be knocked out. Be careful when you use this technique!

Time limit is apparently 10 game seconds (which probably translates to 13 - 15 actual seconds). Seems like a very short amount of time for something that kills you when it expires, but that steep handicap is giving off some Phoenix vibes (bubububu she has like, no health!).

There's also a Gem system (those little black dots around the super gauge) that has yet to be announced.

Bebpo · « **Reply #129 on:** September 15, 2011, 12:53:53 PM »

Sounds awful.

What prevents spamming supers for chip damage kills.

bork · « **Reply #130 on:** September 15, 2011, 12:58:04 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on September 15, 2011, 12:53:53 PM

Sounds awful.

What prevents spamming supers for chip damage kills.

The 10 second limit and lack of a partner?

I have faith that this won't be broken or MvC3 level fucked up.

Robo · « **Reply #131 on:** September 15, 2011, 01:07:37 PM »

Apparently the damage buff is pretty huge, too. There's a clip on Eventhubs of Zangief piledriving Lili in Pandora mode for ~40%. That's a regular SPD, and he has infinite access to super SPDs? ... Yeah.

Bebpo · « **Reply #132 on:** September 15, 2011, 01:12:25 PM »

I don't really believe Capcom knows how to make fighting games anymore.

bork · « **Reply #133 on:** September 15, 2011, 01:39:46 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on September 15, 2011, 01:12:25 PM

I don't really believe Capcom knows how to make fighting games anymore.

You don't play them anyway.

Bebpo · « **Reply #134 on:** September 15, 2011, 01:49:28 PM »

I do!

...on PS3

bork · « **Reply #135 on:** September 15, 2011, 02:03:58 PM »

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #136 on:** September 15, 2011, 03:06:07 PM »

So with the Pandora system they're allowing everyone to turn into an XF Dark Pheonix, and with scramble and gems they're turning it into smash bros. This game is officially off the handle. It might end up being crazy fun, but they're pumping in too much crazy that brokenness is unavoidable at this point. Tournament potential is decreasing with every system they announce, imo.

It'll still make it of course, but I'm not sure how receptive high level players will be.

Beezy · « **Reply #137 on:** September 15, 2011, 03:40:52 PM »

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7 seconds. You guys can stop your whiny bitching now. This is nowhere near X-factor levels of bad. You better be sure that you know what you're doing if you plan on using this.

Bebpo · « **Reply #138 on:** September 15, 2011, 03:41:56 PM »

Seven seconds is a long time though with overpowered characters.

Quote from: Shah Rukh Khan on September 15, 2011, 03:06:07 PM

So with the Pandora system they're allowing everyone to turn into an XF Dark Pheonix, with scramble and gems they're turning into smash bros. This game is officially off the handle. It might end up being crazy fun, but they're pumping in too much crazy that brokenness is unavoidable at this point. Tournament potential is decreasing with every system they announce, imo.

It'll still make it of course, but I'm not sure how receptive high level players will be.

See that's what I'm saying.

SFIV AE = broken
MvC3 = broken
SF x T = sure looks broken in theory

When did the people at Capcom who wanted to make REAL FIGHTING GAMES get switched with the people who wanted to make casual friendly mainstream fighting games?

Robo · « **Reply #139 on:** September 15, 2011, 03:46:52 PM »

Quote from: Beezy on September 15, 2011, 03:40:52 PM

7 seconds. You guys can stop your whiny bitching now. This is nowhere near X-factor levels of bad. You better be sure that you know what you're doing if you plan on using this.

It being only 7 seconds only makes me more worried if that sort of extreme measure is required to make it balanced. Again, Dark Phoenix vibes.

Himu · « **Reply #140 on:** September 15, 2011, 03:58:36 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on September 15, 2011, 03:41:56 PM

Seven seconds is a long time though with overpowered characters.

learn to block, pussy

Beezy · « **Reply #141 on:** September 15, 2011, 04:10:41 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on September 15, 2011, 03:58:36 PM

Quote from: Bebpo on September 15, 2011, 03:41:56 PM
Seven seconds is a long time though with overpowered characters.

learn to block, pussy

Or fight back. Or run away.

Himu · « **Reply #142 on:** September 15, 2011, 04:14:53 PM »

Honestly, I've never had an issue with XF. I went to gamestop the other month with my cousin. I hadn't played MvC3 in months but I saw teenager playing it. I picked up a controller, picked my team and slaughtered him.

He tried to use XF EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. All I had to do was block and hit him when he was open.

I really like XF, it made EVO really fucking interesting.

Beezy · « **Reply #143 on:** September 15, 2011, 04:18:52 PM »

Nah, X Factor really is ridiculously broken. Play online and you'll find some one who abuses it well in less than 5 matches.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #144 on:** September 15, 2011, 04:19:47 PM »

Im a MvC3 scrub that loses for far more pathetic reasons than some last minute DP X stuff. I think these things are mostly relevant for high level tournament play where someone knows how to capitalize on that 7 second window and be a complete dick about it.

Himu · « **Reply #145 on:** September 15, 2011, 04:20:12 PM »

I didn't play online too much with MvC3 because it always paled to playing with real people

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #146 on:** September 15, 2011, 04:21:26 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on September 15, 2011, 04:20:12 PM

I didn't play online too much with MvC3 because it always paled to playing with real people

We're real people too :*(

Himu · « **Reply #147 on:** September 15, 2011, 04:22:33 PM »

it's probably why i haven't played any fighters in months cuz online just ain't nearly as good as being up close and personal. i miss my fighting game buddies.

iconoclast · « **Reply #148 on:** September 15, 2011, 04:24:52 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on September 15, 2011, 03:41:56 PM

SFIV AE = broken
MvC3 = broken
SF x T = sure looks broken in theory

Super Turbo = broken (horribly unbalanced)
Third Strike = broken (horribly unbalanced)
MvC2 = broken

Himu · « **Reply #149 on:** September 15, 2011, 04:30:37 PM »

Alpha 3 = broken (horribly unbalanced)

If you want to play balanced fighters play Virtua Fighter. Capcom fighters were RARELY ever about total balance.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #150 on:** September 15, 2011, 04:48:10 PM »

MvC2 may be broken, but omg fun

Himu · « **Reply #151 on:** September 15, 2011, 04:51:03 PM »

well, that's kinda the point. being broken means nothing. i'm no tournament player and don't pretend to be.

Beezy · « **Reply #152 on:** September 15, 2011, 04:58:24 PM »

Me either, but X-factor is annoying as hell.

Robo · « **Reply #153 on:** September 15, 2011, 05:06:16 PM »

Balance tends to effect mid-level players the most, really, especially now that all of this stuff is online. It's a factor in tournament-level play, but the results of those matches aren't boiling down to specific character advantages.

The irritation with all of this stems from Capcom being seemingly reluctant to admit that they're putting some pretty fucked up shit in these games. They can't seem to introduce a new system without taking it to the absolute EXTREME. And then, of course, they release a revision to tone it down.

Himu · « **Reply #154 on:** September 15, 2011, 05:08:59 PM »

Quote from: Robo on September 15, 2011, 05:06:16 PM

Balance tends to effect mid-level players the most, really, especially now that all of this stuff is online. It's a factor in tournament-level play, but the results of those matches aren't boiling down to specific character advantages.

The irritation with all of this stems from Capcom being seemingly reluctant to admit that they're putting some pretty fucked up shit in these games. They can't seem to introduce a new system without taking it to the absolute EXTREME. And then, of course, they release a revision to tone it down.

Is it bad that THIS is the part that irks me?

Robo · « **Reply #155 on:** September 15, 2011, 05:15:09 PM »

At this point, it comes off like an exploitative business model, so not really.

bork · « **Reply #156 on:** September 15, 2011, 08:58:44 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on September 15, 2011, 03:41:56 PM

Seven seconds is a long time though with overpowered characters.

Quote from: Shah Rukh Khan on September 15, 2011, 03:06:07 PM
So with the Pandora system they're allowing everyone to turn into an XF Dark Pheonix, with scramble and gems they're turning into smash bros. This game is officially off the handle. It might end up being crazy fun, but they're pumping in too much crazy that brokenness is unavoidable at this point. Tournament potential is decreasing with every system they announce, imo.

It'll still make it of course, but I'm not sure how receptive high level players will be.

See that's what I'm saying.

SFIV AE = broken

Nah. Needs some character balancing, which it is getting. People tend to say this after watching high-level players using Yun or Fei-Long, but if that's what you're going by, then clearly Seth and Viper are also god-tier.

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MvC3 = broken

Yup. It's Marvel all right! Maybe they will get it right with UMvC3.

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SF x T = sure looks broken in theory

Too early to tell. I don't see the people who have already played it whining about stuff, and unlike say, Dark Phoenix in MvC3, you're not able to get your health back and have all of 10 seconds to beat one or two characters.

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When did the people at Capcom who wanted to make REAL FIGHTING GAMES get switched with the people who wanted to make casual friendly mainstream fighting games?

None of these games are "casual friendly mainstream fighting games." When I think that, I think UFC or Smash or something.

Robo · « **Reply #157 on:** September 15, 2011, 09:29:35 PM »

For all its flaws, SSF4 (and yes, even AE) is the single most balanced fighting game Capcom has ever produced, and one of the most balanced in the 2D fighting genre, period. The game is most certainly not broken.

I wouldn't say MvC3 is broken, per se, either, it's just that the X-factor system puts too much emphasis on the last character and doesn't even require much effort from someone to blow up an entire team. Dark Phoenix in level 3 X-factor is really fucked up, but the strategy still amounts to quite a lot of risk; she can be snapped in at any time and can't leave for a few seconds, during which time she can be mixed-up and will die on a touch without even using any meter to do so. Best Friends (Wolverine + Akuma) is just really, really good.

I run Best Friends, though, so you know...

Himu · « **Reply #158 on:** September 15, 2011, 09:46:56 PM »

How is mvc3 broken if every character is broken?

Robo · « **Reply #159 on:** September 15, 2011, 09:49:22 PM »

The only REAL broken character in MvC3 is Phoenix in Dark Phoenix form. The rest of the cast is broken to a degree that it balances out, by and large.

Enl · « **Reply #160 on:** September 15, 2011, 09:56:16 PM »

Don't see anything wrong with Pandora at the moment. It lasts only 10 seconds, you sacrifice your partner, and if you fail to beat your opponent in that time frame then you lose. It's much more risky than using X-Factor.

originalz · « **Reply #161 on:** September 15, 2011, 10:23:36 PM »

Kind of reminds me of the instakill from Guilty Gear.

In some SNK fighters you can spam super moves once your health gets below a certain level, but it's not a good strategy as it usually leaves you open for a counterattack. It's more useful as a psych technique than anything else.

bork · « **Reply #162 on:** November 18, 2011, 09:54:25 AM »

Alt costumes revealed, plus HOLY SHIT COLOR EDIT. Pretty bizarre. Kuma's is the ultimate Ono troll.

Robo · « **Reply #163 on:** November 18, 2011, 10:23:09 AM »

Dear God are those things hideous.

bork · « **Reply #164 on:** November 18, 2011, 10:39:34 AM »

Quote from: Robo on November 18, 2011, 10:23:09 AM

Dear God are those things hideous.

Yeah.

Glad there's color edit and it's not DLC.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #165 on:** November 18, 2011, 10:46:13 AM »

The idea of swapping costumes is so awful, or awfully executed.

Enl · « **Reply #166 on:** November 18, 2011, 01:17:24 PM »

Got a bit of a laugh when I saw Zangief's. Also what's with all the bitching about gems? I thought they were optional.

brob · « **Reply #167 on:** November 18, 2011, 01:23:14 PM »

Rainbow Kuma is worth money. the rest I don't care much for.

bork · « **Reply #168 on:** November 18, 2011, 01:30:26 PM »

Quote from: Enl on November 18, 2011, 01:17:24 PM

Got a bit of a laugh when I saw Zangief's. Also what's with all the bitching about gems? I thought they were optional.

Apparently there's no modes of play without gems, which I think is pretty stupid if true. People are worried this will fuck up the tourney scene and competitive play, but...why? Just ban the use of gems at tournaments.

bork · « **Reply #169 on:** November 18, 2011, 01:35:57 PM »

This needs to be made into a "Deal with it" GIF.

There's also a rumor that all of these alternate outfits will be usable by ANY character in the game. Will believe that when I see it.

brob · « **Reply #170 on:** November 18, 2011, 01:39:09 PM »

If that's the case I'll buy this game just so I can play as Rainbow Kazuya - regardless of the quality of the game.

chronovore · « **Reply #171 on:** November 18, 2011, 06:15:03 PM »

Quote from: Robo on November 18, 2011, 10:23:09 AM

Dear God are those things hideous.

Yeah, that was my reaction, too.

Bebpo · « **Reply #172 on:** November 18, 2011, 07:30:11 PM »

This game looks ugh. Though I'm not the target audience since Tekken is very ugh to me.

Should've just done Capcom vs Snk 3

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #173 on:** November 18, 2011, 07:32:56 PM »

I feel like I'm in the minority here but I am more interested in Tekken X SF

brob · « **Reply #174 on:** November 18, 2011, 07:51:10 PM »

tekken x sf has potential to be cool. I'm kinda casual about my tekkening, but I like their aesthetic and they seem big on jugglin' which can be real fun. What I'm more tepid on with tekken though, is how movement and position is handled - usually it feels like both me and my opponent is jerking back and forth fishing for a whiff punish, but it feels much more obnoxious than SF even though that happens there too. idk, maybe I'm just a hater getting my hate on cus it's different.

iconoclast · « **Reply #175 on:** November 18, 2011, 07:58:15 PM »

I think some of those costumes are pretty good. I like: Nina, Julia, Rufus, Dhalsim, Steve, Hugo, Poison, Yoshimitsu, Ibuki, Zangief, Lili. Don't really care for the rest, and I probably won't buy any of them anyway.

Color edit is nice.

bork · « **Reply #176 on:** December 22, 2011, 01:08:38 PM »

New trailer. It's the wimmenz.

Owl-faced Wizard · « **Reply #177 on:** December 22, 2011, 04:24:56 PM »

Lili is my type. Shame she's a Tekken character.

bork · « **Reply #178 on:** January 18, 2012, 08:11:18 AM »

Paul, Xiaoyu, Law, Vega, Juri, and Balrog officially revealed:

Screens:
http://www.capcom-europe.com/blog/2012/01/street-fighter-x-tekken-new-character-explosion/

Gameplay trailer:

CG trailer:

The Vita version is getting more extras...looked like Pac-Man and either Frank West as Mega Man or "Bad Box Art" Mega Man are gonna be in.

Robo · « **Reply #179 on:** January 18, 2012, 12:37:19 PM »

The only thoughts I can muster toward this game anymore are along the lines of, "I wonder if I'll ever be bored and inebriated enough to buy this on a whim."

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Author Topic: Street Fighter X Tekken: 2013 Update Up (Read 23390 times)