PSN Back up in NA, Europe. Still down in Japan/Asian regions

[Herr Mafflard]

first they giveth, then they taketh away

[pilonv1]

Sfags bought the details and are targeting the xbots first

[maxy]

Interesting article

http://www.simplynetworking.es/news-3868-31-credit_card_scam_alert.html

[The Sceneman]

hahahahahaha: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27471150&postcount=7827

LBP avatar, of course

[naff]

  I find that logic pretty sound tbh

[Great Rumbler]

Wait for - Little Big Planet Metal Gear Solid 4 Gran Turismo 5 Uncharted 2 Better network security

[Sho Nuff]

[Great Rumbler]

"Stem-cell research"

[maxy]

That pics needs Methodis pushing the dam



Media is having fun

Opinion: PlayStation Brand Faces Uncertain Future

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/34348/

at least sdf will be busy


From us playstation blog

Keep in mind, however that your credit card security code (sometimes called a CVC or CSC number) has not been obtained because we never requested it from anyone who has joined the PlayStation Network or Qriocity, and is therefore not stored anywhere in our system. UPDATE: While we do ask for CCV codes, we do not store them in our database.

nice edit/update

[Mr. Gundam]

So glad you didn't store the CCVs, that makes it all the better how you didn't encrypt the rest of our information. 

[Himu]

but some sources say they have ccvs...

[maxy]

This thing is a real goldmine for quotes

Just Add Water boss Stewart Gilray(Gravity Crash) says this

"I have to say, the press yesterday ripped Sony a new one wider than the Channel Tunnel," Gilray told Eurogamer at the GameCityNights event in Nottingham last night.

"Yes, it's up to 77 million PSN IDs, or 35 million master accounts – the rest are sub accounts. It's bad. But to look at it laterally, you're now one of 35 million people who could get their details leaked out and used by somebody else.

"But when you look at things like Play.com for example, which had 1.4 million details ripped last year, you're one in 1.4 million. There's a much higher chance of your stuff being used from Play than there is of your stuff being used from the PlayStation hack. "

Seems right,the more they steal the better.

[Stoney Mason]

Yeah I'm not sure why people say such dumb things...


The proper attitude to have is yeah it was a big fuck up. We completely screwed up. We will make this up to you and guarantee that nothing like this will ever happen again because we let you down this time.

I know that guy isn't Sony proper but all you do is piss off people when you make dumb statements like that and make them even more anti-sony. You fall on the sword. You don't make bizarre justifications.

[Mr. Gundam]

but some sources say they have ccvs...

Sarcasm.

[Great Rumbler]

This thing is a real goldmine for quotes

Just Add Water boss Stewart Gilray(Gravity Crash) says this

"I have to say, the press yesterday ripped Sony a new one wider than the Channel Tunnel," Gilray told Eurogamer at the GameCityNights event in Nottingham last night.

"Yes, it's up to 77 million PSN IDs, or 35 million master accounts – the rest are sub accounts. It's bad. But to look at it laterally, you're now one of 35 million people who could get their details leaked out and used by somebody else.

"But when you look at things like Play.com for example, which had 1.4 million details ripped last year, you're one in 1.4 million. There's a much higher chance of your stuff being used from Play than there is of your stuff being used from the PlayStation hack. "

Seems right,the more they steal the better.

What an absolutely ridiculous thing for him to say.

[maxy]

He sounds bit like a PR though

"I'm not saying it's good. It's bad. But I don't think half the criticism they've got has been deserved. They have gone about it the right way."

On the other hand some devs have other ideas

Due to the recent events concerning the account leak on the PlayStation Network  we are wondering how to continue in the case of Rush Rush Rally Racing for PlayStation minis, which would run on both PlayStation3 and PlayStation Portable.

Rush Rush Rally Racing for PlayStation minis is currently in development and scheduled for 2011, yet it's your decision now if you still want to see this title on the PlayStation Network or if the title should be canceled due to the lost confidence in this service and platform.

You can fill the survey here
http://www.redspotgames.com/survey/index.php?sid=78767

 

[AdmiralViscen]

I dunno guys, I feel better already

[Herr Mafflard]

yeah the damage control is hilarious. The harder they try to defend it, the madder they look.

what's even better is the sony apologists regurgitating the same PR drivel

which is business as usual for the brand loyalists at GAF,  but this is that cycle of internet tomfoolery on a somewhat grander scale

[Dickie Dee]

"I have to say, the press yesterday ripped Sony a new one wider than the Channel Tunnel," Gilray told Eurogamer at the GameCityNights event in Nottingham last night.

"Yes, it's up to 77 million PSN IDs, or 35 million master accounts – the rest are sub accounts. It's bad. But to look at it laterally, you're now one of 35 million people who could get their details leaked out and used by somebody else.

"But when you look at things like Play.com for example, which had 1.4 million details ripped last year, you're one in 1.4 million. There's a much higher chance of your stuff being used from Play than there is of your stuff being used from the PlayStation hack. "

.

[Joe Molotov]

wtf...I can't even....did he just...no he didn't....he couldn't....oh wait, he did!    

Oh well, I guess PSN devs have to tote the company line, because people not putting their CC#'s back on PSN, means you don't get to eat. At least he has a financial stake in it, unlike distinguished mentally-challenged gaffers and Methodis.

[Bebpo]

SDF have taken it to a whole new level.

The PS3 has been an absolute curse on Sony and their fans and this could well end them. Which is a shame as there'll only be one Japanese substandard console to laugh at next gen rather than two

As much as this is a giant fuckup, I'm siding with the SDF saying in a month from when PSN goes back up no one will care anymore and in 3 months the same people will be buying off PSN again and when PS4 comes out the same people who buy PS systems will buy that as well.

This was really bad and Sony handled it terribly, but the sky is not falling.

[Himu]

except politicians are demanding answers. it won't end quietly and no one will "forget".

[Great Rumbler]

except politicians are demanding answers. it won't end quietly and no one will "forget".

Class-action lawsuit has just been filed as well. Yeah, this isn't just going to "go away".

[Himu]

People saying "well, it's free!" are dumb. itunes is free and has yet to be hacked on this wide a scale. Steam is free and our cc's and personal info are safe.

Crock of shit, this is not xbl being down christmas 07 when CoD4 and Halo 3 came out that fall and everyone was playing them when I was trying to get through fucking Blue Dragon. That's server overload, and MS got that fixed after like a day or two even immediately reporting wtf was going on.

This is  a wide scale hack with user's personal information compromised. Anyone trying to convince themselves that this will just go away are kidding themselves.

[Great Rumbler]

Oh, and there's actually TWO class-action lawsuits against Sony, by the way.

[Himu]

Jesus Christ.

The most pressing thing about this shit is that Sony KNEW their security wasn't all that great. This was obvious and Hotz even showed this to them and found ways they could crack down on their security.

They knew this shit for months and still did nothing.

That is what gets me. It took this hack for Sony to actually do something. Really?

[Great Rumbler]

http://www.zeropaid.com/news/93274/psn-outage-day-8-governments-get-involved-over-data-breach-fears/

http://www.zeropaid.com/news/93292/psn-outage-day-9-sony-threatened-with-fines-as-world-govt-involvement-increases/

http://www.zeropaid.com/news/93295/psn-outage-day-9-5-sony-hit-with-second-class-action-lawsuit/

[MyNameIsMethodis]

i love how all the xbots are the only ones talking in here about how its the end of the world for sony when no one really gives a shit and there still has yet to be a valid claim of someone losing their cc info 

[Bebpo]

The truth is always somewhere in the middle

[Great Rumbler]

In Methodis's world, "xbots" = "US government, Canadian government, Chinese government, UK government, Australian government, and everyone involved in two class-action lawsuits"

[Barry Egan]

God this is so great.

[Van Cruncheon]

"a sufficiently desperate troll is indistiguishable from an actual idiot fanboy"

[pilonv1]

[Eel O'Brian]

perhaps the ps4 will come with a cash slot like drink and snack vending machines, and once a month a sony rep will come around and collect when the till is full

[Eel O'Brian]

wait, that was just silly, let's be realistic

once every couple of years

[The Sceneman]

old

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Sfags like Bebpo definitely and desperately wish that once PSN goes up, everyone will cry in joy that it is up, and then everyone will forget this security breach almost right away.

Sfags will be sfags and they will try their hardest to downplay this massive fuckup once PSN is restored.  Even as the fines and class action lawsuit legal fees pile up to amounts that can't be ignored by the media, rational people, and more importantly, stockholders.  True to the Sony nature, I wonder if the new security will even be as good as what it was before the hack.

[maxy]

This will be very hard to sweep under the rug unlike MS RROD fiasco.ROOD was "just" another shitty kids toy breaking like shit,nothing to lose sleep over.Throw it into garbage and forget about it.

Personal data,CC details compromised,stolen?
That is serious business,people don't look kindly at that stuff and that is not something that you can throw out of the window and forget about it.

Politics will be very influential too.This is something that can potentially influence peoples credit ratings or make them spend less(not just on toys)...less money for governments=bad thing
There is also the need to punish someone as an example,confidential data is leaking everywhere.

If(when) PSN goes down again people will immediately blame hackers,criminals,data theft,etc no matter what the real reason is.Not fair,but that's life.


http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/30/us-sony-idUSTRE73R0Q320110430

Hirai, in line to succeed CEO Howard Stringer, will hold a news conference in Tokyo at 2:00 p.m. (1 a.m. EDT) on Sony's investigation of the case, its information management system and the schedule to resume services, the firm said in a news release on Saturday.

I just wonder who will get the boot,someone will...at least silently in few months

Stinger is stepping down anyway,but who knows

[pilonv1]

I didn't know it was old

[Himu]

kaz hirai as CEO of Sony? not sure if want...

He'll likely be better than stringer, though.

[Diunx]

lol people will stop giving a shit about this as soon as cod is back online, forum dwellers might be another thing but who cares about them?

[maxy]

kaz hirai as CEO of Sony? not sure if want...

He'll likely be better than stringer, though.

Ken>>>>>>>>>>>Kaz



Hmm,we need a bigger boat

A new survey has found that one-fifth of PlayStation 3 owners in the U.S. are considering a switch to the Xbox 360 in the wake of the Great PlayStation Network Security Breach.

Someday, the news will stop being bad for Sony. That day is not today, however. This probably won't come as much of a surprise to anyone with even a passing familiarity with the still-ongoing PSN train wreck but it turns out that a significant number of PS3 owners are giving thought to crossing the aisle to sit with the other side.

Commissioned by CouponCodes4U "in order to assess gamer attitudes towards the affair," the survey encompassed 2132 people across the U.S., finding that 41 percent of them own PlayStation 3 consoles. 89 percent of those PS3 owners said they were concerned that their personal data may have been stolen in the breach; 65 percent said their trust in Sony and PSN had been "greatly affected"; and 21 percent claimed they were considering selling their PS3 units and switching to Microsoft's Xbox 360.

"As a video gamer myself, this data theft is especially worrying and I'm not altogether surprised that Sony are likely to see an exodus to console competitors," said CouponCodes4U Chairman Mark Pearson. "As hackers get more and more intelligent, companies simply have to keep up. Sony has a responsibility to its millions of customers to protect personal details and this data theft proves that they weren't capable of doing so. It's clear that gamers across the country have decided that this failing is enough to switch their allegiances to the console's closest rival."

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/109646-One-Fifth-of-PS3-Owners-Are-Eyeing-the-Exit

That article has like 500 comments
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[Himu]

Ken > Kaz no doubt

Ken was a visionary but still, wasn't his vision the reason ps3 was 600 bucks?

[Shaka Khan]

Sfags like Bebpo

How desperate are we to fill that position now that Methodis broke character? lol.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

There was nothing about the PS3 that could be considered visionary, unless you're talking about creating crippling debts, unnecessarily complicated hardware that produced inferior software to your cheaper competitor, slowly stripping away hardware features (which was already compromised to begin with) with software updates, and now massive security breaches: one that completely cracked open major disc media and one that caused tens of millions of people's identities to be compromised.

If that is the new definition, then yeah, I agree, Ken Kutaragi is a visionary.

Let's be honest, if the system said anything other than "Sony PlayStation" on the box, the system would have died in 2008.

[Shaka Khan]

I think it's obvious that he was considered a visionary by many people, up until he designed the PS3.

[Himu]

Ken was a visionary. His legacy has been stained by the ps3, but as the grand pappy of the psx, ps2 and psp I don't see how you can argue he wasn't

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

In the way people considered Ken Lay or Lloyd Blankfein to be visionaries, sure.

[Sho Nuff]

My favorite part was that Kutaragi would spend billions building his own crazy chips (EE+GS, CELL) instead of using off-the-shelf technology, because everyone would want to use them in hollywood and outside the game industry.

"Mr. Kutaragi tried to interest Mr. Jobs in adopting the Cell chip, which is being developed by I.B.M. for use in the coming PlayStation 3, in exchange for access to certain Sony technologies. Mr. Jobs rejected the idea, telling Mr. Kutaragi that he was disappointed with the Cell design, which he believes will be even less effective than the PowerPC." <-- CLASSIC KUTARAGI

[Shaka Khan]

[Stoney Mason]

Sony's importance to the game industry was never especially a technological one at least the way fanboys will portray it. What Sony did was give a mainstream legitimacy to gaming at a time when the dominant players were Nintendo & Sega and videogames were viewed as strictly a child's hobby. It gave regular people more confidence in the product when they saw SONY on the label. That's why at the time Sony entering and dominating the videogame scene was important particularily from a cultural perspective.

The fact that they had deeper pockets than their competitors at the time also helped along with embracing CD/DVD gaming and entertainment while their compeititors stuck with cartridges or other weird disc based formats.

 

[Himu]

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/04/29/house-of-representatives-letter-questions-sony-over-attack/?ref=technology

holy fuck, congress is asking sony questions

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Sony's importance to the game industry was never especially a technological one at least the way fanboys will portray it. What Sony did was give a mainstream legitimacy to gaming at a time when the dominant players were Nintendo & Sega and videogames were viewed as strictly a child's hobby. It gave regular people more confidence in the product when they saw SONY on the label. That's why at the time Sony entering and dominating the videogame scene was important particularily from a cultural perspective.

The fact that they had deeper pockets than their competitors at the time also helped along with embracing CD/DVD gaming and entertainment while their compeititors stuck with cartridges or other weird disc based formats.

 

The PlayStation was also an easier to work with platform than the competition and generally stepped back to let third parties flourish vs. Nintendo's hostile attitude.  The PlayStation visionary genius was more marketing than technology.  If I recall, the PS2 was supposedly a nightmare to work for initially.  The idea of PlayStation being synonymous with tech wizardry is essentially BS.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

they asked microsoft questions about rood i dont see the xbot army rememberthing that  

[Himu]

I'm just going to steal this post from SA: You know what isn't similar to an entire game system network's infrastructure being hacked resulting in millions of users' personal data being compromised? Mass system failure due to overheating.

Shut up already.

[Joe Molotov]

they asked microsoft questions about rood i dont see the xbot army rememberthing that  

[Himu]

Kutaragi was completely up his ass crazy, but every industry needs people like that.  The key with those people is that you have someone above them that can tell them "no buddy, that's too nuts".  Ken didn't have anyone like that anymore.

see: george lucas

[Wario64]

3 1/2 hours until kaz announces his resignment 

[Himu]

wario64 that "when will psn be back up" bet idea on gaf is genius. gg

[Great Rumbler]

http://www.zeropaid.com/news/93298/psn-outage-day-10-fbi-congress-and-22-state-attorneys-general-get-involved/

Meanwhile attorneys general from 22 states are demanding answers from Sony over the breach, asking why it took the company so long to alert customers to the attack.

That group of state attorneys general are sharing information with one another about their individual inquiries, Susan Kinsman, communications director for the Connecticut Office of the Attorney General told Kotaku.

The collection of attorneys general have also contacted the Federal Trade Commission to see if they have launched their own federal investigation, she said.