Author Topic: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread (Read 368437 times)

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #600 on:** March 23, 2012, 12:57:09 AM »

i played the dynasty warriors next demo on vita tonight, it wasn't bad! i was impressed with the sheer number of people they crammed on the screen. i had no idea what i was doing, since i'd never played a dw game before, but i still had a good time with it. i might pick it up if i can snag it on sale later on.

Bebpo · « **Reply #601 on:** March 23, 2012, 02:49:02 AM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on March 23, 2012, 12:52:23 AM

Does Sima Zhao still have his rockin' ex? he and his lady wang yuanji are my favorites in dw7

jin fo lyfe

I dunno, but I was riding people like surfboards Dante style and kicking giant Gundam balls and it was badass.

Plus he has the same voice actor as Noel from XIII-2.

Himu · « **Reply #602 on:** March 23, 2012, 05:42:36 AM »

That's his ex

bork · « **Reply #603 on:** March 23, 2012, 08:36:58 AM »

Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on March 23, 2012, 12:57:09 AM

i played the dynasty warriors next demo on vita tonight, it wasn't bad! i was impressed with the sheer number of people they crammed on the screen. i had no idea what i was doing, since i'd never played a dw game before, but i still had a good time with it. i might pick it up if i can snag it on sale later on.

It's good stuff...they also released an update that displays more enemies on-screen for the J-version. I don't know if this was already-available for the U.S. release/demo.

Bebpo · « **Reply #604 on:** March 23, 2012, 01:38:20 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on March 23, 2012, 05:42:36 AM

That's his ex

I don't understand in this context.

I thought you meant "ex" as in "his ex-wife" who is a different character.

But now it sounds like "ex" as in "EX version of a character with a different moveset"

I don't play these DW games featuring of China, so I'll need some help here.

Himu · « **Reply #605 on:** March 23, 2012, 01:39:26 PM »

That's his ex move.

Bebpo · « **Reply #606 on:** March 23, 2012, 01:41:00 PM »

What is an EX move in DW?

I only play Gundam Musou.

Himu · « **Reply #607 on:** March 23, 2012, 01:45:19 PM »

In DW7, an Ex Attack is a move you can only use if you have your ex weapon equipped. Sima Zhao's weapon is the regular sword, so with that weapon you can use his EX which is a unique command.

Bebpo · « **Reply #608 on:** March 23, 2012, 01:47:54 PM »

Ah, so I'm guessing the DW7 characters in WO3 all have their EX weapon equipped, which makes sense.

Game seems HOT. So many characters, so many moves, fast combo-flowing combat; great stuff.

Himu · « **Reply #609 on:** March 23, 2012, 01:48:17 PM »

JIN KINGDOM

BOW THE FUCK DOWN

Himu · « **Reply #610 on:** March 23, 2012, 01:50:28 PM »

Wait, do characters still only have one musou like in WO2 or do characters have multiple musous like in DW7/DWG3?

Bebpo · « **Reply #611 on:** March 23, 2012, 01:52:01 PM »

Can't answer that since I haven't leveled anyone yet. They start with 1 musou.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #612 on:** March 23, 2012, 09:15:27 PM »

2 hours later and WO3 is still only at 65% completion. Yet I was able to download Saints Row 3 from Steam in less than an hour.

Fuckin' Sony, I tell ya.

Trent Dole · « **Reply #613 on:** March 23, 2012, 10:54:47 PM »

but it's totally better cause it's free!

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #614 on:** March 23, 2012, 11:16:56 PM »

4 hours...77% complete!!!

Fuck Sony. I wanted to spend a couple of hours playing this game tonight.

Next time someone asks why a digital distribution only console is a bad idea, here's some proof, fuckers.

Himu · « **Reply #615 on:** March 23, 2012, 11:25:09 PM »

Either that or sony's network suck balls.

Trent Dole · « **Reply #616 on:** March 24, 2012, 12:32:53 AM »

Honestly it's a bit of both in this case.

Himu · « **Reply #617 on:** March 24, 2012, 12:48:01 AM »

He dled sr3 in an hour so no it isn't

Bebpo · « **Reply #618 on:** March 24, 2012, 12:55:23 AM »

I get ok speeds from Sony. Not great, but I started WO3 download and went to work, came back 8 or 9 hours later and it was done and installed.

magus · « **Reply #619 on:** March 24, 2012, 07:22:24 AM »

i tought dynasty warriors 7 was just an okay game but maybe i'm going to get WO3 just to join you guys

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #620 on:** March 24, 2012, 01:53:56 PM »

I played WO3 for a couple of hours this morning and wow!

This is probably the most epic in scope Musou game I've played yet. I've only went through the first two levels but it is a very impressive game.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #621 on:** March 24, 2012, 01:55:21 PM »

The shifting maze level a little later on is awesome- whole level layout changes as you fight through it.

MoxManiac · « **Reply #622 on:** March 24, 2012, 02:02:20 PM »

Still waiting for my 360 copy to ship since i wanted a physical disc :'(

Bebpo · « **Reply #623 on:** March 25, 2012, 02:13:36 AM »

Didn't realize it was game over if a single character dies on your team

Dude who attacks with a paintbrush is rad though.

Himu · « **Reply #624 on:** March 27, 2012, 05:00:24 PM »

Dammit, gamestop said Warriors Orochi 3 has been delayed AGAIN?

Bebpo · « **Reply #625 on:** March 27, 2012, 05:12:56 PM »

You could get it on ps3

spoiler (click to show/hide)

but then you'd have to turn your ps3 on

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Himu · « **Reply #626 on:** March 27, 2012, 05:20:51 PM »

Fuck, I can't wait to play Orochi 3. Fucking people stealing my copy of Orochi 2. Leveling up characters in Orochi is by far the funnest in any Musou I've played.

bork · « **Reply #627 on:** March 27, 2012, 05:34:26 PM »

If anyone wants the English version on disc for PS3, NCSX is going to stock the Euro version for $69.

Quote from: Stringer Bell on March 27, 2012, 05:20:51 PM

Fuck, I can't wait to play Orochi 3. Fucking people stealing my copy of Orochi 2. Leveling up characters in Orochi is by far the funnest in any Musou I've played.

Get it on PS3 dude...it's better on there anyway, plus no worries of lack of DLC support.

Himu · « **Reply #628 on:** March 27, 2012, 05:38:30 PM »

How is it better on ps3 and what is this about lack of worry for dlc support? You talking about the DW7XL situation? Because 360 has all the dlc, but no XL.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #629 on:** March 27, 2012, 07:55:41 PM »

orochi 3 is fuck amazing and better than the entire 3ds catalog combined

Trent Dole · « **Reply #630 on:** March 27, 2012, 08:04:34 PM »

Quote from: Van Cruncheon on March 27, 2012, 07:55:41 PM

orochi 3 is fuck amazing and better than the entire 3ds catalog combined

Himu and I are both tragically stuck waiting until at least tomorrow when it'll hopefully show up in stores.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #631 on:** March 27, 2012, 08:17:42 PM »

This game continues to be fucking awesome.

It might end up being my favorite Musou of all time, supplanting Dynasty Warriors 5.

Himu · « **Reply #632 on:** March 28, 2012, 10:28:21 AM »

Godammit lyte edge how is it better on ps3 you bastard! I'm torn between just getting it on ps3 and waiting it out to see if I can pick it up today

MoxManiac · « **Reply #633 on:** March 28, 2012, 10:41:21 AM »

Quote from: lyte edge on March 27, 2012, 05:34:26 PM

If anyone wants the English version on disc for PS3, NCSX is going to stock the Euro version for $69.

Quote from: Stringer Bell on March 27, 2012, 05:20:51 PM
Fuck, I can't wait to play Orochi 3. Fucking people stealing my copy of Orochi 2. Leveling up characters in Orochi is by far the funnest in any Musou I've played.

Get it on PS3 dude...it's better on there anyway, plus no worries of lack of DLC support.

Isn't the game the same on both? And the DLC doesn't make sense, the DLC is/will be for both platforms.

Himu · « **Reply #634 on:** March 28, 2012, 11:11:31 AM »

Seriously, you don't make posts like that without evidence backing your claim. People are DYING HERE. And he teases us with information that makes no sense when we just want to play Orochi 3.

bork · « **Reply #635 on:** March 28, 2012, 03:40:09 PM »

Aw Goddammit, my bad guys...this was a DW7 comparison that somebody mentioned elsewhere...in a WO3 thread...not for WO3 itself.

Blame GAF. :p

Quote from: MoxManiac on March 28, 2012, 10:41:21 AM

Isn't the game the same on both? And the DLC doesn't make sense, the DLC is/will be for both platforms.

See: DW7 XL.

Himu · « **Reply #636 on:** March 28, 2012, 03:43:44 PM »

XL was not dlc but an expansion. I doubt Orochi 3 will have a big major expansion though I could be wrong.

In any case, I picked up the game during lunch.

bork · « **Reply #637 on:** March 28, 2012, 04:16:41 PM »

Himu, going by previous 360 Koei releases, XL should have been DLC.

After what happened with DW7 XL I am sticking with Koei games on PS3. They didn't even release One Piece on 360.

Himu · « **Reply #638 on:** March 28, 2012, 05:09:19 PM »

Any suggestions on how to handle weapons in this iteration? I got a lot of loot from the first battle, including a sword for Zhao with some skills attached. Afterwards, I went to camp and saw the weapon dealer.

I noticed a lot of the weapons had skills attached. How does the skill system work in this game? Do you learn them like in DW7/DGW3 or is it just like in WO2? Should I keep using the same weapon for a bit and grind it out or should I try to experiment with as many weapons with skills allotted as possible?

bork · « **Reply #639 on:** March 28, 2012, 05:45:24 PM »

It's like WO2.

Himu · « **Reply #640 on:** March 28, 2012, 06:47:55 PM »

Thanks.

Holy fuck balls this game is amazing. It's like the best of WO2 married with what they learned in DW7. Amazing.

bork · « **Reply #641 on:** March 28, 2012, 06:54:57 PM »

Just pulled a Bebpo and bought the 360 version. LEZ DO SOME CO-OP

Himu · « **Reply #642 on:** March 28, 2012, 07:32:41 PM »

I only have Silver for the time being.

MoxManiac · « **Reply #643 on:** March 28, 2012, 08:02:24 PM »

Quote from: lyte edge on March 28, 2012, 03:40:09 PM

Aw Goddammit, my bad guys...this was a DW7 comparison that somebody mentioned elsewhere...in a WO3 thread...not for WO3 itself. Blame GAF. :p

Quote from: MoxManiac on March 28, 2012, 10:41:21 AM

Isn't the game the same on both? And the DLC doesn't make sense, the DLC is/will be for both platforms.

See: DW7 XL.

1. There is not going to be a WO3 XL.

2. The reason there is no DW7 XL on 360 is because there was no DW7 on 360 in Japan. There is a WO3 on 360 in Japan. Therefore, logic suggests that support for the game will be at parity on both systems, and if there is a WO3 XL, both platforms will get it.

Since I have defeated your arguement lyte, as penance you must play WO3 with me when I receive the 360 version next week

bork · « **Reply #644 on:** March 28, 2012, 09:09:16 PM »

Quote from: MoxManiac on March 28, 2012, 08:02:24 PM

Quote from: lyte edge on March 28, 2012, 03:40:09 PM
Aw Goddammit, my bad guys...this was a DW7 comparison that somebody mentioned elsewhere...in a WO3 thread...not for WO3 itself. Blame GAF. :p

Quote from: MoxManiac on March 28, 2012, 10:41:21 AM

Isn't the game the same on both? And the DLC doesn't make sense, the DLC is/will be for both platforms.

See: DW7 XL.

1. There is not going to be a WO3 XL.

2. The reason there is no DW7 XL on 360 is because there was no DW7 on 360 in Japan. There is a WO3 on 360 in Japan. Therefore, logic suggests that support for the game will be at parity on both systems, and if there is a WO3 XL, both platforms will get it.

Since I have defeated your arguement lyte, as penance you must play WO3 with me when I receive the 360 version next week

Nah dude, doesn't work...it wouldn't have been difficult for them to make XL for 360. Not to mention that SW2 XL was DDL only in the States but a disc release in Japan. They've done it before.

Anyway, the 360 version looks pretty much the same as PS3, but the CG quality is worse. That's about all that I can tell.

Also no DLC is available. Japan has outfit packs (some are free!), stages, music, etc.

Bebpo · « **Reply #645 on:** March 28, 2012, 09:12:26 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on March 28, 2012, 07:32:41 PM

I only have Silver for the time being.

This just keeps getting stranger.

bork · « **Reply #646 on:** March 28, 2012, 09:20:55 PM »

Who knows with Himu.

Himu · « **Reply #647 on:** March 28, 2012, 10:00:40 PM »

I don't see why I need online to enjoy this game. Don't be distinguished mentally-challenged. I have played DW7 online maybe 5 times total and DWG3 online sucked balls.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #648 on:** March 28, 2012, 10:25:47 PM »

I'm starting to encounter the Troy Musou stages and enemies to fight.

This game just keeps getting better...

Trent Dole · « **Reply #649 on:** March 28, 2012, 10:29:48 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on March 28, 2012, 10:00:40 PM

I don't see why I need online to enjoy this game. Don't be distinguished mentally-challenged. I have played DW7 online maybe 5 times total and DWG3 online sucked balls.

DW7 online was crap too. You both had soldiers in different locations so you could watch your co-op partner slashing around at what was seemingly nothing when on their screen they're killing dudes.

Also your new thread title is missing the s at the end of WARRIORS.

Himu · « **Reply #650 on:** March 29, 2012, 12:18:50 AM »

Holy shit, this could very well be the definitive Musou. It has DW's tactical edge, the fast pace of DWG3, lots of funny writing, a (surprisingly) interesting story - especially if you know the characters backgrounds, and the character leveling system from past Orochi games makes it as fun as ever. There's tons of stuff to unlock, and every time I play a map, I'm finding a new move or something added to my move list or a new and cool way to pull a 1000 hit combo.

Speaking of maps, it's so refreshing to have multiple armies fighting each other. My favorite map so far was a struggle between three (not two!) factions forcing my own army to split up. I'd go back and forth on the front to handle any incoming threats. I tried the map on hard and it was balls to the wall tension that felt like a real time strategy game with back and slash added in. Holy fuck.

I'm really enjoying the new special attributes they gave each unit type as well. Stringing combos as a Wonder character never ceases to be fun.

It doesn't have the difficulty curve WO2 had but aside from that this game is Beat em Up crack. If people gave this game a shot it could easily be recognized as being one of the best beat em ups the genre has to offer.

Bebpo · « **Reply #651 on:** March 29, 2012, 03:53:48 AM »

The pace is still slower than DWG3. At least until you get mounts, which I don't have yet. Running from one group to the next still takes some time and I keep wishing I had a dash button like DWG3 has boost button.

Otherwise it's good stuff.

Himu · « **Reply #652 on:** March 29, 2012, 03:54:31 AM »

It's not that slow. Is 20-30 seconds really too long for you?

Bebpo · « **Reply #653 on:** March 29, 2012, 04:02:50 AM »

Nah, but it's pointless. Why spend a half dozen 20-30 seconds each map of doing absolutely nothing but holding forward? Like, I just don't understand the design philosophy behind it on these musou games. DWG3 shows that they understood people buy these games to BEAT STUFF UP and so they made a boost + small levels so that you're flying from one area to the next in <5 seconds and always kicking ass. I don't understand why they don't implement the same thing (with bigger levels) in DW/SW/WO. Even the horses in DW aren't that fast.

Then again Basara has that same problem too. A lot of time spent running between fights. Not a fan of downtime in musou games.

Himu · « **Reply #654 on:** March 29, 2012, 04:18:05 AM »

I don't like DWG3 small levels. I think DWG3's levels are forgettable and atrocious.

I like large maps, large scale battles. DWG3 battles feel like skirmishes, not war battles. There is nothing in DWG3 that is remotely like the Hydra stage in WO3. Nothing. And that's just the FIRST STAGE.

I'll just chalk it up to you have a lack of patience. You like things fast, fast, fast and don't like things that have downtime. Understandable.

DWG3 also lacks any sense of tension. I ended up have a game over in WO3 tonight because I had to travel from half way across the map to assist an ally. He [Taishi Ci] ended up dying, which is against the victory conditions and I had to start over and this was on normal mode.

If it were DWG3, it wouldn't even matter because for the most part, if you boost it up, you'll always reach there in time to kick ass and defend your zone.

Bebpo · « **Reply #655 on:** March 29, 2012, 04:23:52 AM »

I like games having downtime in games where downtime makes sense for pacing reasons. What I don't get is why there should be downtime, every 20 seconds in a BEAT UP 1 MILLION SOLDIERS games. I guess it wouldn't be as bad if it took longer to kill the enemy groups, but literally it goes like this:

Run to group for 5-20 seconds
Do 1 combo or 2 that kills entire group and general; Takes maybe 15-20 seconds

Run to next group for 5-20 seconds
repeat.

I feel in most musou games that do that, it makes the pacing all kinds of goofy and inconsistent. I want to be FIGHTING DUDES for minutes straight. I feel like I hardly ever get that in musou games. At least in DWG3 you kill a group in 20 seconds, but you're at the next group in 3 seconds so it's almost like you're always fighting.

Bebpo · « **Reply #656 on:** March 29, 2012, 04:26:30 AM »

DWG3 traded the "tension" that was in DWG1-2 for a game that is the equivalent of Shinobi PS2, it's a pure speed running combat musou. The fun is trying to finish the stages as fast as possible. That's the challenge and it's a fun one.

Don't know why you're trying to be a hater, I was under the impression DWG3 was almost universally loved by musou fans.

Himu · « **Reply #657 on:** March 29, 2012, 04:31:52 AM »

If these games were just pure beat em ups, I probably wouldn't like them. I like the kill 1000's dudes element, but I like the light strategy elements and war elements just as much.

To me, this sounds like a case of expectations. It sounds like you want it to be a genre it really isn't. In other words, it sounds like you want Ninja Gaiden.

Himu · « **Reply #658 on:** March 29, 2012, 04:32:34 AM »

Quote from: Bebpo on March 29, 2012, 04:26:30 AM

DWG3 traded the "tension" that was in DWG1-2 for a game that is the equivalent of Shinobi PS2, it's a pure speed running combat musou. The fun is trying to finish the stages as fast as possible. That's the challenge and it's a fun one.

Don't know why you're trying to be a hater, I was under the impression DWG3 was almost universally loved by musou fans.

I love DWG3. I'm not being a hater. I just don't understand the complaint that Musou games are "slow", or at least, modern Musou games.

Bebpo · « **Reply #659 on:** March 29, 2012, 04:40:52 AM »

They aren't slow! I just think they have odd pacing issues.

I really like WO3

Great game, and it feels much faster than DW7.

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