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« Reply #420 on: March 31, 2012, 01:47:48 PM »
I say this is good news. Gamestop bought all the competition. It is now the only place you can buy games in store.

I can buy and sell at bestbuy or nearly any mom and pop store that deals in videogames. And if there was more compeitition I could sell at those places too. And why does this even matter? I can sell my stuff over the internet or ebay anyway. It's not like because of Gamestop I have no avenue anywhere to sell games I purchased.

I hate this idea of because I dislike Gamestop for whatever various reasons, me as the consumer should get fucked over too.

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« Reply #421 on: March 31, 2012, 01:53:08 PM »
I find the $1 per hour rule to be unfair. I use a quality rule. Most games I buy for full price, I am jizzing from my eyepores. Why? Because I know what I like, and I risk very little.

For example, I bought Portal 2 for full price, and I think it was worth it. Sure, I haven't exactly spent the 60 hours or so in terms of monetary value (1 buck per hour), but it was such a high quality game that I find paying a premium was justified in a way.

We all have our preferences.  The types of games I buy lend itself well to the $1/hr model, like RPGs and Musou titles.
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« Reply #422 on: March 31, 2012, 02:00:14 PM »
yeah, i have so many unplayed games in my steam library alone that a game really has to do something special to get me to drop the full 60
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« Reply #423 on: March 31, 2012, 02:06:20 PM »
I say this is good news. Gamestop bought all the competition. It is now the only place you can buy games in store.

I can buy and sell at bestbuy or nearly any mom and pop store that deals in videogames. And if there was more compeitition I could sell at those places too. And why does this even matter? I can sell my stuff over the internet or ebay anyway. It's not like because of Gamestop I have no avenue anywhere to sell games I purchased.

I hate this idea of because I dislike Gamestop for whatever various reasons, me as the consumer should get fucked over too.

Over here at least, gamestop killed the mom and pop stores, and Best Buy selling used games is a recent phenomenon.
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« Reply #424 on: March 31, 2012, 02:42:36 PM »
I know. I was just musing about the subject of gamestop. It was more of an addendum than me talking the main points of the argument.

I may borrow my friends FF13-2 in a few weeks, too, now that you mention it.
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« Reply #425 on: April 02, 2012, 07:05:00 AM »
Another day another rumor,other websites will probably follow with their own sources--fun times

http://www.vg247.com/2012/04/02/xbox-720-detailed-blu-ray-inside-always-on-netcon-required/#more-248119

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VG247 has learned that Microsoft has now detailed Xbox 720 to certain partners and has internally confirmed the machine for a Christmas 2013 release.

The next generation Xbox will have a Blu-ray drive, contrary to a recent report.

Multiple sources have confirmed this morning that the machine will have two GPUs. One said: “It’s like two PCs taped together.”

We’re waiting for final confirmation of specs, but the graphics cards are thought to be equivalent to AMD’s 7000 series GPUs, but “not CrossFire or SLI”. The GPUs aren’t structured as they are in a normal dual PC set-up, in which the two chips take it in turns to draw lines of the same object: Xbox 720′s graphics units will be able to work independently, drawing separate items simultaneously.

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There will be “four or six” cores to the Xbox 720 CPU, one of which will be reserved for Kinect and one for the OS.

Xbox 720 will require an always-on internet connection as an anti-piracy measure.

We’ve also been told that the next generation of Kinect will be built into the device as standard.

Yeah right,that would be a total fail even to fully digital persons like me.

Can't wait to place next xbox on top of my monitor,it better ship with quality ducktape.

First next xbox (french)rumor talked also about prototype dual gpu
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« Reply #426 on: April 02, 2012, 09:41:49 AM »
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VG247 has been told that Sony is aiming to release PlayStation 4 before Xbox 720 next Christmas, and that certain developers have been invited to reveal meetings in the US in May and June.

Following continued reports last week that PlayStation 4 is to be based on AMD hardware and is being planned for a 2013 release, a VG247 source has said Sony is aiming to get the machine to market ahead of Microsoft’s next generation Xbox.

The design goalposts for PS4, including specs, were in place at least two years ago, we were told. Our source said that Sony is “confident” it will have the console at market ahead of the next generation Xbox next Christmas.

VG247 reported this morning that developers and publishers have been told that Xbox 720 will be released for Holiday 2013.

“Sony are completely in the belief that they have the jump on Microsoft this time,” they said. “You should be watching the timing of next year’s E3 keynotes, and who’s going to go first.”

A second source said this morning that all next-generation systems will be in place “by 2014″.

Sony has apparently already put its favoured partners in the frame as to PlayStation 4.

“Top line publishers already know about it,” our source said. “Developers working with publishers – like Ubisoft, for example – already know what’s going on. They’re already working on it.”

While “most developers” will be fully briefed “by the end of this year,” some have been invited to events in May and June in the US.

Another source has told us more information is going to be issued about PS4 to developers under NDA in May.

MCV reported earlier this year that both PS4 and Xbox 720 “will be shown at E3 2012,” but both Microsoft and Sony have both said nothing consumer-facing about the next generation will happen at the LA event this year.

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In addition, a rumour is circulating that PlayStation 4 will use DirectX as opposed to a proprietary Sony API. It was reported last week that PlayStation 4 will not be based on PS3′s Cell processor in any way, and will instead use standard AMD hardware.

We were told today that Crytek was scaling its tech on the assumption that PS4 was going to be using a 24-core Cell processor as opposed to the eight-core unit in PS3. The studio was forced to halt development and start afresh when it was informed PlayStation 4 won’t be using Cell at all.

Indications are that PlayStation 4 will provide a development environment similar to that of the Xbox consoles and PC.

In addition VG247 has been told that elements of Vita’s launch hardware were changed to ensure that PS4 and Vita will be able to connect in a similar style to Nintendo’s Wii U and its controller – due for release this year – with Vita’s being used to control PS4 games with both twin sticks and touch.


http://www.vg247.com/2012/04/02/playstation-4-sony-confident-of-pre-xbox-720-release/

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Re: Next next gen thread of stupid rumors;MCV:No disc drive for Next Xbox
« Reply #427 on: April 02, 2012, 09:43:16 AM »
It uses next gen duct tape.
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« Reply #428 on: April 02, 2012, 09:52:41 AM »
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a VG247 source has said Sony is aiming to get the machine to market ahead of Microsoft’s next generation Xbox.

This is the part that doesn't make a lot of sense. Most people are saying xbox 720 in the fall of next year. "Beating" out the 360 to market is getting one out this fall. Beating it by a few months in 2013 isn't a big deal.

And even this notion of being first strikes me as some gamer myth. The PS 3 lost market share because of what they did and its price. Not because the 360 went first. Where was this logic when the Dreamcast launched first and got stomped. Being "first" doesn't matter. Giving the mainstream what it wants, is what determines market share.

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« Reply #429 on: April 02, 2012, 09:58:06 AM »
Being first isn't much on its own, but being first with a competent competitor is generally a winning move.

True.

I just think there are a lot more important lessons Sony should have learned from the launch of the PS 3 rather than being first. That being first thing sounds like sour grapes. They lost market share for a lot more reasons than not being first.


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« Reply #430 on: April 02, 2012, 10:26:21 AM »
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We were told today that Crytek was scaling its tech on the assumption that PS4 was going to be using a 24-core Cell processor as opposed to the eight-core unit in PS3. The studio was forced to halt development and start afresh when it was informed PlayStation 4 won’t be using Cell at all.
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This is the part that doesn't make a lot of sense. Most people are saying xbox 720 in the fall of next year. "Beating" out the 360 to market is getting one out this fall. Beating it by a few months in 2013 isn't a big deal.

Being first will matter if your console is noticeably cheaper and delivers about the same experience.The question is,can Sony do that?


This is interesting also

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In addition VG247 has been told that elements of Vita’s launch hardware were changed to ensure that PS4 and Vita will be able to connect in a similar style to Nintendo’s Wii U and its controller – due for release this year – with Vita’s being used to control PS4 games with both twin sticks and touch.
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« Reply #431 on: April 02, 2012, 10:34:08 AM »
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In addition VG247 has been told that elements of Vita’s launch hardware were changed to ensure that PS4 and Vita will be able to connect in a similar style to Nintendo’s Wii U and its controller – due for release this year – with Vita’s being used to control PS4 games with both twin sticks and touch.

They can call it the Pii U!
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« Reply #432 on: April 02, 2012, 10:36:26 AM »
This will be called PS Orbis or some shit like that
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« Reply #433 on: April 02, 2012, 10:55:12 AM »
they should call it the ps flatline

/bizarro methodis
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« Reply #434 on: April 02, 2012, 11:41:53 AM »
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The next generation Xbox will have a Blu-ray drive, contrary to a recent report.

??? There was a recent report that said that? How gullible would you have to be?

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« Reply #435 on: April 02, 2012, 11:42:13 AM »
Yes, don't want to upset Crytek.

They must be a bunch of distinguished mentally-challenged fellows if they thought Sony was not only going to stick with Cell, but also shoot that high.

All that effort will not go to waste, programming for Cell = better performance on multi core/multi thread cpus
Next Xbox will benefit greatly from that

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« Reply #436 on: April 02, 2012, 11:42:42 AM »
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The next generation Xbox will have a Blu-ray drive, contrary to a recent report.

??? There was a recent report that said that? How gullible would you have to be?

Learn to read.
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« Reply #437 on: April 02, 2012, 11:48:38 AM »
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The next generation Xbox will have a Blu-ray drive, contrary to a recent report.

??? There was a recent report that said that? How gullible would you have to be?

Learn to read.

You learn to read. I was commenting on the "recent report" that the next Xbxox wouldn't have a Blu-ray drive. Who would honestly believe that?

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« Reply #438 on: April 02, 2012, 11:56:25 AM »
It's in the thread title,posted weeks ago.
You must be working for Nintendo,get along with the times,digital is the future :)

In other news,
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12/04/02/apple_working_on_physical_game_controller_for_ipads_and_other_ios_devices_.html

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With Google's Android operating system already bundling rudimentary support for external gaming devices, Apple is reportedly working on its own physical controller to similarly enhance gameplay on its iPad and other mobile devices.

In his review of Apple's new iPad and its gaming graphics prowess, AnandTech's Anand Lal Shimpi reports that he has been made aware of "an internal Apple project to bring a physical controller to market," but said his sources were unable to determine whether the company has made a definitive decision to follow through on its efforts.

Regardless, Lal Shimpi believes such devices may soon be a necessary accompaniment for hardcore mobile gamers, especially as smartphones and tablets come close to equalling the performance of existing game consoles.

He adds that the iPad maker may also be feeling some pressure to this end from rival Google, which has baked in basic wired and wireless controller support into its Android operating system since the release of Honeycomb 3.0 roughly one year ago.

Along with their Android counterparts, iOS devices have emerged as a new frontier for game developers, with one research firm indicating that the two platforms saw their combined share of U.S.-based game software revenue rise more than threefold from just 19% in 2009 to an estimated 58% by the end of last year.

Their success has come at the expense of incumbents Nintendo and Sony, who saw their respective share of software sales slip from 70% to 36% and 11% to 6%, respectively, over the same period.

The situation faced by Nintendo and Sony shows signs of worsening this year, with Sony recently reporting a staggering loss of $1.2 billion for the December quarter shortly after Nintendo reported the first ever operating loss ($575 million) in its corporate history.

Meanwhile, Apple has quietly been assembling an arsenal of seasoned gaming executives to help leverage its momentum in the gaming space as it takes a head-on approach to combating encroachment from Google and others.

Most recently, the company was reported to have lured Robin Burrowes away from heading up Microsoft's overseas XBox Live team. His hiring followed the recruit of Nintendo's public relation's chief Robert Saunders last year, as well as Nick Grange -- who also at one point ran public relations for Xbox, as well as for gaming heavyweights Activision and Electronics Arts.
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« Reply #440 on: April 02, 2012, 12:13:08 PM »
they have to be considering it, at least

i mean, it wouldn't be much in the way of investment on their part, so it's money just laying on the table
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« Reply #442 on: April 02, 2012, 12:25:36 PM »
it would be a big #nongamechanger that could grow up in to a BIG BIG #GAMECHANGER

Bethesda releasing fully playable IOS Skyrim,playable on big TV,cheap...
Apple takes 30%,no QA,no nothing

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« Reply #443 on: April 02, 2012, 12:36:08 PM »
It's in the thread title,posted weeks ago.
You must be working for Nintendo,get along with the times,digital is the future :)

I absolutely love the idea of DD and would buy all my games digital if it were an option. I guess I took a different idea away from that sentence that the "report" was that Nextbox didn't have a BRD because it had some other drive, not because it was all digital.

Also as for that game controller article, I like how they say Android has "rudimentary" support for game controllers. Umm, it has support for them. How is it rudimentary? It works fine and exactly as suspected. And Android's supported it since like 1.6. Another shill article knocking Android to prop up Apple.

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« Reply #444 on: April 02, 2012, 12:44:07 PM »
it would be a big #nongamechanger that could grow up in to a BIG BIG #GAMECHANGER

Bethesda releasing fully playable IOS Skyrim,playable on big TV,cheap...
Apple takes 30%,no QA,no nothing

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Thinking about it, I can get the shader comment, but come on. The GPU is two years newer than the 360's and it has double the RAM (or more) to boot. Seems kind of bunk, and I actually bought into it at first, too. But it ain't logical.

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I keep seeing that tablet controller and thinking it would be awesome for VC if they would just move the start/select/+/- underneath the dpad or face button setup.  As for the article, I'm tired of this being some breaking point for the console. On the one hand, third party support is important and parity will help achieve that, on the other hand it might not materialise in support anyway if they did go that route ie gamecube.  I'm more interested in the featureset than polygons. 
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I don't actually care from a gaming perspective especially since I probably wasn't going to get one anyway but I so want that Wii U rumour to be true just for the lulz.

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Not sure I want an apple controller. I enjoy the games built around the touchscreen. Adding a controller options will mean more lazing porting of games I can play elsewhere rather than possibly having new games.
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I'd be down for a lot more iOS gaming if there was a controller.  Touchscreen controls fucking suck.
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I'd be down for a lot more iOS gaming if there was a controller.  Touchscreen controls fucking suck.

I think its a win win. If they add a controller they get more hardcore games but the bulk of games will always be made for touch controls.

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http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-04-03-next-gen-consoles-mean-increased-development-costs

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Developers with access to the Durango (the code name for Microsoft's next console) are seeing costs rise sharply, primarily due to higher polygon counts and better textures required. "I'm having to double my budget for models," said one developer working on a sequel to an earlier title that appeared on Xbox 360 and PS3. "If we want to take advantage of Durango's capabilities it takes a lot more time for each model." This can also result in either a longer time to develop a title, or the need to put more artists on, or both.

Similar budget issues are expected for the PlayStation 4 (codename 'Orbis') and the Wii U. The Wii U's development costs will be higher than Wii titles due to increased resolution, but utilizing the tablet controller will also mean additional time in design. Some uses for the tablet controller seem obvious, like diagramming plays in a Madden game using your finger. Using the tablet controller in other games may be more challenging, depending on how much the developers want to create something unique for the Wii U (spending extra on that development that is not needed for other platforms).

At a time when many console titles have been finding it more difficult to make a profit, the prospect of doubling already considerable budgets is not making publishers happy. They are already looking to find ways to increase the revenue potential of their development efforts.

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nah, man, it's all good, they've got it covered with that used game thing

profits by the bucketful
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i suspect that wii u tablet is basically just gonna be used as a menu/inventory screen for 80% of games

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:lol

"what game am i playing, what game am i playing, oh god what game am i playing?"

*looks down*

"whew"
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i suspect that wii u tablet is basically just gonna be used as a menu/inventory screen for 80% of games

I'd take that. Would also mean the devs only have to worry about the TV for graphics, making them more better.

Also yeah it's been painfully obvious the current development path is not sustainable. Ugly times ahead.

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Re: Next next gen thread of stupid rumors;MCV:No disc drive for Next Xbox
« Reply #461 on: April 03, 2012, 01:14:53 PM »
Apple making a physical controller is pretty much in line with other silly moves experiments they have made in the past. AppleTV, TimeMachine, Pippin, QuickTake camera, etc.

The success of iPad/iPhone gaming comes from the anytime-and-anywhere accessibility of the games. Not only do users always have their phone with them, they can even purchase games whenever they see someone else playing something that looks interesting. However, they won't always have that separate controller with them, unless it's just phenomenally portable, but that would probably mean it's too small to be a practical, robust controller.

My main concern is that it is rarely successful to target anything other than the base hardware configuration. There were plenty of 4-player games for GameCube and its built-in four controller ports, but there weren't many for PlayStation2, as very few people owned the MultiTap. Then there is the EyeToy, PS2-HDD, Move, blah-blah-blah.

Virtual d-pads and buttons suck, sure. Developers need to focus on making games which work with the available iOS controls, and not try make everything conform to the overly complex control model of console games.


they should call it the ps flatline

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i suspect that wii u tablet is basically just gonna be used as a menu/inventory screen for 80% of games

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it'll also be used to display the game's logo.

Given the way this current gen has gone, I fully expect that the WiiU tablet will be used by more than one company to automatically display their online store where you can purchase DLC whilst playing the game.
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Thats most likely only for high end development. They can still use the current Unreal Engine with the current level of assets to make new games and they will look great.

Creating a new focused engine and R&D for use of new control methods and potential larger scale is the big changes for devs going into this gen and then this will mostly be felt up front.

Article sounds like bullshit excuses to charge more for games/dlc
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http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-04-03-next-gen-consoles-mean-increased-development-costs

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Developers with access to the Durango (the code name for Microsoft's next console) are seeing costs rise sharply, primarily due to higher polygon counts and better textures required. "I'm having to double my budget for models," said one developer working on a sequel to an earlier title that appeared on Xbox 360 and PS3. "If we want to take advantage of Durango's capabilities it takes a lot more time for each model." This can also result in either a longer time to develop a title, or the need to put more artists on, or both.

Similar budget issues are expected for the PlayStation 4 (codename 'Orbis') and the Wii U. The Wii U's development costs will be higher than Wii titles due to increased resolution, but utilizing the tablet controller will also mean additional time in design. Some uses for the tablet controller seem obvious, like diagramming plays in a Madden game using your finger. Using the tablet controller in other games may be more challenging, depending on how much the developers want to create something unique for the Wii U (spending extra on that development that is not needed for other platforms).

At a time when many console titles have been finding it more difficult to make a profit, the prospect of doubling already considerable budgets is not making publishers happy. They are already looking to find ways to increase the revenue potential of their development efforts.

Weeoooo to the rescue...oh wait




largely a bullshit article
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:lol

"what game am i playing, what game am i playing, oh god what game am i playing?"

*looks down*

"whew"

hey, this is a fair issue for nintendo gamers.

<looks down>

"ah, mario party ... 11???? what the fuck? i thought this was mario party 13? god DAMMIT! well, at least nintendo reminded me. must post on gaf about this."
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i suspect that wii u tablet is basically just gonna be used as a menu/inventory screen for 80% of games

I'd take that. Would also mean the devs only have to worry about the TV for graphics, making them more better.

Also yeah it's been painfully obvious the current development path is not sustainable. Ugly times ahead.

what the fuck, you ARE aware that that a) the gpu still has to render/fill the pixels for the second screen; and b) the hardware has to sync to it, which introduces new perf considerations
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:lol

"what game am i playing, what game am i playing, oh god what game am i playing?"

*looks down*

"whew"

hey, this is a fair issue for nintendo gamers.

<looks down>

"ah, mario party ... 11???? what the fuck? i thought this was mario party 13? god DAMMIT! well, at least nintendo reminded me. must post on gaf about this."

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THE WII U TABLET IS AMAZING |OT|
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the gpu in the WEEEEEOOOOO is more powerful than the xenos or the rsx. on paper, it appears significantly moreso. reality, though, given the complexity of next generation graphics features -- IT MIGHT AS WELL BE THE EXACT SAME 2006/2007 GENERATION. it could be 5X the on-paper performance and still eke out no more than a couple extra fps given the same assets and rendering pipeline in real world results -- and can even look worse in early dev situations. until gaftards understand the complexity of current rendering and effects models and why the require GEOMETRICALLY more horsepower (i.e. vastly greater shader resources) to see significant visual improvements at higher pixel counts and frame rates, they're yakking about shit that is wholly, entirely academic and therefore 100% useless in the real world of game and graphics development.
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okay, point taken
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however, i DO look forward to at LEAST three years of :piss 4670M BUDGET GPU :piss2 trolls :teehee
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i mean, me and dcharlie can probably start our little gleeful circle jerk now :teehee
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Fun part will come when some game turns out to be sub-hd.

but but it renders two screens
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i think you mean "all games"
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sub-sub-hd then
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Momo

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sub-sd with 33.3k dial up modem

Himu

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Man, it sure is an awesome time to be a pc gamer.

won't a lot of the same problems that console games have also affect pc games as well considering most pc games these days are ports of console games? I'm asking because in preparation for next gen, I need to hear/read any/all arguments in favor of pc gaming.

It'd be great if pc had access to all the types of games I love, but it doesn't. Out of all the games I have interest in this year so far (FF13-2, ME3, SSX, WO3) only one has a pc release. Later this year? Virtua Fighter 5: FS is only on psn/xbla. Jet Set Radio hd is on steam, thankfully, and of course DIABLO 3 which is pc exclusive. If devs ported more games to pc, I'd be all aboard the pc hype train.
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Tasty

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i suspect that wii u tablet is basically just gonna be used as a menu/inventory screen for 80% of games

I'd take that. Would also mean the devs only have to worry about the TV for graphics, making them more better.

Also yeah it's been painfully obvious the current development path is not sustainable. Ugly times ahead.

what the fuck, you ARE aware that that a) the gpu still has to render/fill the pixels for the second screen; and b) the hardware has to sync to it, which introduces new perf considerations

I didn't mean, in comparison to having no controller. I meant, in comparison to having to push a second camera view of the game, or something else graphically intensive to the second screen. Compared to that, just putting a menu on it will allow the engine to worry more about what's actually happening on the TV.

Thus, more better graphics.

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magus

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man i don't know why people give so much shit to the graphix and the power,you don't get whimsy with those,if anything you get less out of it,someone like konami should step up and release like the turbografx 32 or something

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Man, it sure is an awesome time to be a portable gamer.

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