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[Tasty]

They buy that and not Revelations. Taste just as bad as Americans unfortunately.

[maxy]

They buy that and not Revelations. Taste just as bad as Americans unfortunately.

I don't think this has much to do with the taste.

The problem is that Resident Evil fanbase is on PS360 and those people don't give much shit about 3DS.

[maxy]

Or maybe people are starved for anything Resident Evil.Taste is not important to starving people.

Or maybe Resident Evil shit just smells better on HD consoles.

[Mr. Gundam]

If 250k+ bought that POS, Reisdent Evil 6 should do really well in the Fall.

[maxy]

hmm

yeah,checkmate

[Mr. Gundam]

People just want console RE games, regardless of quality.

[Mr. Gundam]

Be funny if RE6 did worse.

btw, looks like the gamers are already pretty happy with their ORCs, game's got a 42/100 rating on mk2.

The Amazon JP customer reviews should be great. Time to check 'em out.

[maxy]

Not sure why people are so shocked about ORC sales,it has guns and Resident Evil/Capcom in its title.What else do you want?

I like when things like this happen because they show two things

1.People will buy almost anything for their beloved franchises,regardless of quality.
2.You can't really make people buy things that don't interest them,regardless of quality.

[Momo]

If 250k+ bought that POS, Reisdent Evil 6 should do really well in the Fall.

Unless this satisfies their itch for RE and/or sours them on RE

[maxy]

It sold well in the West too,goofy

Seems like whole world is buying it for some reason.

[Tasty]

ah yes, guns, japanese are known for going goofy for guns

you fucking moron

Best laugh I had in a while.

[Takao]

How bad is that Dynasty Warriors game? I don't know how this could happen:

[PSV] Dynasty Warriors Next <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2011.12.17} (¥6.090) - 29.181 / NEW
[3DS] Dynasty Warriors Vs. <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2012.04.26} (¥6.090) - 15.578 / NEW

(Obviously Next has being a proven launch game going for it, but Vs. has the gigantic userbase on Vita)

I thought Vs. was actually going to do well. It had those Zelda, and Metroid (okay, that's a non-issue in Japan) crossovers, and looked like a Dynasty Warriors game. Then again, every 3D non-animu Dynasty Warriors game looks the same to me. Was this one more like Multiraid/ Strikeforce?

[Cerveza mas fina]

RE:ORC is gonna hurt RE6 sales.

[EmCeeGrammar]

Good launch sales happen regardless of taste, peoples.  Its when the stank sets in that you'll notice a massive sales drop in the following weeks.
And yeah, Revelations goes to prove its not exactly what people want to play on a portable.

[Bebpo]

They buy that and not Revelations. Taste just as bad as Americans unfortunately.

I don't think this has much to do with the taste.

The problem is that Resident Evil fanbase is on PS360 and those people don't give much shit about 3DS.

The problem is that Capcom advertised ORC as the next HD PS360 must have RE title and 90% of game buyers who don't lurk internet forums don't know that the game is an outsourced PoS.

This will hurt the brand for sure.  Or hey, maybe J6P gamers will like ORC?  It's not like they don't already buy and play other bad games.  Their bar for what makes a good game is a lot lower than the refined gaming tastes of EB.

[Bebpo]

But really, how many people will know it's a western developed game?  The 3% of Japanese gamers who frequent 2ch and mk2?

[Bebpo]

How come that doesn't work in America w/gaf?

[Trent Dole]

How come that doesn't work in America w/gaf?

Because 4chan is the US version of 2ch?

[Huff]

Who perpetrates the yoge kusoge meme?  Yep, the 3% of Japanese gamers who frequent 2ch and mk2.

Is it a dumb question to ask what the yoge kusoge meme is?

[Trent Dole]

'western games(yoge) shit games(kusoge)' basically.

[Takao]

Just based on context it seems like it's a mentality that if it is made in the west it's obviously crap.

[Momo]

Who perpetrates the yoge kusoge meme?  Yep, the 3% of Japanese gamers who frequent 2ch and mk2.

Is it a dumb question to ask what the yoge kusoge meme is?

It means shit western games

[Bebpo]

Just based on context it seems like it's a mentality that if it is made in the west it's obviously crap.

Yeah, this.  It's the Xenophiles on 2ch representing.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Its prob just a reaction to the Western "Japan is dead" trend, much like anything in Japanese gaming is a response to the west...

 

[maxy]

You people won't be laughing when some future COD sells one million in Japan.

As for the Western "Japan is dead" trend,that is real and growing among gaming population.Not sure if it can be fixed anymore...


One potential solution,moving  to Canada

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/169641/Ubisoft_investing_505M_to_build_up_Toronto_studio_.php

Ubisoft wants to replicate the success of its Montreal branch with its Toronto studio, and it plans to invest $500 million CAD ($505 million) and quadruple the office's headcount to 800+ employees to get there.

The Montreal branch, which the publisher is using as a model for the Toronto arm, is one of the largest game studios in the world with some 2,100 employees. It's also responsible for the Assassin's Creed and Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell series.

Founded in 2009, the Toronto studio is working on the next Splinter Cell game. Right now it has around 210 programmers and designers, but it intends to expand the team to more than 800 over the next ten years, according to a report from Canadian business newspaper Financial Post.

Similar to how Ubisoft brought in veterans from its Parisian headquarters to help set up the Montreal office 15 years ago, the company has moved a number of Montreal workers to Toronto -- including managing director Jade Raymond -- to make sure the studio is filled with veteran talent that can mentor younger employees.

"We are, in a way, applying the same recipe," said Ubisoft Montreal CEO Yannis Mallat. "We've been sending over experienced, senior people from Ubisoft Montreal as a guarantee that they immediately get traction and speed and knowledge in place so that they can recruit the best people. You can't hope to have a studio up and running in one year by just hiring junior people."

Ubisoft is receiving a lot of help from Ontario's government to build this studio in the province's capital, as the publisher was promised $263 million CAD ($266 million) over the course of ten years to set up the Toronto branch in 2009. The company's also able to take advantage of local tax credits to save on labor costs.

Many other big publishers and developers have branches in Toronto, including Zynga, Rockstar, Disney Interactive Studios, and Capcom. The city is also home to indie studios like Capybara Games and DrinkBox Studios.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Id move there for work if I had the chance.

[Takao]

I live in Toronto.

But has no programming experience, can't draw to save his life, has no music skills, nor a business background. 

[cool breeze]

Canada is a ballin video game development land mass these days. 

Eidos Montreal
Patrice Désilets at THQ Montreal (until THQ inevitably screws up)
Silicon Knights...

[Takao]

Slant Six is Canadian.

[Flannel Boy]

I live in Toronto.

But has no programming experience, can't draw to save his life, has no music skills, nor a business background. 

*hi-five

[Tasty]

I live in Toronto.

But has no programming experience, can't draw to save his life, has no music skills, nor a business background. 

Slant Six is Canadian.

You could probably get a job there.

[Takao]

I live in Toronto.

But has no programming experience, can't draw to save his life, has no music skills, nor a business background. 

Slant Six is Canadian.

You could probably get a job there.

Other side of the country I'm afraid.

edit: I know no one cares but I noticed recently that New Little King's Story on Vita outsold LKS on Wii's LTD in its first week (LKS number from Famitsu versus Media Create for NLKS)

[WII] Little King's Story (Marvelous Entertainment) - 6,426
[VITA] New Little King's Story (Konami) - 7,141

Evidently there's about 600 more people who wanted to play LKS with generic anime designs.

[Tasty]

It dumbfounds me it even got a sequel with sales that bad.

[Takao]

It seems more like a reboot than a sequel.

Konami's done some weird shit recently. They rebooted X-Blades as Blades of Time, grabbed Ninety-Nine Nights II and some other stuff no one asked for.

[originalz]

Its prob just a reaction to the Western "Japan is dead" trend, much like anything in Japanese gaming is a response to the west...

 

No, it's an old-ass meme, predating the internet, and it kind of has its roots in fact, if you think about it.  Think back to the NES era, or even the SNES era.  Now, consider *only* console games (because Japan was using completely different computers at the time, they didn't have access to most of the great Western PC games of those eras).  Western gaming doesn't look too good from that angle. 

The problem is that the meme, like every fucking meme ever, is a product of its time/place and only its time/place.  It needs to be retired badly and it slowly is going out thanks to the high quality of Western games on consoles these days.  Stuff like ORC that is high profile, complete dogshit, and can directly be compared to Japanese installments, though... it doesn't help.

It also didn't help that during the good old days, most western games had horrendous translations or were simply not translated, maybe with a translation card in the manual if you were lucky.  Combine that with games which were usually inferior to Japanese-produced ones, and it's not hard to see how that meme became commonplace.

Western devs didn't care about Japan, although oddly enough the PC RPGs like Ultima and Wizardry were pretty popular.  Even those had iffy translations but at least some sort of effort was made.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Just based on context it seems like it's a mentality that if it is made in the west it's obviously crap.

Sounds like most westaboos I come across on the internet, including here in regards to games from the east.

[Trent Dole]

I like games that aren't complete shit regardless of where they're from. 

[The Sceneman]

yeah at the end of the day who gives a shit where a game was made. Good game is good game

Yakuza - good game

Bionic Commando 2009 - good game

Castlevania - good game

Gears of War - good game

[Mr. Gundam]

I play more Japanese games, but I've still played tons of fantastic Western developed titles this generation.

And HELL YEAH to Bionic Commando 2009.

[The Sceneman]

I play more Japanese games, but I've still played tons of fantastic Western developed titles this generation.

And HELL YEAH to Bionic Commando 2009.

GOTY 2009, I wear my 1000/1000 as a badge of honor

[Stoney Mason]

EA revenue

Selected Operating Highlights and Metrics:

*On a non-GAAP basis
Strong results driven by the successful launches of Mass Effect™ 3, FIFA Street 4, SSX™ and Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning™.
FIFA 12 established the best year in franchise history - with downloads and micro-transactions totaling $108 million*. FIFA Ultimate Team — a pure digital companion to recent FIFA titles was the second best-selling EA offering in the UK in fiscal 12.
Battlefield 3™ had a record year, establishing itself as one of EA's premier game services and in the process successfully took share in the growing First-Person-Shooter market.
Battlefield 3 players are still deeply engaged — 6.3 million MAUs in March. New content downloads available in May and June.
Q4 full-game downloads were up 76 percent* year-over-year, contributing $60 million* in the quarter, driven in part by Mass Effect 3 and STAR WARS®: The Old Republic™.
STAR WARS®: The Old Republic™ active subscribers are 1.3 million. Two new content packs — Legacy and Allies, available in Q1.
EA's Play4Free brands are generating an average of nearly $2 million* per week. Several more EA brands will be introduced in the Play4Free portal in fiscal 13.
EA shattered its goal for digital revenue growth — generating more than $1.2 billion* in fiscal 12 for a 47 percent year-over-year growth, and driving operating margin to 10%. Another 40 percent increase in digital non-GAAP revenue and continued operating margin expansion is forecasted for fiscal 13.
EA's Origin™ platform for games and services has registered 11 million players and generated approximately $150 million* in just ten months. EA's Nucleus database has registered 220 million consumers.
Casual game leader PopCap™ — acquired by EA in August — is growing on mobile and social platforms with new games like Solitaire Blitz™ and Lucky Gem Casino™. A new version of Bejeweled™ is EA's top grossing game on the Apple® App StoreSM.
EA repurchased 27.7 million shares for $529 million through March 31, 2012, and as of the call, the $600 million share repurchase program has been completed.
In fiscal 13, EA will invest $80 million in development of games for Gen4 console systems.
Mass Effect 3 Sales Exceed $200 Million at Retail

[Joe Molotov]

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[Takao]

Wat at their Sony handheld vs. Nintendo handheld project sales. Did SCEA moneyhat all the sports games or something?

Edit: Wat, they project PS2 to sell more games for them than Nintendo handhelds in the third quarter? PS2?! I know South America, and India are developing markets where PS2 is still young, but come on...

[MyNameIsMethodis]

Yes they money hatted FIFA I think starting this year

[Eel O'Brian]

Let's Dress Up My Magical Fucking Horse Again

 

[HyperZoneWasAwesome]

holy crap, did a Dynasty Warriors 3DS game put up one fiddy K?
cause that's what it sounded like, which actually sounds pretty damn good for a copy-paste super-niche cash grab.

[archnemesis]

Samurai Warriors: Chronicles did almost 150k. I don't know if Dynasty Warriors VS has been released yet. It was supposed to be released in April according to Wikipedia, but I haven't seen any numbers for it yet.

Edit: Oh, it opened at "[3DS] Dynasty Warriors VS (Tecmo Koei, 04.26.2012): 15,578". I guess that's what dcharlie is referring to.

[originalz]

DW VS is such a pointless release that it deserves to bomb, especially after SWC which was an amazing game.  Hopefully it'll result in Koei putting more effort into their next release.

[Tasty]

3DS 91,868
PS3 23,478
PSP 20,033
WII 15,789
PSV 10,583
NDS 1,911
PS2 1,611
360 1,420

01./02. [WII] Mario Party 9 (Nintendo) - 144,585 / 297,468 (-5%)
02./01. [PS3] Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City (Capcom) - 52,428 / 304,953 (-79%)
03./03. [3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening (Nintendo) - 42,347 / 345,260 (-30%)
04./09. [3DS] Super Mario Land 3D (Nintendo) - 28,528 / 1,563,527 (+82%)
05./14. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 (Nintendo) - 22,881 / 1,695,305 (+96%)
06./15. [3DS] Kid Icarus: Uprising (Nintendo) - 18,788 / 261,883 (+63%)
07./11. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3 G (Capcom) - 16,496 / 1,433,370 (+21%)
08./21. [3DS] Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games (Nintendo) - 13,810 / 157,337
09./05. [PSP] Conception: Please Have My Children! (Spike) - 10,193 / 40,039 (-66%)
10./20. [WII] Wii Sports Resort (w/ Wii Remote+) (Nintendo) - 10,058 / 935,555 (+61%)
11./18. [PSP] Pro Yakyuu Spirits 2012 (Konami) - 9,843 / 128,409 (+48%)
12./16. [3DS] Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance (Square Enix) - 9,532 / 308,484 (+3%)
13./22. [NDS] Pokemon + Nobunaga no Yabou (Pokemon Co.) - 9,069 / 318,067
14./10. [3DS] Shin Sangoku Musou VS (Koei-Tecmo) - 8,614 / 24,192 (-45%)
15./23. [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 8,503 / 2,345,476
16./19. [PS3] Pro Yakyuu Spirits 2012 (Konami) - 6,853 / 152,934 (+8%)
17./29. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo) - 6,783 / 3,561,199
18./17. [PSP] Dai-2-Ji Super Robot Taisen Z Saisei-hen (Namco Bandai) - 6,546 / 328,432 (-23%)
19./27. [3DS] Harvest Moon: The Land of Origin (Marvelous) - 6,408 / 179,148
20./32. [WII] Go Vacation (Namco Bandai) - 6,002 / 271,087

[Momo]

re:orc

[Owl-faced Wizard]

So Vita is down during Golden Week.

[Tasty]

vita dropped during golden week.

hunh.

So is that good or bad? Err, slightly bad or really bad?

[Owl-faced Wizard]

Haha.  Is this the line for schadenfreude?

[Momo]

vita dropped during golden week.

hunh.

So is that good or bad? Err, slightly bad or really bad?

Bad? I take it you don't know what golden week is?

[Momo]

Only gold plated, Japan cant afford the solid gold stuff in this economy

[Tasty]

Isnt GW like Easter? But why would you buy games on Easter?

[frod]

But how can that be? I was told it had the best launch lineup in the history of videogaming, dammit!

[Momo]

IsntcGW like Easter?

Not so much, it's a week that you have like 4 days off.

[Tasty]

But how can that be? I was told it had the best launch lineup in the history of videogaming, dammit!

This is why launch lineups now and for the end of time mean crap. Give me two worthwhile games at launch and space the rest over the next six-eight months when there is always the post-launch desert and I'll be happy.

Of course it would be nice to have both, but I'd take well timed releases over best launch ever.

Of course I've sealed my fate since apparently Wii U's launch is going to be awesome but whatevs.

Isnt GW like Easter? But why would you buy games on Easter?

Golden Week is a week where three holidays are near each other, and it often works out to an entire week off (not this year, though).  The kids are home, families are taking road trips to visit other places, and shops run probably some of the best sales of the year (I saw 3G Vitas going for 18,500 yen at one shop, for example).  It's "Golden" because shops rack up some of the best sales of the year during the week.  Of course, games being toys, the Xmas/New Year's combo usually outdoes it, but GW is still probably the best sales period of the year outside of that.

But is there a fat man in red or a giant killer rabbit handing out the toys? That's what I wanna know.

[Eel O'Brian]

Yeah, if they don't drop the price soon, as in before late Fall, then they can go ahead and wrap it up. With all the other crazy deals on systems and games  I would imagine will be happening this year around the holiday season, any price cut then won't give them much in the way of forward momentum. They need to start generating some interest now, before the Fall swarm. 

It's just too fucking expensive for what it is, and even though I think it's the best piece of handheld gaming hardware ever made I have been saying that since the beginning. $199 + 4GB + DLC code for a game would be a smart thing to do. I can't believe they have lost every single bit of the good will they generated when it was announced.

No, wait, it's Sony, I can totally believe it.