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[Joe Molotov]

https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/940566931987423232

Already at ~75% of Wii U's LTD in 9 months. 

Dear Nintendo, please port the rest of the good Wii U games to the Switch (TMS#FE, Captain Toad, Tropical Freeze...and okay that's pretty much it) and we can both just forget that whole thing ever happened.

[Corporal]

Blue shells and repetitive audio samples. Yeah. That's a lot of smiles alright. 

Good pace though. Hard to believe that Nintendo still seems to have some supply issues, judging by their release tactics in  Japan.

[archie4208]

https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/940566931987423232

Already at ~75% of Wii U's LTD in 9 months. 

Dear Nintendo, please port the rest of the good Wii U games to the Switch (TMS#FE, Captain Toad, Tropical Freeze...and okay that's pretty much it) and we can both just forget that whole thing ever happened.

>#FE
>Good

 

[Joe Molotov]

Correct.

[archie4208]

It's basically a Persona 5 alpha (I'm pretty sure they even use the same engine).  It was fine when it came out, but I couldn't recommend it in a post P5 world.

[Tasty]

Switch sold the same as the PS4 in the same timeframe, but without a full holiday boost.

Can't wait to see what the full 1-year tally is.

[Joe Molotov]

I consider it to be Persona 4.5.

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https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/940566931987423232

Already at ~75% of Wii U's LTD in 9 months. 

[Great Rumbler]

The turn around from Wii U to Switch is pretty incredible, and really shows what a totally misstep the former system was. So, in the end, what was it that killed the Wii U, but saved the Switch?

[Tasty]

Same thing happened with GC -> Wii. Nintendo's done this boom-bust thing a couple times (and yet people still write them off when they're off their game.)

[Rahxephon91]

I think it's pretty clear that Nintendo consoles have to offer something the other systems don't. The Wii and it's motion controls offered something that was appealing and it was boosted by Nintendo support. The Wii U really did'nt. The tablet controller really in the end amounted to nothing and so you had a console that really was not really appealing. The Switch does thanks to being portable. I'm not saying "oh it's all a gimmick" or maybe I am, but I think that diminishes the point. Even if their consoles all have great Nintendo support they are always going to lack the games or features the mainstream wants. They aren't ever going to be the place people will go to for Madden or CoD. Even if the system was as strong as it's rivals. So they need something that makes it clear that the system is unique and with that software that makes use of it.  The Switch is so obvious in how unique it is that it is no way confusing to anyone that it's a system unlike the PS4 or Xbox. The WiiU really didn't. It has a tablet controller that does what beyond being an over-sized thing that displays maps. Oh boy!

[Trent Dole]

Prior to the holiday season ramping up I'd regularly see switches in stores. Hell a place had one in a week or so ago even, they're not supply constrained where I am and this isn't a low pop area.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Nintendo gets complacent very easily.  When a fire is lit under their asses, they are one of the best.  Which makes their lazy, complacent phases all the more frustrating.  The Switch has had a great launch year and I'll be interested to see if they keep that streak going or if they think Wii Music 2 (or whatever the Switch equivalent will be) is an acceptable leading holiday title.

[Positive Touch]

yeah i think besides being a solid system, having new hi-quality zelda and mario titles, a mario kart port, and a new splatoon all helped a ton. nintendo always suffers most when they have huge dead spaces in their first party release calendar.

[kingv]

I care too.

I expect to see smash bros u in 18, and maybe a few other Wii U and and 3ds ports with some big hitters at the end of the year.

Really hoping for Bayo 3 in the fall. Will be there say 1!

[kingv]

Prior to the holiday season ramping up I'd regularly see switches in stores. Hell a place had one in a week or so ago even, they're not supply constrained where I am and this isn't a low pop area.

I saw a lot leading up to thanksgiving, but it seems like they are rarer but still findable after Black Friday. For example, right now, they are OOS on Amazon, but you can still get a bundle at GameStop.

[Raist]

I wouldn't draw too many conclusions on the Switch yet.

It's been launch hype + half a holiday season, with the usual cohort of diehard Nintendo fans being starved to death after the WiiU trainwreck, and pretty much every single major IP (in terms of sales) launched already. If the November NPD results leak is anything to go by, it may not end up being the massive hit it appears to at first glance.

But hopefully they keep doing reasonably well, and maybe decide putting a bit more effort into new IPs and drastic changes on old ones.

[Fifstar]

Oh c'mon.

Switch is gonna outsell Wii U in 10 months, has its big holiday season in december and there are still lots if not the biggest ips left. Pokemon? Smash Brothers? Animal Crossing? 2D Mario? Proper new Mario Kart?

Sure it probably won't keep up with the ps4 Sales but the Switch will definetly be a huge success dir Nintendo. You don't sell 10 Million systems without a holiday season if you're not doing some things right.

Imagine the damage Pokemon + a possible pricedrop might do in december 2018.

[Tasty]

Pokemon alone ensures this thing will outsell the GameCube, and probably the N64 too.

[team filler]

nintendo combined their handheld and console teams as well as markets. Winning! 

[archie4208]

Now I only have to buy one underpowered system instead of two.

And people say Nintendo isn't consumer friendly.

[HardcoreRetro]

Oh yeah No More Heroes might come out in 2018. But only I care about that one.

Disgusting lies.

[Corporal]

I really wish we could get an unfiltered view of the supply situation of the switch. I mean, it's astounding that Japan still only gets roughly 200k per week. It's strange that Nintendo still can't seem to ramp up production. I mean, we know they are competing with pretty much every smartphone producer for parts, but you'd think they would have had enough foresight to plan ahead for a success scenario. They have been in this market for decades now.


I'm undecided on the next No More Heroes entry. Loved the first one despite (or maybe because of?) it being a horrible, janky, crass Frankenstein Monster, but found the second one to be outright dull since it was polished enough to lose appeal and choke on its inadequacies. Didn't even finish it.
To be quite honest, I'd probably rather have a NMH crossover. A "Gaiden" entry to e.g. Yakuza could be hilarious. But what do I know.

Random thought: ...just give me fucking a P.N.03 sequel. I have a craving for rhythm based combat and delicious gyrating hips. Errr, amazing presentation and music and Sci-Fi themes. Cough.

[Beezy]

Random thought: ...just give me fucking a P.N.03 sequel. I have a craving for rhythm based combat and delicious gyrating hips. Errr, amazing presentation and music and Sci-Fi themes. Cough.

 

[Cerveza mas fina]

Dear Nintendo, please port the rest of the good Wii U games to the Switch (TMS#FE, Captain Toad, Tropical Freeze...and okay that's pretty much it) and we can both just forget that whole thing ever happened.

Man support this 100%.

[kingv]

I really wish we could get an unfiltered view of the supply situation of the switch. I mean, it's astounding that Japan still only gets roughly 200k per week. It's strange that Nintendo still can't seem to ramp up production. I mean, we know they are competing with pretty much every smartphone producer for parts, but you'd think they would have had enough foresight to plan ahead for a success scenario. They have been in this market for decades now.


I'm undecided on the next No More Heroes entry. Loved the first one despite (or maybe because of?) it being a horrible, janky, crass Frankenstein Monster, but found the second one to be outright dull since it was polished enough to lose appeal and choke on its inadequacies. Didn't even finish it.
To be quite honest, I'd probably rather have a NMH crossover. A "Gaiden" entry to e.g. Yakuza could be hilarious. But what do I know.

Random thought: ...just give me fucking a P.N.03 sequel. I have a craving for rhythm based combat and delicious gyrating hips. Errr, amazing presentation and music and Sci-Fi themes. Cough.

Honestly, switch supply situation is much better than the Wii. That thing was hard to find for like 2 years almost.

[Corporal]

Honestly, switch supply situation is much better than the Wii. That thing was hard to find for like 2 years almost.

Should that not be a cautionary tale for them and spurn them on to avoid a repeat of such a situation?

[kingv]

I just think it’s the way of Nintendo. They have always been conservatively run.

Theoretically we can say they shouldn’t make the same mistake twice, but otoh my guess is that being extremely conservative with supply chain and financial risks is probably a reason why Wii U didn’t completely tank the company.

[Corporal]

It's precisely because Nintendo is so conservative that I'd expect them to cover all the bases, with scaling options both upwards and downwards in their supplier contracts. It's only prudent to keep your ass covered for all possible outcomes. Oh well. Some things we will never know with certainty. Maybe some investor Q&A or end of fiscal year disclosures will allow us to dig into this a bit more. Eventually, I mean.

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So, we got a sneak peak at the upcoming week 50 numbers in Japan.
Switch almost at 3 million (230k sales) and MariO selling 110k copies (a substantial increase wk/wk, now over 1 Million total, plus digital).

200-odd k sales once again. Will they empty their storage for the last big week, and if so, how much will that amount to? The suspense.

[Raist]

I need to know. Why do you always type "MariO" not "Mario".

[Positive Touch]

mario Odyssey

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MariOdd

[Joe Molotov]

MariOOOOOOOOO
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[Corporal]

Let's be honest, odyssey is one of those odd words. When typing it in I always have a split second where I'm unsure just how many d's and s's there are in Oddysey. Hence, MariO.

Less work, no Fight Club porn-frame-insert moments or 'nam flashbacks during entry, and most people will quickly recognise what game I'm referencing, because what else could it possibly mean. Plus, I'm saving like several button presses. And bandwidth. And thus energy. I'm doing this for the environment, really.

[Corporal]

Neverrrrrr. Y'all just trying to hammer in the nail that sticks out. I'm a special snowflake, dammit, the status quo is just trying to suppress my uniqueness. Down with the establishment.

Mods halp, I'm being repressed.


....So, how about them Japan numbers, huh. PS4 is probably going to be down YOY at the end of the calendar year, which obviously spells doom for the entire company. Sony should obviously just stick to selling insurance. The market has spoken.
Tongue in cheek fanboying aside, I'm (very) mildly shocked that the exclusive MonHan Bundle and MHW demo/beta thing didn't do more to the numbers. MS on either of its platforms is nonexistent in Japan, so I'd have thought that the positive word of mouth and surely substantial PR expenditure from Capcom would have pushed PS4 sales upwards a bit more. Oh well.

[HardcoreRetro]

I'm undecided on the next No More Heroes entry. Loved the first one despite (or maybe because of?) it being a horrible, janky, crass Frankenstein Monster, but found the second one to be outright dull since it was polished enough to lose appeal and choke on its inadequacies. Didn't even finish it.
To be quite honest, I'd probably rather have a NMH crossover. A "Gaiden" entry to e.g. Yakuza could be hilarious. But what do I know.

The second game wasn't directed by Suda51. Suda doesn't actually like the second game much either.

[Rahxephon91]

I also have a similar opinion about NMH2. I really didn't care for it. The polish and "Travis is so cool" story did nothing for me.

And honestly I did'nt like the retro job mini games.

[archie4208]

https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/948901835284283393

[Tasty]

[Great Rumbler]

In the U.S., more than 60 percent of Nintendo Switch owners have Super Mario Odyssey, and over 55 percent own The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild. Not only are these games system-sellers, but they’re also two of the highest-rated games in history. Nintendo Switch owners also possess the fun, competitive games Mario Kart 8 Deluxe and Splatoon 2 at rates of more than 50 percent and 20 percent, respectively.

They're saying that the Switch has sold at least 4.8 million in the US, so with those attach rates we're looking at Mario at 2.88 million, Zelda at 2.64, Mario Kart at 2.4 million, and Splatoon 2 at 0.96 million just in the US.

[Purple Filth]

In the U.S., more than 60 percent of Nintendo Switch owners have Super Mario Odyssey, and over 55 percent own The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild. Not only are these games system-sellers, but they’re also two of the highest-rated games in history. Nintendo Switch owners also possess the fun, competitive games Mario Kart 8 Deluxe and Splatoon 2 at rates of more than 50 percent and 20 percent, respectively.

They're saying that the Switch has sold at least 4.8 million in the US, so with those attach rates we're looking at Mario at 2.88 million, Zelda at 2.64, Mario Kart at 2.4 million, and Splatoon 2 at 0.96 million just in the US.

Mario and Zelda are the 2 games i bought for my recently acquired Switch so i'm adding to those stats 

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Just remember though, single player games are dead

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[Corporal]

Despite my being a Ninthing and by now already owning a switch, I was deeply concerned initially that a 300+USD tablet with middle of the road stats would crater so hard it would send Nintendo into a tailspin. I'm glad my lack of faith was unfounded.
Then again, I also thought PSP and 3DS would sell like shit (and that the panicked 3DS price drop would never work), so maybe I should just stay out of the prediction league as far as handhelds are concerned.

Now, let's see how the software side develops. I mean, I'm fine with just Nintendo, Indies and a bunch of tentpole releases, but more is always better. Wii gave me a whole boatload of low polish and/or low budget games that I enjoyed far more than I had any right to. So, bring back Boom Blox. MySims. And the My Life As A _____ franchise.

TLDR: &

[kingv]

The blank is for cuckold, I think, right?

[Cerveza mas fina]

How soon till Switch overtakes Xbox? I can see 2019.

[Great Rumbler]

I don't think there are any solid, recent numbers for the Xbox One, but it's probably around 25 million. Unless the Xbox One X really takes off long-term or the Switch completely craters, I could see the Switch hitting 30 million sometime next year [if not sooner].

[Trent Dole]

This thing outselling the Wii in the same time frame domestically is fucking insane.

[Great Rumbler]

Wii shipments were selling out basically as soon as they entered the store for almost a year after the console launched, so it definitely sold well below it's potential. The Switch supply has been fairly sparse, but I've seen it around in stores, so it's probably sold about as well during it's first year as it could.

[Tasty]

"Nintendo deliberately understocks their systems in order to create artificial scarcity."

[Himu]

Someone find me the post where Lager bet me Switch would not reach 40m units.

[kingv]

This thing outselling the Wii in the same time frame domestically is fucking insane.

I’m guessing this probably means that the switch outsold the PS4 in December.

I agree it’s nuts because Wii was a juggernaut, and that was partially because it was cheaper. Switch is actually more expensive than PS4 and Xbox one, and it’s still going wild.

[thisismyusername]

This thing outselling the Wii in the same time frame domestically is fucking insane.

I’m guessing this probably means that the switch outsold the PS4 in December.

I agree it’s nuts because Wii was a juggernaut, and that was partially because it was cheaper. Switch is actually more expensive than PS4 and Xbox one, and it’s still going wild.

Portable console gaming is what is selling it for most folks, I'd assume. The fact that it actually has gotten third parties (like Rocket League getting a port) helps it as well.

[CrazyDiamond]

Well let's just hope they keep at it. Both the Wii and the Wii U were launched with big promises of 3rd party support. Wii U got a couple ports of old games at the first year and then nothing

But then again if the Switch manages to retain at least part of the 3DS market it will keep doing good, and it has almost no competition on that front

[thisismyusername]

Exactly. That's why I haven't bought one yet (plus the online fee that's coming ): Third parties talked a big talk every Nintendo "cycle"/console and then dropped off the face of the earth post-year-1.

The announced ports of stuff like Doom seems to mean the attach rate for these titles must be profitable for them(?) to announce further ports.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

The Switch has had the strongest first year software lineup I've seen on a Nintendo console or handheld.  However they blew their wad pretty early with a Mario Kart, Mario, Zelda, Splatoon, and Xenoblade all within the first year.  That's going to be tough to follow up for this year or future years since it's unreasonable to expect games of those caliber and scale every year moving forward.  As long as they don't put all their eggs into Wii Fit 3 or some shit for the next holiday season, I'm sure they will be fine.

[CrazyDiamond]

This will be a lot easier to keep up now that they can focus on one console alone

They already got Kirby and Yoshi coming soon, Pokemon Switch probably later this year as usual and maybe Metroid if we get lucky. They always have a new Fire Emblem in the works, Smash 4 port might be coming and we haven't even seen the january Direct yet so they can probably hold it for at least this year

There's also the hope that one day we'll see whatever it is that Sakurai and Retro are working on

[Tasty]

What Diamond said. They have Mario and Zelda but that still leaves quite a few big guns (speaking both commercially and critically here.)

The Switch will get two generations of Pokemon (plus a bunch of spinoffs), a (unified) Smash, a new Metroid Prime, Bayo 3, Animal Crossing, Kirby, Yoshi, and honestly, probably another Mario and Zelda. The last Nintendo console success, the Wii, got two mainline games for each. There will be multiple Fire Emblem games, which is now popular in the west post-Awakening. Another New Super Mario Bros., despite the series rocky quality, would sell gangbusters.

And if they wanted, they could dredge up any of the following to pad things out: Sin & Punishment, Luigi's Mansion, Kid Icarus, Donkey Kong Country, F-Zero, Wario Land/Ware, Fatal Frame, Star Fox, Excite Bike/Truck, Custom Robo, Pikmin, Mario Party, etc. Let's also not forget that Nintendo has launched two successful all-new IPs in the last few years: Splatoon and ARMS. So there's hope there, too.

Will the third-party ports last? Maybe, maybe not. The Wii couldn't handle PS360 games to the point where it was more economical to make completely new games (Umbrella Chronicles, Dead Rising, TatsuCap, etc.) The fact that the Switch is getting Doom, etc. at all is cause for optimism. Not to mention the SMT5 exclusive lockdown.

I've always maintained that the success of the Switch could be foreseen by combining the 3DS and Wii U libraries and asking prospective console buyers if that would be good enough to buy a single system for.

Will the Switch's second year (and after) suck? Maybe. Based on history, I'd probably bet no, though. When a Nintendo system flops, it kinda flops out of the gate, and vice-versa for their successful ones. The only outlier is the 3DS, but the measures to turn around that sinking ship were unusually drastic (and not applicable to the Switch's situation, since, y'know, the Switch is the fastest selling console of all time in the United States.)

Yes, the Switch had a strong start, but that doesn't mean there's nowhere to go but down.

[Tasty]

Actually, it just occurred to me that MS and Sony "soft-splintering" their current-gen console bases with the One X and PS4 Pro could actually help the Switch, since it thrusts the concept of spec scaling onto traditionally console-only (or mainly-console) developers. In previous gens there was only one set of specs to work with per console, but not anymore.

Of course, it's easier to start with a base game and spec it up than it is to do the opposite, but who's to say the Switch won't become the "base" version with the PS4/XO a spec target above that, and the Pro/One X another notch above that?

Food for thought.

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I mean Nintendo actually practiced this the earliest of the three with the GameBoy Color upgrade, continued to the DSi and "New Nintendo 3DS" line.

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[Tasty]

One last post, but I have to comment that we're in the current "Nintendo news lull" and during this time I always see posts like "OK, well, what do they even have after 6+ months from now?"

And then there's a Nintendo Direct or E3 or some shit and Nintendo announces crazy things like Metroid Prime 4, Bayo 3, SMT5, #FE, Return of Samus, MH3U and 4 (at the same event!) etc. Stuff no one could have even imagined was in development (or exclusive to them) at all. I'd expect more stuff like that soon.

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Apologies, this is like a year of bottled-up Switch-induced Ninthingery pouring out, since until now I've been focused on the games and not the sales. But fastest-selling in the US after 10 months is a massive milestone.

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