Author Topic: The REAL Football Thread - EPL returns August 18 (Read 53226 times)

Himu · « **Reply #480 on:** June 13, 2012, 09:30:26 PM »

NETHERLANDS V GERMANY

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #481 on:** June 13, 2012, 09:40:40 PM »

well that about wraps that group up - Germany and Denmark will play out a low key 0-0, leaving Portugal the task of beating Holland - which, i want to say WONT HAPPEN but given the mood in the dutch camp? it might just

Either way, the Germans aren't stupid - they know Denmark into the knockout phase represents a much more attractive situation than having Holland or Portugal in there..... then again.... all hinges on Portugal beating the dutch to undo everything.

re: Redknapp - the whole "he's taken the Spurs team as far as they can go" - YES, that's absolutely true - the only problem is he's taken Spurs to their ABSOLUTE LIMIT. The delusion that -another manager- i.e. Moyes can somehow propel them above Man Utd, Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea etc.. ? it's stupid.

Love or hate him, Redknapp has got the team where they are and that's the peak - this has a horrible smell of Leeds United about it (who famously sacked O'Leary for -only- getting them to 3rd in the league ALL THE TIME - next manager got them relegated out of the Premiership - and THEN out of the Championship! Lol - from "finishing 3rd? not good enough" to dropping two divisions!)

Teams need to know their place - for Spurs? 5-8th is acceptable performance, anything else is a bonus. I expect a very painful couple of years for Spurs - i expect flirtation with the bottom half of the division. Especially with Moyes who has at least the backing of supporters sympathetic to his lack of funds... with Spurs? not going to happen.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #482 on:** June 13, 2012, 09:50:58 PM »

redknapp only got them1 position above what jol got them so maybe by Levy Logic© Moyes will get them one place above 'Arry.

Also the Dutch are lazy fukks. Fuck Robben also

Himu · « **Reply #483 on:** June 13, 2012, 10:10:01 PM »

Any thoughts on Group C?

Bacchus7 · « **Reply #484 on:** June 13, 2012, 10:14:39 PM »

I think Spain and Croatia through.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #485 on:** June 13, 2012, 10:16:25 PM »

Italy
SPain
Croatia
lol

Himu · « **Reply #486 on:** June 13, 2012, 10:21:03 PM »

EURO 2012 LADIES

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #487 on:** June 13, 2012, 10:21:40 PM »

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redknapp only got them1 position above what jol got them so maybe by Levy Logic© Moyes will get them one place above 'Arry.

looking at the past is a fools erand - look at Ipswich (my beautiful beloved Ipswich!) - in 2001 we finished 5th! we flirted with SECOND! on a shoestring budget but the harsh reality is you can't point back at past achievements when the league moves so quickly... the Jol team would have finished lower down the league than Harry's - though no idea what Jol would have done (he's done very well at Fulham, he's clearly a good manager... but...)

Spurs players? all going to , lol, "bale" - so the next manager is walking in to absolute hell. As i say, Moyes does well on a shoe string, completely unproven with a top 5-6 team - unless someone spectacular is lined up Spurs are fudgehumped. I will laugh myself silly if AVB is appointed.

Group C - the Irish always put one -epic- performance in but i suspect that that will be against the Italians. So i expect the following tonight:

Spain 4 Ireland 0
Italy 1 Croatia 1

With the last games going :

Spain 1 Croatia 0
Italy 1 Ireland 1

Spain and Croatia through. Italy look good, it's just whether the luck is with them but i suspect the Irish spirit + trapatoni = curse for the final game.

Himu · « **Reply #488 on:** June 13, 2012, 10:32:51 PM »

Fifstar · « **Reply #489 on:** June 14, 2012, 09:15:26 AM »

Nice game for us, although a very disappointing showing from the netherlands. Really strange that the inventors of total football played with a basically two separate teams in offense and defense. How long it took the netherlands to get the ball rolling after they got the ball was weak and they put not nearly enough pressure on us. The goal for Oranje was pretty much a great move by Persie but no good team play. Basically all the predictions how Holland was in a tactical disadvantage came true.

This leaves germany in a great position even though we could still be eliminated. I think Portugal has the advantage against Holland because they actually have a solid defense and can wait what they will do. Germany against Denmark will probably be a draw like Dcharlie said, because even though I think Denmark tactically is the worst match for Germany, I don't believe the have the power to win this. If they try to go all out, it should be easy for germany to score against them.

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #490 on:** June 14, 2012, 05:00:32 PM »

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Group C - the Irish always put one -epic- performance in but i suspect that that will be against the Italians. So i expect the following tonight:

Spain 4 Ireland 0
Italy 1 Croatia 1

sigh - it's days like this i wish i actually bet on some of these damned things - lol

Bacchus7 · « **Reply #491 on:** June 14, 2012, 05:12:50 PM »

True, nice calls!

Himu · « **Reply #492 on:** June 14, 2012, 07:31:44 PM »

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #493 on:** June 14, 2012, 08:19:31 PM »

Tonights games :

Sweden to be 1-0 up at half time, England to shade it 2-1 - with a dodgy penalty involved for a change
France 0 Ukraine 1

yes - you heard that last one correct

*ribbit*

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #494 on:** June 14, 2012, 08:42:12 PM »

i want to laugh at you but Ukraine will prob win however no way in hell England win against Sweden especially with Andy Carrol starting

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #495 on:** June 15, 2012, 01:52:25 AM »

we shall see tomorrow! there's no reason we should look at history because the whole "never beaten Sweden in 20 years" is a complete and utter red herring.

Not to discount Sweden as they aren't bad at all but from the Ukraine game there's little to suggest they will score more than 1 goal -tops-. I -can't stand- Carrol but as long as he's played as a target man then i think we can have some good chances off feeding off the wide boys.

It's unlikely to be pretty - but i expect an England performance this time.

T-Short · « **Reply #496 on:** June 15, 2012, 04:38:51 AM »

Swedish tabloid keeping the hope alive

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #497 on:** June 15, 2012, 07:29:57 AM »

Hilarious

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #498 on:** June 15, 2012, 09:06:45 AM »

Quote from: Thomas Householmes Lane on June 15, 2012, 07:29:57 AM

Hilarious

indeed - way too perfect.

Himu · « **Reply #499 on:** June 15, 2012, 09:23:02 AM »

England

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #500 on:** June 15, 2012, 04:43:39 PM »

FUCK OFF ENGLAND FUCK U DCHARLIE

T-Short · « **Reply #501 on:** June 15, 2012, 05:03:05 PM »

Nice game!

Timber · « **Reply #502 on:** June 15, 2012, 05:10:50 PM »

That was fun to watch. Not the greatest football but very energetic. Zlatan is still the most annoying dude.

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #503 on:** June 15, 2012, 05:33:57 PM »

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FUCK OFF ENGLAND FUCK U DCHARLIE

Ibra : FUCKINGS TO YOU!
Joe Hart : Have a nice flight home

T-Short · « **Reply #504 on:** June 15, 2012, 05:41:42 PM »

Quote from: Borys on June 15, 2012, 05:22:24 PM

Quote from: Hyoushi on June 15, 2012, 04:38:51 AM
Swedish tabloid keeping the hope alive

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lol

England won.

really?

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #505 on:** June 15, 2012, 05:44:50 PM »

Leave Borys alone, for Poland... there is no tomorrow.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #506 on:** June 15, 2012, 05:49:20 PM »

do the poles like the ukraines or w/e theyre called

Himu · « **Reply #507 on:** June 16, 2012, 05:57:23 AM »

I watched this goal at least 20 times on my dvr tonight trying to figure out how the fuck

The beautiful game

And personally, i'm almost more impressed by the assist. Look at that pass!

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #508 on:** June 16, 2012, 06:09:38 AM »

the best thing about the goal is the nudge to get infront of the defender by Welbeck and then sucking him so he can turn -and- backheel it in. Walcott is playing on a forwards instinct of getting to the byline and cutting it back - all the hard work is making the space down the flank in the first place, but yeah - all in all, a great goal.

p.s. why do people not like the England black kit? didn't get one myself , but got one for the boy and it's a really nice strip.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #509 on:** June 16, 2012, 03:45:38 PM »

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #510 on:** June 16, 2012, 06:17:57 PM »

getting worse with my predictions - had Greece to beat Russia, but mistakenly put Poland to beat Czech - doh. Ah well - i had the scores wrong anyways.

So yeah - as stated above - no tomorrow for Poland. Back to watching Speedway for Borys.

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #511 on:** June 17, 2012, 08:02:08 AM »

UEFA to investigate/charge English FA with "attempted pitch invasion" from the Sweden game ... trollololololol

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #512 on:** June 17, 2012, 08:47:02 AM »

I think head to head is a stupid way of advancement. RIP RUSSIA RIP ARSHAVIN

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #513 on:** June 17, 2012, 10:02:20 AM »

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I think head to head is a stupid way of advancement. RIP RUSSIA RIP ARSHAVIN

Well, for that you have to look at other factors (i'm looking at YOU, Peru....) though even that would be an unlikely event unless corruption in the game is so rife that UEFA fear it -may- happen.

Should have head to head ONLY if the goal difference is identical

Tonight? It's just bonkers - Germany on 6 points can STILL be eliminated. Holland, on 0 points, can still go through... wibble.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #514 on:** June 17, 2012, 04:20:36 PM »

lol holland

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #515 on:** June 17, 2012, 04:32:51 PM »

Well, i guess if Portugal go through it keeps the house tension nice and active....

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #516 on:** June 17, 2012, 04:36:33 PM »

germany almost bottled it ugh

Fifstar · « **Reply #517 on:** June 17, 2012, 05:33:56 PM »

So much for having a relaxing sunday. Should have scored a second goal in the first half and maybe have a player that is responsible for an 1,94 m attacker at a corner kick.

Timber · « **Reply #518 on:** June 17, 2012, 07:43:28 PM »

Looking forward to enjoying a stress-free rest of the tourney now NL has been so IGNOMINIOUSLY wiped out. No idea who to root for now. I'm leaning toward Germany, but supporting a team I think will actually end up winning is a terrifying, unfamiliar feeling for me so FUCK IT, GO GREECE!

Himu · « **Reply #519 on:** June 18, 2012, 02:17:23 AM »

LOL AT THIS TOURNEY

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #520 on:** June 18, 2012, 02:23:05 AM »

Python

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #521 on:** June 18, 2012, 10:28:18 AM »

Will laugh alot if Spain manage to get knocked out today by Croatia and Italy winning.

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #522 on:** June 18, 2012, 03:59:13 PM »

I'm completely confused by this Uefa rules bollox - Italy are top because ... oh fuck knows why. Might as well just say because Platini says so.

(because head to head... all on same points but Croatia 0 Spain 0 means that these two go below Italy even if they have better goal differences...)

Whoever thought this was a good idea is a cunt.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #523 on:** June 18, 2012, 04:30:03 PM »

Apparently theres a scenario where the world ranking could actually decide who goes forward also

spain are playing like shit.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #524 on:** June 18, 2012, 04:31:49 PM »

what the fuck was that

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #525 on:** June 18, 2012, 04:38:55 PM »

GODOTELLI

fucking cheating spanish team

Timber · « **Reply #526 on:** June 18, 2012, 04:41:22 PM »

Kinda bummed Croatia didn't make it through.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #527 on:** June 18, 2012, 05:27:13 PM »

Quote from: Borys on June 18, 2012, 03:17:34 AM

Fuck you, Himuro.

Racist!

Fifstar · « **Reply #528 on:** June 18, 2012, 06:19:27 PM »

Quote from: DCharlieJP on June 18, 2012, 03:59:13 PM

I'm completely confused by this Uefa rules bollox - Italy are top because ... oh fuck knows why. Might as well just say because Platini says so.

(because head to head... all on same points but Croatia 0 Spain 0 means that these two go below Italy even if they have better goal differences...)

Whoever thought this was a good idea is a cunt.

It's because the head to head results count before the absolute goal difference.

The qualifiers are:

1. Head to Head Result
2. Goal difference from head to head results (if 3 teams have the same amount of points, only the matches between those count)
3. Amount of goals made head to head
4. Goal difference from all matches
5. Amount of goals all matches

It's confusing but I don't think it's that bad. Results against teams with the same amount of points as you should be more important than if you have one blow out victory against a shitty team.

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #529 on:** June 18, 2012, 07:12:43 PM »

disagree Fifstar - the argument from UEFA is to protect against a "Peru 78" situation but it does open the door to final game collusion as well.

it basically goes against defensive mastery and rewards looking to goals which is, yet again, another wankstain cunt fuck spunk wank bullshit Fifa/Uefa "fucked if we know what the fuck football is about" shithead spunk chugging cock jockey ass feltching shithead choice.

see also : my biggest Fifa/UEFA "oh f*ck right off"

Last world cup : bu bu bu bu the vuvazela is how they do football, it should be allowed
next world cup : bu bu bu they have to change their LAW to allow alcohol at the ground because our SPONSORS demand it, who CARES that THATS HOW THEY DO FOOTBALL! OH ... P... FUCKING ... S... 10 grand fines for slamming advertising we never asked for in our faces... (this message is brought to you by Coca Cola, Toyota, Carling, Bud, etc etc etc)

F*CK FIFA
F*CK UEFA
F*CK PRATTINI
F*CK TWATTAA

Fuck them all - and the sooner there's a breakaway competition the better. Why the F*CK do nations constantly plunge 4-5 billion that they LOSE into a tournament when fifa/uefa walk away with 3-4 billion in profit when the f*ckers are as bent as a 5 bob note.

F*CK THE "WORLD POWERS" OF FOOTBALL - grade A c*nts to a man and the "bu bu bu we give X millions to africa etc" - oh F*CK OFF. JUST F*CK RIGHT OFF. It's all about the $$$$ and the top and bottom of it is you are making bank off being cocks - so yeah.... awaiting the hilarious "pitch invasion" punishment but i REALLY HOPE you give us a 6 point deduction of kick us out because i think we might start the revolt against your disgusting wankstained puss f*cking shite.

p.s. F*CK YOU UEFA/FIFA.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #530 on:** June 18, 2012, 07:33:05 PM »

i agree

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #531 on:** June 19, 2012, 06:13:44 AM »

Holland

We need a bigger piss emoticon for this debacle.

Fifstar · « **Reply #532 on:** June 19, 2012, 08:43:54 AM »

UEFA and FIFA are cunts, no question, but I don't see how this rule system benefits looking to goals? It just disemphasizes results against teams that are not the same point wise? In fact in your own example with a 0:0 draw between Spain and Croatia the rules would have been to the disadvantage of spain who scored the most goals in the group but who would have finished behind Italy.

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #533 on:** June 19, 2012, 09:35:21 AM »

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UEFA and FIFA are cunts, no question, but I don't see how this rule system benefits looking to goals? It just disemphasizes results against teams that are not the same point wise? In fact in your own example with a 0:0 draw between Spain and Croatia the rules would have been to the disadvantage of spain who scored the most goals in the group but who would have finished behind Italy.

um - yes - that's my point. for draws it's rewarding scoring draws ahead of no-scoring draws. The big problem i have with the rule is that in a group of 4 teams playing 3 games this is going to come up and as per your example : if Spain drew 0-0 with Croatia and Italy had won, Italy would have topped the group even though Spain had scored more goals. If Spain drew 2-2 though, then Spain top the group - Croatia go through - and ITALY go out. But yes, Spain (if it had been a draw) SHOULD have finished top. Again, the groups are too small to discount results against non-tied teams, it removes the importance of -one third- your teams performance.

Fifstar · « **Reply #534 on:** June 19, 2012, 10:27:40 AM »

I agree that in the rules are unfair if the teams that are tied for points only had draws against each other. In that case, overall goal difference should decide, no matter how the draws ended.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #535 on:** June 19, 2012, 04:41:20 PM »

england

T-Short · « **Reply #536 on:** June 19, 2012, 04:43:06 PM »

huahua

SantaC · « **Reply #537 on:** June 19, 2012, 05:22:01 PM »

i blame isaksson

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #538 on:** June 19, 2012, 06:47:25 PM »

England : Bore Bore Two

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #539 on:** June 19, 2012, 08:13:00 PM »

However... this does make me feel great....

England : Goal line technology!
Platini : ummm.... we sey NON
England : Goal line technology!
Platini : ummm.... we sey NON
England : Goal line technology!
Platini : ummm.... we sey NON
England : Goal line technology!
Platini : ummm.... we sey NON
England : Goal line technology!
Platini : ummm.... we sey NON
England : Goal line technology!
Platini : ummm.... we sey NON
England : LOL thanks Platini
Platini : ... f*ck.
England : Enjoy spain then

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