Sony Conference featuring fake Juno and real Juno (tl;dr "vita? what's that?")

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

Just got home and watched The Last of Us trailer/demo for the first time......

HOLY FUCK 

That was some amazing stuff

[Shaka Khan]

NINTENDO THE BALL IS IN YOUR COURT

Seriously. I think they'll do a better job that last year, at the very least.

[TakingBackSunday]

NINTENDO THE BALL IS IN YOUR COURT

           "You see, the barl zat wee pray wit can be shay-ahd wit many miis in zeh wara wara space.  We hope you tink this to be...vety unique.  All it takes ees ah simper fra-end code to play wit zeh barl."
                 /

[Smooth Groove]

Apparently there are like 30 vita games on the show floor.  Why they opted to not talk about them in lieu of 20 minutes of teaching kids to dispose of paper by lighting it on fire is beyond me.

Maybe they are shite?

[Madrun Badrun]

why does he have a chinese accent?

[TakingBackSunday]

He's Japanese, not Latka from Taxi

you old, taco

[Joe Molotov]

Maybe they are shite?

Could be, but a big pile of shite would still be better than deafening silence.

Yeah, I mean the fact that they spent all of 30 seconds talking about the Vita kiiiiiiinda gives one the impression they don't really care much about it. The only way they could have thrown it under the bus any further is if they were like "Vita is discontinued, PSP2 coming out next Fall!"

[Eel O'Brian]

This thing will be HP Touchpadded by next holiday season. There's some stuff still coming, but beyond Q1 2013 don't hold your breath for anything that isn't a 3DS or smartphone portover, and those will be few. I will hang onto mine for the few good games left and the stuff I already have like PS1/PSP games...but mostly because you can't get jack shit for it. It's dead. They know it, and now Vita owners know it for sure, too.

[cool breeze]

Need for Speed Most Wanted and Madden are two games that weren't mentioned.  Madden's even part of a bundle.  It's a secret to everybody.

and Sine Mora (I think it's that XBLA shooter)

but yep, Vita is dead.  I really want people to get CFW on it and at least give it a second life as an emulation station.  Now I'm really wanting that 3DS revision talk to be true.

[Akala]

now they are announcing vita games...what a trainwreck.

[Joe Molotov]

It's okay Eel, me and you man, we'll be playing PSOne classics on DAT OLED.

[Takao]

Apparently there are like 30 vita games on the show floor.  Why they opted to not talk about them in lieu of 20 minutes of teaching kids to dispose of paper by lighting it on fire is beyond me.

SCEA is attempting to sabotage this platform.

[Eel O'Brian]

I still think it's the best handheld ever made, hardware-wise. Too bad everything else seems to have been handled by the most mind-bogglingly incompetent fucktards ever.

[Takao]

Vita is the best hardware on the planet that sells the worst. Why? Even PSP sold much better.

Because the good* die young.

*PS2 excluded, though it kind of killed real SEGA

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

now they are announcing vita games...what a trainwreck.

Well at least they're announcing something.  Still think Sony's between a rock and a hard place regarding Vita.  They can't really pull the plug just yet but at the same time the company can't afford to do something like a price cut to get people to buy the thing.

Wrong product. Wrong company. Wrong time.

[Eel O'Brian]

Too expensive, bullshit proprietary memory, weird apathetic nonmarketing, $40-50 games which look too much like games you already own, any number of reasons really (but imo mostly because it's too expensive).  I didn't pay a dime for mine out of pocket, so I don't really regret it, but I sure have learned a lesson about jumping into new hardware shit at launch, especially new hardware from the Keystone Kops at Sony.

[Great Rumbler]

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[Smooth Groove]

Yeah, Vita is a shame.  Sony should have gotten commitments from major 3rd parties before releasing the system.  Also, games should have been priced at $30 max in this economy. 

[Momo]

Well I hope Nintendo makes up for all these lackluster conferences so far.

[Owl-faced Wizard]

They will fuck it up.

[Bebpo]

When was the last time anyone had a good E3?  Playstation 3 CG Killzone trailer?

[Bebpo]

I'm kind of surprised but the God of War stage demo looked fun to me.  Combat seems faster and smoother.  I think it's because I enjoy the franchise, but that looks like a fun time.

[MCD]

The Last of Us: Killing Simulator.

[Phoenix Dark]

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It's like the end of Inception. Is Luigi about to fall off right as the gif ends? Tune in tomorrow to find out

[drew]

It's like the end of Inception. Is Luigi about to fall off right as the gif ends? Tune in tomorrowo find out

:|

[Owl-faced Wizard]

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It's like the end of Inception. Is Luigi about to fall off right as the gif ends? Tune in tomorrow to find out

SPOILER:

[Oblivion]

Did people really hate Sorny's conference?

I'm trolling GAF about it, but I honestly thought it was pretty decent. And it had a minimal amount of stupidity, as opposed to MS's conference.

[Madrun Badrun]

stupidity > nothing at all

[Owl-faced Wizard]

I didn't watch either of them, but their lineups are generally pretty good for systems on the way out, I think.  There are totally games I will think about buying there.  Sony taking Vita out back and hanging it by its leash is the best news of the show so far.  Hard but had to be done.

[Bebpo]

Japanese developers are just about the only hope Vita has at this point.  TGS better show some stuff or system is PSPGo'd

[Owl-faced Wizard]

If Japanese developers are dumb enough to support a dead system, they deserve to die with it.  Unless Sony is handing out cheques - that's smart money, and I'm not about to give them stick for that.

[Cormacaroni]

If Japanese developers are dumb enough to support a dead system, they deserve to die with it.  Unless Sony is handing out cheques - that's smart money, and I'm not about to give them stick for that.

i like the cut of your jib

[Eel O'Brian]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=38538583&postcount=995

The big daddy in playstation allstars probably counts as the bioshock game for vita.

 

[magus]

did they show anything new at all? was there any square-enix announcement?

there's gotta be at least one square-enix announcement for fucking sake

[magus]

[magus]

wasn't the only new 3DS title they announced at the previous e3,luigi mansion 2?

[Fifstar]

I didn't know about that The Last Of Us game. Looks really great, at least graphics and atmosphere wise.

[fistfulofmetal]

how was the conf? i fell asleep and missed it

any archive out there?

[maxy]

Vita is the best hardware on the planet that sells the worst. Why? Even PSP sold much better.

imo

PSP sold well in the West for two reasons

1.Good third party support at the beginning(first year or two)
2.Hacked

I bought one in 2010 just cuz it had Rockstar games.

Back in 2008 when official playstation forum was still readable,people there were ready to throw their PSPs through window, disappointment level was huge.Vita is at that point right now.

Frankly,Vita looks like another PSPGo to me.

[Damian79]

Frankly,Vita looks like another PSPGo to me.

Now that is just ice cold.  Really comparing it with the psp go?

[maxy]

Yes,device that nobody wants.Neither here or there.

[maxy]

But do you want to pay for it?

[magus]

[T-Short]

Wow @ Edge's writeup

http://www.edge-online.com/news/e3-2012-sony-press-conference-report

If you own a Vita, you have our sympathy. Sony's E3 2012 conference was expected to focus heavily on its ailing handheld; there would be announcement after announcement, surely, in a bid to revive the fortunes of a console which, in its native Japan, is regularly outsold by its predecessor PSP. Instead Sony announced a fighting game we knew about last month, outed a spinoff already revealed by Game Informer, and slapped a subtitle on the Call Of Duty game they announced last year.

To be fair, SCEA president Jack Tretton went a little further than that. Vita will soon play host to the PSone classics that have been available on PSP for years, while a DLC update will let you use its touch controls on PS3's LittleBigPlanet 2. "The Vita portfolio is growing every day," Tretton insisted, "to offer something to every gamer." Okay then.

Speaking of false promises, David Cage was there, announcing Beyond for PS3. "Over the past 15 years Quantic Dream has developed unique games based on interactive storytelling and emotions," he said. "With Heavy Rain and Kara we showed how realtime 3D could be used to create even more emotional experiences." Beyond has some interesting ideas, anyway, with players controlling Jodie Holmes, played by Ellen Page, in a tale which spans 15 years. "We will lead the life of a character," Cage said, "growing with her through happy and difficult times to help her become who she is." He praised her "stunning performance" ahead of a realtime demo in which she sat stock still and said four words. It's a step up from Heavy Rain in visual terms, with full performance capture, but as always with Cage's work we just want to see how interactive it is. Pressing X to Juno won't cut it.

Then came PlayStation All-Stars: Battle Royale, now confirmed for Vita, with cross-platform play and two new characters: BioShock's Big Daddy, and Uncharted's Nathan Drake. It's easy to scoff at the game, but developer SuperBot Entertainment has packed its staff with competitive fighting game players and clearly knows what it's doing. At this stage, though, it's hard to shake the impression that this is Sony Smash Bros with super combos.

Tretton said Battle Royale's cross-platform play was a unique feature that could only be done on "the industry's best online network," which is apparently now an acceptable way to describe PSN. He hailed the fact that 80 per cent of PS3s and Vitas are connected to PSN, which we were sure was rebranded as SEN a few months back, but it seems Sony has given up on that as well.

One thing Sony hasn't given up on is indie gaming, and the rapturous applause for the merest mention of Journey was more than justified. Dyad, Papa & Yo and The Unfinished Swan are on the way, all on PSN, which Tretton said will host more than 200 downloadable new releases over the coming 12 months. PlayStation Plus is on the up, too: there was no mention of the reported cloud gaming deal which would bring streaming backwards compatibility to PS3 and Vita, but there will be 12 free games for US subscribers on the store today, including LittleBigPlanet 2, Infamous 2, and Saints Row 2. More games will be added all the time, Tretton said, but Europe tends to get short shrift on this stuff, as a thousand angry PlayStation Blog commentors will attest.

Then came the big guns, or at least, what should have been the big guns, starting with Call Of Duty on Vita. "A triple-A, firstperson multiplayer shooter in the palm of your hands, with dual analogue sticks and seamless online connectivity," parped Tretton, revealing a name - Call Of Duty Black Ops: Declassified - and little else. Assassin's Creed Liberation certainly looks the part, and giving the starring role to an Afro-French female assassin is a brave and welcome move from Ubisoft, but both games reinforced the feeling that Vita was headed the same was as PSP, with endless spin-offs from blockbuster franchises farmed out to B-teams. The required avalanche of firstparty software support was simply nowhere to be seen, and it speaks volumes that Liberation will be bundled with the new crystal white Vita. Sony has nothing else.

Attention then turned to PS3, and time seemed to slow to a crawl as we were subjected to extended gameplay demos, starting with Far Cry 3's co-op mode. Four players stood, with heads bowed and feet shoulder-width apart, for ten minutes, looking like an animatronic boy band whose batteries had run out. Assassin's Creed III's nautical battle scene looked great, but like Far Cry 3 it's a multiplatform game, its inclusion here justified by some exclusive DLC and, in Creed's case, another hardware bundle. How unexpected that Ubisoft, following its own event that closed with the intriguing Watch Dogs, would be not only the star of the show so far but also of Sony's conference.

Andrew House seemed to have drawn the short straw backstage when he appeared to talk first about a smartphone deal with HTC - best read as a tacit admission that Sony Ericsson's handsets are terrible - and PlayStation Move. Wonderbook, though, is a decent idea that should do well thanks to a deal with JK Rowling, whose Book Of Spells will be first on shelves. The PlayStation Eye seemed as flakey on stage as it does in the living room, sadly, making for an awkward demo, but we're not the target audience. Is setting fire to a book, putting out the flames with your hands and wiping soot from its pages fun? We're not sure, but the volley of on-screen disclaimers hardly engendered confidence. Hats off to Sony London Studios' Dave Ranyard for dropping the evening's finest truism, expressing his surprise that the increasingly leaky Sony had managed to keep a lid on it all.

Then came God Of War: Ascension, which began in earnest Sony's psychological experiment to see just what a room full of people will rapturously applaud if you keep them sat there for long enough. There was no footage of the series-first multiplayer mode, with game director Todd Pappy instead playing through another ten minutes or so of God Of War's decade-old square-square-triangle combat. The same as ever, then, with the bonus niggling sense that they'd stripped back the HUD for the demo and there'll be many, many more QTEs in the final game. Applause.

Then, at last, came The Last Of Us, which at first glance appears to be as profoundly linear as Naughty Dog's Uncharted games but does things a little differently, with improvised weaponry and genuine tension as the two protagonists inched through a derelict house packed with bandits. Joel slammed an enemy's face into a sideboard, to troublingly rapturous applause. At the demo's end, he took a foe's head clean off with a shotgun, and the crowd went wild. Tretton: "There's another mindblowing example of the incredible talent at Naughty Dog."

And that was your lot. No true surprises, no grand new announcements, no disruptive cloud gaming deal. Just more of the same as Sony, like Microsoft, sought to paper over the cracks as it builds up to next gen. At least the focus was on games. "PlayStation continues to be the epicenter of gaming," Tretton said. "The journey has been fun but I promise: the best is yet to come."

House went even further: "At PlayStation we're always thinking about the future. We understand the way we game is changing: the way we play and interact, the way content is delivered to you. We're going to lead that future. I hope you're as excited as we are about the future." We would be, Andy, but for the moment we're wondering why we spent £220 on a controller for LittleBigPlanet 2.

 

[Momo]

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[MCD]

DAT ENDING

[pilonv1]

Edge were pretty harsh on Microsofts conference too.

[AdmiralViscen]

Lol, for the first 7 pages I didn't get how a steering wheel could be ass to ass. Then I saw it

[tiesto]

Pretty much "meh" all around from me... I never got into Heavy Rain and was waiting to see gameplay in that Juno game... no Last Guardian, no Versus, no Vita megatons, no new ThatGameCompany title, and that whole book thing that took forever. The only game that looked any bit decent was The Last Of Us, which basically looked like a more grounded Uncharted in a post-apocalyptic "The Road" type setting. At least the game had a HUD/lifebar in it though.

Am I the only one totally sick of Assassin's Creed and God of War?

[AdmiralViscen]

Wait it's called psn again? Lol

I haven't used my ps3 for games since they changed it to sen, so I guess im ok with it

[Takao]

"After the press conference ended, I asked a representative from Sony Computer Entertainment America why the briefing didn’t feature more PlayStation Vita titles. I was told there was only so much they could pack into an hour press conference and there would be more PlayStation Vita titles to see at Sony Computer Entertainment’s booth at E3."

Fuck off SCEA, you spent what felt like a half hour on that book thing.

Wait it's called psn again? Lol

I haven't used my ps3 for games since they changed it to sen, so I guess im ok with it

It was always PSN. PSN is just a part of SEN like Music Unlimited, and Video Unlimited.

[archnemesis]

The PS3 service never changed name from PSN.

Edit: I see Takao got it covered.

[Flannel Boy]

What the fuck is this shit

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Quality looks like something Madcatz would make, not Sony.

Or fleshlight

[Flannel Boy]

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[cool breeze]

Point is, Sony could have and should have shown off more games.  Like, look at Gravity Daze.  Excellent game, wholly Vita exclusive, releasing next week, not even a goddam mention from Sony.  Show Metal Gear, show Madden or Need for Speed, show anything.  Make it look like you know there's a problem and care even a little.

There wasn't even a reel of Vita games.  It's not that Vita doesn't have games, I mean, it doesn't, but Sony didn't even make an effort to show what little it has.  This is the company that kept showing the PS2 until 2009 or 2010.  The company that kept pushing MGS4 at E3 after its release.  With the Vita, Sony couldn't be arsed to slap together small clips of games.  Gravity Daze, Soul Sacrifice, Jet Set Radio, um, Secret Vita Game.  Instead it looked Sony abandoned the system big time.

Also amazing that neither Sony nor Microsoft announced a price drop or hinted at next gen.  That Mario Party gif is surprisingly apt.

[demi]

But guys, the E3 conference is totally about us, the people who criticize what they say, who won and lost E3... strangely ironic of course from Sony

[Takao]

Sony usually does price drops at Gamescom, no?

[Eel O'Brian]

Oh, fuck, I just thought of something.  As I mentioned earlier, I've been playing the LittleBigPlanet beta on Vita. As far as I can tell, with the exception of some MP kinks and a few connectivity glitches, that game is done.  I mean, they could probably ship it within a couple of weeks if they wanted, it's so done.  Nothing shown about it onstage, nary a mention of it, particularly a release date.  Yet they made a distinct bullet point of using your Vita to control LBP 2, and how there's going to be DLC specifically tailored to the Vita with "an all-new story, costumes, props, stickers" etc.

I think I know what that DLC is going to be. It's gonna be what used to be LBP Vita. After that nonshowing, I could totally see it being quietly cancelled, with all assets shifted over to PS3 as that LBP 2 DLC pack Tretton was talking about.

[Takao]

Oh, fuck, I just thought of something.  As I mentioned earlier, I've been playing the LittleBigPlanet beta on Vita. As far as I can tell, with the exception of some MP kinks and a few connectivity glitches, that game is done.  I mean, they could probably ship it within a couple of weeks if they wanted, it's so done.  Nothing shown about it onstage, nary a mention of it, particularly a release date.  Yet they made a distinct bullet point of using your Vita to control LBP 2, and how there's going to be DLC specifically tailored to the Vita with "an all-new story, costumes, props, stickers" etc.

I think I know what that DLC is going to be. It's gonna be what used to be LBP Vita. After that nonshowing, I could totally see it being quietly cancelled, with all assets shifted over to PS3 as that LBP 2 DLC pack Tretton was talking about.

Yeah, no. They just released a new trailer for it this morning:



For what it's worth, Sony and their third party partners have been sitting on quite a few completed Vita games/apps for a while.

[Eel O'Brian]

trailers get released all the time for games that are eventually cancelled