Author Topic: Steam Sale thread - CONSUMERISM ITT (Read 82194 times)

Tasty · « **Reply #360 on:** July 15, 2012, 05:59:59 PM »

Himu-kun gifted me some games.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #361 on:** July 15, 2012, 06:39:43 PM »

to anyone who wants a game based on Game of Thrones, buy Mount and Blade. It's seriously the closes thing you're gonna get.

Himu · « **Reply #362 on:** July 15, 2012, 06:44:01 PM »

You should state which M&B game.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #363 on:** July 15, 2012, 06:47:16 PM »

It depends on whether you want guns or not. With Fire and Sword has old timey pistols and muskets. Warband does not.

You can skip the first since both are uniformly superior.

Warband is probably the best best tho.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #364 on:** July 15, 2012, 08:56:20 PM »

Went ahead and picked up L.A. Noire while it was still $7.50. So far I've put an hour and a half into it and I'm really enjoying it. Maybe it's the setting more than anything else really, but I don't mind the slow pace or the issues with the interrogation [though I can see how the later would annoy people, sometimes it's hard to figure out what the game wants you to do]. Anyway, I certainly don't regret buying it.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #365 on:** July 15, 2012, 09:03:25 PM »

I'm probably one of the few here who ended up enjoying it overall. I think enjoying the setting and playing it to see the story unfold rather than playing it to enjoy it will help how you perceive it. And for ~$5 there's a good amount of content.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #366 on:** July 15, 2012, 09:17:02 PM »

Got Bastion.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #367 on:** July 15, 2012, 09:17:57 PM »

Quote from: pilonv1 on July 15, 2012, 09:03:25 PM

I'm probably one of the few here who ended up enjoying it overall. I think enjoying the setting and playing it to see the story unfold rather than playing it to enjoy it will help how you perceive it. And for ~$5 there's a good amount of content.

I can definitely see the problems that a lot of people had, but there not really bothering me too much so far. I like driving around and searching the crime scenes and piecing together the evidence, all that stuff. I love the setting and stories, too, reminds me of The Naked City [which is actually referenced in one of the DLC cases] a movie I really enjoyed. Maybe if I'd paid $60 and been really hyped, the problems would be a bigger deal, though.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #368 on:** July 15, 2012, 09:19:42 PM »

I bought Monkey Island 2 remake despite not liking Monkey Island because STEAM SALE

Himu · « **Reply #369 on:** July 15, 2012, 11:16:08 PM »

Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on July 15, 2012, 09:19:42 PM

I bought Monkey Island 2 remake despite not liking Monkey Island because STEAM SALE

Monkey Island 2 remake is MUCH better, trust me.

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #370 on:** July 15, 2012, 11:19:06 PM »

Wait, is Bastion good? Looks like some Boreans own it and it's metacritic score is 86. Looks alright, but I'm a bit full up on console-ish RPGs from this sale

Also, don't forget to vote Dead Space 2 folks!

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #371 on:** July 15, 2012, 11:46:13 PM »

Quote from: Mamacint on July 15, 2012, 11:19:06 PM

Wait, is Bastion good? Looks like some Boreans own it and it's metacritic score is 86. Looks alright, but I'm a bit full up on console-ish RPGs from this sale

Also, don't forget to vote Dead Space 2 folks!

Giant Bomb really liked it and it was only a couple of dollars so I sprung on it.

etiolate · « **Reply #372 on:** July 15, 2012, 11:49:14 PM »

Bastion is good.

archie4208 · « **Reply #373 on:** July 15, 2012, 11:51:30 PM »

Quote from: Mamacint on July 15, 2012, 11:19:06 PM

Wait, is Bastion good? Looks like some Boreans own it and it's metacritic score is 86. Looks alright, but I'm a bit full up on console-ish RPGs from this sale

Also, don't forget to vote Dead Space 2 folks!

Bastion is a shittier Ys with THE NARRATOR SAYS WHAT YOU'RE DOING XD.

Buy Ys instead.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #374 on:** July 15, 2012, 11:54:27 PM »

The gameplay in Bastion is OK. However they shove a lot of obnoxious story in all around you that's reasonably well told but just too silly to be taken seriously. Overall I finished it and promptly forgot about most of it.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #375 on:** July 16, 2012, 12:15:13 AM »

I just finished American Nightmare. That was easily worth the $3.75

Himu · « **Reply #376 on:** July 16, 2012, 12:38:04 AM »

Basion is okay but worth a low price definitely.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #377 on:** July 16, 2012, 02:36:22 AM »

Dead Space 2 won, goes on sale in about 30 minutes. Worth a pick up?

archnemesis · « **Reply #378 on:** July 16, 2012, 02:41:32 AM »

It's just more of the same. If you enjoyed the first game then it's worth it.

Edit: To the people above, Mount & Blade: Warband is the game to get. If you want guns, get the expansion for it instead of With Fire and Sword.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #379 on:** July 16, 2012, 02:56:47 AM »

Going to have a crack at Crusader Kings II tonight after the gym. Probably should wait till an evening when I have more time but I've been reading about it all afternoon and I'm too excited.

Timber · « **Reply #380 on:** July 16, 2012, 04:48:30 AM »

Bring me the heads of them what did not vote Just Cause 2.

Himu · « **Reply #381 on:** July 16, 2012, 04:53:13 AM »

Quote from: Timber on July 16, 2012, 04:48:30 AM

Bring me the heads of them what did not vote Just Cause 2.

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BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #382 on:** July 16, 2012, 06:29:55 AM »

Got the Moutn & Blade bundle. Don't know ANYTHING about these games, other than that they're large scale fantasy action games. Hope they don't suck!

archnemesis · « **Reply #383 on:** July 16, 2012, 06:43:49 AM »

They're amazing games! The first one, Mount & Blade, is obsolete so you can jump straight to Warband. The tutorial should be enough to get you started.

MrSingh · « **Reply #384 on:** July 16, 2012, 06:57:34 AM »

"The Community Choice is not available in your region"

And I voted for Dead Space 2 too. EA you are bastards.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #385 on:** July 16, 2012, 08:43:15 AM »

Quote from: BobFromPikeCreek on July 16, 2012, 06:29:55 AM

Got the Moutn & Blade bundle. Don't know ANYTHING about these games, other than that they're large scale fantasy action games. Hope they don't suck!

they're kind of janky. but it's like primo role playing in a medieval world with awesome realistic caste system and combat.

Fifstar · « **Reply #386 on:** July 16, 2012, 09:27:27 AM »

Still have lots of games from the winter sale that are unplayed because I still haven't built the computer to run them, so I'm going slow right now, only bought Grimrock so far.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #387 on:** July 16, 2012, 12:20:16 PM »

Can't wait for Driver San Francisco to get a flash deal or somefin

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #388 on:** July 16, 2012, 01:17:44 PM »

Prole gifted me Secrets of the Magic Crystal

Can't wait to groom some ponies

Himu · « **Reply #389 on:** July 16, 2012, 01:22:51 PM »

I am starting to doubt gifting certain people stuff because I never see them on Steam or playing a game so i feel like I wasted my money gifting them something despite them spending at least 50+ bucks in this sale. It is like they never play games on Steam but have no problem spending hundred on the sales. It makes no sense to me.

On the other hand, this is what finally made me make a backloggery account.

cool breeze · « **Reply #390 on:** July 16, 2012, 01:26:43 PM »

Is Dear Esther any good? the two reviews I see refer to it as a "sad-em-up"

And I was planning on getting Rage but it might be cheaper during the quakecon sale.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #391 on:** July 16, 2012, 01:40:02 PM »

bought Dear Esther

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #392 on:** July 16, 2012, 01:54:53 PM »

Quote from: Linkzg on July 16, 2012, 01:26:43 PM

Is Dear Esther any good? the two reviews I see refer to it as a "sad-em-up"

You basically walk around and look at stuff for an hour. It's pretty.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #393 on:** July 16, 2012, 02:11:19 PM »

Dear Esther is worth $2.50.

I bought Metro 2033. And Wizorb, lol.

tiesto · « **Reply #394 on:** July 16, 2012, 02:16:00 PM »

Wizorb is pretty cool but the stages stretch on a bit too long. One of the few games that does "retro style" graphics right - clean, with their own character, and with some great animations.

What is Dear Esther? Graphic adventure?

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #395 on:** July 16, 2012, 02:22:47 PM »

Dear Esther is like an art installation. You walk through it for an hour and it's VERY pretty and is more interested in evoking a theme and mood than forming a coherent narrative, and then it's over. It is VERY pretty however.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #396 on:** July 16, 2012, 02:45:55 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on July 16, 2012, 01:22:51 PM

I am starting to doubt gifting certain people stuff because I never see them on Steam or playing a game so i feel like I wasted my money gifting them something despite them spending at least 50+ bucks in this sale. It is like they never play games on Steam but have no problem spending hundred on the sales. It makes no sense to me.

i know, like legendary, right

Himu · « **Reply #397 on:** July 16, 2012, 02:58:02 PM »

i gifted that to another person!

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #398 on:** July 16, 2012, 03:14:06 PM »

Fuuuu I just got Dear Esther a month or two ago.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #399 on:** July 16, 2012, 03:54:26 PM »

Still loving the shit out of Space Marine...I just got to the part where you kill orks

spoiler (click to show/hide)

That's a joke, son

[close]

etiolate · « **Reply #400 on:** July 16, 2012, 04:21:15 PM »

Why is KOTOR a daily deal? It's been 75% for like the entire sale.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #401 on:** July 16, 2012, 04:32:29 PM »

Quote from: Sho Nuff on July 16, 2012, 03:54:26 PM

Still loving the shit out of Space Marine...I just got to the part where you kill orks

spoiler (click to show/hide)
That's a joke, son
[close]

How's the combat? I specced Stealth/Diplomacy so I am mostly inching through levels in between talking down the bosses. Do the bosses even join your squad if you just shoot them?

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #402 on:** July 16, 2012, 04:34:39 PM »

I someone wants to be my best friend, they can gift me Blades of Time.

Don't ask me why I want it, because I don't know. I mean, it's terrible, I know it's terrible, but I still want to play it.

Raban · « **Reply #403 on:** July 16, 2012, 04:36:38 PM »

Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on July 16, 2012, 02:22:47 PM

Dear Esther is like an art installation. You walk through it for an hour and it's VERY pretty and is more interested in evoking a theme and mood than forming a coherent narrative, and then it's over. It is VERY pretty however.

Dear Esther gave me a completely fresh perspective for video games. I really wish more developers would follow their experiment and simply remove all mechanics from your game if the focus is story. I think games like Call of Duty, Uncharted, Max Payne 3, et al. would benefit from being more like Dear Esther, and contain nothing but character movement while everything in the game automatically plays out. You get all the headshots, you come close to death a couple of times, and it's over in a few hours.

I feel like that's a more honest approach than their feeble attempts to shoehorn very shallow gameplay mechanics into something that is obviously meant to be a technical and artistic showpiece.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #404 on:** July 16, 2012, 04:51:22 PM »

I am loving Wizorb at $1.79. As long as you know what it is (a very good, very standard Arkanoid game with cute pixel art) and what it isn't (a game with RPG elements, a game with spells or mechanical advances over the standard Arkanoid game), you'll get your $2 worth. It also requires you to actually play correctly and line up your shots with some precision, which is nice.

etiolate · « **Reply #405 on:** July 16, 2012, 04:54:26 PM »

oh yah i wanted to grab wizorb

So the RPG stuff adds nothing to the game?

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #406 on:** July 16, 2012, 04:56:04 PM »

Quote from: etiolate on July 16, 2012, 04:54:26 PM

oh yah i wanted to grab wizorb

So the RPG stuff adds nothing to the game?

It's not really "Arkanoid with RPG stuff" so much as it's "Arknoid with a Wizard fighting a Dragon painted on the side of it's van".

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #407 on:** July 16, 2012, 05:00:20 PM »

Quote from: Raban on July 16, 2012, 04:36:38 PM

Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on July 16, 2012, 02:22:47 PM
Dear Esther is like an art installation. You walk through it for an hour and it's VERY pretty and is more interested in evoking a theme and mood than forming a coherent narrative, and then it's over. It is VERY pretty however.

Dear Esther gave me a completely fresh perspective for video games. I really wish more developers would follow their experiment and simply remove all mechanics from your game if the focus is story. I think games like Call of Duty, Uncharted, Max Payne 3, et al. would benefit from being more like Dear Esther, and contain nothing but character movement while everything in the game automatically plays out. You get all the headshots, you come close to death a couple of times, and it's over in a few hours.

I feel like that's a more honest approach than their feeble attempts to shoehorn very shallow gameplay mechanics into something that is obviously meant to be a technical and artistic showpiece.

Don't take this personally, but people like you are shitty for videogames. Watch movies for stories.

cool breeze · « **Reply #408 on:** July 16, 2012, 05:01:05 PM »

Quote from: Joe Molotov® EDGE™ on July 16, 2012, 04:56:04 PM

Quote from: etiolate on July 16, 2012, 04:54:26 PM
oh yah i wanted to grab wizorb

So the RPG stuff adds nothing to the game?

It's not really "Arkanoid with RPG stuff" so much as it's "Arknoid with a Wizard fighting a Dragon painted on the side of it's van".

There's a bit more than that. You have magic powers that use up mana, shops and currency, boss fights, and a town you can pay to rebuild.

It reminds me most of Thunder and Lightning on the NES, if anyone played that. imo that and shatter are the best versions of breakout/arkanoid.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #409 on:** July 16, 2012, 05:04:36 PM »

Joe is correct, there is no "RPG stuff." Don't believe Linkzg's lies.

You can spend your score to rebuild a town. THAT'S IT.

It's still totally great, it's just an RPG coat of paint on a mechanically ordinary, extremely well-executed Arkanoid clone.

archie4208 · « **Reply #410 on:** July 16, 2012, 05:17:41 PM »

~~Is Steam down? I can't launch any games.~~

Edit: nevermind

cool breeze · « **Reply #411 on:** July 16, 2012, 05:18:15 PM »

I can't tell if you're entirely serious because early today I saw someone ask what the keys were for. There are shops you can enter to buy power ups. I'm not disagreeing that it's not an rpg or anything. Believe Howard Alan Treesong.

Raban · « **Reply #412 on:** July 16, 2012, 05:31:17 PM »

Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on July 16, 2012, 05:00:20 PM

Don't take this personally, but people like you are shitty for videogames. Watch movies for stories.

You are mistaken, I wouldn't personally enjoy a game like that. I don't consider a narrative to be important or even necessary in the ingredients for a great video game.

What I'm saying is that it seems to be a popular choice among AAA game developers to fancy telling a story over building an experience around game mechanics. There is a thread on the first page about this very thing. I don't find it as offensive as Ruzbeh does that games are doing this, just dishonest, as I said before.

If your game is about a story, don't let me play it. Gameplay and story have conflicting goals. A story wants to move forward, a game wants to create adversity. I'm happy that a game like Dear Esther exists, because it shows the further side of the spectrum of what is possible in interactive entertainment. It's like the inverse of Tetris. Tetris is all game, no story. Dear Esther is all story, no game. Both are great for different reasons.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #413 on:** July 16, 2012, 05:47:09 PM »

etiolate, if you say something nice about Diablo III I will gift you Wizorb. ;D (add me on Steam, raketemensch)

etiolate · « **Reply #414 on:** July 16, 2012, 05:48:37 PM »

hahaha

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #415 on:** July 16, 2012, 05:48:41 PM »

Raban- I don't understand how that's not basically a movie that you just happen to move an avatar around in. Games should offer some sort of challenge, whether it be of the reflexes or the mind. Something that doesn't shouldn't be called a "game" in my opinion, and the people who make and enjoy them should be drummed out of the hobby.

etiolate · « **Reply #416 on:** July 16, 2012, 05:52:57 PM »

I like the Demon Hunter class!

As for Dear Esther, it is what it is. I enjoyed it for what it is. It's an interactive poem with associative narrative.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #417 on:** July 16, 2012, 05:54:41 PM »

Quote from: Raban on July 16, 2012, 05:31:17 PM

Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on July 16, 2012, 05:00:20 PM
Don't take this personally, but people like you are shitty for videogames. Watch movies for stories.

You are mistaken, I wouldn't personally enjoy a game like that. I don't consider a narrative to be important or even necessary in the ingredients for a great video game.

What I'm saying is that it seems to be a popular choice among AAA game developers to fancy telling a story over building an experience around game mechanics. There is a thread on the first page about this very thing. I don't find it as offensive as Ruzbeh does that games are doing this, just dishonest, as I said before.

If your game is about a story, don't let me play it. Gameplay and story have conflicting goals. A story wants to move forward, a game wants to create adversity. I'm happy that a game like Dear Esther exists, because it shows the further side of the spectrum of what is possible in interactive entertainment. It's like the inverse of Tetris. Tetris is all game, no story. Dear Esther is all story, no game. Both are great for different reasons.

The problem is your taking your personal opinion and then sort of grafting it onto the public which doesn't really work without some data to back it up. What you described might work for you but I have a feeling it would not work for the masses.

There are cinematic games that lower the gameplay quotient to achieve a better story element. Heavy Rain whatever somebody thinks about it I believe does a good job of this. I could add games like the Walking Dead or Journey and some others to the list. But there is no current evidence to suggest that the people who play Call of Duty, Gears of War, Halo, Uncharted, etc are looking for this. They like the action mixed with setpieces and linearity. Because forum types may not like it doesn't mean the masses don't.

I also wouldn't necessarily use that thread made by Ruzbeh to denote anything other than nostalgia and an inability to accept that the world changes and things aren't always going to be what you want them to be.

In full disclosure never played Esther although I've heard it described enough from the types who love game as art.

Timber · « **Reply #418 on:** July 16, 2012, 06:02:57 PM »

Dear Esther is nothing like a movie.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #419 on:** July 16, 2012, 06:08:26 PM »

Quote from: Timber on July 16, 2012, 06:02:57 PM

Dear Esther is nothing like a movie.

Which gives me even less confidence then that whatever it is, is related to how the masses want to enjoy mainstream games.

I think Raban and even Ruzbeh in his very misguided way are trying to reflect their personal distate for a mainstream, linear, big budget style game. Which is fine on a personal level. I just think you have to sort of leave it as a personal critique. Rather than extrapolating it to the masses so easily.

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