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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #8400 on: November 23, 2019, 09:21:24 PM »
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« Reply #8401 on: November 23, 2019, 09:28:31 PM »
Heh, they mentioned Britt Baker on air and shown her after Adam Cole got drilled into the table.

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« Reply #8402 on: November 23, 2019, 11:46:16 PM »
You know, Sin is actually a pretty solid show. It was probably the best WCW PPV since Spring Stampede 1999, which isn't saying much since WCW PPVs had been atrocious since then, especially all of 2000. There's a real sense of enthusiasm from the talent and announcers, and most everything at least has logical booking and storytelling even if the execution isn't flawless.

The only thing that really doesn't make sense and is real WCW fuckery is the entire main event scene, where Flair is CEO and keeps booking Steiner in disadvantagous matches and Jeff Jarrett is Scott's buddy but keeps getting booked into forced situations to turn on him or otherwise cause conflict, and then there's a mystery man that keeps attacking Sid so Flair brings a mystery man himself who also beats up Sid and then it turns out the whole thing was a month(s) long ruse and Flair/Steiner were in cahoots the whole time.

The thing that really stands out is how terribly WCW handled Sid's injury. Because he needed to be pinned, they just let him hang out in the ring with his leg dangling, the "match" continued, Scott Steiner at one point actually steps on his broken leg, and it's a good 5-6 minutes before a trainer is in the ring checking on him. WWE would have immediately ended the match by either just stopping it or having Steiner quickly pin him and do the mystery surprise after.

One thing that stood out was the crowd seemed unusually hot for dying days WCW, and my suspicions were confirmed where there's a brief part in the main event where the fake crowd noise completely cuts out and the audience is as silent as you'd expect :dead


Helms/Chavo was a stand out match, Jung Dragons vs Karagias/Knoble was pretty good, and DDP/Nash vs Palumbo/O'Haire was a really well thought out/laid out match with Nash working about as hard as you're going to see him after 1997.

How dare you speak of the Sid injury without posting a video of it. Don’t pretend like you don’t know the TOS.
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #8403 on: November 23, 2019, 11:48:26 PM »
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« Reply #8406 on: November 24, 2019, 10:05:58 AM »
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UPDATE: On his post-show media conference call, Triple H addressed Baker being shown on the feed. He said the person in the truck who used the shot didn’t know she worked for a rival promotion. Once she’d been shown however, they had to mention it, which is why Mauro said her name. Triple H said he’d never want to put her in a position to get heat for appearing on a WWE show.

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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #8407 on: November 24, 2019, 01:42:39 PM »
They should have given her a "Britt Baker- She's a dentist" chryon.
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #8408 on: November 24, 2019, 02:51:23 PM »
Was there a more comically bad performer in wrestling than Lex Luger in 1999-2001? It's like he completely forgot how to do anything in his one job he'd been at for about 15 years. His actual wrestling is at an all time worst where he's clearly not even attempting to put any effort into anything, his promos are at an all time worst where he's constantly stumbling over lines and stuttering, just being on camera he's constantly looking directly into the camera and at directors during segments, always missing his cues. It's really fascinating.


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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #8409 on: November 24, 2019, 06:32:39 PM »
So, uh, was Lex Luger ever actually any good? I only know him from his first WWF run and late 90s WCW, but he always came across as a trash-tier everything outside of looks, and he even looked like shit by the time of that WCW run.

Oh, it’s Survivor Series day? Should I watch? I haven’t followed at all :cornette :checkit :hhh
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #8410 on: November 24, 2019, 07:12:04 PM »
Time for Survivor Series to not be as good as Wargames

King, who is looking at NXT as "the underdogs?"  :doge

So if it means anything, NXT got one point and Raw got one point on the pre-show- Lio Rush won his match and THE VIKING EXPERIENCE got their win.
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« Reply #8411 on: November 24, 2019, 07:30:11 PM »
He was very solid in 1987-1991ish, at least very carryable and willing to work. HE was also a bad promo, and his WWF run was bad, but I did quite enjoy the Sting/Lex dynamic in the early Nitro days, and I'm still not sure why he was so fucking over in 1997 besides the torture rack was cool and he had a rad entrance theme. Anything after the Wolfpac, he's just so awful, but it turned a corner in late 1999 where he started to become entertainingly bad and by the time 2001 comes around he's fascinating because I don't think I've ever seen a guy so blatantly fuck off like that with no worries of repercussions or professional pride.

If any particularly good clips cross yr mind, please share if you can. I generally love it when people stop giving a fuck at all in this manner.
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #8412 on: November 24, 2019, 07:38:18 PM »
Don't buy the NXT women's team working together as if last night's Wargames match never happened.  Zero in-fighting?  We got it on the Raw side.

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« Reply #8413 on: November 24, 2019, 07:40:23 PM »
That match was a cluster fuck as expected, weird to have NXT use cheap heel tactics to steal a win and then act like heels afterwards too.

NXT has been heel-ish in the shows leading up to this PPV...but it still doesn't make sense after Takeover.
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #8414 on: November 24, 2019, 07:43:21 PM »
As opposed to Lex Luger circa late 1999-2001, Seth Rollins is trying so hard right now but failing at being entertaining.
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #8415 on: November 24, 2019, 07:44:09 PM »
The crowd despises Rollins  :lol

This would be a good time to have him turn heel and cost his team the match or even switch to another brand or something...but they won't do that.
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #8416 on: November 24, 2019, 07:49:34 PM »
Yeah- since when does Vince listen to the crowd reactions?  :lol
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #8417 on: November 24, 2019, 07:51:07 PM »
Holy shit you weren’t kidding :lol



This is great! And Lex Luger in a FUBU jersey? That’s peak WCW. WCW in a nutshell.
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #8418 on: November 24, 2019, 07:57:54 PM »
Jesus everyone is so gigantic in these old WCW clips.
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #8419 on: November 24, 2019, 07:59:01 PM »
While I know the WWE are bad at getting faces over I do wonder if the now smarky crowd that will always boo whichever babyface wwe chooses regardless if they suck or not is also an issue.

Smarky crowds are more likely to cheer heels I figure.

They boo the guys who are pushed as "superman good-guys" and crammed down their throats.  Happened with The Rock but he got heel turns to get the crowd back on his side, then continued with Cena, Reigns, and now Rollins. 
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #8420 on: November 24, 2019, 08:00:29 PM »


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« Reply #8421 on: November 24, 2019, 08:06:03 PM »
Why was this match triple threat rules but not the women's team match?  ???
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« Reply #8422 on: November 24, 2019, 08:08:25 PM »
Uh...Career Builder ad?  Now Mattel?  Total Divas?   Is this Raw?

Where's
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« Reply #8423 on: November 24, 2019, 08:15:58 PM »
Jesus everyone is so gigantic in these old WCW clips.

Lex, Buff, Steiner, Kronik, Goldberg, The NBTs, Mike Awesome, Rey Jr., Konnan, are all ridiculously juiced up. Lance Storm swears he never did steroids but that seems hard to believe to me.

Who wasn't on the juice back then?  Jericho?  Flair?
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #8424 on: November 24, 2019, 08:27:53 PM »
Is Mauro not on the show because Corey Grave subtweeted him? :lol

What happened?
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« Reply #8426 on: November 24, 2019, 08:31:16 PM »
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UPDATE: Mauro Ranallo did not appear on Sunday night’s Survivor Series after he deleted his Twitter account, possibly over the tweets from Graves. Michael Cole addressed Ranallo’s absence from the show, saying that Ranallo was so passionate at NXT Takeover: WarGames that he “blew his voice out.”

ORIGINAL: Mauro Ranallo has deleted his Twitter account following posts to the platform made by Corey Graves that may have been critical of his commentary work at NXT Takeover: WarGames. Ranallo called last night’s NXT Takeover show alongside Nigel McGuinness and Beth Phoenix, and Graves posted to his Twitter account suggesting that Pheonix and McGuinness were either not getting a chance to talk or weren’t getting their deserved praise. He also suggested that there were “far too many” references to Chicago rap, as you can see below.

Ranallo has been open about his living witb bipolar disorder, which was the focus of Showtime’s Bipolar Rock N’ Roller documentary. Frank Shamrock, who is Ranallo’s manager and friend, replied to Graves with a retort about the Smackdown announcer’s tweets:

https://twitter.com/frankshamrock/status/1198673278367346688
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #8427 on: November 24, 2019, 08:39:12 PM »
Cole fucking up: "A spectral, demonic creature.  The Miz."

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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #8428 on: November 24, 2019, 08:41:27 PM »
ENOUGH WITH THE FUCKING RED LIGHTING
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #8429 on: November 24, 2019, 08:52:46 PM »
Glad that mess is over.  Hope this Brock match is a quick squash on Mysterio so we can move the fuck on already.
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #8430 on: November 24, 2019, 08:55:49 PM »
More like hopefully Rey cripples Brock and we don't have to see Brock until Wrestlemania

Either way works!
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« Reply #8431 on: November 24, 2019, 08:56:25 PM »
Wait...is the Brock/Mystero match going to be the main event??
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #8432 on: November 24, 2019, 09:01:04 PM »
The crowd changing "WALTER" is a unique chant, Nigel?
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #8433 on: November 24, 2019, 09:04:39 PM »
WALTER eliminated that fast  :lol

Whose fucking idea was it to put Ricochet in a body suit :wtf

Nightwing outfit!
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #8434 on: November 24, 2019, 09:05:54 PM »
Ricochet wears the most awful shit. Does he dress himself or does Vince do this because the kids love the supes? It’s so clearly terrible that I can’t believe someone under the age of 70 would think this would go over.

Keep that fanteen wank shit on AEW.
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #8435 on: November 24, 2019, 09:08:35 PM »
He's only worn the full bodysuit like this like 2-3 times counting tonight.  :doge
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« Reply #8436 on: November 24, 2019, 09:09:26 PM »
I like that they teased Owens having some loyalty to NXT, but then Ciampa eliminates him.  :lol
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #8437 on: November 24, 2019, 09:11:37 PM »
Damien did nothing- why was he on the team?
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #8438 on: November 24, 2019, 09:21:21 PM »
Why would Roman take out Corbin?  :lol :rofl
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« Reply #8439 on: November 24, 2019, 09:22:35 PM »
Also lmao at smark central Chicago cheering for Roman and booing Rollins.

The lesser of two evils, there- they're booing both of them now!
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« Reply #8440 on: November 24, 2019, 09:26:15 PM »
Is that chant "pro wrestling is boring?"  I can never tell.
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #8441 on: November 24, 2019, 09:27:59 PM »
Crowd ecstatic that Rollins is out  :lol
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #8442 on: November 24, 2019, 09:42:13 PM »
Mexican Joker
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #8443 on: November 24, 2019, 09:50:36 PM »
I haven’t been paying much attention: is Rey intentionally dressed like Doink or is this just another unfortunate costume decision?
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« Reply #8444 on: November 24, 2019, 09:53:21 PM »
I haven’t been paying much attention: is Rey intentionally dressed like Doink or is this just another unfortunate costume decision?

Joker costume.
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #8445 on: November 24, 2019, 09:54:00 PM »
OK, that shit is over with...for now.  Dirt sheet rumors about no titles changing hands and all feuds continuing appear to be true.  :-\
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« Reply #8446 on: November 24, 2019, 10:01:12 PM »
I haven’t been paying much attention: is Rey intentionally dressed like Doink or is this just another unfortunate costume decision?

Joker costume.

I don’t think you can do a Joker look in wrestling without it reading as Doink.
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« Reply #8447 on: November 24, 2019, 10:03:55 PM »
I haven’t been paying much attention: is Rey intentionally dressed like Doink or is this just another unfortunate costume decision?

Joker costume.

I don’t think you can do a Joker look in wrestling without it reading as Doink.

True, but it's Joker.  He does comic book-themed ring gear. 

Hey, Ricochet is ripping him off!
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #8448 on: November 24, 2019, 10:05:00 PM »
Does he? I don’t think I ever knew him for that, but I wasn’t watching wrestling at all during his big WWE years.
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« Reply #8449 on: November 24, 2019, 10:16:01 PM »
https://www.thesportster.com/wrestling/rey-mysterio-comic-book-costumes/




The Silver Surfer one
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Meanwhile, Ricochet is a confirmed weeb since he has had manga-themed gear.
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #8450 on: November 24, 2019, 10:24:44 PM »
Shayna wins, NXT wins, Becky is a sore loser
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #8451 on: November 24, 2019, 11:05:43 PM »
Holy shit, I’ve only been idly paying attention and I just realized this random hillbilly he’s talking to is the fucking Undertaker. I don’t think I’ve seen him out of character before. He sounds like just another teenage sheep rapist.
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« Reply #8452 on: November 24, 2019, 11:18:07 PM »
Holy shit, I’ve only been idly paying attention and I just realized this random hillbilly he’s talking to is the fucking Undertaker. I don’t think I’ve seen him out of character before. He sounds like just another teenage sheep rapist.

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« Reply #8453 on: November 24, 2019, 11:28:46 PM »
Holy shit, I’ve only been idly paying attention and I just realized this random hillbilly he’s talking to is the fucking Undertaker. I don’t think I’ve seen him out of character before. He sounds like just another teenage sheep rapist.

 :confused

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Ergh, sorry, whatever Steve Austin show was on after SS. He was interviewing Taker out of character.
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #8454 on: November 25, 2019, 12:11:13 AM »
Maaaaaaaaan, you can tell Vince is desperate to murder AEW with all of the finishes tonight, the only real match NXT lost was the men's survivor series match, and they even had the Fist Bump of Mutual Respect™ between Reigns and Keith Lee after the match.
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« Reply #8457 on: November 25, 2019, 04:21:25 PM »
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On the latest Wrestling Observer Radio, Dave Meltzer discussed the Mauro Ranallo situation and how Ranallo deactivated his Twitter and ended up not working the Survivor Series PPV despite being scheduled for it after a tweet directed to him by peer Corey Graves. Meltzer noted that Ranallo and his friend/manager Frank Shamrock were very upset but he didn’t quit and things are “fine” between Ranallo and WWE and that he is expected to be there on Wednesday in his regular spot at the NXT commentary booth. Meltzer went on to say that WWE wasn’t happy with Graves though he wasn’t taken off of Survivor Series while the company is sympathetic towards Ranallo and don't want him to quit or leave.

Graves for his part must have heard the report by Meltzer and had this to say:

https://mobile.twitter.com/WWEGraves/status/1199016032452653058

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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #8458 on: November 25, 2019, 05:51:54 PM »
You can tell that some people (probably Vince) are really high on Rhea and Keith Lee, and I've never been more terrified in my life for wrestlers I'm a fan of to get a push because 1) this is latter days of the Roman Empire Vince, so it will suck and 2) nice things NEVER HAPPEN FOR ME OR BY EXTENSION PEOPLE I LIKE, so
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« Reply #8459 on: November 25, 2019, 06:50:04 PM »
I think you underestimate Vince's desire to give Keith Lee a goofy dancing gimmick

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