Game

[Smooth Groove]

Is Knack 1080P and 60 fps?  Aside from resolution, noticeably better graphics than Ratchet/Clank PS3 games?

[Bebpo]

30fps I think (been playing a bunch of games tonight, don't remember).  Looks sharper & more detailed with higher poly environments and characters than R&C but environments are more empty for sure.  It's honestly more of an XBLA/PSN $20 game.

[Purple Filth]

Really liking the PS4, DS4, UI and all that, but I wish I had another game to play besides Resogun.  I have to see what's worth getting.  And lots of what I like is probably going to be on the xbone as well; some will be better, some will be worse.  Reasonably happy with the features they're pushing.  Anyway, random thoughts on various games and apps:

-Resogun is fucking awesome.
-Trine 2 looks close enough to my memory of the PC version.  You can draw shapes with the touchpad, which might be the only use the touchpad I've seen.
-Warframe has an FOV slider, no autoaim by default, options to turn off bloom, DOF, and motion blur, and one time text popped up asking me to hit the tilde key.
-If you beat Sound Shapes on Vita/PS3 and sync to Sound Shapes PS4, there's a minute of trophy notifications and you get a third set.
-Playroom is practically a trailer for the camera if you don't own the camera.  Can't delete it.

just saw a clip on the GB stream that made sharing kinda worth it 

this?

Yep

for it to be that easy was pretty damn cool

[Bebpo]

AC4 is great but it looks pretty rough.  It's weird.  AC3 on PC, while being a dogshit game and fugly as hell, still did look a .5 gen ahead of the AC2 engine stuff.  Everything just seemed rounder and smoother with better lighting and animations.  AC4 PS4 looks like...AC2gen again with the AC3 animations.  Can't tell exactly what it is as the framerate is solid and the textures are sharp (even at 900p).  I think the lighting is just non-existent and that's what making things look flat and lacking the atmosphere.

After they patch in AA maybe it'll look closer to AC3 PC with some smoothness to the look.  Maybe not.  I think maybe they just downgraded their new engine after they made it for AC3 in order to accomodate a larger scope open world game.

[mjemirzian]

Knack is pretty solid so far.  At least it makes a better impression than Killzone.  It's nice to play a challenging action game where you have to learn the enemy patterns and dodge them.  Basically it feels like Devil May Cry cute little kid edition with the right stick dashing and enemies that with unique attack patterns that kill you in 3 hits.

No, it's more like God of War simplified to 3 buttons, almost no combos, no QTEs, and no special weapons/abilities. At least not until you unlock those gadgets, which I have no clue how they're used. Yes it's very simple and repetitive. Even if you're good enough at action games that it poses little challenge, it's still kinda boring. The 5-6/10 scores seem appropriate. It seems more like a $20-30 indie game than an AAA game.

Resogun is pretty awesome on the other hand.

[Eel O'Brian]

My review of Blacklight: Retribution:

"Timed out while connecting to servers. Please wait and try again later."

[Eel O'Brian]

I found myself still preferring r1 and l1 for aim and shoot in Killzone.

I'm gonna go buy a cheapish stereo headset later on today (can't use the USB one I already have  ), so I'll try the twitch thing out then

My favorite thing so far is being able to plug stereo headsets into the game controller for game audio - the sound is really decent, and when you unplug it automatically reverts back to TV/receiver sound

Although I don't understand why they just didn't enable bluetooth stereo so I could use the same $50 pair I've had for 3 years and can use on everything else I own 

I guess if I had to give it a number rating, I'd go with 9/10 hardware, 7.5/10 software - there are some nagging software bugs, but nothing that can't eventually be fixed through updates. Hardware is great, though. They really nailed the controller. Although I prefer the stick placement on the 360, this feels a lot better in my hands.

Wtf, I tried using a pair of crappy Motorola headphones and got no game audio. Sould I try iphone ones? What are the restrictions?

You have to enable the audio to the headphones in the settings. Once you do that, whenever you connect your headphones it will auto-switch audio to those, and back to the TV when you unplug.

[fistfulofmetal]

The framerate in Contrast 

[Eel O'Brian]

Got my first system freeze, was downloading updates for Warframe and the shit just hard locked, had to pull the plug to reboot

then it chastised me for unplugging, like i had a fucking choice

looks like this is probably gonna be a thing now for the new consoles

welcome to PC gaming, console owners

[Rufus]

Strangely this might make the Steambox more appealing since they share more disadvantages now, while PCs are more powerful and upgradeable.

[Eel O'Brian]

Wait, are they seriously trying to get $50 for Angry Birds Star Wars

[Eel O'Brian]

i see no way to adjust your microphone levels like you could in ps3, or any way of even checking if your microphone is working at all other than using the system voice commands

jesus fucking christ, sony, how could you be so fucking stupid about some of the most basic shit

[maxy]

http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Launch-Edition/product-reviews/B00BGA9WK2/ref=cm_cr_dp_qt_hist_one?ie=UTF8&filterBy=addOneStar&showViewpoints=0

Look at the ratings

black&white

hahaha

This is so typical for gaming population,black or white only.

[fizzel]

Got my first system freeze, was downloading updates for Warframe and the shit just hard locked, had to pull the plug to reboot

then it chastised me for unplugging, like i had a fucking choice

looks like this is probably gonna be a thing now for the new consoles

welcome to PC gaming, console owners

Was watching the GiantBomb stream last night, all this multitasking shit they're trying to do makes me wanna throw in a few sticks of DDR 3 and an intel CPU. 

[cool breeze]

It's quick in normal use, but does get choppy when downloading a bunch of stuff.  The UI is pretty nice, if a bit simple and dull.  Some options are poorly conveyed or outright missing (like Eel mentioned).  Like, say you want to manually delete video captures.  The capture library you get to after pressing 'share' doesn't let you delete videos.  Instead you have to go to the home menu > profile > captures > and there's another capture library where you can delete videos.  Or that games run in the background, so you can watch netflix as a match is loading and double tap home to switch between programs.

I think the Xbox One UI is sleeker and gives off a better illusion of newness, especially with snap.  But there's a surprising amount of parity between the two this time.  Both controllers are good, both UIs are nice and have comparable features, etc.  imo, neither seems to have a distinct advantage or disadvantage.   PS3 always felt dated/older compared to the 360.  In some areas PS4 will still feel dated, but not in all areas.

Oh, and the touchpad doesn't seem integrated into the UI at all.  Unless I'm mistaken, you can't even use the touchpad on the web browser.  Would be nice to swipe though the games list and whatnot.

Got my first system freeze, was downloading updates for Warframe and the shit just hard locked, had to pull the plug to reboot

then it chastised me for unplugging, like i had a fucking choice

looks like this is probably gonna be a thing now for the new consoles

welcome to PC gaming, console owners

Apparently Warframe is problematic because it updates on its own server.  Blacklight Retribution seems to be similar and that didn't work online at all.  Offline bot matches ran poorly and had bad tearing.  Both felt like straight up PC games dumped onto the PS4, for better or worse.

[fizzel]

Oh, and the touchpad doesn't seem integrated into the UI at all.  Unless I'm mistaken, you can't even use the touchpad on the web browser.

 

So what is it used for currently?

[cool breeze]

Trine 2 and Sound Shapes use it, and fwiw, it works well in both.  It'd be great for grid inventory systems, if developers trusted players to manage more than two weapons.

It's strange.  PSN supports 2000 friends in one giant list you scroll through with the d-pad.

[Purple Filth]

My review of Blacklight: Retribution:

"Timed out while connecting to servers. Please wait and try again later."

Yea GB couldn't get it working either

[fistfulofmetal]

Jesus, Killzone is pretty poor. It feels incredibly rushed.

I'm waiting for the shoe to drop and the reveal that the good guys are actually the bad guys. It's just so damn cliche and over the top and I CAN'T believe it's meant to be taken seriously.

[Bebpo]

Why do you think it's rushed?  Seems like a very polished game that was just incredibly badly designed and written.

[Shaka Khan]

Yeah, the UI is starting to pale in comparison to the xbone's (going by videos), so they weren't kidding when they said their highest priority was to get games on it up and running. I don't see anything that can't fixed if they react fast enough, but it's pretty clear that Microsoft gave the OS a higher priority, and I fully expect their UI to be more mature when it's released— in terms of design, because performance-wise it'll run like dogshitte for the remainder of the year.

[Mupepe]

Why do you think it's rushed?  Seems like a very polished game that was just incredibly badly designed and written.

so like every other killzone game?

[fistfulofmetal]

Why do you think it's rushed?  Seems like a very polished game that was just incredibly badly designed and written.

It doesn't seem polished at all to me. Scripting and objective transitions are awkward and abrupt. Level design is very rudimentary and pretty boring all-told. The best thing about the game is the face of the half-Helghan chick.

[fistfulofmetal]

The space ship level was so fucking boring. It's supposed to be spoooooky with atmosphere. Except it's just dark and I can't see shit and have no idea where to go.

[Trent Dole]

http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Launch-Edition/product-reviews/B00BGA9WK2/ref=cm_cr_dp_qt_hist_one?ie=UTF8&filterBy=addOneStar&showViewpoints=0

Look at the ratings

black&white

hahaha

This is so typical for gaming population,black or white only.

Most of the one stars look like they're written by people with defective units.

[Bebpo]

Fistful, Fryinghigh, Methodis

Add me and I will join you in some multiplayer games at some point in the future - "bebpo"

Yeah, the UI is starting to pale in comparison to the xbone's (going by videos), so they weren't kidding when they said their highest priority was to get games on it up and running. I don't see anything that can't fixed if they react fast enough, but it's pretty clear that Microsoft gave the OS a higher priority, and I fully expect their UI to be more mature when it's released— in terms of design, because performance-wise it'll run like dogshitte for the remainder of the year.

I dunno, function and speed >> bells & whistles for me.  I honestly can't think of how a UI can be better for a console than this besides Folders and download pausing.  The UI is the most impressive part of the PS4 imo.

[Himu]

What is so impressive about xbone UI? It is the same 360 random tiles UI we currently have.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

bu bu bu the slides

added u back bebpo

[Eel O'Brian]

It'd be nice to snap in YouTube or a browser window during a game if you get stuck, instead of backing out of the games altogether

[fistfulofmetal]

Bought Need for Speed. Did something else while it downloaded/installed. Booted up the game and did the tutorial for cops/racers. Went to START the actual game...


20 minutes later waiting for it to ACTUALLY install.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Where the fuck is Kosma at?

It's time for him to take his whippings.  The PS4 launch is a disaster, I'm glad I opted out of this stupid and shitty console generation.

[fistfulofmetal]

Best use for the light bar on the DS4.

Shining it at the front of the console so I can fucking see where anything is.

[Bebpo]

Where the fuck is Kosma at?

It's time for him to take his whippings.  The PS4 launch is a disaster, I'm glad I opted out of this stupid and shitty console generation.

lol, what.

This is probably the best launch in ages.  System is fantastic and runs great.  Lots of good games.  Everyone is having an great time outside of the few defective units.  Probably gonna sell boatloads too as they shipped a ton and sold out.

[Rahxephon91]

Yeah the launch seems pretty solid.

[Eel O'Brian]

Yeah, online stuff being jammed and busted is pretty typical for any launch, but for the most part I'm fairly satisfied with it. There are some bewildering omissions like not being able to adjust Mic levels, no game organization, and not being able to use the touchpad in the UI, but there's also neat shit like effortless streaming and being able to plug any old headset into the controller for game audio/chat.

[Eel O'Brian]

I'd imagine there's gonna be a lot of stuff interface-wise that XB1 does better, but I wasn't about to pay $100 extra for that fucking camera.

[fistfulofmetal]

Streaming is the most important feature added to these consoles. Streaming has always been held back because it required a sometimes complicated setup due to either software conflicts or needing additional hardware. Being built right into the boxes is going to do a lot to bring it even MORE into the mainstream.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Well, fuck you I'm going to keep hating anyway

[cool breeze]

saw this posted on gaf and was wondering if anyone else has a ps4 with vitiligo.  mine has some on the top.

Streaming is the most important feature added to these consoles. Streaming has always been held back because it required a sometimes complicated setup due to either software conflicts or needing additional hardware. Being built right into the boxes is going to do a lot to bring it even MORE into the mainstream.

yeah, I'm legitimately surprised Sony went in hard with it.  A year or two ago I posted about how I thought this would be Microsoft's big push for the Xbox.

and does Nvidia's shadowplay work with streaming?

[headwalk]

Where the fuck is Kosma at?

It's time for him to take his whippings.  The PS4 launch is a disaster, I'm glad I opted out of this stupid and shitty console generation.

lol, what.

This is probably the best launch in ages.  System is fantastic and runs great.  Lots of good games.  Everyone is having an great time outside of the few defective units.  Probably gonna sell boatloads too as they shipped a ton and sold out.

i think this would be more effective if you ended every sentence with an exclamation mark.

[demi]

Streaming is the most important feature added to these consoles. Streaming has always been held back because it required a sometimes complicated setup due to either software conflicts or needing additional hardware. Being built right into the boxes is going to do a lot to bring it even MORE into the mainstream.

Nailed it - awesome addition especially for me. Now I can show everyone the slow life sucking grind of achievements.

[patrickula]

This launch lineup would be pretty great for anyone who doesn't have a good gaming PC hooked up to their TV (which I do).

The streaming thing is impressing more then I expected. A super cool feature that will probably seem essential from now on.

[fistfulofmetal]

and does Nvidia's shadowplay work with streaming?

Not currently. It's supposed to in the future, however.

[maxy]

http://kotaku.com/ps4-blue-light-of-death-has-no-clear-fix-yet-1465979487

Bricks can be useful...

That biscuit dude also has one,I think.

[maxy]

Hot bricks,it seems

http://news.yahoo.com/playstation-4-launch-results-in-series-of-game-thefts-213852936.html

Video game fans have been highly anticipating the launch of the PlayStation 4, which was finally released to the public on Friday. However, because of the high demand, access to the new video gaming system was largely limited to those customers who pre-ordered their $400 PS4 months in advance.
 

But that didn’t stop a number of criminals from robbing PlayStation owners just minutes after they left the store with their merchandise in hand.

In Bakersfield, California, 19-year-old Marcus Jenkins and 20-year-old Maurice Boyd, were arrested after allegedly robbing a customer who was leaving the story shortly after midnight on Friday with his PlayStation 4 .

"For the thieves, that's going to be a hot item for them, as well," Bakersfield Police Sgt. Joe Grubbs told Bakersfield News. "Either for selling, or then 'gifting' it."

The Bakersfield News says a similar attempted robbery occurred as another customer was walking out of a Best Buy. Two armed men wearing ski masks approached the customer. But somehow, the customer was able to foil the attempted robbery and call police.

Thousands of customers lined up on Thursday in advance of the PlayStation 4 release and industry experts say they expect demand for the new system will exceed availability for several months. The Xbox One is set to release next week and has also already sold out pre-sale orders through online retailers like Amazon and Best Buy.

Meanwhile, in Kansas, 22-year-old Jordan S. Vincent made it home with his new video game system. However, at around 1:30am, he says that a number of unknown assailants forced their way into his home and stole his new PlayStation 4 .

Police say the shopping thefts aren’t limited to the new PlayStation launch. Business Insider reported that more than 100 million shoppers are vulnerable to identify theft on Black Friday and police say the risk remains high throughout the holiday season.

[Purple Filth]

Streaming is the most important feature added to these consoles. Streaming has always been held back because it required a sometimes complicated setup due to either software conflicts or needing additional hardware. Being built right into the boxes is going to do a lot to bring it even MORE into the mainstream.

As said before how easily GB shared that dumbass moment in their launch stream sold me on this streaming from consoles thing.

[maxy]

[Mupepe]

I never understood the shit Manabyte got on this forum until now. When he likes something he's a loud obnoxious shill. Jesus.

[Himu]

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What?

[Shaka Khan]

Never realised Mana is such an sfag.

He's not, he's simply a feg.

[Tasty]

I never understood the shit Manabyte got on this forum until now. When he likes something he's a loud obnoxious shill. Jesus.

You never saw his MoS posts?

[Mupepe]

I never understood the shit Manabyte got on this forum until now. When he likes something he's a loud obnoxious shill. Jesus.

You never saw his MoS posts?

I guess not.

[AdmiralViscen]

So has anyone actually tried Contrast yet?

What about Warframe? Is that a legitimate game?

[fistfulofmetal]

So has anyone actually tried Contrast yet?

What about Warframe? Is that a legitimate game?

Warframe is awesome.

[Rahxephon91]

A friend brought over his PS4 yesterday and all he had to play was Warframe.

Did'nt interests me, but it did'nt look terrible. Looked like solid Third Person shooter co-op game. Some of the F2p hooks seemed annoying though.

[Quaker]

A friend brought over his PS4 yesterday and all he had to play was Warframe.

He didn't even have Resogun?

[fistfulofmetal]

So how's everyone analog sticks doing? People are having problems with them wearing really bad.

They definitely feel a bit too grippy and textures which can lead to quicker wear.

The rubber on my 360 controller's left stick is almost completely worn off to the plastic but then again that controller is 7+ years old.

[mjemirzian]

[bork]

So has anyone actually tried Contrast yet?

Just briefly.  Framerate was all over the place.  Don't really have anything to say about it.

It's out on Steam, too, BTW.

What about Warframe? Is that a legitimate game?

It's OK.  Basically a 3rd person shooter with 4P co-op that plays kind of like Mass Effect 2.  Don't like the way melee is handled.

A friend brought over his PS4 yesterday and all he had to play was Warframe.

WTF?   

So how's everyone analog sticks doing? People are having problems with them wearing really bad.

They definitely feel a bit too grippy and textures which can lead to quicker wear.

The rubber on my 360 controller's left stick is almost completely worn off to the plastic but then again that controller is 7+ years old.

Both controllers I have are holding up just fine.

[Bebpo]

My controllers are holding up fine but I don't like the new analogs all that much surprisingly.  Fine for right stick with precise movements for aiming but left stick when I just want to hold UP to move forward my thumb starts to slip because of the new style.  I think the analogs are too small to do the concave design like X360.  Need to be just a bit larger.  I am a small dude with small hands but my thumbs feel too big for the DS4 which is weird.  Absolutely love the d-pad though.  Best one in ages.  Fighters are going to be awesome on this if you're not a stick guy like me and my friends.


I heard Contrast is a good 3-5 hour puzzle platformer adventure game with a framerate that moves around on PS4.  I watched my gf play a little and it looked nice/smooth at least at the start.