Author Topic: Yet another GAF thread - I still haven't got over it :( (No spergfits allowed)  (Read 5506750 times)

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Himu

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How does anyone identify with any of these video game characters? They live in their own world of power fantasy. I do not identify with Ryo Hazuki and he's still my fave game character.

I don't think you have to go through what people go through to identify with a character. If the character is written well (lol vidya but keep with me) then no matter what situations they are in, no matter how fantastical or out of reach for you to experience, you can sympathize with their plight and decisions. I'm never going to be Tony Soprano but god damnit if David Chase didn't write a character I felt compelled to watch every Sunday.

This is an expansion upon my post and I agree. I don't relate to Walter White at all but find him a. Compelling character. I think there's a line between "identify with" and "find a character compelling", and I wish people would explain would stop saying the former. And if they do identify with them they'd at least say why.
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brawndolicious

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The media in the 90s painted gangstas as cool as shit. At least in America. West coast gfunk made everyone wanna rock that gangsta shit. It defined an entire decade of music.
See I never got this at all, to me it's always been Mafia/Yakuza/Triads and such being the cool kids and black people being the brainless thugs. There hasn't really been a black guy in movies that's made me say "shit i wanna be that guy" ever, so every-time I'm playing with a black guy or in a hood setting I'm typically not happy as I am invariably comparing my said black avatar to the previous non good portrayals.

Ganstas has never been cool here, or at least in my circles, so making me play as one isnt going to happen.

Watch something like Menace II Society or Boyz in the Hood if you want a serious portrayal of ganster life that will teach you all about how the cycle of drug crime and poverty ruin the hood. But CJ iss a GTA character and meant as a caricature, the game makes fun of every aspect of it's setting just like every single other GTA before it. It's not meant for you to feel like you're really a gang-banger.

However, I will say that GTA4 was weird since they made you play as a grumpy Russian with little sense of humor but they were actually trying to go with a more realistic story then. The GTA4 expansions were much less serious though.

There really is no "sympathetic" playable character in the GTA franchise, but so what?`

Himu

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Yeah not to mention the gangsta setting is far in the distance soon after the game starts. Gangsta stuff takes up such a small part of SA's story and a big part of its theme is that CJ does everything people in the hood dream of: owning a garage full of fast cars, a music producer, multimillionaire but they tell him, fuck that, the hood and gang banging is what matters. GTASA is a pretty good critique as much as it is a tribute.
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Himu

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I hate typing on a phone.
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Raban

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The media in the 90s painted gangstas as cool as shit. At least in America. West coast gfunk made everyone wanna rock that gangsta shit. It defined an entire decade of music.
See I never got this at all, to me it's always been Mafia/Yakuza/Triads and such being the cool kids and black people being the brainless thugs. There hasn't really been a black guy in movies that's made me say "shit i wanna be that guy" ever, so every-time I'm playing with a black guy or in a hood setting I'm typically not happy as I am invariably comparing my said black avatar to the previous non good portrayals.

Ganstas has never been cool here, or at least in my circles, so making me play as one isnt going to happen.
Watch Blade II.

Himu

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Doesn't want to be Simon Phoenix. :what Or Morpheus :what
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brawndolicious

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When I was little, I could always see myself becoming Blank Man.

nudemacusers

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Not even Mandingo or Sweet Sweetback, Momo?
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Momo

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The media in the 90s painted gangstas as cool as shit. At least in America. West coast gfunk made everyone wanna rock that gangsta shit. It defined an entire decade of music.
See I never got this at all, to me it's always been Mafia/Yakuza/Triads and such being the cool kids and black people being the brainless thugs. There hasn't really been a black guy in movies that's made me say "shit i wanna be that guy" ever, so every-time I'm playing with a black guy or in a hood setting I'm typically not happy as I am invariably comparing my said black avatar to the previous non good portrayals.

Ganstas has never been cool here, or at least in my circles, so making me play as one isnt going to happen.
Watch Blade II.
Snipes :-\

Doesn't want to be Simon Phoenix. :what Or Morpheus :what
Snipes :-\ , second fiddle

When I was little, I could always see myself becoming Blank Man.
I loved Blank Man :rejoice

Shadow Mod

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So this dude just flamed out in a thread about middle aged man raping a 14 yr old and only getting 30 days because he felt there was too much of a circle jerk.

 :what

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=663281

Raban

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Blade 2 is pure fucking shit.
:lol I guess it's my guilty pleasure? I have a lot of fun watching Snipes. And hey, Blade 2 is directed by Guillermo Del Toro :bow2

Shadow Mod

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I once had a venom mask and my friend drove me around blasting Confusion with me dancing in the passenger seat.

Himu

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Oscar I only asked because as Momo has shown people have completely different definitions of what perceive that word to mean in this context.
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Raban

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You didnt recommend Blade 1 or Blade : Trinity.

Blade II :holeup
:piss Blade: Trinity
Blade 1

parallax

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You didnt recommend Blade 1 or Blade : Trinity.

Blade II :holeup

blade trinity is the worst shit ever. worst villain, worst cast, hell they didnt even use the werewolf ending. that movie was shit on ice

nudemacusers

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lol this miley twerk thread has become hilarious

girls like dudes butts?! I thought only gay guys liked butts!!?  ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
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Himu

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Yeah devo and I are having a ball.
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Shadow Mod

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lol this miley twerk thread has become hilarious

girls like dudes butts?! I thought only gay guys liked butts!!?  ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

Ugh. Just ugh.

Women became sexual beings, when did this happen?

Positive Touch

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cj goes through the same shit as 10000 other videogame heroes; only difference is hes black and part of his story relies on early-90s gangsta cliches. tell me momo, what other games have you been so turned off by the main character (specifically not being able to identify with the character) that you stopped playing the game?
pcp

parallax

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lol this miley twerk thread has become hilarious

girls like dudes butts?! I thought only gay guys liked butts!!?  ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

its like they dont know any women. if i hear about john cena in a banana hammock again im gonna throw my phone into a blender

Positive Touch

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be honest, oscar. its because his va was black, wasnt it?
pcp

parallax

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be honest, oscar. its because his va was black, wasnt it?

wait, does that mean oscar didnt like living single?

nudemacusers

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yeah the goregasm and visuals of that game were cool but the writing was some ten year old level shit. hermes' dialog was absurdly tame and ineffectual considering the number of titties and bodies I churned through getting there.

well, all the dialog was lame. 
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Himu

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Living Single RIP

:(
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Momo

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cj goes through the same shit as 10000 other videogame heroes; only difference is hes black and part of his story relies on early-90s gangsta cliches. tell me momo, what other games have you been so turned off by the main character (specifically not being able to identify with the character) that you stopped playing the game?
Please note for SA it was a combination of setting and char, mostly setting. Eh, can't really think of another game I had this reaction with, the only other game I remember stopping because of a bullshit char + setting I didnt want is Bioshock. 

Positive Touch

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perhaps you would like bioshock infinite better
pcp

Himu

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Momo, Bioshock franchise is garbage. I wish I could trade that shit on steam just to get it off my game list. Can't blame you. Positive is trying to trick you into playing Infinite.
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Positive Touch

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jesus christ himu congratulations on completely missing the fucking joke
pcp

Momo

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Momo, Bioshock franchise is garbage. I wish I could trade that shit on steam just to get it off my game list. Can't blame you. Positive is trying to trick you into playing Infinite.
Don't worry, he will fail. There is a 0.5% chance that I will ever play BioShock again, and that 0.5% is on the off chance that it will get me laid somehow.



Crash Dummy

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Blade 2 is pure fucking shit.
i'll take blade ii over trinity any day, even a topless ryan reynolds doesn't save it for me

Crash Dummy

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there are 85 guests viewing the board right now, is that a record?

hampster

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I refuse to believe someone could watch Enter the Dragon and not want to be Jim Kelly

RIP :'(
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Rufus

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I almost stopped playing God of War 3 because I was completely sick of Kratos's bullshit.

I should have stopped, in hindsight.
Kratos was a fucking joke character that didn't even work as an anti-hero five minutes into the second game. He's also dumb as a stack of bricks.
Athena warns him to stop leveling Rhodes. "Olympus will be angry, and stop being a choleric asshole in general, you prick." He doesn't listen, so she tries to stop him by animating the Colossus of Rhodes. Zeus steps in and offers help. "Grab this here sword and put all your power into it, it will make you stronger. Some-hooow." Dumb fuck Kratos, instead of smelling the trap, actually herp derps his way over there, castroids himself and only then notices the heinous betrayal. Zeus decends, takes the sword, says something about him not being a danger anymore and impales him with the thing for another trip to Hades. "Wuh? Zeus no Kratos friend? Kratos mad! Smash Zeus! Smash Olympus!"
This is what an ending looks like, but it was the start of the game. Time for more revenge, now revenger than ever. It was a fun game, but good lord do I want to piss in anyone's face that ever thought he was a good or even cool character. He just about worked in the first game because he was sort of kind of tricked. That's some motivation at least.

ToxicAdam

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there are 85 guests viewing the board right now, is that a record?

Naw, I'm sure when GAF has it's annual E3 bedshitting there were more ppl lurking here.


Mupepe

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Ya'll are fruit cakes.

Adebisi from Oz :bow2

How could you not want to be him?? 
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Besides the heroin addiction but that's pretty cool too tbh
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Rufus

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That's the only way you should, but it never struck me as having any self-awareness whatsoever, much less a sense of humour.

Stoney Mason

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I never understood the appeal of Kratos either. I didn't understand if he was supposed to be a bad-ass or was the whole thing a satire of a dumb-ass.


thisismyusername

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I never understood the appeal of Kratos either. I didn't understand if he was supposed to be a bad-ass or was the whole thing a satire of a dumb-ass.

Why not both?

nachobro

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Blade 2 is pure fucking shit.
Best superhero movie ever made, without question.

Polari

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=78336369&postcount=81

...and then the other side of the story comes out, lol.

brawndolicious

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When I was little, I could always see myself becoming Blank Man.
I loved Blank Man :rejoice

Well slap me around and call me Susan. This makes me want to find the old VHS I taped it with, has real 90's commercials on it.

Blade 2 is pure fucking shit.
:lol I guess it's my guilty pleasure? I have a lot of fun watching Snipes. And hey, Blade 2 is directed by Guillermo Del Toro :bow2

It think it's harder for some people to like it because it's too much of a genre movie. At least the first one felt pretty original when it came out.

king of the internet

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I never understood the appeal of Kratos either. I didn't understand if he was supposed to be a bad-ass or was the whole thing a satire of a dumb-ass.

That's probably because you're not a 14 year old boy (I'm guessing). Any adult man who finds Kratos cool should be thrown into an active volcano.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=78336369&postcount=81

...and then the other side of the story comes out, lol.

I like most of the mods on GAF, but I've always found to Blackace to be a pretty bad poster. He doesn't seem very bright at all.
« Last Edit: August 28, 2013, 12:25:39 PM by king of the internet »

StealthFan

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Esch thinks Trinity is better than 2 :what

I didn't know such an opinion existed.
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Mupepe

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Blade II is the best Blade (not saying much) based on eye sex alone.

Cascade

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SquiddyCracker has been juniored. :PP

king of the internet

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SquiddyCracker has been juniored. :PP

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=663565&highlight=

This one must have done the trick. What a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.

ToxicAdam

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SquiddyCracker has been juniored. :PP

:praise

Boss Doggie next, pls
« Last Edit: August 28, 2013, 02:50:31 PM by ToxicAdam »

Eli Gulgin

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SquiddyCracker has been juniored. :PP

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=663565&highlight=

This one must have done the trick. What a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.

It's about time. I won't be missing his stupid threads. The mods should junior dumb folk more often (and not unjunior them for bullshit reasons like Ninjaboi).

Shadow Mod

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It's about time. I won't be missing his stupid threads. The mods should junior dumb folk more often (and not unjunior them for bullshit reasons like Ninjaboi).

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=78687461&postcount=9395


thisismyusername

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I like most of the mods on GAF, but I've always found Blackace to be a pretty bad poster. He doesn't seem very bright at all.

Him and Bish are the BLACK DEFENSE FORCE. Say anything bad and they'll probably ban you. But Bish is a bit more "leeway" about it, he'll give you the rope so you tie it and then hang yourself. Blackace is more a gun to the head guy. :/

Blade II is the best Blade (not saying much) based on eye sex alone.

I don't remember eyesex. Remind me.

Himu

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Crash Dummy

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ain't nobody got time for that

Eli Gulgin

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It's about time. I won't be missing his stupid threads. The mods should junior dumb folk more often (and not unjunior them for bullshit reasons like Ninjaboi).

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=78687461&postcount=9395

 :comeon :what :picard

Momo

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Ya'll are fruit cakes.

Adebisi from Oz :bow2

How could you not want to be him?? 
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Besides the heroin addiction but that's pretty cool too tbh
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FUCK. On cold days I used to wear a hat precariously on the edge of my head like Adebisi, it always fell off :(

Adebisi :bow

Adebisi doesnt fit into the narrative of making the american hoodlum cool though :/

Mupepe

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True.  But he's still gangsta as fuck.  He runs the American hoodlums in Em City (for 2 seasons) so it still counts. 

Best line from the show:
How do you keep that little hat on your head?

Shadow Mod

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OZ was so hilarious.

My favorite Adebisi storyline is when some other dude from his country pops up and he starts freaking out.

Eli Gulgin

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Adebisi :bow2 Best evar

nudemacusers

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I love the part where he buttfucked that one dude.

Or was that another character.
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