Mattrick: Fortunately we have a product for people without internet

[Huff]

Are they even launching in Japan?

.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Shit is gonna bomb soooooooooooooooooooooooo hard.

[Flannel Boy]

You also have to live in one of these countries, too

Xbox One to only work in certain countries at launch:

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/pre-order-xbox-one/disclaimer

Australia
Austria
Belgium
Brazil
Canada
Denmark
Finland
France
Germany
Ireland
Italy
Mexico
Netherlands
New Zealand
Norway
Russia
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
United Kingdom
United States

Can't spare any xbones as demand in these countries is just that high!

[Cerveza mas fina]

Xbox is sooo dead.

[Third]

Asian gamers will have to wait a year longer than their American counterparts to get their hands on Microsoft’s Xbox One, which will only be available in the region in late 2014, a year after its U.S. launch this November.

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2013/06/11/microsoft-plots-2014-launch-for-xbox-one-in-asia/

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Diunx]

No Dominican Republic :diunxcry

is this for the tv shit or to activate my MS's games?

[ManaByte]

No Dominican Republic :diunxcry

is this for the tv shit or to activate my MS's games?

They're probably only allowing the IP ranges from those selected countries to authenticate games.

[Brehvolution]

No Dominican Republic :diunxcry

is this for the tv shit or to activate my MS's games?

It's a $500 brick. IP region lock.

[Great Rumbler]

Honestly, at this point the only way the Xbone could any worse is if it actually caught fire and burned people's houses down.

[Steve Contra]

Wait till November

[Don Flamenco]

Honestly, at this point the only way the Xbone could any worse is if it actually caught fire and burned people's houses down.

Manufacturing problems + very few preorder allocations point to them having issues. 

[mjemirzian]

Honestly, at this point the only way the Xbone could any worse is if it actually caught fire and burned people's houses down.

That's a feature, not a bug.

[Eel O'Brian]

Still probably gonna sell "okay" here in the US, I was listening to the radio yesterday and during the newsbumps Xbone One and Smartglass got mentioned a bunch of times, no mention of always online or DRM, and not a single PS4 mention 

[Purple Filth]

Holy shit 

Did the gameplan of the 2 really just switched hands compared to last gen?

[bork]

Glad I'm bailing out now.  Canceling my Gold renewal.

[Eel O'Brian]

locked in for two years now, but at least i'll get a handful of free games i already own for it

[Joe Molotov]

Honestly, at this point the only way the Xbone could any worse is if it actually caught fire and burned people's houses down.

Buy a second house, poors.

[bork]

All I work with are other nerds, so E3 has been a hot office topic.  Nobody wants an Xbone because of the DRM.   Well, the console players anyway.  This place is mostly PC gamers who laugh at the console filth.

[Mr. Gundam]

I work in high schools and I've heard students in the cafeteria complaining about Xbone and "no used games."

[Flannel Boy]

Drop out of high school and get a job so you can buy new games, dirty poors.

[Steve Contra]

It's been mentioned by a lot of people in a lot of different venues.  It was featured prominently in the WSJ, which is the biggest newspaper in the country. It's going to be the story going into launch.  Just wait until it gets closer and every single news organization pulls out their claws and rehashes this point.

[Eel O'Brian]

I hardly ever listen to or watch the news, so I just assumed that was what every news outlet was doing

[cool breeze]

Still probably gonna sell "okay" here in the US, I was listening to the radio yesterday and during the newsbumps Xbone One and Smartglass got mentioned a bunch of times, no mention of always online or DRM, and not a single PS4 mention 

yeah, some people don't care about these problems, and others aren't informed or don't understand the implications.  If you're strictly follows Microsoft's message, it doesn't sound all that bad, and there's sure to be a media blitz in the coming months.  And Titanfall looks incredible and it will be advertised as an exclusive.

Honestly, I want it to sell 'OK'.  Third parties might need more than just PC and PS4.  Sort of similar to I'm happy about indies on PS4, even though I'll play these games on PC.  And competition in the console space is nice; Nintendo certainly isn't capable of that.

 

[Cerveza mas fina]

Imagine the egg on some peoples' faces if the One turns out to be more powerful than the PS4, even without the cloud computing benefits.

 Just consider that there might be a good reason MS is playing their cards close to the vest on this one. Still a ways until launch and best to drop the big news closer in time.

[DCharlieJP]

Imagine the egg on some peoples' faces if the One turns out to be more powerful than the PS4, even without the cloud computing benefits.

The critical word in there is "IMAGINE" because its not going to be

We need to have a hand over ceremony as i am abdicating as XFE - who wants the throne ?

[Fifstar]

GAF repost?

[Cerveza mas fina]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=63019431&postcount=5175

 

[MCD]

It's AstroLad. You got trolled.

[Flannel Boy]

Ummmmm . . . AstroLad

To be fair, he's only been a GAF member for nine years with 33,757 posts.

[Mr. Gundam]

Imagine the egg on some peoples' faces if the One turns out to be more powerful than the PS4, even without the cloud computing benefits.

The critical word in there is "IMAGINE" because its not going to be

We need to have a hand over ceremony as i am abdicating as XFE - who wants the throne ?

It would be pretty tough to be XFE when the damn system won't even work in Japan until they decide to release it there domestically.

[nudemacusers]

 

edit: I checked, this isn't fake.

[Cerveza mas fina]

IS that real?

[MCD]

It is. LMAO

They totally gave up.

[Flannel Boy]

We need to have a hand over ceremony as i am abdicating as XFE - who wants the throne ?

Your throne and a crown of xbones.

[nudemacusers]

IS that real?

yep

https://twitter.com/Crofna

[Cerveza mas fina]

[Great Rumbler]

(Image removed from quote.)

It's rare to see a company so blatantly flip the bird at its customers. There's veiled contempt and then there's just plain old contempt right out in the open.

[Third]

More...

[Madrun Badrun]

How the fuck does something like this happen?

[MCD]

This has gone beyond trolling. This is self destructing.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Not enough clouds in Poland  :'(

[nudemacusers]

xbox one is making the cruelest polish joke of all time  :'(

[Human Snorenado]

Jesus fuck

[Purple Filth]

 

[Cerveza mas fina]

Perhaps the most worrying statement to be found in the Xbox One disclaimer, surrounds consumer rights after the mandatory Terms Of Use has been signed upon switching on your new console.

 "You must accept Xbox Terms of Use (including Xbox software terms and game license terms), Microsoft Services Agreement, and Xbox One 1-year limited warranty. Some games have additional license terms."

"Terms include binding arbitration with class action waiver to resolve disputes."

 While it is likely to only be a defensive maneuver on the part of Microsoft, it does mean that you are restricted from taking out a class action lawsuit against the company should you find dissatisfaction with the services provided.

 With Microsoft requiring the console to "phone home" every 24 hours to keep the system active, this would protect the company in the event of the Xbox Live servers going offline - rendering your console inactive - or if a network hacking scandal arose like we saw with the Sony PSN in 2011, where the network was down for an entire month.

Is this something big in the US?

[Eel O'Brian]

Top o' the world,* Ma!








*World's top available in 21 countries

[mjemirzian]

Ballmer is sharpening his claws.

Windows is next. :'(

[Steve Contra]

Perhaps the most worrying statement to be found in the Xbox One disclaimer, surrounds consumer rights after the mandatory Terms Of Use has been signed upon switching on your new console.

 "You must accept Xbox Terms of Use (including Xbox software terms and game license terms), Microsoft Services Agreement, and Xbox One 1-year limited warranty. Some games have additional license terms."

"Terms include binding arbitration with class action waiver to resolve disputes."

 While it is likely to only be a defensive maneuver on the part of Microsoft, it does mean that you are restricted from taking out a class action lawsuit against the company should you find dissatisfaction with the services provided.

 With Microsoft requiring the console to "phone home" every 24 hours to keep the system active, this would protect the company in the event of the Xbox Live servers going offline - rendering your console inactive - or if a network hacking scandal arose like we saw with the Sony PSN in 2011, where the network was down for an entire month.

Is this something big in the US?

No, binding arbitration is pretty standard stuff.  It's the reason no one could sue carnival when they got stuck on that dead cruise ship for a week.

[Madrun Badrun]

Perhaps the most worrying statement to be found in the Xbox One disclaimer, surrounds consumer rights after the mandatory Terms Of Use has been signed upon switching on your new console.

 "You must accept Xbox Terms of Use (including Xbox software terms and game license terms), Microsoft Services Agreement, and Xbox One 1-year limited warranty. Some games have additional license terms."

"Terms include binding arbitration with class action waiver to resolve disputes."

 While it is likely to only be a defensive maneuver on the part of Microsoft, it does mean that you are restricted from taking out a class action lawsuit against the company should you find dissatisfaction with the services provided.

 With Microsoft requiring the console to "phone home" every 24 hours to keep the system active, this would protect the company in the event of the Xbox Live servers going offline - rendering your console inactive - or if a network hacking scandal arose like we saw with the Sony PSN in 2011, where the network was down for an entire month.

Is this something big in the US?

Ya but I don't think they are actually doable.  Its something to scare people away from trying.

[Don Flamenco]

Perhaps the most worrying statement to be found in the Xbox One disclaimer, surrounds consumer rights after the mandatory Terms Of Use has been signed upon switching on your new console.

 "You must accept Xbox Terms of Use (including Xbox software terms and game license terms), Microsoft Services Agreement, and Xbox One 1-year limited warranty. Some games have additional license terms."

"Terms include binding arbitration with class action waiver to resolve disputes."

 While it is likely to only be a defensive maneuver on the part of Microsoft, it does mean that you are restricted from taking out a class action lawsuit against the company should you find dissatisfaction with the services provided.

 With Microsoft requiring the console to "phone home" every 24 hours to keep the system active, this would protect the company in the event of the Xbox Live servers going offline - rendering your console inactive - or if a network hacking scandal arose like we saw with the Sony PSN in 2011, where the network was down for an entire month.

Is this something big in the US?

Yeah, forces you to discuss and figure out a solution out of court.   If everybody who got a launch system had it break and they tried to band together to bring one huge ass lawsuit, they can't because of that.  Every EULA has this though, this isn't anything special for Xbox.

[Great Rumbler]

This really is utterly incredible. They're actively telling entire COUNTRIES to screw off. But, oh, maybe if you guys wait around a year or two we'll get around to caring about your backwater country!

[Cerveza mas fina]

Ok, I know EULA are non binding in lots of cases in the EU, when they are against EU law for one.

[Human Snorenado]

Just when you thought this thing couldn't be more of a smoldering trainwreck, it jumps off the rails again, crushes another school bus full of children on a field trip, then rolls over onto a Red Cross blood drive and explodes all over again in a cloud of fiery cataclysmic fail.

[Don Flamenco]

Ok, I know EULA are non binding in lots of cases in the EU, when they are against EU law for one.

I'm not sure how EULAs are handled here, but that clause is based on a recent supreme court ruling here.  shit sucks :\

[Cerveza mas fina]

[Madrun Badrun]

If they don't answer this shit now, they are going to keep the fuck-up-train going right up until launch.

[Cerveza mas fina]

If its account based there should be no reason why you wouldn't be able to resell the console itself.

Why no answer then?

[nudemacusers]

If they don't answer this shit now, they are going to keep the fuck-up-train going right up until launch.

seriously, what a pr disaster. you can't exactly undo this level of misery.

[Madrun Badrun]

The reason is, if they are trying to make it the norm for an unlock cost to sell games, why not systems too?

[Huff]

Cboat did say it would get worse