Mattrick: Fortunately we have a product for people without internet

[Flannel Boy]

"Terms include binding arbitration with class action waiver to resolve disputes."

Is this something big in the US?

If anyone cares, many provinces in Canada prohibit mandatory arbitration clauses in consumer agreements. On top of that, a recent Supreme Court decision seems to allow consumers to escape these clauses (seems because it was a Quebec case, the only non-common law province in Canada).

[MCD]

David Wales @Aiervon
 @therealcliffyb Considering your history of love for gaming. It's astonishing to watch you be satisfied with MS alienating millions of gmrs.

Cliff Bleszinski @therealcliffyb
 @Aiervon it's manufactured outrage by gamers, you mean.

Someone please make a movie out of this. It just won't stop.

[MCD]

[Howard Alan Treesong]

[Third]

[ManaByte]

[nudemacusers]

(Image removed from quote.)

 

edit: I just noticed the monkeys shake the dribble out. nice attention to detail.

[Flannel Boy]

[Joe Molotov]

Please understand. ^PC

[Great Rumbler]

"This problem does not affect me, therefore it is not a problem."

[Steve Contra]

"This problem does not affect me, therefore it is not a problem."

#beingwhiteontheinternet

[Madrun Badrun]

[Madrun Badrun]

What I don't get is why didn't they announce this all two months ago.  It has completely overshadowed their games and that can't have been unexpected. 

[Don Flamenco]

CliffyB  

your favorite country 

guns

fatties

black people

[Human Snorenado]

What I don't get is why didn't they announce this all two months ago.  It has completely overshadowed their games and that can't have been unexpected.

MS is just trying to give Nintendo competition for being tone deaf and oblivious.  Heck of a job, Mattrick!

[Flannel Boy]

What I don't get is why didn't they announce this all two months ago.  It has completely overshadowed their games and that can't have been unexpected.

MS is just trying to give Nintendo competition for being tone deaf and oblivious.  Heck of a job, Mattrick!

MS can't compete with NO new third party games.

[Steve Contra]

Like I was telling Patel earlier, who is the guy that OKed this as even a coherent strategy, let alone a good one?

[Howard Alan Treesong]

Why would you leave your house? You can order pizza right from the Xbox dashboard!

[Smooth Groove]

Is it too late for MS to revise strategy? 

[Madrun Badrun]

What's weird is EA and Ubi seem to be distancing themselves from this, when there can be no way they didn't have a hand in this. 

[Eel O'Brian]

Yeah, crazy amounts of passive-aggressive buck-passing going on, haha

[Flannel Boy]

What's weird is EA and Ubi seem to be distancing themselves from this

was it weird that, in 1945, Heidegger distanced himself from the Nazi party?

[Flannel Boy]

[Joe Molotov]

 

[Great Rumbler]

I have no idea how they were so out of touch as to think this shit was going to fly.

And people thought Sony was bad at E3 2005. At least all they did was sell their console at a high price.

[Human Snorenado]

I have no idea how they were so out of touch as to think this shit was going to fly.

And people thought Sony was bad at E3 2005. At least all they did was sell their console at a high price.

Let us not forget Ridge Racer.

*pause*

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidge Racer!

[Akala]

I have no idea how they were so out of touch as to think this shit was going to fly.

And people thought Sony was bad at E3 2005. At least all they did was sell their console at a high price.

Let us not forget Ridge Racer.

*pause*


Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidge Racer!

I want a new ridge racer.

[Eel O'Brian]

that is a colossal booger

[Phoenix Dark]

help a brotha understand why that's a bad thing. I thought all the E3 demos were being played on PC-based dev kits, based on the console's specs?

[headwalk]

help a brotha understand why that's a bad thing. I thought all the E3 demos were being played on PC-based dev kits, based on the console's specs?

give or take a few overclock cycles.

as always, until it's on the shelves and getting sperged over by digital foundry, don't trust your eyes. no manufacturer is going to take the unnecessary risk of playing everything straight down the line when the stakes are this high.

[headwalk]

Lastly, it's funny that even Microsoft uses Windows 7 rather than 8.

you don't sabotage the workflow when it's your own money.

[Eel O'Brian]

I meant hanging out of Francis' nose

[Diunx]

I'm saving all the info I can on this trainwreck, decided this can be a potential subject for my Uni's monographic in the future.

[MCD]

Q: Japan no in 21 provinces, One Xbox will be released in Japan? In addition, if you do that and when is time?

A: Yes. Microsoft as a new generation of all-in-one system be launched in Japan the Xbox One you are. About the deployment in Japan including the release date will be announced next proper occasion.

http://www.famitsu.com/news/201306/11034700.html



Here you go people, just another misunderstanding because the fuckheads at Redmond can't speak to us as human beings.

Oh wait, they cancelled all interviews. Sorry, my mistake.

[Human Snorenado]

Damn McD, 

[MCD]

It's been a very rough week for me. I can't even look at my Windows Phone the same again.

[Human Snorenado]

Can't be a fanboy, dude.  That's just part of life.

Just do what I do and pick something to irrationally hate instead

[MCD]

It's all fun and games.

I barely play games anymore due to too much shit going on with my life. I'm just enjoying this too much.

[Human Snorenado]

Yeah, I don't have much time for games either.  Last year I played the shit out of Diablo 3, but since going back to school... not so much time.

[Smooth Groove]

Most people here probably enjoy system wars as much as any game, which is why the next-gen will be so sad

[Momo]

You also have to live in one of these countries, too

Xbox One to only work in certain countries at launch:

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/pre-order-xbox-one/disclaimer

Australia
Austria
Belgium
Brazil
Canada
Denmark
Finland
France
Germany
Ireland
Italy
Mexico
Netherlands
New Zealand
Norway
Russia
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
United Kingdom
United States

holy fuck balls

[pilonv1]

New Zealand > Japan

[naff]

I have no idea how they were so out of touch as to think this shit was going to fly.

And people thought Sony was bad at E3 2005. At least all they did was sell their console at a high price.

Getting a second job is likely more productive than a second internet connection

[mjemirzian]

was it weird that, in 1945, Heidegger distanced himself from the Nazi party?

Thread godwinned.

All of this bad news is making me worry about what they'll to do Windows.

Kind of ironic that "always online" devices like smartphones let you play your games offline without connection checks. I can get an iPod Touch, load it up with games, and play offline as long as I want.

[MCD]

Sandra: Thank you for contacting Xbox Chat Support. My name is Sandra and I will be assisting you today. Please give me a minute to check your issue.
 Sandra: Hi there.
 Sandra: Can I have your name please?

 Lee: Oh hi
 Lee: call me Lee
 Lee: I wanna ask something about Xbox One region specification.

 Sandra: Oh his there Lee. How are you today?
 Sandra: And yes, go ahead please.

 Lee: Microsoft has posted the distribution region here http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/p...one/disclaimer and i wanna know can i import the console and games from US and play it in Hong Kong

 Sandra: Definitely you can Lee. What xbox one require is just an internet connection that is available 24/7. That means that you just have to have an internet connection of your own. Just like the previous consoles, there are countries that they are not officially sold but the console still works there.

 Lee: So,my case is-Xbox One console:US,game:US region,account:US XBOX LIVE account,where i located:Hong Kong
 Lee: And Microsoft won't block my ip,right?

 Sandra: No not at all since Live and Gold services are both available in Hong Kong. Just like the older consoles Lee, it is not officially sold or distributed to a lot of countries because of the numbers of users that are few but the console still works as long as Live service is available to that country.

 Lee: So the Xbox Live service for Xbox One will just like Xbox 360

 Sandra: That is right. Only the platform changes but everything pretty much is the same.

 Lee: Ok,thanks for your help
 Lee: No more question from me,so bye and have a nice day

 Sandra: Alright then. See you on Live soon Lee. You take care, okay?
 Sandra:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=63222436&postcount=1378

Gamers doing MS job.

[Rufus]

Kind of ironic that "always online" devices like smartphones let you play your games offline without connection checks. I can get an iPod Touch, load it up with games, and play offline as long as I want.

B-but it's just like Steam, you guys!

[maxy]

Sandra: Thank you for contacting Xbox Chat Support. My name is Sandra and I will be assisting you today. Please give me a minute to check your issue.
 Sandra: Hi there.
 Sandra: Can I have your name please?

 Lee: Oh hi
 Lee: call me Lee
 Lee: I wanna ask something about Xbox One region specification.

 Sandra: Oh his there Lee. How are you today?
 Sandra: And yes, go ahead please.

 Lee: Microsoft has posted the distribution region here http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/p...one/disclaimer and i wanna know can i import the console and games from US and play it in Hong Kong

 Sandra: Definitely you can Lee. What xbox one require is just an internet connection that is available 24/7. That means that you just have to have an internet connection of your own. Just like the previous consoles, there are countries that they are not officially sold but the console still works there.

 Lee: So,my case is-Xbox One console:US,game:US region,account:US XBOX LIVE account,where i located:Hong Kong
 Lee: And Microsoft won't block my ip,right?

 Sandra: No not at all since Live and Gold services are both available in Hong Kong. Just like the older consoles Lee, it is not officially sold or distributed to a lot of countries because of the numbers of users that are few but the console still works as long as Live service is available to that country.

 Lee: So the Xbox Live service for Xbox One will just like Xbox 360

 Sandra: That is right. Only the platform changes but everything pretty much is the same.

 Lee: Ok,thanks for your help
 Lee: No more question from me,so bye and have a nice day

 Sandra: Alright then. See you on Live soon Lee. You take care, okay?
 Sandra:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=63222436&postcount=1378

Gamers doing MS job.

Fuck Sandra.

[ManaByte]

MS says you'll buy the system because you're ignorant.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/414046/microsoft-xbox-one-balances-needs-of-consumers-publishers-and-retailers/

Further commenting on criticism of its new Xbox One policies, Mehdi said: "I think it's fair to say there's a segment of consumers at this show in particular who really pay attention, who are very passionate about all aspects of gaming, and that we listen to closely. In a broader set of community, people don't pay attention to a lot of the details. We've seen it in the research, we've seen it in a lot of the data points.

[bud]

this can't be real...

[Rufus]

If it's real it doesn't make sense to me. "happy about the *new* price"? Who would be? And given that, why would they know the old one?

[MCD]

Spencer

Get out Spencer, get out before Ballmer fires everyone.

[Flannel Boy]

was it weird that, in 1945, Heidegger distanced himself from the Nazi party?

Thread godwinned.

Jokes are not arguments.

[Don Flamenco]

If it's real it doesn't make sense to me. "happy about the *new* price"? Who would be? And given that, why would they know the old one?

I don't hear the word "new" very clearly. 

"damn" would make more sense. I thought they'd be happy about the damn price

[Rufus]

Yeah, it's not clear at all. I can't hear shit there besides maybe "I thought they'd be".

[Don Flamenco]

it does sound like his voice though.  And just about every fucking person at that conference kept talking with the mic on after they left the stage 

[ManaByte]

Looks like MS is set on losing:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/414164/xbox-one-policy-wont-change-in-the-short-term-spencer/

We wanted to set our definitive policy in black and white terms on Xbox Wire, which we did last week. That's our policy

[Smooth Groove]

Only way Xbone policy can still be successful is if major publishers also get behind it and withdraw titles from PS4 until Sony does the same with DRM

[BobFromPikeCreek]

Only way Xbone policy can still be successful is if major publishers also get behind it and withdraw titles from PS4 until Sony does the same with DRM

Which won't happen after the response at E3. Probably the most clear its ever been that gamers don't want to bend over and take it.

[Eel O'Brian]

I think it'll still happen. They'll just find some way to ease into it, as opposed to cramming it down everyone's throat all at once.

[cool breeze]

In a sense they already are with how every game at E3 fuses single and multiplayer.  An always online connection is the optimal, or only, way to play these games.  That's more the death of traditional single player than DRM, but it could effectively mean what it meant for Diablo 3.

But I do agree with Bob that the mass exodus at E3, in spirit, was a big "back the fuck off" to these policies for the time being.  Whatever happens, this week you had EA saying that online passes weren't worth the damaged reputation they brought.  Yeah, OK, EA.