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Re: International Politics Thread - Deal or no Deal?
« Reply #7080 on: September 04, 2019, 03:58:58 AM »
For those not aware with the UK cabinet's titles etc, the Chancellor of the Duchy is currently Michael Gove.

AKA the real Mr Bean.




boris johnson is so fucking stupid honestly how the fuck did he become prime minister

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Re: International Politics Thread - Deal or no Deal?
« Reply #7083 on: September 04, 2019, 09:28:58 AM »
Does this belong here? Or in the climate change thread?
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/sep/04/uk-facing-eu-outrage-over-timebomb-of-north-sea-oil-rigs
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The British government is facing growing outrage from the European commission and five EU member states over its plans to leave some decommissioned oil rigs in the North Sea, with one senior German official describing the UK’s proposal as a “grotesque idea” that amounts to a “ticking timebomb”.

Several hundred oil drilling platforms in the North Sea are due to be decommissioned over the next three decades as they approach the end of their operational lifetime.
These people are insane.
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Re: International Politics Thread - Deal or no Deal?
« Reply #7086 on: September 04, 2019, 12:41:02 PM »
Corbyn: let's block no-deal with a law, then call an election
Johnson: call the election right now you chicken, you blouse, you you

A cunning plan.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Deal or no Deal?
« Reply #7087 on: September 04, 2019, 12:51:35 PM »
Today summed up



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Re: International Politics Thread - Deal or no Deal?
« Reply #7090 on: September 04, 2019, 02:45:51 PM »
It's almost like some people are trying to pull a fast one. :thinking
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Re: International Politics Thread - Deal or no Deal?
« Reply #7091 on: September 04, 2019, 02:59:44 PM »
So the reason that amendment passed, when it was not going to get much support on either side (since it argues in favour of bringing May's WA back), is that the "no" side (i.e. the government) did not provide tellers for the vote.

Yes, you read that right.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Deal or no Deal?
« Reply #7092 on: September 04, 2019, 03:56:23 PM »
Sounds like the bill to hold a general election won't pass.
So parliament is again at.

Nay:
- General Election before October 31st
- Brexit deal
- No-deal Brexit

Yay:
- Brexit extension
- General Election after October 31st

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Re: International Politics Thread - Deal or no Deal?
« Reply #7093 on: September 04, 2019, 04:15:05 PM »

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Re: International Politics Thread - Deal or no Deal?
« Reply #7094 on: September 04, 2019, 04:21:41 PM »

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Re: International Politics Thread - Deal or no Deal?
« Reply #7095 on: September 04, 2019, 04:24:47 PM »
British parliament looks and sounds like a bunch of ugly, sweaty drunks bellowing across the room at each other before they pass out.

It looks so cozy in there :heart

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Re: International Politics Thread - Deal or no Deal?
« Reply #7096 on: September 04, 2019, 04:39:28 PM »
They're all having a laugh now that someone has proposed a motion of no confidence against her majesty's opposition  :lol
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Re: International Politics Thread - Deal or no Deal?
« Reply #7097 on: September 04, 2019, 04:39:49 PM »
:lol

https://twitter.com/stephenkb/status/1169325343192342528


FYI, the Lords supporting the Government have planned a wonderful session of filibustering by preparing over 90 amendments to the bill...

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Re: International Politics Thread - Deal or no Deal?
« Reply #7098 on: September 05, 2019, 04:04:35 AM »
Today Bojo might try to set-up a vote of no-confidence against his own government to trigger an election  :doge
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Re: International Politics Thread - Deal or no Deal?
« Reply #7099 on: September 05, 2019, 04:46:52 AM »
:lol

https://twitter.com/stephenkb/status/1169325343192342528


FYI, the Lords supporting the Government have planned a wonderful session of filibustering by preparing over 90 amendments to the bill...

Depending on how long it takes, we might see the Lords exercising their genuine power to decide what day it is by not adjourning and therefore being able to legally declare it to be Wednesday indefinitely.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Deal or no Deal?
« Reply #7100 on: September 05, 2019, 05:06:26 AM »
:lol

https://twitter.com/stephenkb/status/1169325343192342528


FYI, the Lords supporting the Government have planned a wonderful session of filibustering by preparing over 90 amendments to the bill...

Depending on how long it takes, we might see the Lords exercising their genuine power to decide what day it is by not adjourning and therefore being able to legally declare it to be Wednesday indefinitely.


It's already over. The filibustering Lords have given in during the night - the bill should pass before Friday 5pm.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Deal or no Deal?
« Reply #7101 on: September 05, 2019, 05:09:16 AM »
The dumbest thing Boris did was kick out party members for voting against him.
Some might've actually supported a general election
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Re: International Politics Thread - Deal or no Deal?
« Reply #7102 on: September 05, 2019, 05:35:47 AM »
The dumbest thing Boris did was kick out party members for voting against him.
Some might've actually supported a general election

That would have not changed a thing.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Deal or no Deal?
« Reply #7103 on: September 05, 2019, 05:42:12 AM »
It's already over. The filibustering Lords have given in during the night - the bill should pass before Friday 5pm.

Ah, good. Cue paranoia about whether they did it to give more time for arguing for an election.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Deal or no Deal?
« Reply #7104 on: September 05, 2019, 05:49:32 AM »
The dumbest thing Boris did was kick out party members for voting against him.
Some might've actually supported a general election

That would have not changed a thing.
It would've showed the party he was reasonable.
Kicking out the grandson of churchill just added more drama and contributed nothing
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Re: International Politics Thread - Deal or no Deal?
« Reply #7105 on: September 05, 2019, 06:03:58 AM »
If there was ever any doubt remaining, Dominic Cummings, key adviser to BoJo, is indeed insane :lol

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A lot has been written and said about Dominic Cummings, the former campaign director of Vote Leave, since he became an adviser to No 10.

Matt Sanders, a former special adviser to ex-deputy prime minister Nick Clegg shared an office with Mr Cummings, who was then working working for Michael Gove.

"I think it's definitely true that Dominic is someone who relishes a fight," he says. "The defining characteristic of Dominic is that he's at his best when he's fighting someone.

"In (his time at the department of) education he kind of invented this enemy, he called it 'the blob' - basically anyone who disagreed with him.

"I think what we now see is him basically creating an enemy so that he can really roll his sleeves up and get involved in a fight. But it's very surprising for lots of people to see that the enemy he's picked seems to be the party he's working for alongside of course the EU, Remain voters.

"And that's something Dominic's going to be really enjoying."

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Re: International Politics Thread - Deal or no Deal?
« Reply #7106 on: September 05, 2019, 06:24:29 AM »
Le Mammouth de l'Education Nationale. :yeshrug
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Re: International Politics Thread - Deal or no Deal?
« Reply #7107 on: September 05, 2019, 07:32:04 AM »
Bojo's brother resigned lmao
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Re: International Politics Thread - Deal or no Deal?
« Reply #7108 on: September 05, 2019, 07:43:39 AM »
UK politics making the USA look good.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Deal or no Deal?
« Reply #7109 on: September 05, 2019, 09:27:22 AM »
UK politics making the USA look good.

are they though?

If you think about it, they are sending a really strong "remain" message to the rest of EU, and that's a good thing!  :doge

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Re: International Politics Thread - Deal or no Deal?
« Reply #7110 on: September 05, 2019, 09:29:39 AM »
UK politics making the USA look good.


Republican congressman Steve King claimed he drank from a toilet in a migrant detention center during a town hall ...

"I actually went into that cell where it was reported that [migrants] were advised they had to drink out of the toilet. I took a drink out of there. And actually pretty good!"


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Re: International Politics Thread - Deal or no Deal?
« Reply #7111 on: September 05, 2019, 09:31:17 AM »
What exactly is the plan from the anti-no deal Brexit crew? I get that BoJo and friends are just trying to run out the clock, but what is the other side hoping for here?
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Re: International Politics Thread - Deal or no Deal?
« Reply #7112 on: September 05, 2019, 09:44:03 AM »
UK politics making the USA look good.

are they though?

If you think about it, they are sending a really strong "remain" message to the rest of EU, and that's a good thing!  :doge

The message they're really sending are strong dog using a laptop vibes


UK politics making the USA look good.


Republican congressman Steve King claimed he drank from a toilet in a migrant detention center during a town hall ...

"I actually went into that cell where it was reported that [migrants] were advised they had to drink out of the toilet. I took a drink out of there. And actually pretty good!"


 :lol :lol :lol

Yeah the UK maybe one step above that tbh!

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Re: International Politics Thread - Deal or no Deal?
« Reply #7113 on: September 05, 2019, 09:55:59 AM »
What exactly is the plan from the anti-no deal Brexit crew? I get that BoJo and friends are just trying to run out the clock, but what is the other side hoping for here?
Win majority as Tories implode (and Brexit party doesn't surge, fingers crossed). Call the farce off, have another referendum, or actually negotiahahaha. :rofl

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Re: International Politics Thread - Deal or no Deal?
« Reply #7114 on: September 05, 2019, 09:59:59 AM »
What exactly is the plan from the anti-no deal Brexit crew? I get that BoJo and friends are just trying to run out the clock, but what is the other side hoping for here?


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Re: International Politics Thread - Deal or no Deal?
« Reply #7115 on: September 05, 2019, 10:04:25 AM »
What exactly is the plan from the anti-no deal Brexit crew? I get that BoJo and friends are just trying to run out the clock, but what is the other side hoping for here?

From my outsider perspective they are basically going full Nancy no-backbone Pelosi.

They don’t actually say “we want to remain” because they don’t want to piss off the leavers, but they want to remain.

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« Reply #7116 on: September 05, 2019, 01:53:03 PM »
What exactly is the plan from the anti-no deal Brexit crew? I get that BoJo and friends are just trying to run out the clock, but what is the other side hoping for here?
Another extension so a magical new deal can be sorted and an election can be held and they can pursue remain options.

But the problem has always been that some brexiteers don't support a negotiated "deal brexit" and want to crash out. some remainers want a second referendum but only on remain or may's deal and not a no-deal or new deal.

And now some want a general election but only if no deal is ruled out and Boris resigns first. And others don't want an election. Because Boris would hold onto tory seats, Farage would take weak labor seats and not challenge conservatives. But only if Boris runs on a no-deal.

The risk Corbyn is taking now is that not Boris would win but Farage. So for the opposition endless obstruction and kicking down the can is the only viable option and for Boris crashing out ASAP
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« Reply #7117 on: September 05, 2019, 03:04:25 PM »
What exactly is the plan from the anti-no deal Brexit crew? I get that BoJo and friends are just trying to run out the clock, but what is the other side hoping for here?


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Re: International Politics Thread - Deal or no Deal?
« Reply #7118 on: September 05, 2019, 03:36:27 PM »
https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1169651198770782208

Jesus, and people think Biden or Trump are bad in the mental department.

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« Reply #7121 on: September 05, 2019, 05:21:40 PM »
Theresa May -> Boris Johnson is the best thing ever. It was obvious we were moving even further down the competence ladder... but we were so deep into the abyss with May, how much worse can it get?

Much, much worse.

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« Reply #7123 on: September 06, 2019, 08:01:56 AM »
https://twitter.com/MattGarrahan/status/1169720609095462913

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Today Bojo might try to set-up a vote of no-confidence against his own government to trigger an election  :doge
I made this up  :doge
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Re: International Politics Thread - Deal or no Deal?
« Reply #7124 on: September 06, 2019, 08:48:54 AM »
No one should have confidence in any conservative government no matter which country.
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« Reply #7125 on: September 06, 2019, 08:57:22 AM »
No one should have confidence in any conservative government no matter which country.
:hmph
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« Reply #7126 on: September 06, 2019, 09:18:59 AM »
No one should have confidence in any conservative government no matter which country.

I have more trust in the German conservatives than in the Green party, the left or these wacky libertarians.

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« Reply #7128 on: September 06, 2019, 09:59:19 AM »

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« Reply #7129 on: September 06, 2019, 10:11:20 AM »
the comments have some good stuff too  :lol
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Re: International Politics Thread - Deal or no Deal?
« Reply #7132 on: September 06, 2019, 11:15:03 AM »
Even KFC is telling tories to fuck off :lol

https://twitter.com/KFC_UKI/status/1169970678658998277

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« Reply #7134 on: September 06, 2019, 12:08:10 PM »
:lol

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« Reply #7136 on: September 06, 2019, 12:49:57 PM »
https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1170005038909067264

We need bojo emoji's  :lol


A statement from the EU
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1169999949855019008
Sounds like they're not really feeling this 'extension' thing :idont
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« Reply #7137 on: September 06, 2019, 02:17:27 PM »
Corbyn running from an election after spending last year trying to force one is pretty weak tbh, the polls must have them worried.

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« Reply #7138 on: September 06, 2019, 02:25:03 PM »
Can't risk the shiny 'no no-deal' law getting promptly overturned, I suppose. Which makes me wonder what's next. Another referendum isn't going to look much better.

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« Reply #7139 on: September 06, 2019, 06:14:56 PM »
Can't risk the shiny 'no no-deal' law getting promptly overturned, I suppose. Which makes me wonder what's next. Another referendum isn't going to look much better.
Boris will ignore the extension law passed by parliament because he can't alone decide on a delay the EU has to support it.

The only thing the opposition can do is support an election but they won't because they will lose their vulnerable seats to Farage if they run on a remain or delay platform. So parliament will shutdown for a bit until the queen's speech.
Boris will fly to Brussels to get a 'deal' and the EU will kindly tell him to stuff it because he hasn't send anything to Merkel or Macron in terms of new proposals when they gave him the opportunity to do so.
Regardless the Germans and French have together cobbled up a new deal for Boris to take back home. The sum the UK has to pay is lowered a bit and the terms are more favorable, however the backstop is unchanged.

Boris will return with this new deal from Brussels. The house will vote on the brexit deal again.
The deal doesn't pass because of the backstop, Corbyn doesn't want to risk an election and even if he wanted to at that point there is no longer time to arrange anything.
Boris leaves the EU without a deal as soon as the house votes the deal down.
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