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« Reply #3600 on: November 15, 2017, 12:52:46 PM »
Saad Hariri probably to fly in with his family to France.

Edit : invited by Macron.
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« Reply #3601 on: November 15, 2017, 02:42:43 PM »
I agree that in a perfect world Hezbollah acting as a state within a state is probably a bad idea, but is there presence actually what's destabilizing Lebanon at the moment? The articles I've read discussing the possibility of war in Lebanon say it's unlikely in large part because Hezbollah is so entrenched and there really isn't any force within Lebanon that can possibly confront them on equal terms.

Basically, it would be good if Lebanon wasn't dominated by foreign interests using the country as a staging ground for a regional cold war, but as long as it is it's better to have one side in control militarily rather than a free-for-all.

Lebanon's demographics mean it will basically be a flashpoint for Middle Eastern conflicts as long as Saudi Arabia, Israel, Iran continue to be the dominant regional powers.
It's just frankly much better for the Lebanese if Iranian interests are dominant, when the alternative is their control by the US-Saudi-Israeli alliance that hates them.

Previous proxy administrations have been substantially more brutal than Hezbollah, who despite being called "the party of god" are genuinely more pluralistic and progressive than other viable forces in the government. That doesn't mean Hezbollah is not plagued by very worrisome problems like antisemtism and homophobia that are common to most Muslim political groups.

Hezbollah is very imperfect, but more able to protect and administer Lebanon as a pluralistic democracy than other extant parties. As foreign onlookers, we should critically support them for the same reasons that we support Hillary versus Trump or Macron versus Le Pen.

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« Reply #3602 on: November 15, 2017, 03:16:10 PM »
#NotAllImperialisms

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« Reply #3603 on: November 15, 2017, 03:45:03 PM »
As foreign onlookers, we should critically support them for the same reasons that we support Hillary versus Trump or Macron versus Le Pen.
what's this "we" shit :bolo

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« Reply #3604 on: November 15, 2017, 03:46:02 PM »
Honestly I don't think Iran's behavior really fits any definition of imperialism. They're supporting allied governments in Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon but... every country does that? Iran's only interventions have been to back-up their allies in civil wars, with the exception of Afghanistan... when they invaded to fight the Taliban alongside the US and the Northern Alliance.

Saudi's argument that they're fighting Iranian imperialism in Yemen is laughable. Yemenis overthrew their Saudi-backed, Western-backed government because they were tired of being treated as subhumans. The Houthis really are not Iranian proxies, but rather recognize that Iranian support is the best possible avenue to break away from the Saudi yoke.

In many ways, Iran is a substantially less ethical country than the US or even Israel. But foreign policy ain't one of them.

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« Reply #3605 on: November 15, 2017, 03:47:31 PM »
Mugabe is officially under house arrest now. I wonder if they're waiting to see if he dies without them having to do it.

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« Reply #3606 on: November 15, 2017, 03:50:28 PM »
Looking up his age I came across this from a couple years ago:
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Robert Mugabe will continue as President of Zimbabwe until he is 100, governing from a “special wheelchair”, his wife has said.

Grace Mugabe, herself a cabinet minister, said in a speech over the weekend that while the 91-year-old’s mind might be willing, increasingly his body may not be. According to reports in the Zimbabwean press, Mr Mugabe has recently had trouble walking, as his advanced years begin to catch up with him.

“We are going to create a special wheelchair for President Mugabe until he rules to 100 years, because that is what we want,” Mrs Mugabe said. “That is the people’s choice. We want a leader that respects us.”

The people will get the chance to voice their opinion in 2018 when Zimbabwe next goes to the polls to decide who rules them. Mr Mugabe, who has suffered a number of embarrassing public stumbles in recent months, has already been declared as the Zanu-PF candidate despite the fact that he will be 94 at the time of the election. Mr Mugabe has been President in Harare since 1980.

Mrs Mugabe did not give details about quite how the wheelchair would be special, but vowed to push it herself
A SPECIAL WHEELCHAIR SHE WOULD PUSH HERSELF :lawd

The story also provided this ignorant attack on the people of Zimbabwe:
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Should he win, he will not be able to seek another term.
Western media fools do not understand how true democracy works!

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« Reply #3607 on: November 15, 2017, 03:51:28 PM »
NYT, 2134: "Do the protests in Harare suggest God-Lich Mugabe is about to go?"

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« Reply #3610 on: November 17, 2017, 10:17:54 PM »
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I am so saddened. One less free nation. This truly breaks my heart.

But we must recognize the past and apply our experiences to the future. Negotiations and compromise, as proven today, must be rejected at all costs, as it will only allow the capitalists to regain or at least attempt to regain power.

May the Zimbabwean people believe the truth of socialism, and may they fight for freedom, following the footsteps of Mugabe all those years ago. Zimbabwe needs a revolution, and it is coming. Maybe next year, maybe next decade, maybe half a century. But it is coming. The Zimbabwean people are smart and they are class conscious. Once the material conditions arise, they will fight. And they will win. This is not a matter of if, but instead of when.

Long Live Robert Mugabe!

Long Live Zimbabwe and its people!

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Long live Robert Mugabe!

Fuck the neo-colonialist coup!

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« Reply #3611 on: November 18, 2017, 02:34:44 AM »
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« Reply #3612 on: November 18, 2017, 02:39:18 AM »
Alex Jones is popular and has fans who buy his wares :ufup

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« Reply #3613 on: November 18, 2017, 02:43:56 AM »
jason unruhe would sell tshirts if that didn't mean he would go to maoist hell

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« Reply #3614 on: November 18, 2017, 09:07:51 AM »
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« Reply #3615 on: November 18, 2017, 11:54:36 AM »
Mugabe's statement is forthcoming. Please be patient. Every new call to step down is only making the statement takes longer.
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« Reply #3616 on: November 18, 2017, 12:49:30 PM »
I'm really curious about Trevors challenge defeated.

What is the angle of this book from Unruhe? Is it "fuck no that liberal shill is in no way a glorious communist"? Because that would make sense.

Or is it  "no way Obama is a commie, he is legit as fuck!" which would be super weird coming from a Marxist.

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« Reply #3617 on: November 18, 2017, 08:18:59 PM »
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« Reply #3618 on: November 19, 2017, 06:54:57 PM »

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« Reply #3619 on: November 19, 2017, 07:28:47 PM »
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« Reply #3620 on: November 20, 2017, 04:33:32 AM »
Fuck yea, Straya! Nice one.

...

So, now that the EU has started the long and arduous task of standardising army procurement, R&D and training of specialists, it's time for a certain part of our populace to freak the flip out because it's clear that we will have an EU army under Brussels control within the next year, a major war against insurgents in Great Britain under the guise of peacekeeping, and general tyrannical rule of EU under direct control of Germany, with the aid of France.

Yikes. We Krauts better get around to cloning Hitler and giving him some body armour, otherwise allied forces won't have anything to shoot at when they come back for another world liberation tour. Seems like we've fallen behind schedule.

As much as I'm going blind from excessive eye rolling, can someone hook me up with a reasoned and plausible argument why this recent cooperation is a bad thing? I'm always up for broadening my horizons. So far I've only come across nebulous "bureaucracy" horror scenarios and such that only work because their proponent firmly believes that everything that can go wrong will go wrong as long as it is even vaguely connected to EU.

I'm a bit late but the net swallowed an earlier answer :
- Firstly any effort directed to "European defence" is less done on national security. It's not just investments, since there's talks of trying to set up an early integrated command. The end goal is clearly to create the backbone of an European army. It's of course a deep no-no for any nationalist or anyone concerned with sovereignty, a rather large demographic.
- Even without the ideological argument, one can be doubtful that transferring even parts of such a sensitive subject from clear, defined polities to a group of 23 (IIRC) countries is really conductive of any efficiency. It's unworkable to decide any real military action (a war can only be prosecuted with strong political resolve and direction) -though we're still not there- and may cause issues in deciding allocation and procurement. Past European efforts in the matter (including some industrial collaborations, look at some of the Franco-British warplane failures) were not all a success.
- There will be friction with regard to the US defence contractors, who supply quite a few European countries and in some case are embedded (in Great Britain, notably).

There's also other considerations (the rift of views of the use of projecting power between France and Germany, Brexit which is both a blessing and a curse...) at play.

It's probably needed to step up European defence funding to the continental level if only for economies of scale, but those need a very firm hand. Ideally we want a new AMCT, not a repeat of the ECD. But the former was only achieved in the most gruesome of wartime and height of necessity.
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« Reply #3621 on: November 20, 2017, 05:55:22 AM »
Turns out forming a government with three parties is difficult. Woops. I don't know what the FDP in particular hopes to gain out of a 2nd round of voting. If their obstinacy pays off, I'm going to be annoyed. "Taking responsibility", my ass. I doubt the SPD can be persuaded to put a gun to their head another time and something tells me Merkel isn't going to form a minority government with only the Greens. :shaq2

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« Reply #3622 on: November 20, 2017, 06:24:46 AM »
Hardly anyone is really gonna believe that the Neoliberals broke off the negotiations for any other reason than the vanity of their preening leadership. They’re not going to gain much from another election anyway. It’ll just be further proof to some that the establishment is neither willing nor able to govern. They’ll lose votes to the New Right; the same will happen to the other parties on the negotiating table, particularly Merkel and her Conservatives.

I’d actually be happy about these results if there wasn’t a nationalist and proto-fascist party profiting from it. I’m afraid there won’t be any gains for the Social Democrats.

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« Reply #3623 on: November 20, 2017, 06:30:01 AM »
It’ll just be further proof to some that the establishment is neither willing nor able to govern.
Ironically enough, Lindner has made a similar point in the past, only to take his ball and go home. :lol

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« Reply #3624 on: November 20, 2017, 07:57:39 AM »
Lindner made it a point to put the SPD on full blast for not foregoing their principles and doing another GroKo (Great Coalition between SPD and CDU/CSU). It's hilarious. He absolutely did not want to get into power.

However, I can see the FDP gaining just as many voters that they lose for this stupid chicken race by harvesting votes off the right fringe of the political spectrum that have very much understood that the FDP was the key annoyance in the fugitives debate, beyond even the fucking CSU. That takes some doing. It's like out-Trump-ing Trump.

I pity Schulz. If we really get another election, he's gonna get fired out of a cannon into the sun. And he's probably gonna climb into the cannon and pull the trigger by himself if the party isn't quick enough.
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« Reply #3625 on: November 20, 2017, 10:49:09 AM »
However, I can see the FDP gaining just as many voters that they lose for this stupid chicken race by harvesting votes off the right fringe of the political spectrum that have very much understood that the FDP was the key annoyance in the fugitives debate, beyond even the fucking CSU. That takes some doing. It's like out-Trump-ing Trump.

Maybe the Liberals will keep the votes they stole from the Conservative voting bloc, and perhaps even gain a little on account of Merkel's weakness. But if anything, I think it's more likely that they're gonna lose a junk of those votes thanks to those silly orchestrated dramatics during the negotiations.

People who once gave them their votes on account of them being a more "acceptable" choice than the AfD, are not going to be fooled forever by those phony thespians, who only accelerated their populist agenda, when they already knew they were going to ditch the talks.

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« Reply #3626 on: November 20, 2017, 08:25:27 PM »
Another good day in Brexit land.

The European Medicines Agency will relocate to Amsterdam.
The European Banking Agency will relocate to Paris.
David, tweet if you're OK.


Barnier once again made it clear that UK banks will lose their EU passporting rights.

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« Reply #3627 on: November 21, 2017, 10:04:50 AM »
bu bu bu bu immigration
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« Reply #3628 on: November 21, 2017, 08:41:23 PM »
I'm kinda bummed that the two agencies went to "established" European members instead of being used as a shot in the arm for faltering members. Would have been neat, at least philosophically.

I do somewhat enjoy the fact that Frankfurt got omgwtfbbq'd rather out of the blue.

EBA dodged a bullet there. Who'd want to live and work in Frankfurt. Well, besides Frankfurters. ;)

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« Reply #3629 on: November 21, 2017, 11:18:38 PM »
You're saying we should move the European Banking Agency to Greece I think is what you're saying.

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« Reply #3630 on: November 22, 2017, 05:38:37 AM »
Mugabe gives his resignation, Hariri suspends his now that he's in Beyrouth.
Also a North Korean soldier crossed the border to defect, under a hail of bullets (video of the incident exists, captured by the UN from the southern side of the DMZ). He was gravely injured (regained consciousness now). The interesting bit is that South Korean doctors studied his parasites and stomach worms to get an idea of the food situation up north and corroborate the rest of the evidence. Reuters has the reporting : In short it isn't great (duh). Apparently NK has switched to corn over rice as the prime import for food. Many worms long eradicated in SK were found. Others suggest that NK is heavily reliant on the traditional use of feces to help grow vegetables. The man wasn't well-fed by any standard.
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« Reply #3631 on: November 23, 2017, 11:51:16 AM »
Wilders'll surely be the person to bring back a more neutral and unbiased outlook on Russia.

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« Reply #3632 on: November 23, 2017, 12:45:18 PM »
Some kind of coup attempt in rebel-held eastern Ukraine. One of the rebel republicans (Donetsk) apparently tried to intervene in the other republic (Luhansk) and install a former Luhansk rebel leader who had previously been fired for corruption. Now Luhansk is apparently releasing anti-Russian, anti-Donetsk statements.

https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/933381919055794176

Because both these groups are heavily supported by Russia, this is kind of a big deal. I don't know if Luhansk can survive without heavy financial and material support from Russia. If they can't cooperate with their neighbors in Donetsk this one group of Donbass rebels might just get themselves a full-on Russian invasion.
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« Reply #3633 on: November 24, 2017, 07:39:07 PM »
Jesus Sweet Christ at the horrible attack on a mosque in Egypt.
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« Reply #3635 on: November 24, 2017, 10:15:29 PM »
Huh. New Zimbabwean leadership is seeking to compensate white farmers whose land was confiscated after the anticolonial revolution.

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/934020205725888514/video/1

I'm not sure if this is a good idea. The Zimbabweans are definitely hoping to improve their country's image and spur Western investment, but these payments will be a real strain on their economy and are no indication that things will get better. This kind of move could also burn bridges with China, who are trying very hard to position themselves as an alternative development opportunity for African nations that feel burned by the West.

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« Reply #3636 on: November 25, 2017, 05:59:02 AM »
Huh. New Zimbabwean leadership is seeking to compensate white farmers whose land was confiscated after the anticolonial revolution.

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/934020205725888514/video/1

I'm not sure if this is a good idea. The Zimbabweans are definitely hoping to improve their country's image and spur Western investment, but these payments will be a real strain on their economy and are no indication that things will get better. This kind of move could also burn bridges with China, who are trying very hard to position themselves as an alternative development opportunity for African nations that feel burned by the West.

That's not new. Mugabe kickstarted it a couple of years ago. Ever since white farmers got kicked out, it all turned to shit. There should definitely be a UN overseeing committee to make sure the situation improves and no party gets awfully screwed (or worse), if only to restore the country's economy and production asap.

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« Reply #3637 on: November 25, 2017, 06:46:38 AM »
So he's gonna be the one to drive Israelis back to the shores ? Didn't know Saudi Arabia was so sympathetic to them.
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« Reply #3638 on: November 25, 2017, 06:50:35 AM »

Hold on... apparently wrapping images in move tags re-enables img width which broke recently :wtf

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« Reply #3639 on: November 25, 2017, 09:25:54 AM »
Discovered that if you wrap images (any number of them) within a font tag it too acts as a workaround for the bug and the width will display correctly.


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« Reply #3640 on: November 26, 2017, 08:29:08 AM »
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Robert Mugabe and his wife will receive a “golden handshake” worth many millions of dollars as part of a deal negotiated before the resignation of the ageing autocrat last week. The exact sums to be paid to the former president and his wife Grace are still unclear, though one senior ruling party official with direct knowledge of the agreement said the total would not be less than $10m.

The official said that Mugabe, who has been granted immunity from prosecution and a guarantee that no action will be taken against his family’s extensive business interests, would receive a “cash payment of $5m” immediately, with more paid in coming months.

The 93-year-old’s $150,000 salary will also be paid until his death. The 52-year-old first lady, reviled for her extravagance and greed, will then receive half that amount for the rest of her life.

Mugabe’s 37-year rule left Zimbabwe with a worthless currency, massive debts, an impoverished population and an estimated unemployment rate of more than 80%. Roads are rutted, many rural communities have no electricity, education is basic and healthcare almost non-existent. A life expectancy of 60 is one of the lowest in the world.

The first couple will be able to remain in their sprawling mansion known as the Blue Roof, in Harare. The state will pay for their medical care, domestic staff, security and foreign travel.
America could learn something about rewarding its sacrificing and humble public servants from this example. America must prove its place among great nations by also immediately granting immunity to the Trump family and its business interests.

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« Reply #3641 on: November 26, 2017, 04:55:49 PM »
Whoa whoa it seems like the YPG is in talks for their territory to be coordinated into Syria as an autonomous province under local socialist control. This is probably the best possible outcome for the folks in Rojava.

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« Reply #3642 on: November 26, 2017, 07:00:00 PM »
No it's not, because that autonomous region will come into conflict with Turkey, not to mention Kurdistan will want to unify. I think that's best in the long run but I don't know if it will be drama free.
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« Reply #3643 on: November 26, 2017, 07:41:25 PM »
Oh boy, just what the region needs, the Turks going on a rampage and starting more shit with the Kurds. Erdogan probably splooges his pants at the thought.
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« Reply #3644 on: November 26, 2017, 10:17:04 PM »
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« Reply #3645 on: November 27, 2017, 03:16:38 AM »
That's pretty much a tl;dr of all right-wing populism of this decade.

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« Reply #3646 on: November 27, 2017, 03:22:16 AM »
The populist right-wing Sweden Democrats are currently losing support, but they have successfully forced all the other parties to take a harder stance on immigration and asylum.

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« Reply #3647 on: November 27, 2017, 04:03:01 AM »
The populist right-wing Sweden Democrats are currently losing support, but they have successfully forced all the other parties to take a harder stance on immigration and asylum.
election is still almost a year away...it's fucked to say but who knows what terror attacks will happen before then (and when), which could have a big effect. But yes, they have recently dipped to 3rd, but they're fluctuating between that and 2nd.
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« Reply #3648 on: November 27, 2017, 05:14:32 PM »
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« Reply #3649 on: November 27, 2017, 06:17:18 PM »
But can you still make fun of the French for being French?

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« Reply #3650 on: November 27, 2017, 11:46:48 PM »
But can you still make fun of the French for being French?

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« Reply #3651 on: November 28, 2017, 04:11:59 AM »
Glad to see Brexit is grinding to a standstill over Ireland, how is it possible the UK government promised "no custom union, no single market, no hard border" and people believed it? Now there is something no amount of talk can fix,these things cannot be combined. It's impossible.

It's akin to believing the virgin Mary got pregnant by the holy spirit.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/nov/27/irish-question-save-britain-brexit-leo-varadkar
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« Reply #3652 on: November 28, 2017, 04:38:49 PM »
No it's not, because that autonomous region will come into conflict with Turkey, not to mention Kurdistan will want to unify. I think that's best in the long run but I don't know if it will be drama free.

Autonomous province, not independent nation-state. If this plan is carried out to completion, northern Syria would have situation similar to the Kurdish Regional Government in Iraq. This means that local laws would apply for the most part, but they'd still be part of Syria. In times of major crisis (like a Turkish invasion), the Syrian Arab Army is obligated to intervene.

Big difference between this situation and Iraq is that Syrian Kurds have a democratic secular government built upon libertarian socialist principles, while the Iraqi Kurdish government is an unaccountable racket dominated by the Barzani family.


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« Reply #3656 on: November 30, 2017, 05:02:14 PM »
Pew Research: Europe’s Growing Muslim Population

I know most people don't have time to read the full 50+ page report, so here's an article with 5 takeaways:

5 facts about the Muslim population in Europe

few excerpts that jump out:

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" By 2050, the share of the continent’s population that is Muslim could more than double, rising to 11.2% or more, depending on how much migration is allowed into Europe. Even in the unlikely event that future migration is permanently halted, the Muslim population still would rise to an estimated 7.4%, due to the relative youth and high fertility rates of Europe’s current Muslim residents."
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"In 2016, the median age of Muslims throughout Europe was 30.4, 13 years younger than the median for other Europeans (43.8 ). Looking at it another way, 50% of all European Muslims are under the age of 30, compared with 32% of non-Muslims in Europe. In addition, the average Muslim woman in Europe is expected to have 2.6 children, a full child more than the average non-Muslim woman (1.6 children)."
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Re: International Politics Thread - Macron? I don't know her.
« Reply #3657 on: November 30, 2017, 05:23:33 PM »
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Re: International Politics Thread - Macron? I don't know her.
« Reply #3658 on: November 30, 2017, 06:39:30 PM »
We'll be okay. There's not going to be a pan-European caliphate or anything.

Things will only go down the shitter if people take projections like these at face value and start freaking out.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Macron? I don't know her.
« Reply #3659 on: December 01, 2017, 03:53:49 AM »
11.2%? That's almost as large of share of the population as black people in the United States.

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