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Tripon

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https://warontherocks.com/2020/03/china-is-legally-responsible-for-covid-19-damage-and-claims-could-be-in-the-trillions/
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No one expects that China will fulfill its obligations, or take steps required by the law of state responsibility. So, how might the United States and other nations vindicate their rights? The legal consequences of an internationally wrongful act are subject to the procedures of the Charter of the United Nations. Chapter XIV of the charter recognizes that states may bring disputes before the International Court of Justice or other international tribunals. But the principle of state sovereignty means that a state may not be compelled to appear before an international court without its consent. This reflects a general proposition in international law, and its fundamental weakness.

Still, injured states are not without remedy. Barring any prospect for effective litigation, states could resort to self-help. The law of state responsibility permits injured states to take lawful countermeasures against China by suspending their own compliance with obligations owed to China as a means of inducing Beijing to fulfill its responsibilities and debt (Article 49). Countermeasures shall not be disproportionate to the degree of gravity of the wrongful acts and the effects inflicted on injured states (Article 51). The choice of countermeasures that injured states may select is wide open, with only minimal limitations. For example, countermeasures may not involve the threat or use of force or undermine the human rights of China (Article 50). Except for these limitations, however, the United States and other injured states may suspend existing legal obligations or deliberately violate other legal duties owed to China as a means to induce Beijing to fulfill its responsibilities and address the calamitous damages it has inflicted on the world.

The menu for such countermeasures is as limitless as the extent that international law infuses the foreign affairs between China and the world, and such action by injured states may be individual and collective and does not have to be connected explicitly to the kind or type of violations committed by China. Thus, action could include removal of China from leadership positions and memberships, as China now chairs four of 15 organizations of the United Nations system. States could reverse China’s entry into the World Trade Organization, suspend air travel to China for a period of years, broadcast Western media in China, and undermine China’s famous internet firewall that keeps the country’s information ecosystem sealed off from the rest of the world. Remember that countermeasures permit not only acts that are merely unfriendly, but also licenses acts that would normally be a violation of international law. But the limitations still leave considerable room to roam, even if they violate China’s sovereignty and internal affairs, including ensuring that Taiwanese media voices and officials are heard through the Chinese internet firewall, broadcasting the ineptness and corruption of the Chinese Communist Party throughout China, and reporting on Chinese coercion against its neighbors in the South China Sea and East China Sea, and ensuring the people of China understand the responsibility of the Chinese Communist Party in unleashing a global contagion.
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People have bitched out the tories, but they're doing a great job of supporting both self and PAYE employees,

I still don't like them, but I can't not say I admire their honesty and helping out everyone in this pretty fucked up time.

I'll bookmark this for when they tax us so hard my dick falls off though.


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https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/bitumen-wcs-wti-oil-1.5511386

Locally, a gallon of gas has come all the way down to $1.34, a price point I haven't seen since around 2005.
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I didn't realize they rebranded.  I'm not sure if a nation who can't even win a name-calling fight with Greece will make the best military allies. 

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Unrelated and unimportant: I actually know some people from North Macedonia.
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You mean Greece  ::)

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benjipwns

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/mar/24/labours-long-leadership-battle-hampering-coronavirus-response

Why is Labour having an election right now?
Because it already had sent out the ballots, all the voting is done by mail or online I believe.

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Cops got into a fight with each other in China and then the public got involved. Hubei cops vs. Jiangxi cops.

https://twitter.com/truthabtchina/status/1243473247536058368

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/mar/24/labours-long-leadership-battle-hampering-coronavirus-response

Why is Labour having an election right now?
Because Corbyn has not yet decided if he supports or opposes corona
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Me: "The CCP has corrupted the WHO it is an evil organization that has deliberately allowed this virus to spread and infect the population"


WHO: "What are you talking about Mr. Bond?"
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Nini maana ya hii?
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Unatarajia kila mtu kuwa na uwezo wa kusoma Kiarabu?
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Angry mommy  :drool
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Israel is listed as European by WHO for some reason



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Surely they put in some safeguards...right?
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France was in a prolonged state of emergency after the Paris attacks that were only lifted not that long ago, and the army has been conducting more or less visible patrols ever since the 1995 bombings so I'll refrain from being too sanctimonious but Hungary has been trending in a worrying direction for a while.
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https://twitter.com/balazscseko/status/1244612142831198209

Damn.

Time for this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_7_of_the_Treaty_on_European_Union

There currently is no way to expel Hungary, but its membership rights can (and should be) suspended.
The country should not receive any more EU grants, either.
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Just wait and see how things play out.
Most countries do these sort of things now.

In some countries the parliament just rubber stamps anything the government puts forward, in others they at least vote on that.
What matters is what happens after the crisis is over. If powers are not returned to normal, the EU should call Hungary to account.
Orban wants the money so he'll get back to symbolic bans of SOROS T-shirts.
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:piss chicoms :piss2
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Pissy F Benny

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Shouldn’t the unelected eu be allied with the chicoms  :thinking

Alex Jones be like :mjcry
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https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/03/31/824611607/turkmenistan-has-banned-use-of-the-word-coronavirus
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The Central Asian country of Turkmenistan claims it has no coronavirus cases. But if you happen to utter the word "coronavirus" while waiting, say, for the bus in the white-marbled capital Ashgabat, there's a good chance you'll be arrested.

That's because the Turkmen government, run since 2006 by the flamboyant dentist-rapper strongman Gurbanguly Berdymukhamedov, has reportedly banned the word
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Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty correspondents in Ashgabat report that plainclothes police officers are also arresting people who wear face masks or discuss the pandemic in public.
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"china virus" it is :rollsafe

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I think I said it before but former Soviet banana republics are my fetish.

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VomKriege

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Best intelligence in the world :derp
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Best intelligence in the world :derp

To be fair, they had to go through a lot of Hallmark Entertainment media to find something that dark.
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VomKriege

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For his upcoming science presentation Bibi could just add some spikes to that bomb diagram he showed at the UN for the geostrategic school fair.
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The fillers  :point
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VomKriege

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Corbyn's out.
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Nintex

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How is that possible, I thought Jeremy Corbyn was the most popular Labour leader in the history of the Labour party.  :teehee
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Another stabbing in france killing a few ppl

Man was screamjng alluh akhbar

fuck this shit
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Nintex

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Another stabbing in france killing a few ppl

Man was screamjng alluh akhbar

fuck this shit
Religious nut jobs are always terrible at reading the room.

At some point the police will start shooting with electric rounds from safe distances and send in drones with tasers as they will want to reduce physical contact as well.
I don't think those people quite yet realize that the 'Wild West' is over and countries like France won't put up much longer with their bullshit anymore as they have different priorities.
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BoJo got transported to the hospital. They said it’s precautionary.

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