Author Topic: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster  (Read 1092351 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.


Nintex

  • Literally a threat to democracy
  • Senior Member
🤴

Potato

  • Senior's Member
  • Senior Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13262 on: March 05, 2023, 05:35:06 PM »
Spud

Skullfuckers Anonymous

  • Will hunt bullies for fruit baskets. PM for details.
  • Senior Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13263 on: March 06, 2023, 05:17:45 PM »

Nintex

  • Literally a threat to democracy
  • Senior Member
🤴

Potato

  • Senior's Member
  • Senior Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13265 on: March 06, 2023, 07:41:26 PM »
Australia has fallen

https://twitter.com/VOANews/status/1632773039170650119
Saw that. I think someone might need to have a word with those pilots that maybe the armed forces are not for them.
Spud

team filler

  • filler
  • filler
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13266 on: March 06, 2023, 09:15:00 PM »
I thought that was about commercial airline pilots  :doge


the aussies have a soy force  :auscry
*****

Potato

  • Senior's Member
  • Senior Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13267 on: March 06, 2023, 10:25:06 PM »
Actually sounds more like standard debriefs rather than "counselling".
Spud

Nintex

  • Literally a threat to democracy
  • Senior Member
🤴

Potato

  • Senior's Member
  • Senior Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13269 on: March 07, 2023, 02:08:00 PM »
That would have been a significantly well trained and equipped "pro-Ukrainian group". I wonder where they got that from?
Spud


Nintex

  • Literally a threat to democracy
  • Senior Member
« Last Edit: March 07, 2023, 05:27:27 PM by Nintex »
🤴

Nintex

  • Literally a threat to democracy
  • Senior Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13272 on: March 07, 2023, 06:32:46 PM »
https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1633132900437872643

I swear these events are just AI generated. Belgian firefighters storming the EU commission building  :doge
🤴

Nintex

  • Literally a threat to democracy
  • Senior Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13273 on: March 10, 2023, 04:15:41 PM »
https://twitter.com/EndGameWW3/status/1634239990354853898

China has brokered a deal between Iran and Saudi Arabia.

Anthony Blinken remains the dumbest motherfucker on the planet who still somehow has a job.
🤴

Nintex

  • Literally a threat to democracy
  • Senior Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13274 on: March 11, 2023, 07:25:39 AM »
https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1634527430881820676

Yevgeny literally soy face on the front line
« Last Edit: March 11, 2023, 07:51:57 AM by Nintex »
🤴

Pissy F Benny

  • Is down with the sickness
  • Senior Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13275 on: March 11, 2023, 11:14:21 AM »
Thats not soy face >:(
(ice)

Sman

  • Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13276 on: March 13, 2023, 02:26:14 PM »


 :sabu

Nintex

  • Literally a threat to democracy
  • Senior Member
🤴

Nintex

  • Literally a threat to democracy
  • Senior Member
🤴

Nintex

  • Literally a threat to democracy
  • Senior Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13279 on: March 15, 2023, 07:44:49 PM »
Exit polls predict the Dutch Senate and Provincial elections are won by the Farmer Citizen Movement(BBB) a new politcal party. Winning about 15 out of 75 seats. A distant second finish for Mark Rutte's VVD(sitting PM) winning 10 seats. About 20 parties competed in total.

Small but significant gains for the Animal Party. Volt and the new right wing party Ja21 (a spin off of Forum for Democracy) enter the senate with about 2 to 3 seats each. The big winner of the previous election, Forum for Democracy drops from 12 to 2 or 3 seats.

A crushing defeat for them, Christian Democrats, Wilders, Socialist and pro-EU parties. As well as pro-Erdogan party DENK not winning a seat and Forum for Democracy spin off BVNL not winning a seat.
🤴

Potato

  • Senior's Member
  • Senior Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13280 on: March 15, 2023, 08:27:43 PM »
What does that mean? A general movement back towards the centre or a continued movement to niche patties on the fringes like everywhere else in the world?
Spud

team filler

  • filler
  • filler
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13281 on: March 15, 2023, 10:42:19 PM »
https://twitter.com/EndGameWW3/status/1634239990354853898

China has brokered a deal between Iran and Saudi Arabia.

Anthony Blinken remains the dumbest motherfucker on the planet who still somehow has a job.
:delicious
*****

james

  • Donate to the JAMES FUND
  • Senior Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13282 on: March 16, 2023, 10:54:32 AM »
French President Emmanuel Macron on Thursday resorted to using special constitutional powers to push his plan to raise the retirement age to 64 from 62 through the lower house of parliament.

Grab your popcorn folks, the cars on fire create a beautiful evening glow
:O

Sman

  • Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13283 on: March 16, 2023, 12:04:01 PM »
French President Emmanuel Macron on Thursday resorted to using special constitutional powers to push his plan to raise the retirement age to 64 from 62 through the lower house of parliament.

Grab your popcorn folks, the cars on fire create a beautiful evening glow

Why set the cars on fire when there are tons of trash piling up (because of other strikes), just waiting to be set ablaze.

 :delicious


Pissy F Benny

  • Is down with the sickness
  • Senior Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13284 on: March 16, 2023, 01:31:46 PM »
What does that mean? A general movement back towards the centre or a continued movement to niche patties on the fringes like everywhere else in the world?

Sounds like they want a return to feudalism or some shit :thinking
(ice)


Potato

  • Senior's Member
  • Senior Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13286 on: March 16, 2023, 03:14:26 PM »
The Russians have given up on even trying to tell believable lies. The people they're communicating with don't care anyway. Western tankies, the controlled eastern masses, and anti-US Europeans don't give a shit.
Spud

benjipwns

  • i'm not all my mistakes, no matter what they say about it
  • Senior Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13287 on: March 16, 2023, 03:19:58 PM »
What does that mean? A general movement back towards the centre or a continued movement to niche patties on the fringes like everywhere else in the world?
I think you need to look at how that part of Europe has done things forever, first one is the current Dutch House:


« Last Edit: March 16, 2023, 03:24:19 PM by benjipwns »

Potato

  • Senior's Member
  • Senior Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13288 on: March 16, 2023, 03:51:02 PM »
What does that mean? A general movement back towards the centre or a continued movement to niche patties on the fringes like everywhere else in the world?
I think you need to look at how that part of Europe has done things forever, first one is the current Dutch House:
(Image removed from quote.)
(Image removed from quote.)
(Image removed from quote.)
I'm aware of the multiparty composition of most European parliaments. What I'm asking about is whether there is a movement among those parties back towards the centre or a continued shift to the fringes.
Spud

benjipwns

  • i'm not all my mistakes, no matter what they say about it
  • Senior Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13289 on: March 16, 2023, 03:54:30 PM »
I'm aware of the multiparty composition of most European parliaments.
Yeah, not what I was illustrating about the Low Countries and Denmark. These parties don't exist to move "back towards the center" or anything like that and never have. There's already "center" parties if you want to vote for those.

Nintex

  • Literally a threat to democracy
  • Senior Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13290 on: March 16, 2023, 04:16:32 PM »
What does that mean? A general movement back towards the centre or a continued movement to niche patties on the fringes like everywhere else in the world?

It depends on your perspective. This is what the party looks like with Caroline (the leader) in the middle.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
[close]

In an era where most political leaders and parties try to model themselves after Obama or Hillary Clinton she insists they stay 'normal' and grounded.
Having just won a single seat in the previous election to represent the farmers in parliament, she worked hard to learn the ropes of national politics.

The party platform is a mix of both right and left wing ideas and they don't consider themselves a right wing party. They very much focus on local issues, such as keeping services like healthcare and public transport available in rural areas.
It is what expanded her appeal beyond just the farmers. It's the idea that someone stands up for the common man and the issues the politicians in the Hague don't seem to care about or are unable to fix no matter how small or insignificant.
They call this "de menselijke maat" or "the human scale". The government should trust and work for, not against the people, that sort of thing. The right wing opposition mostly represented by Wilders and FvD lost a lot of votes to her but so did the Socialists and Christian Democrats. The ruling parties really fucked up this campaign. The minister of housing for example met with a bunch of young people who can't find a home and one of them started to list all the things that she tried and he told her: "Have you tried to find a rich boyfriend?" . The finance minister during the debate said: "People need to accept that expropriation is just a part of life" as a comment on her plans to expropriate the farmers.

The left is very much against the BBB because they don't want to expropriate the farmers, tax meat, ban fishing or do other things that the left considers 'essential' to save the climate. However the problem for the left is that they've pretty much supported this government every step of the way. The biggest BBB opponent ran on a platform of: "If these people get more power, our plans won't continue" which is exactly what most of the country wanted to happen. Another big factor is that Mark Rutte is a soulless bureaucrat. Many times he's confronted with scandals like children dying in refugee camps or children being removed from their parents because they've been wrongly accused of tax fraud. And he always says something like: "That's terrible, but the economy has grown by 0.5% so things are going really well!" and when utterly shocked people follow up with: "Do you actually care?" he says: "Yes, some things go wrong but whe shouldn't lose sight of the things that work out well!" . The right also had no answer, with COVID gone the FvD platform is a mixed bag of anti-woke, anti-war and conspiracy talking points. The expropriation of farmers overshadowed migration so Wilders couldn't get any traction either. The FvD tried to label BBB as 'controlled opposition' just another tool of the government to stay in power but even they don't believe that.

The biggest risk is that like parties that exploded in popularity so quickly before (LPF,FvD) the BBB falls apart. But there are currently no signs that it will follow the same trajectory as those other parties.
Despite having a platform and specific demands, she's also not against working with other parties. I don't think there's a movement like this anywhere in the world. When the journalists visited their party office today there wasn't any fancy catering. Just her son baking eggs for everyone. When they ask her if this is the best thing she could hope for she says: "I wish my late husband was still here to celebrate with me".
A genuine, authentic, normal person in politics :mindblown
🤴

benjipwns

  • i'm not all my mistakes, no matter what they say about it
  • Senior Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13291 on: March 16, 2023, 04:19:37 PM »
The minister of housing for example met with a bunch of young people who can't find a home and one of them started to list all the things that she tried and he told her: "Have you tried to find a rich boyfriend?"
Well, did she?

Nintex

  • Literally a threat to democracy
  • Senior Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13292 on: March 16, 2023, 04:31:12 PM »
before I forget, I didn't vote for the BBB farming lady, it was too normie for me.

I voted for absolute chaos
🤴

Nintex

  • Literally a threat to democracy
  • Senior Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13293 on: March 16, 2023, 05:56:34 PM »
French President Emmanuel Macron on Thursday resorted to using special constitutional powers to push his plan to raise the retirement age to 64 from 62 through the lower house of parliament.

Grab your popcorn folks, the cars on fire create a beautiful evening glow

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1636479988277948416

https://twitter.com/AlertesInfos/status/1636457407155937295

 :playa

French car dealers :money
🤴

Potato

  • Senior's Member
  • Senior Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13294 on: March 16, 2023, 07:23:09 PM »
Can't sell cars that have been burned too

 :patel
Spud


HardcoreRetro

  • Punk Mushi no Onna
  • Senior Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13296 on: March 17, 2023, 01:22:45 PM »
before I forget, I didn't vote for the BBB farming lady, it was too normie for me.

I voted for absolute chaos

VVD?

I voted for the socialist party once again. Couldn't in good conscience vote for BBB with how that party is treating the nitrogen problems.

Nintex

  • Literally a threat to democracy
  • Senior Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13297 on: March 17, 2023, 05:30:11 PM »
The SP was actually on my short list too I like some SP MP's like Renske Leijten and Peter Kwint. I didn't really decide until the last minute. Any of the ruling parties were ruled out for me, in general I don't like these 'old' boomer parties, not even the PVV. In the past I used to vote for D66 until they abolished the referendum after the Ukraine referendum and I'm glad I did because shortly after they brought in Kaag.  :yuck

In my view our country is basically held hostage by boomers desperately holding on to their riches, power and houses and they've denied younger people a chance to build up their lives. I 'deal' with these people every day. They attempt to pay as little for any work as possible or have a female assistant do all the work while making out like bandits themselves owning multiple houses and driving SUV's. They act like they're superior, yet they can't open a PDF. Someone like Jesse Klaver who "leads" GroenLinks is just another puppet doing their bidding. It is beyond ridiculous that we have to pay 1 billion a year to keep the public broadcast channels in the air, which only produces boomer drivel, corruption and now abuse. I often joked to co-workers that I'd be surprised if anyone without dentures would vote in this election. The campaign was all about boomer shit.

I reluctantly voted for FvD because it's still the only party that mostly represents younger people and these elections were mostly about local issues. 40% of FvD voters from 4 years ago didn't vote at all. Mostly younger voters obviously. Had they voted FvD would've been about on par with D66 or CDA. It's crazy how things changed in little over 4 years. I know many people dislike Baudet and his party now (despite having voted for him in the past) but I'm actually glad he didn't "gift" Joost Eerdmans and Nanninga 1 million voters for yet another boomer party on a platter. Still it's time for him to become party chairman and pass on the leadership but not to the Marmot.

And for the water thing I voted for the PvdA (labour) to balance the force.
 
Shame it was two seperate ballots if it was just one ballot the vote counter would've been like
:wut

Anyway I think Rutte is going to continue on the current course anyway. He'll just get support from the PvdA/GL to ensure the BBB can't cancel their climate agenda and when those parties don't have the votes he'll shop at JA21 or the Animal Party and Volt.
The next election will probably be a full on VVD(city/west)/BBB(rural/east) brawl that Rutte will win by absorbing the D66/CDA/CU/PvdA/GL 'strategic' anti-BBB votes because he pushed on with the climate regulations and some of us don't want a farming lady to represent us.
As much I would enjoy a meeting between US President Trump and Dutch Prime Minister Caroline van der Plas even I would vote for Rutte if it would come to that.
🤴

benjipwns

  • i'm not all my mistakes, no matter what they say about it
  • Senior Member

Potato

  • Senior's Member
  • Senior Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13299 on: March 18, 2023, 10:31:11 PM »
before I forget, I didn't vote for the BBB farming lady, it was too normie for me.

I voted for absolute chaos

VVD?

I voted for the socialist party once again. Couldn't in good conscience vote for BBB with how that party is treating the nitrogen problems.
Checks out. Virgil and the Liverpool defence have been total chaos this season.
Spud


team filler

  • filler
  • filler
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13301 on: March 20, 2023, 04:09:34 PM »
 :dead
*****

Nintex

  • Literally a threat to democracy
  • Senior Member
🤴

Raist

  • Winner of the Baited Award 2018
  • Senior Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13303 on: March 21, 2023, 07:27:47 PM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65012965

Quote
Partygate: I misled MPs but not intentionally, says Boris Johnson

Quote
Boris Johnson has accepted he misled Parliament over Covid rule-breaking parties in Downing Street, but denied he did it on purpose.

The former prime minister has published a 52-page defence of his actions ahead of a grilling by MPs on Wednesday.

 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Nintex

  • Literally a threat to democracy
  • Senior Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13304 on: March 21, 2023, 07:58:58 PM »
Quote
52-page defence of his actions

I see Boris has found Chat GPT
🤴

benjipwns

  • i'm not all my mistakes, no matter what they say about it
  • Senior Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13305 on: March 21, 2023, 10:22:35 PM »
Rupert Murdoch Ė Australiaís biggest media mogul Ė succeeded where Vladimir Putin failed. He turned Americans against each other, promoting anger, hatred and lies.
:era

Apparently this all means the Aussie government needs to investigate something or other to decide how to further limit freedom of speech in Australia:
Quote
Putin must have been hugging himself in delight. No amount of Russian interference could have achieved this.

...

These events alone justify the rigorous inquiry that only a royal commission can bring. Just this week Australians have been reminded of how dependent we are on our American ally. Indeed, the AUKUS agreement has doubled down on that dependence. So the subversion of American democracy threatens Australia, and Australian security, as much as it threatens the United States.

...

Most Australians, like many Americans a decade ago, would barely have noticed this happening. They donít watch Sky or buy Murdochís newspapers. News Corpís power to decide elections has diminished. But politicians remain fearful of News Corpís retribution, its power to set the broader media agenda, and its influence on the political right is growing. The burgeoning Sky-aligned faction is driving moderate voters away from the Liberal and National parties, or encouraging self-radicalisation in order to fit in. And that poses a major problem for our democracy.

For the Coalition parties, this is a crucial moment.

The pace of this transformation over the past five years has been breathtaking. As seasoned leaders in politics, it has surprised even us. The game has changed. Our democracy is still one of competing parties but, unless action is taken, it risks becoming one of competing realities.

We believe a royal commission into media concentration is now needed to defend our democracy. That is why we have agreed to join Australians for a Murdoch Royal Commission as its co-chairs, succeeding Kevin Rudd.

This is not a Left-Right issue, we come from both sides of the political divide. Freedom of the press is sacred, but it can no longer be a shield of convenience for bad-faith actors who knowingly lie. We do not presume to have the answers Ė thatís what the commission is for Ė but we do know that the Foxification of Australia wonít be halted by piecemeal media reforms that canít pass parliament unless they are signed off by Rupert.

We stand ready to make this case, and we need the continuing support of all Australians who value our democracy to help deliver the message to Canberra: if you have the courage to act, we will support you.

Skullfuckers Anonymous

  • Will hunt bullies for fruit baskets. PM for details.
  • Senior Member

Potato

  • Senior's Member
  • Senior Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13307 on: March 22, 2023, 12:26:25 AM »
Media ownership concentration in Australia is one of the highest in the developed world.

High concentration of media ownership being a threat to democracy and freedom of speech is not really up for debate.
Spud

Nintex

  • Literally a threat to democracy
  • Senior Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13308 on: March 22, 2023, 03:12:09 PM »
https://twitter.com/VALERIEinNYT/status/1638299403235520522

They captured the audio, China owns Russia now. Putin is Xi's bottom bitch.
🤴

team filler

  • filler
  • filler
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13309 on: March 22, 2023, 03:21:55 PM »
putin send in his double to do the bottoming  :hump :putin
*****

Raist

  • Winner of the Baited Award 2018
  • Senior Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13310 on: March 22, 2023, 04:22:14 PM »


Nintex

  • Literally a threat to democracy
  • Senior Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13312 on: March 24, 2023, 06:19:34 PM »
https://twitter.com/AlArabiya_Eng/status/1639385752047067136

 :biden *pokes with stick* come on man do war


The United States does not seek conflict with Iran, BUT
🤴


Nintex

  • Literally a threat to democracy
  • Senior Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13314 on: March 25, 2023, 09:55:59 AM »


Syria is attacking our bases :six:

Wait, those bases are in their country aren't you attacking them :wut

That doesn't count :six:
🤴

benjipwns

  • i'm not all my mistakes, no matter what they say about it
  • Senior Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13315 on: March 25, 2023, 02:56:09 PM »
The "Iranian-backed forces" is a nice touch since the Syrian state is backed by Iran. :delicious

benjipwns

  • i'm not all my mistakes, no matter what they say about it
  • Senior Member

Nintex

  • Literally a threat to democracy
  • Senior Member
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13317 on: March 25, 2023, 07:57:09 PM »
There was another one of those clowns that was often pushed by Adam Kinzinger. It turned out that he was never in Ukraine and it was all a larp  :lol
🤴

team filler

  • filler
  • filler
Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #13318 on: March 25, 2023, 08:48:06 PM »
how much they paying for volunteers over there?  :money
*****