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benjipwns

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=121781113#post121781113

Why does Iran, which has the least tidy "CIA overthrew democratically elected leftist government for for oppressive thug to help corporations" story always get it?

The fucking Shah also supported nationalization of oil and most of Mossadeghs' other "leftist" reforms (and implemented a number of them after the coup, like land reforms, expanded rights, etc. until the later 1970s) and Mossadegh wasn't exactly "elected" considering he basically eliminated Parliament and assumed emergency powers prior to the "election" which didn't seat the Parliament, had been jailing opponents, etc. Nor was he even close to a socialist like say Allende.

Iran's last 150+ years have been struggles against outside powers (Ottomans/UK/US/Russia-USSR) and struggles between internal blocs (Islamists/Royalists/Democratic/Modernizers/Communists for a short period) with all sorts of oppression for everybody. The last Shah wasn't as rough as his father even. And the Islamic Revolution put him to shame pretty quickly.

The best part is the CIA had to "convince" the Shah to support the coup and the whole thing started over dispute of the amount of the British ownership of the oil and it wound up being more owned by a bunch of American and other foreign companies.  :lol

The real shitty Western intervention in Iran in my opinion has always been the one in 1941 even if it got rid of Reza Shah.

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Is this you, Atramental?

http://www.thecoli.com/posts/9301413/

Atra dished his Coli handle here awhile back.

given his prevalence to pretend to be a girl from tumblr, revealing his name on the bore, a site that coli knows of, it bad news. Don't fuck with those nerds, and don't reveal who you are on this site.
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benjipwns

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=121781113#post121781113

Why does Iran, which has the least tidy "CIA overthrew democratically elected leftist government for for oppressive thug to help corporations" story always get it?

The fucking Shah also supported nationalization of oil and most of Mossadeghs' other "leftist" reforms (and implemented a number of them after the coup, like land reforms, expanded rights, etc. until the later 1970s) and Mossadegh wasn't exactly "elected" considering he basically eliminated Parliament and assumed emergency powers prior to the "election" which didn't seat the Parliament, had been jailing opponents, etc. Nor was he even close to a socialist like say Allende.

Iran's last 150+ years have been struggles against outside powers (Ottomans/UK/US/Russia-USSR) and struggles between internal blocs (Islamists/Royalists/Democratic/Modernizers/Communists for a short period) with all sorts of oppression for everybody. The last Shah wasn't as rough as his father even. And the Islamic Revolution put him to shame pretty quickly.

The best part is the CIA had to "convince" the Shah to support the coup and the whole thing started over dispute of the amount of the British ownership of the oil and it wound up being more owned by a bunch of American and other foreign companies.  :lol

The real shitty Western intervention in Iran in my opinion has always been the one in 1941 even if it got rid of Reza Shah.

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=121781113#post121781113

Why does Iran, which has the least tidy "CIA overthrew democratically elected leftist government for for oppressive thug to help corporations" story always get it?

The fucking Shah also supported nationalization of oil and most of Mossadeghs' other "leftist" reforms (and implemented a number of them after the coup, like land reforms, expanded rights, etc. until the later 1970s) and Mossadegh wasn't exactly "elected" considering he basically eliminated Parliament and assumed emergency powers prior to the "election" which didn't seat the Parliament, had been jailing opponents, etc. Nor was he even close to a socialist like say Allende.

Iran's last 150+ years have been struggles against outside powers (Ottomans/UK/US/Russia-USSR) and struggles between internal blocs (Islamists/Royalists/Democratic/Modernizers/Communists for a short period) with all sorts of oppression for everybody. The last Shah wasn't as rough as his father even. And the Islamic Revolution put him to shame pretty quickly.

The best part is the CIA had to "convince" the Shah to support the coup and the whole thing started over dispute of the amount of the British ownership of the oil and it wound up being more owned by a bunch of American and other foreign companies.  :lol

The real shitty Western intervention in Iran in my opinion has always been the one in 1941 even if it got rid of Reza Shah.

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benjipwns

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White people are terrible news at 11?!?!?
Now you've done it.

i actually read that entire post
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Why was ChrisDorner banned?
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Why was ChrisDorner banned?

probably for being a Sony feg.
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benjipwns

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Why was ChrisDorner banned?
He shot like ten people and then hid in a cabin in the woods.

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=121823824&postcount=8

yet another example of internet communists being soft frauds  (Image removed from quote.)

Easy to throw stones at glass houses when you have none of your own to call home.

@benji I like how APK whines about drive by posters but incessantly posts in a half-assed manner about serious subjects, likely from his phone as they are always full of obnoxious autofill errors. "moral enemies" "over through," quality posting, mate.

I think treating Mosaddegh as just another front in the Cold War is oversimplifying the larger anti-colonial struggle that took place in the predominantly Muslim parts of South Asia, Maghreb, and the Near East. He and Reza Shah had more in common with Mustafa Kemal in terms of vision for their nation-state than they did with Ali Shariati.

benjipwns

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I'm just going to say this: Marx didn't foresee Taco Bell and so the Communist movements never accounted for it. A Taco Bell didn't open in Russia until 1993.

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benjipwns

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I think treating Mosaddegh as just another front in the Cold War is oversimplifying the larger anti-colonial struggle that took place in the predominantly Muslim parts of South Asia, Maghreb, and the Near East. He and Reza Shah had more in common with Mustafa Kemal in terms of vision for their nation-state than they did with Ali Shariati.
Yeah, the nationalization of oil in Iran wasn't really a socialist ideological thing as much as it was a nebulous nationalist Iran should own its resources not more of these gorram foreigners type of deal. And the last Shah's and the "opposition" were more in agreement with modernization/secularization/Europeanization/etc. and deliberately trying to play all the powers off one another. Mosaddegh was basically trying to pull off his own little internal coup and the Brits used it to trick the CIA into intervening.

The Islamic Revolution rode to power on something similar (a kind of "independent Iran" platform) before going "hey remember when we said all that Islamic State/Rule by God's law stuff, we really did mean it brehs, shoulda read the fine print"

EDIT: A good example of Reza Shah's vision being similar to Ataturk was his demand that everyone stop calling it fucking Persia, it's Iran and has been for millenia dammit!
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http://www.thecoli.com/threads/males-eating-around-you-unappreciation-thread.232973/

Watched my best friend in high school eat a taco bell burrito in a car with me once and it was a horrible experience.


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She's over 30 and just had a baby man. That's life. Let her live.

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nah breh
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She's over 30 and just had a baby man. That's life. Let her live.

She'll lose the weight in time for her next movie or show. That's how things work in Hollywood.

That being said, non rich white chicks do tend to age poorly brehs. And you know I love milfs but it's true. The face starts going first. Meanwhile black don't crack until 40+ usually.
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Bang white chicks, marry black chicks.
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She's over 30 and just had a baby man. That's life. Let her live.

She'll lose the weight in time for her next movie or show. That's how things work in Hollywood.

That being said, non rich white chicks do tend to age poorly brehs. And you know I love milfs but it's true. The face starts going first. Meanwhile black don't crack until 40+ usually.

Blasians age the absolute best I've found.
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She's over 30 and just had a baby man. That's life. Let her live.

She'll lose the weight in time for her next movie or show. That's how things work in Hollywood.

That being said, non rich white chicks do tend to age poorly brehs. And you know I love milfs but it's true. The face starts going first. Meanwhile black don't crack until 40+ usually.

Most non-rich white chicks age poorly because they fake bake frequently, eat like shit, drink lots of alcohol, and don't get enough sleep.

As I get into my 30s, I'm watching all of those above things for myself, like making sure I get a full eight hours of sleep, little or no alcohol, and eat a pretty strict diet.
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She's over 30 and just had a baby man. That's life. Let her live.

She'll lose the weight in time for her next movie or show. That's how things work in Hollywood.

That being said, non rich white chicks do tend to age poorly brehs. And you know I love milfs but it's true. The face starts going first. Meanwhile black don't crack until 40+ usually.

Most non-rich white chicks age poorly because they fake bake frequently, eat like shit, drink lots of alcohol, and don't get enough sleep.

As I get into my 30s, I'm watching all of those above things for myself, like making sure I get a full eight hours of sleep, little or no alcohol, and eat a pretty strict diet.

there's a bus grill with your name on it.

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I'll never understand why people ask for relationship advise on GAF. If everyone followed the advise they got by the majority they'd be single for their entire life.
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She's over 30 and just had a baby man. That's life. Let her live.

She'll lose the weight in time for her next movie or show. That's how things work in Hollywood.

That being said, non rich white chicks do tend to age poorly brehs. And you know I love milfs but it's true. The face starts going first. Meanwhile black don't crack until 40+ usually.

Most non-rich white chicks age poorly because they fake bake frequently, eat like shit, drink lots of alcohol, and don't get enough sleep.

As I get into my 30s, I'm watching all of those above things for myself, like making sure I get a full eight hours of sleep, little or no alcohol, and eat a pretty strict diet.

Exactly. I just don't get it. Especially now that 40 isn't really considered "old" anymore, beauty wise. You can still look great well into your 40s without being rich - all you have to do is treat your body decent. That tanning shit just guarantees wrinklles and bad skin/complexion.

I notice the younger folks at work drink ridiculous amounts of alcohol whereas our older colleagues barely drink at all. I drink some porter beer every few weeks but I could never drink that shit daily on a consistent basis. Just not worth it.
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She's over 30 and just had a baby man. That's life. Let her live.

She'll lose the weight in time for her next movie or show. That's how things work in Hollywood.

That being said, non rich white chicks do tend to age poorly brehs. And you know I love milfs but it's true. The face starts going first. Meanwhile black don't crack until 40+ usually.

Most non-rich white chicks age poorly because they fake bake frequently, eat like shit, drink lots of alcohol, and don't get enough sleep.

As I get into my 30s, I'm watching all of those above things for myself, like making sure I get a full eight hours of sleep, little or no alcohol, and eat a pretty strict diet.
living in north dakota for a couple of years, I can attest to this. tons of people thought I was years younger than my age. half of the 40-50 year old staff I worked with would smoke constantly, come to work hung over mondays and thursdays*, eat the garbage potluck food all the time, and self-tan like crazy, and never exercise. shit just ain't good for your body.

*seriously at a certain point in your life getting hammered in the middle of the week is just not a good look.
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=858580

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...right in the middle of the relationship? And also she pulls it after you 2 have had sex a bunch

Context...So me and my gf have been together 7 months now (I'm 26, she is 23)...we had sex after 5th date and have been having sex pretty regularly (avg is about 3-4 times per week)

According to her, I am the best bf and best lover by far she has ever had.

She has 3 kids out of wedlock (1 has been adopted 16 when she had him and she pays child support for, the other lives with his dad most of the time, she has a 3 year old he lives with her)

Bc of child support, her paycheck are half the size of mine, so I pay for pretty much everything when we go out, and I recently paid for her glasses and contacts

I stay at her place like 5-6 nights a week, to help with her kid. On my days off I watch him too (it's difficult...he wears her completely out

So about a week and a half ago I notice she is coming home more tired and I don't think anything of it, bc she works a lot too. So I let her nap and just watch tv. I help around the house and clean a bit, so she doesn't have to. This goes on for about 4 days. On the 4th day I tell her I want her and I to shower together, she is fine with it and says yes...then about an hour after we get back to her place, she just takes a shower on her own...when she comes out she says "sorry I just really felt gross, but don't worry, I'm still gonna take a shower with you", so an hour later, I say I'm ready and she says "i don't feel like taking another shower, I'm sorry"

Day 5 rolls around, I tell her I want some lovin tonight after work, she says yes, then when the time comes, she says I need to talk to you about something and you will probably hate me for it...so she drops that bomb saying she feels guilty everytime we have sex (even when it's her idea), she says she wants to be a better person and that she loves God (she mentioned that she believed in God a few times, but since we were having sex, I figured she was one of those who doesn't follow the no sex before marriage, since it's so common), and that she sinned a lot in her younger days (did pills bad mostly weed), partied a lot (drank, blacked out, etc...), and she just doesn't want the world to end one day soon and go to hell for all the things she does...she does a lot of good things (helps out her family a ton, is nice to just about everyone, gives money to the homeless on the streets, etc...)

I see myself marrying her one day, so I begrudgingly accepted it, right now we do everything except intercourse and oral (as I just found out last night). She said she feels bad bc sex she felt was the only thing she had to offer me and counter everything I do for her (I also let her use my car, pay her cell phone bill, gas sometimes)


My question to Gaf is, has your significant other ever pulled this on you after you 2 have already had sex a bunch? And what did you?

Get married to religious extremists brehs
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She's over 30 and just had a baby man. That's life. Let her live.

She'll lose the weight in time for her next movie or show. That's how things work in Hollywood.

That being said, non rich white chicks do tend to age poorly brehs. And you know I love milfs but it's true. The face starts going first. Meanwhile black don't crack until 40+ usually.

Most non-rich white chicks age poorly because they fake bake frequently, eat like shit, drink lots of alcohol, and don't get enough sleep.

As I get into my 30s, I'm watching all of those above things for myself, like making sure I get a full eight hours of sleep, little or no alcohol, and eat a pretty strict diet.

You and those girls should add moisturizer on top of that list of things to do. You will age much better.
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She's over 30 and just had a baby man. That's life. Let her live.

She'll lose the weight in time for her next movie or show. That's how things work in Hollywood.

That being said, non rich white chicks do tend to age poorly brehs. And you know I love milfs but it's true. The face starts going first. Meanwhile black don't crack until 40+ usually.

Most non-rich white chicks age poorly because they fake bake frequently, eat like shit, drink lots of alcohol, and don't get enough sleep.

As I get into my 30s, I'm watching all of those above things for myself, like making sure I get a full eight hours of sleep, little or no alcohol, and eat a pretty strict diet.

You and those girls should add moisturizer on top of that list of things to do. You will age much better.

Yep, always be mosturizing.

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"turn on with a butter knife". oh man, I know exactly what that dude is talking about.  :lol
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I still have an old tv. Not butter knife old but it definitely has a booty. Sony crt tv. I'm going to upgrade to a flat screen this year, I swear. I'll just get a 32inch for my room I guess, I don't watch enough tv to justify something bigger. I just need it for sports, mainly, and Netflix.

I notice the colors and sharpness of Netflix is sooo meh on my tv lol.
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Remember on old sdtvs when you'd hook up a video game system to it and the tv would be ruined with red, green, and yellow all over the tv?!

Had three tvs go through that shit!
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I keep an old TV around for old consoles  :(

It's weird though. I pretty much only keep my nice TV around for football, wwe, and video games. I just canceled netflix cause I don't even use that anymore.
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I keep an old TV around for old consoles  :(

It's weird though. I pretty much only keep my nice TV around for football, wwe, and video games. I just canceled netflix cause I don't even use that anymore.

I barely use it either. In fact I'm behind on watching shit in general. Haven't finished the new Louie season even though I really enjoyed the eps I watched, haven't finished the new season of 24, can't get myself to try The Strain or The Bridge (both of which look interesting), etc.

I've never been this excited or antsy for an NFL season to start. And I'm also super excited about college football starting due to the start of the playoff system. I guess I can't concentrate on anything else, tv wise. Also Downton Abbey and Homeland return in the fall alongside football so I'm excited about that too.
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Yeah, the nationalization of oil in Iran wasn't really a socialist ideological thing as much as it was a nebulous nationalist Iran should own its resources not more of these gorram foreigners type of deal. And the last Shah's and the "opposition" were more in agreement with modernization/secularization/Europeanization/etc. and deliberately trying to play all the powers off one another. Mosaddegh was basically trying to pull off his own little internal coup and the Brits used it to trick the CIA into intervening.

The Islamic Revolution rode to power on something similar (a kind of "independent Iran" platform) before going "hey remember when we said all that Islamic State/Rule by God's law stuff, we really did mean it brehs, shoulda read the fine print"

EDIT: A good example of Reza Shah's vision being similar to Ataturk was his demand that everyone stop calling it fucking Persia, it's Iran and has been for millenia dammit!

Not quite nebulous. To catch up with the West, many predominantly Muslim countries engaged in defensive developmentalism. (Modernizing to defend themselves from further imperialist incursions.) A problem with defensive developmentalism though was that it often relied on shortsighted crash financing of modernization with cash cropping, which not only further integrated these places into the global periphery, but made them incredibly vulnerable to market fluctuations as they were imprudent with government finances in these crash modernizations / expected cash cropping to be sustainable longer than it was. (The most infamous example, imo, being Egypt under the Pasha khedives. Think the Southern United States will never produce cotton again while building opera houses brehs. :lol)

So, while realizing that modernization still needed to be done to restore sovereignty, and to inject this post with a touch of the Marxiness, in Iran the Pahlavis and their successors arrived at the intellectual antithesis to the failed thesis--import substitution industrialization. (I guess this should be contextualized against the larger anti-globalization movement that manifested as a kind of pseudo-autarky happening elsewhere. (cf. Nazism, Italian fascism) This was not a good time for internationalism generally speaking.) However, it was put it into practice with synthesis--crash financing the import substitution industrialization with the 20th century's version of cash cropping: oil exportation. (Reza Shah also expropriated a lot of land from ulama and landlords, which was probably not the smartest move in retrospect.)

While the Iranian Revolution did ride in on an anti-imperialist wave, it wasn't quite the same sort of one. It was of a cultural and intellectual sense, not so much a bureaucratic or economic one. While there was a broad coalition of groups that overthrew the Pahlavis, the faction that eventually won was able to win because it could muster the broadest base of support by appealing to cultural authenticity (the anti-imperialism I spoke of previously) and to urban bazaaris who had risen in prominence as the populace was extensively urbanized by import substitution modernization (ulama tended to be drawn from this socio-economic group). I don't think this broad coalition had any illusions about the kind of people they were putting in power, ulama had been part of their everyday lives for quite some time, whether it be as their religious or commercial leaders. (Ulama would oversee contracts, that sort of thing.)

The people who got duped were the other factions of the revolution, but that's the dangerous game you play when you play at revolution.

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I barely use it either. In fact I'm behind on watching shit in general. Haven't finished the new Louie season even though I really enjoyed the eps I watched, haven't finished the new season of 24, can't get myself to try The Strain or The Bridge (both of which look interesting), etc.

I've never been this excited or antsy for an NFL season to start. And I'm also super excited about college football starting due to the start of the playoff system. I guess I can't concentrate on anything else, tv wise. Also Downton Abbey and Homeland return in the fall alongside football so I'm excited about that too.
I feel the same way about football, cannot wait for it to start. Sucks I'll be working Sundays but at least I work from home so I can have the games on in the background.

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"Yes, let me consult with a group of manchildren who struggle with maintaining normal day to day sanity when their favorite video game console doesn't sell as much as last month."

The best part is there are basically two groups who post advice in them the most

single people not getting poon
married people not getting poon

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I use a CRT to watch Seinfeld reruns on cable. I use my HDTV for my PS3.
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Used to use a tiny CRT for FPS games on my 360.

Oddly enough, my accuracy was so much better with less screen & resolution. :derp


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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=858667

Ball bugs.
even trust fund adults get bed bugs.

oh lord i saw the gif. ticks lol :holeup
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lol yeah those aren't ticks

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=858667

Ball bugs.

lawl

"Hey GAF, I got ticks all over my balls from going into the woods, whoops."

"Those are crabs, breh."

:lol Having a thread about bugs eating your junk backfire.  :lol
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Can't trust those garden hoes.

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Tell the world you got crabs instead of just google searching some shit.


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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=121886275&postcount=86

:umad

OP started off with the George Foreman Grill, an appliance I've seriously never really heard a complaint about.

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George Foreman is a pretty awesome appliance for a lazy person such as myself.

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I don't like the Foreman because of what it does to my precious fat. Otherwise it is a top notch appliance.
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Griddler > Foreman Grill

But either way the counter top grill is the best thing to ever happen to lazy fucks. Now people of all motivation types can be uplifted out of the microwave ghetto.

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I like those heated sandwhich presses with a flat surface.
Makes for a much fancier lunch treat.
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Speaking of NFL season
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/throw-directtv-in-the-bushes-update-complete-new-method-in-op.140770/page-59#post-9304782

 :tocry

Actually it worked for me all season. Someone kept posting a new code every week, exclusively for the Coli, and I used that well into the playoffs.

This season I'm probably going to probably just buy the Sunday ticket.

btw we're going to run a fantasy league again this year brehs, so jackfromstatefarm and nachobro...make sure to get in on the action. I know our NFL thread isn't nearly as busy as the GAF one but it gets pretty damn fun during the season.
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be careful with sunday ticket too. that shit was busted as fuck for half of last season. gonna wait til after the first week before i decide to get it.