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Felicia Day has finally weighed in:http://thisfeliciaday.tumblr.com/post/100700417809/the-only-thing-i-have-to-say-about-gamer-gateJust makes me goddamned sad that there are so many GG shit heels out there who are FAILING TO ENGAGE THEIR BRAINS, and don’t see the hypocrisy in this path down which they’ve been lead.TL;DR summary is beautiful in her closing paragraphs: QuoteI have lived a large part of my life ruled by negative emotions, mainly fear and anxiety. From my experience of working through those issues, I have this to say: Steeping yourself in the emotions that you’re surrounding yourself with, of hatred and bile and contempt, is ultimately not destructive to others like you want it to be. It’s destructive to yourself. I know it feels good to belong to a group, to feel righteous in belonging to a cause, but causing fear and pushing people away from gaming is not the way to go about doing it. Think through the repercussions of your actions and the people you are aligning yourself with. And think honestly about whether your actions are genuinely going to change gaming life for the better. Or whether they’re just going to make someone cross the street away from you. And away from something, ironically, that we both love.
I have lived a large part of my life ruled by negative emotions, mainly fear and anxiety. From my experience of working through those issues, I have this to say: Steeping yourself in the emotions that you’re surrounding yourself with, of hatred and bile and contempt, is ultimately not destructive to others like you want it to be. It’s destructive to yourself. I know it feels good to belong to a group, to feel righteous in belonging to a cause, but causing fear and pushing people away from gaming is not the way to go about doing it. Think through the repercussions of your actions and the people you are aligning yourself with. And think honestly about whether your actions are genuinely going to change gaming life for the better. Or whether they’re just going to make someone cross the street away from you. And away from something, ironically, that we both love.
Quote from: chronovore on October 23, 2014, 02:58:59 AMFelicia Day has finally weighed in:http://thisfeliciaday.tumblr.com/post/100700417809/the-only-thing-i-have-to-say-about-gamer-gateJust makes me goddamned sad that there are so many GG shit heels out there who are FAILING TO ENGAGE THEIR BRAINS, and don’t see the hypocrisy in this path down which they’ve been lead.TL;DR summary is beautiful in her closing paragraphs: QuoteI have lived a large part of my life ruled by negative emotions, mainly fear and anxiety. From my experience of working through those issues, I have this to say: Steeping yourself in the emotions that you’re surrounding yourself with, of hatred and bile and contempt, is ultimately not destructive to others like you want it to be. It’s destructive to yourself. I know it feels good to belong to a group, to feel righteous in belonging to a cause, but causing fear and pushing people away from gaming is not the way to go about doing it. Think through the repercussions of your actions and the people you are aligning yourself with. And think honestly about whether your actions are genuinely going to change gaming life for the better. Or whether they’re just going to make someone cross the street away from you. And away from something, ironically, that we both love.she was doxxed in the comments to this very postethics in game journalism, brehs
radical feminists and MSNBC
I still have no idea WTH is going on with this Gamergate thing, like I cant even figure out what anyone is arguing about
someone on my facebook legitimately cares about the ethics in journalism thing and has been a part of #gamersgate. She just suggested that there be a wikileaks version of gaming media.
Quote from: Queen of Ice on October 23, 2014, 12:49:58 PMsomeone on my facebook legitimately cares about the ethics in journalism thing and has been a part of #gamersgate. She just suggested that there be a wikileaks version of gaming media.Why? Who cares? WTF?
I think the whole response to GamerGate and the way people conduct themselves on either side is making me hate humanity as a whole.The response to GamerGate was to attack all gamers regardless of where they stand on the issue (I have never harassed a feminist critic of ANYTHING but I'm definitely a gamer). Then they react as predicted because they were attacked and its spun into a way that makes us all look bad.Then there's trolls who don't represent any viewpoint attacking people, knowing what it will do, but they somehow represent the entire gaming community.Then everyone ignores a certain board's involvement, despite political discussion having nothing to do with video games by saying its the entire gaming community at fault.But people will support GamerGate and take the bullet for people whose actions are spun into click bait by denying that it was not all squeaky clean.What the fuck.
The problem is that people who feel attacked are in denial of misogynists having anything to do with the movement.But they were still attacked while doing nothing wrong in most cases, so I can't blame them for the pushback.
As much as I feel Anita Sarkeesian has sort of hindered any sort of actual conversation about feminism in games by, well, not allowing it, you probably shouldn't support anything Aurini does. Guys is honestly an asshole. Legit classist. Jokes about beating women. Turns out he was in court for a for nerve pinching a woman. The list sorta goes on and on.So yeah, don't bother with the Sarkeesian Effect.
Quote from: BrandNew on October 23, 2014, 11:47:14 AMwhy am i not surprised jaydub is siding with gamergaters at this pointI too, would expect me to be dubious of any narrative pushed by radical feminists and MSNBC, just as I would expect many of you would be the sort of fools who lap that shit up.
why am i not surprised jaydub is siding with gamergaters at this point
Yup. Bubububu both sides.
Lemme guess Felicia got doxxed like 5 minutes after that was released.I'm convinced people still trying to quasi defend GG don't bathe.
GG really just feels like a bunch of sexually frustrated virgins and or people who are so socially inept they truly think someone like Quinn has/had the power to ruin gaming with her vagina. Like dudes who really don't understand sexual politics or are just so desperate to get laid themselves they're projecting all kinds of nonsense onto the population at large.
Quote from: Shadow Mod on October 23, 2014, 03:47:19 PMLemme guess Felicia got doxxed like 5 minutes after that was released.I'm convinced people still trying to quasi defend GG don't bathe.The girl I know who defends GG says that the Doxxers and misogynists are a minority from 4chan
“None of you fucking #gamergate tools tried to dox me, even after I tore you a new one. I’m not even a tough target…Instead, you go after a woman who wrote why your movement concerns her,” Kluwe said on Twitter.
Lemme guess Felicia got doxxed like 5 minutes after that was released.
You’d think that, having been bullied for their geekiness or nerdiness or whatever, the #GG guys would understand that it’s bad to bully people.
The bullied becoming the bullies isn't a new concept.
I wonder what Gabe and Tycho's take on gamergate is?spoiler (click to show/hide)No I don't[close]
isn't it usually gabe who has the fucking terrible views?
Quote from: Steve Contra on October 23, 2014, 04:59:02 PMI wonder what Gabe and Tycho's take on gamergate is?spoiler (click to show/hide)No I don't[close]"Harassing women is wrong but we understand because your feelings were hurt"half-distinguished mentally-challenged fellow, not the TurtleBasket full-distinguished mentally-challenged fellow
gamer's gate is no steam or even gog, that's for sure
By the way if you want to see an industry with near 0 ethical standards you should see what goes on in mine.
Quote from: Steve Contra on October 23, 2014, 06:58:01 PMBy the way if you want to see an industry with near 0 ethical standards you should see what goes on in mine.Bitch please. I'm a consultant.
Quote from: Steve Contra on October 23, 2014, 06:58:01 PMBy the way if you want to see an industry with near 0 ethical standards you should see what goes on in mine.How many dicks have you sucked tho?
