It's 20XX and people are mad online about Star War!

[Cerveza mas fina]

There is people itt thread that buy every Animal Crossing and Pokemon for 20 years but call Star Wars a limited franchise

 

Don't want to name shame

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[Himu]

There is people itt thread that buy every Animal Crossing and Pokemon for 20 years but call Star Wars a limited franchise

 

Don't want to name shame

It's a limited franchise.

it will always be: Empire, bad; rebels, good. It will always be an evil empire versus a rag tag group of rebels. It will always involve the Sith. It will always involve the Jedi. Despite taking place in a galaxy far away, the universe of Star Wars is itty bitty small. It isn't Star Trek, it isn't Cowboy Bebop, it isn't LOGH, it isn't Battlestar Galactica. It's a limited story that was told through three movies that has been expanded far past its expiration date. By contrast, Animal Crossing switched it up far more than Star Wars ever has with New Leaf. Show me evidence you can make Star Wars without Jedi or Sith. I was really hoping Rogue One would be that movie and then it ended the same way Star Wars always ends: Rebels vs Empire.

[agrajag]

some people treat SW as such srs business. If either of you people "didn't care" you wouldn't write screeds about how much Disney ruined it. I was upset by Game of Thrones, but I own that shit, I didn't hide behind some fake ambivalence.

I don't love the new Star Wars movies, but I'll probably go see each and every one of them, as they were a huge part of my childhood. And I will enjoy them for what they are, a mindless blockbuster l, and stuff my face with popcorn and nachos like a good American.

I went to see The Force Awakens opening night, because it seemed like a big deal, but that feeling dissipated. And that's ok. Maybe grown ass people shouldn't treat a new sequel in a long list of franchise installments as an event.

[Tasty]

There is people itt thread that buy every Animal Crossing and Pokemon for 20 years but call Star Wars a limited franchise

 

Don't want to name shame

The difference is, games are interactive, so even a game that's a 1:1 remake will still offer a different experience from your original playthrough.

Movies don't have that affordance.

[Himu]

some people treat SW as such srs business. If either of you people "didn't care" you wouldn't write screeds about how much Disney ruined it. I was upset by Game of Thrones, but I own that shit, I didn't hide behind some fake ambivalence.

I don't love the new Star Wars movies, but I'll probably go see each and every one of them, as they were a huge part of my childhood. And I will enjoy them for what they are, a mindless blockbuster l, and stuff my face with popcorn and nachos like a good American.

I went to see The Force Awakens opening night, because it seemed like a big deal, but that feeling dissipated. And that's ok. Maybe grown ass people shouldn't treat a new sequel in a long list of franchise installments as an event.

I don't see why talking about it means that we care.

We talk about it because we used to care. It should be pretty obvious that at one point in my life Star Wars was a pretty big, special thing to me. I also don't care about Final Fantasy anymore, but it was a special thing to me, and I still talk about it. I don't see how it's hard to understand how someone can discuss something and still be apathetic towards it. I just like talking. I also like talking shit.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Movies are also 2 hours not 30 hours

Animao Crossing and Pokemon are as much the same games now as they were 20 years ago. Same casts, same mechanics, same game. Whats the dif with SW?

[agrajag]

honey, you made about 200 posts on TLJ alone and how much you hate it. You may fool yourself, but you're not fooling me.

[Himu]

How about the fact that Star Wars is an ongoing saga of movies.

[Himu]

honey, you made about 200 posts on TLJ alone and how much you hate it. You may fool yourself, but you're not fooling me.

It was a bad movie.



You didn't see me talk about Solo.

Oh wait, no one did.

You won't see me talking about Ep IX either, because I won't be seeing it.

Yeah, Star Wars and I had a break up. So what?

[agrajag]

I am not going to have a debate with you on whether you care or not. It's ridiculous. I didn't single you out btw, you did yourself.

And Solo was mediocre, agreed.

[Himu]

And Solo was mediocre, agreed.

Haven't seen it!

[Himu]

In any case, I don't see why this is hard to understand. I didn't bump this thread. I don't routinely talk about Star Wars. I saw the thread was bumped, someone posted a link about how Episode IX will be in a new genre as per Daisy Ridley, I laughed at it, liked a post, saw Occam's post, liked it, and said amen. Then some butt hurt folks came in complaining about people don't like Star Wars now and here we are. It was just a routine thing. I'm not going around bumping SW threads, looking to constantly shit on the franchise. I really am done. And really - I don't care. But I saw a bumped Star Wars thread, and in today's world we need all the laughs we can get and I got it.

Not my fault some are mad Star Wars is a fucking joke.

[agrajag]

 

[Momo]

The star was animated stuff is still great (except this latest abomination) filoni is the guy that should be in charge

[Kara]

Parts 1 and 2 of "Twilight of the Apprentice" are some of the best Star Wars stuff made, but they don't really resonate if you haven't watched: all the prequels, all of Clone Wars, Rebels up until those episodes, (and I guess) all of the original trilogy.

Star Wars innit.

[Human Snorenado]

Hot take:

New STAR WAR is not as bad as a very vocal group of wankers think

Original recipe STAR WAR is not as good as your nostalgia tells you it is

...prequel STAR WAR is every bit as trash as its worst detractors say it is, tho

Search your feelings, bitches. You know it to be true.

[Human Snorenado]

Me, quietly trying to still enjoy STAR WAR, which I genuinely like and don't think is as shitty as everyone else (or used to be as great, which I think is the real problem):

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The entire internet, united at last for the very important goal of shitting on my fandom:

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Bitch please, you've been shitting on various internet fandoms with impunity for as long as I've known you. This is a karmic rebalancing years in the making.

Nintendo fans, Shenmue fans, and weeaboos deserve everything I've ever said about them, and more tho



Ultimately I'm not some big huge STAR WAR lunatic. I'm friends with people that are, who own enough toys to sell and put their kids through college, or with every EU book ever. That's not me. I just like to watch some STAR WAR. Being a huge big idiot fan about ANYTHING deserves mocking. But also acting like the choices that some neckbeard director makes in the latter 2010's shat all over your childhood is the act of equally egregious wankertude.

[Himu]

I remember naively thinking in my youth that when it was freed from Lucas we would get some pretty cool stuff from a universe where anything and everything could happen. Same with trek.

What a dumbass I was and still am

It really amazes me too.

The Last Jedi has all the pieces.

A Luke Skywalker in self exile from the guilt that short, brief hint of darkness led him to. Interesting.

Like Skywalker always struggling with the hint of the dark side and its temptation. Great. Luke after all beat the shit out of Vader in pure, raw fury. Great idea. He’s always been impulsive as much as he’s seen goodness in others. Making a human mistake is very much Luke Skywalker. Excellent. Keep it up.

The entire movie hinting at a mass paradigm shift and how the old must be killed. Great. All for it.

A story where the villain realizes both Sith and Jedi are full of shit and tries to pave a middle, gray path. Excellent. Shake things up.

“Join me Rey.” Awesome, we are at the moment the entire film has built up: new orders, out with the past, in with the new.

“No.”

Movie that touts it’s time for a paradigm shift the entire story reverts to the status quo.

Ends with the main character whooping in glee while flying a space craft as her friends are annihilated to mere dozens.

Rebels celebrate as if they won when they’ve got like 12 people left.

Paradigm shift movie ends the same way it began.

The most cowardly, safe piece of shit imaginable that tells you Star Wars will always be the same shit. Just stick to the original trilogy. Why bother.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Hot take:

New STAR WAR is not as bad as a very vocal group of wankers think

Original recipe STAR WAR is not as good as your nostalgia tells you it is

...prequel STAR WAR is every bit as trash as its worst detractors say it is, tho

Search your feelings, bitches. You know it to be true.

Are u me?

[Trent Dole]

They're dumb popcorn movies that people ascribe way more to cause their wasn't as much shit to cling to back when they first hit.

[Himu]

It’s funny how people keep excusing bad storytelling with “they're just dumb popcorn movies lol”

Idgi

Attitudes like that is precisely why Katy Perry still has a job as a singer.

[Himu]

Hot take:

New STAR WAR is not as bad as a very vocal group of wankers think

Original recipe STAR WAR is not as good as your nostalgia tells you it is

...prequel STAR WAR is every bit as trash as its worst detractors say it is, tho

Search your feelings, bitches. You know it to be true.

New Star Wars is as bad as prequel Star Wars. The casino bit and anything with Finn/Rose was as every bit as bad as anything in the prequels.

You’re just being defensive over dog shit.

Spicy take.

[Himu]

All I'm saying is, throw me some bones bros. The new locales and characters are so boring they make me nostalgic for the prequels

What is driving Rey?

With Luke, he looked to the horizon and wanted something more than life on a farm. Ends up seeing his only family murdered by the Empire, freeing him to pursue becoming a Jedi like his father, which gives him motivation to join the rebellion.

What is Rey’s motivation? Just her parents? That’s it?

From a storytelling perspective the prequels certainly have a lot more there. You ain’t wrong. Which makes it even more utterly baffling.

[Occam]

The prequels contained so much nonsense, it's hard to believe they were made by the same guy who wrote the first one.
One random hilarious idiocy: All prequel Jedi dressing like farmers from Tatooine / Obi-Wan in hiding did in the first movie.

[Kara]

All I'm saying is, throw me some bones bros. The new locales and characters are so boring they make me nostalgic for the prequels

They've essentially remade the original trilogy wherein the only location that actually felt lived in was a sterile mining colony--white walls and everything-- floating over a gas giant.

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One of the only pros about Empire Strikes Back.

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[Himu]

Occam: revenge of the sith is still better last Jedi.

I watched the rise of the Skywalker (?) trailer and doesn’t it take place on a forest planet like Endor?

[Kara]

I watched the rise of the Skywalker (?) trailer and doesn’t it take place on a forest planet like Endor?

At the very end of the teaser you see a fragment of a Death Star floating off the coast of a Caladan looking planet. It very well could be the actual Forest Moon of Endor!

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Tell me about the waters of your homeworld, Muad'dib.

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[Himu]

[Great Rumbler]

American Graffiti is his best movie. Don't @ me.

[Joe Molotov]

I've seen all the Star Wars movies and I will continue to watch all the Star Wars because there's not enough outer space nerdshit.

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Not Solo tho, I'm not desperate.

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[Great Rumbler]

Solo was competent, but totally by-the-numbers. Doesn't really do anything particularly interesting. I'd watch it over the the prequels but that's about it. At least R1 had a good final act.

[Tasty]

Anyone else excited for Dune?

[Himu]

Yes

[agrajag]

Solo was competent, but totally by-the-numbers. Doesn't really do anything particularly interesting. I'd watch it over the the prequels but that's about it. At least R1 had a good final act.

That's the thing. I think all the Disney era SW movies are OK, but forgettable. I don't understand the rage they induce.

[Don Rumata]

Anyone else excited for Dune?

Villaneuve hasn't made a single bad film, and Blade Runner 2049 was quite amazing, so how could you not be?

EDIT: Ok, i haven't seen Maelstrom and August 32 on Earth.

[headwalk]

i watched solo on an 18 hour plane fight at about 3 in the morning, nodding off occsaionally and not bothering to rewind it.

think that was the way it was meant to be watched.

[Trent Dole]

i watched solo on an 18 hour plane fight at about 3 in the morning, nodding off occsaionally and not bothering to rewind it.

think that was the way it was meant to be watched.

Dude, I watched it on a long ass flight too. It's a good plane movie.

[headwalk]

it was a triple feature with the new jumanji and a pan and scan TV edit of speed.

jumanji is the ultimate plane flick. actually gutted that the next isn't out till xmas 'cause i'm flying to malaysia in september.

[Momo]

Parts 1 and 2 of "Twilight of the Apprentice" are some of the best Star Wars stuff made, but they don't really resonate if you haven't watched: all the prequels, all of Clone Wars, Rebels up until those episodes, (and I guess) all of the original trilogy.

Star Wars innit.

[Momo]

Anyone else excited for Dune?

I've only been coming in my pants for years waiting

[agrajag]

is the SciFi channel Dune adaptation worth watching?

[I'm a Puppy!]

is the SciFi channel Dune adaptation worth watching?

It's OK. Obviously low budget but far more faithful than the 80s movie.

[Momo]

is the SciFi channel Dune adaptation worth watching?

100% absolutely, it's very, very good.


WHO IS IT THAT CALLS FOR MUAD'DIB

[Kara]

The  Sci-Fi Channel one leans really heavy on it being a teen drama. I appreciate that aspect of it, but I read the books as a pre-teen so I think of them as teen stories

My favorite stylistic choice was that they made it feel like you were watching a stage performance in several of the scenes in the desert after House Atreides falls.

If you watch the uncut version it's also weirdly European in that it has a bunch of gratuitous nudity.

[Rahxephon91]

You people know about Project 4K77, 4K83 (and soon 4K80), right?

Just looked into this, thanks to this post.

Amazing stuff.

[ToxicAdam]

is the SciFi channel Dune adaptation worth watching?

I like it better than the 80's movie (overall). You get a better feel for the story and Paul's progression feels more like a journey.

That being said, you have to be mentally prepared for special effects that are roughly on par with 00's syndicated television and spotty acting all over the place. Because that's only aged worse in the past 10+ years.

They did a sequel, Children of Dune, that actually made me appreciate the book more. I kind of zoomed through that one and didn't give it much thought when I first read it.

[Occam]

Occam: revenge of the sith is still better last Jedi.

Last Jedi had the worst plot of any Star Wars movie. On the other hand, Revenge of the Sith had one job, to convincingly show Anakin's turn to the dark side. The movie shows us he is basically tricked into it because he is a moron. Well done.

[kingv]

I think the last Jedi has a worse plot, and is somewhat more pointless than revenge of the sith. At the end of it, I feel like no plot progress was really made.

They found Luke and he died. They discovered plasma lived but then killed her, and the killed smoke, but he was already unused, so not sure why it matters.

However, all three of the prequels were far worse executed than TLJ or any of the other modern films. They were just bad films With incredibly Poorly directed acting. Even wooden daisy Ridley looks good compared to most of the cast in the prequels.

[chronovore]

Re-watched Solo again the other day, and enjoyed it a bit more than the first and second time. It feels like a scum-and-villainy focused Star Wars, but it is definitely a movie which asks, how about that star war? I like the kid playing Solo, and I'm fond of the Lando representation.

My main complaint is that it's overly by-the-numbers, and I wish they didn't go out of their way to explain the origin of every single noteworthy Original Trilogy detail of Han Solo.

[agrajag]

kingv is right tho, TLJ is a the anime filler arc of mainline SW films. It's lateral movement.

[chronovore]

kingv is right tho, TLJ is a the anime filler arc of mainline SW films. It's lateral movement.

It's my favorite SW movie behind the 1977 and 1980. It's fantastic. It actively pulls heroism and personal responsibility into anyone's hands, and away from hereditary mythology.

[Don Rumata]

kingv is right tho, TLJ is a the anime filler arc of mainline SW films. It's lateral movement.

It's my favorite SW movie behind the 1977 and 1980. It's fantastic. It actively pulls heroism and personal responsibility into anyone's hands, and away from hereditary mythology.

Anyone with an attunement for the force, that is.

[chronovore]

kingv is right tho, TLJ is a the anime filler arc of mainline SW films. It's lateral movement.

It's my favorite SW movie behind the 1977 and 1980. It's fantastic. It actively pulls heroism and personal responsibility into anyone's hands, and away from hereditary mythology.

Anyone with an attunement for the force, that is.

Which, very possibly, is "anyone who is open to it."

[paprikastaude]

casino planet was basically prequel tier

[Huff]

Chrono's worst part about him is his opinion on TLJ. sorry dad

[CatsCatsCats]

Dad’s right you’re all grounded

[headwalk]

casino planet was probably the low point of all eight films. such a bizarre aside. like when the anime catches up with the manga and needs to stall for 20 episodes.

[kingv]

kingv is right tho, TLJ is a the anime filler arc of mainline SW films. It's lateral movement.

It's my favorite SW movie behind the 1977 and 1980. It's fantastic. It actively pulls heroism and personal responsibility into anyone's hands, and away from hereditary mythology.

I think we should wait for the new one before saying that’s 100% confirmed. That title makes me feel like there’s a chance they retcon Rey’s parentage somehow.

[Momo]

I still love chrono, despite his star wars treason