The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.

[studyguy]

Valid reason is sex sells, plain and simple.
 

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1109030
Another one of those.
 

[mormapope]

Crossing Eden's avatar combined with him stanning for Assassins Creed and DSP makes wish he would be banned from the internet.

[D3RANG3D]

Isn't that the same person as the other day? 

[Shadow Mod]

I don't get this after the fact rage. Knew looking at that character (and knowing how Kojima generally is) that she was just going to be raunchy shit with an equally shit premise for her attire.

These plebs.

 

[Shadow Mod]

My bfs keep going up in height by about 6 inches by complete accident, it's weird.

[VomKriege]

I don't get this after the fact rage. Knew looking at that character (and knowing how Kojima generally is) that she was just going to be raunchy shit with an equally shit premise for her attire.

These plebs.

 

You're really obtuse with this issue. The terrible design was known and was bad in itself, doesn't mean we should have foreseen just how aggressive the game would be pushing that beyond the attire. The B&B unit in MGS4 was already going pretty low but all in all it was still rather short segmented pieces, they wore pseudo-SF (ultra-tight, of course) suits that could pass off as somewhat coherent with the rest of the design, the most ridiculous titillation was optional (for most people, the second stage part of the "fight" was probably just awkward boring playing footsies to keep their distance until the timer ran out), and while I have no illusion about Kojima intentions it was at least contrasted by the boss fight itself and the personal backstories however botched that was. As weak or transparent as it may have been, plot or context may have somewhat tried to make this a part of the whole. I expected Kojima to be a perv but I'm surprised by how lazy he was there to be honest.

Also some players might not have followed the promo material closely and may discover all this right now.
Besides it's not so much after the fact as criticism of the design started pretty much when we saw it for the first time.

[toku]

It's the early 80s, it was a different time

[Shadow Mod]

 

How am I being obtuse? Kojima is a hamfisted as hell writer. I dunno what people thought of when they saw her other than "lol Kojima gonna perv out."

[thisismyusername]

What do people like that do when there are two black men walking towards then on both sides of the street?

Panic induced heart attack.

Nah, I do a 180 and run down to the corner and then turn a corner into some public building hoping they don't follow me.

[Your Stalker]

What do people like that do when there are two black men walking towards then on both sides of the street?

Panic induced heart attack.

Nah, I do a 180 and run down to the corner and then turn a corner into some public building hoping they don't follow me.

You stumble into a black barbershop. What do?

[thisismyusername]

The Boss is not that great of a character, pleb.

The Boss also doesn't wear strippers attire either. The only "risque" thing she does is opens her zipper and goes down to the pubic bone area to show her weird criss-crossing scar. Which, given context (even if it's implausible on that being a rush job to get a child out) makes "sense."

What do people like that do when there are two black men walking towards then on both sides of the street?

Panic induced heart attack.

Nah, I do a 180 and run down to the corner and then turn a corner into some public building hoping they don't follow me.

You stumble into a black barbershop. What do?

Kernal Panic. Must reboot. Reboot. Reboot. *head explodes*

[mormapope]

Agreed with everything you said VomKriege.

Going in I was expecting Quiet to not be a captivating character, mainly based on spoilers and how she legit doesn't talk expect for a couple instances in the entire game. But her sexualization is go aggressive that it doesn't make any sense.

You could say that about other MGS games, but the context behind each woman character is completely different. Sniper Wolf is sultry in the way she speaks, how she approaches combat. She was sexy, but not over sexualized. She also drives one of the most emotional moments in the entire game.

Olga wasn't really sexualized at all in MGS2. Fortune wore a really weird fucking leotard thing but she wasn't sexualized. Rose was behind the codec the entire time and when she was revealed at the end, she looked like a normal woman. Emma Emmerich was a nerd who pissed herself.  MGS2 is probably the best in the series when it comes to women just being women.

MGS3 is when things got sorta iffy. EVA relies on seduction, but her methods of seduction are lazy as fuck when it came to her seducing Big Boss. Like, pulling your tits out in the middle of a mission, prancing around in your underwear, those don't seem like typical soldier actions. She was over sexualized. 

If anything, EVA should've been a character the mimics The Boss when it came to personality. Would've been a lot more gut wrenching if the woman Big Boss was seduced by faked her personality and mannerisms, that it was all a hoax.

MGS4 has the Beauty and Beast unit, that's when shit got legit bad.

Quite is worse than the B&B unit. Even if the context given doesn't alleviate the pervyness and sexualization, most of the women characters weren't lazy as fuck when it came to characterization. Quiet is one of the laziest characters in the entire franchise. Johnny, a dude known for shitting himself, has more character than Quiet when he has the shits. 

[VomKriege]

How am I being obtuse? Kojima is a hamfisted as hell writer. I dunno what people thought of when they saw her other than "lol Kojima gonna perv out."

The design was one thing, judging it in situ, in its complete context is another. I think it's perfectly fair to assess or re-assess it within the finished product.
Plus it turns out it's even worse than some of the lowest expectations.

[Huff]

 

[toku]

#leavequietchanalone
#sexycosplayisfun

[mormapope]

It's the early 80s, it was a different time

Probably the biggest con with MGS V, it doesn't feel like the 80's at all. Besides the licensed music, and the soviets being in Afghanistan, shit feels like it takes place in 2015.

[thisismyusername]

Quite is worse than the B&B unit.

Outfit wise? Yeah. Story-wise? She was written as a clone of "the Fear," which was kinda a stupid reason for the outfit but "okay, I'll allow it because it's Kojima."

I haven't gotten through the back-half yet, which apparently furthers her backstory so judgement is out on it until then (don't spoil me on it) but outside of her in the helicopter... which isn't as bad as people make out IMO... she isn't that horrible a character compared to the B&B unit in MGS4. B&B has that weird photo-mode after their fight "fight" to do. Quiet, while I'm sure you can probably CQC/grope her when you get out of the helicopter will set up sniping positions in areas you can and can't reach and generally isn't something like that. Is she sexualized? Yeah. But it isn't a "creepy sexualization" if that makes sense.

[toku]

It's the early 80s, it was a different time

Probably the biggest con with MGS V, it doesn't feel like the 80's at all. Besides the licensed music, and the soviets being in Afghanistan, shit feels like it takes place in 2015.

The Metal Gear and your sneaking suit in this definitely seem to be miles better than the ones in MGS1.

[mormapope]

Yeah, there's definitely something you haven't seen that makes her even more suspect when it comes to her just being a pervers dream 

[VomKriege]

Metal Gear Solid Mania : Greatest show on earth gaming forums.

[Shadow Mod]

MGSV Phantom Pussay 

[toku]

MGSV Phantom Pussay 

It will bind us together

[Tasty]

My bfs... about 6 inches

[Junpei the Tracer!]

STOP TALKING ABOUT MGSV, I HAVEN'T FUCKING PLAYED IT YOU MOTHERFUCKERS. STOP TRYING TO SPOIL THE GREATEST STORY OF THIS GENERATION FOR ME!.

i know, i know scroll past it but you guys have been talking about it off and on for 2-3 pages now, you're killing me plz

[Rahxephon91]

Quiet is shit. End of discussion.

I won't argue that previous MGS games had better female characters, because I don't really care and feminists won't accept anything it seems, but at least their sex appeal did'nt seem so forced and tone death.

Sniper Wolf was a sultry assassin sterotype. Perfect for the action movie game that the first is. Really, all they did was have some cleavage. Two really had nothing and 3 had Eva pushing it but again it was more goofy than erotic. Plus she was a bond girl basically.

4 is where the series lost it. Yes, you can easily avoid the BnB's strange photshoots, but I still don't know why they are there. There's still plenty of camera shots of their naughty bits plus bouncing Rosemary's boobs with the controller.

Peace Walker had some of the same stuff, but for most of these games I can still say it's optional and can be avoided.

Not so with V. Every scene with Quiet lingers on her boobs. Literally every scene or element of this character will do that. Hell, even a scene with strange messed up super soldier female boss character has a shot the lets you know she has breast physics.

Yet, MGS5 has no Boss character like 3 did. PW had Amanda and Strangelove. MGS1 had Myerl, Naomi, and I guess Mei Ling. Quiet is like the only real female character in the game and the other games at least had females that had more going on then their boobs. Quiet dosen't and as an actual character she seems boring as fuck.

[zepblackstar]

no matter what page you hit or random post you read in that MGSV, its almost always someone trying to one up each other in the outrage machine and how they are sensitive to the way of the woman.

[Tasty]

THE GREATEST STORY OF THIS GENERATION

Dude, I've seen the spoilers...

Nah breh. Nah.

[Dennis]

Elderly pet: Euthanasia or Natural?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1109048

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=178032746&postcount=35

 

[Shadow Mod]

sensitive to the way of the woman.

This needs to be used somewhere.

[Phoenix Dark]

https://twitter.com/Ripclawe/status/641415090735067136

fuckboy has me on ignore. bleached your skin yet breh?

[zepblackstar]

https://twitter.com/Ripclawe/status/641415090735067136

fuckboy has me on ignore. bleached your skin yet breh?

eh? I don't have you on ignore? and I am almost michael ealy levels. 2 more washes

[Phoenix Dark]

https://twitter.com/Ripclawe/status/641415090735067136

fuckboy has me on ignore. bleached your skin yet breh?

eh? I don't have you on ignore? and I am almost michael ealy levels. 2 more washes

you never respond to me on twitter, even when I'm agreeing with yo triflin' ass

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[VomKriege]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=178033925&postcount=44

It's not as WTF as you might think. Cat/dog/fox/horse/bird/deer/vet, etc is doublespeak to cover up people "off the grid", or part of sex/human trafficking, and the "medical professionals" that help that trafficking along. I am sorry, I am trained to ask these sorts of questions and see these sort of things. You'd be stunned by the sort of life/work I come from that this is a legitimate, realistic question. I apologize if I have made you uncomfortable.

I am trained to ask those questions. On a videogames forum.

[zepblackstar]

https://twitter.com/Ripclawe/status/641415090735067136

fuckboy has me on ignore. bleached your skin yet breh?

eh? I don't have you on ignore? and I am almost michael ealy levels. 2 more washes

lol, I rarely respond to anyone when they reply to me. Too busy semi trolling every other post   nothing personal
you never respond to me on twitter, even when I'm agreeing with yo triflin' ass

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[Dennis]

The most ´Murican video of the week. Instead of tackling and restraining him the cops just keep their distance and beat and taser him over and over even if it isn't working.

And of course people just keep eating! 

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1108925

[Shadow Mod]

Honestly every time I'm in a fast food place I expect some shit to go down 

[Jansen]

Valid reason is sex sells, plain and simple.
 

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1109030
Another one of those.
 

"By our count, this is at least your twelfth or thirteenth thread in the last year asking for help with the mental health challenges you're facing, including several threads we've had to lock or delete."





 

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Do short guys get bothered much by other people?

Any guy under 6' legit wishes he was 6'. Don't believe any other bullshit you read here. Period.

[VomKriege]

The most ´Murican video of the week. Instead of tackling and restraining him the cops just keep their distance and beat and taser him over and over even if it isn't working.

And of course people just keep eating! 

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1108925

Well they do tackle him early on ? I'm no copper but intoxicated guys have a reputation of being hard to control (and shrugging a taser is proof of that) and cops likes to show up with overwhelming numbers in those cases, and that's not just in America. The multi-tasering on the sidewalk is a bit weird tho but at this point they already upped the ante at the last resort they can use short of guns, so... EDIT : Also cops may be reluctant to use choke holds and what not, due to not so ancient events. Fear of bites too. But having no experience in beating dudes down, I'm only speculating as to whether they really did this efficiently.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=178008455&postcount=49

 
Is this guy a joke account ? Everytime I see one of his messages it's like reading a guy trying to pass off as an IA trying to pass off as human.

[Shadow Mod]

Do short guys get bothered much by other people?

Any guy under 6' legit wishes he was 6'. Don't believe any other bullshit you read here. Period.

Well I was wondering if short guys get bothered by people all of the time. I do. So it'd still be an upgrade from being a tiny ass woman who doesn't look intimidating.

[qq more]

I'm like 5'6 or 5'5, and honestly I'm unsure if I want to be 6 feet or not since I think being kinda short is neat for some reason.

I was never bothered for my height tbh.

[Purrp Skirrp]

Too bad that fucker didn't end up in the psych ward. The cycle continues

[Rahxephon91]

Do short guys get bothered much by other people?

Do you mean as in bullied? No, not really in my experince. Sure people think I'm weak because I'm small and I probably at some point got picked on because I was short but it was never a consistent thing. Maybe I'm lucky.

Do you mean some other way? Yes, being precived as "small" is'nt exactly a confidence booster.

[Shadow Mod]

Nah I just mean bothered in public, harassed, basically I can't really fly solo and be left alone.

[nachobro]

at that valid reason shit

As if none of us could come up with some shitty backstory so that a character is mute and almost naked.

Compelling character backstory: She's really into showing dem titties off.

Where's my GOTY awards?

[Kara]

Modbot is using the royal we now?

[Mods Help]

Modbot is using the royal we now?

When you start demanding that communities close themselves you might as well stop playing the part and just go with it.

[Kara]

Modbot is using the royal we now?

When you start demanding that communities close themselves you might as well stop playing the part and just go with it.

[Phoenix Dark]

give me a TLDR. Who is this character from Metal Gear, post the nudes too.

[toku]

give me a TLDR. Who is this character from Metal Gear, post the nudes too.

[Joe Molotov]

Does she get with black dudes?

[Kara]

give me a TLDR. Who is this character from Metal Gear, post the nudes too.

[Phoenix Dark]

give me a TLDR. Who is this character from Metal Gear, post the nudes too.

.......
video games

[Kara]

https://twitter.com/cooldudebrent/status/462134316793745408

[toku]

president trump can't save us fast enough

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

https://twitter.com/cooldudebrent/status/462134316793745408

I wonder what is more disturbing: that picture or the fact that this guy has made over 60,000 tweets with only 1,000 followers.

[Phoenix Dark]

seriously, what is the context of that scene? Is that just an incredibly fucked up attempt at an artistic "calm before the storm" scene. And why is the animation so fucking bad, ew.

And she's disappearing and shit...I barely know anything about Metal Gear but I assumed it wasn't that sci fi. scust

[mormapope]

I barely know anything about Metal Gear but I assumed it wasn't that sci fi. scust

You don't even know breh, her abilities are probably the tamest in the series.

[bluemax]

Modbot is using the royal we now?

When you start demanding that communities close themselves you might as well stop playing the part and just go with it.

(Image removed from quote.)

If I learned anything from Qt3 its that once the owner of the forum compares the forum to his living room shit is about to fall apart.

Bluemax, I've wondered about what games you really dig just out of curiosity. As you've said MGS, as a whole franchise, has shit game design. Along with saying Dark Souls is complete shit because of its camera and controls. I'm genuinely curious to what games you like playing.

I'm not trying to start a taste war of spergness, just wanna know what games you think are good.

I like a lot of games, I just tend to be a bit hyper-critical and unforgiving

I think Breath of Fire Dragon Quarter is the greatest JRPG on PS2 and possibly the greatest JRPG of all time.

I also think it is absolutely shit at explaining how to play it and I think if I had had more options at the time I wouldn't have played it to the point where it clicked. I also generally look down on single player games that require too many hours for the mechanics to click or make sense.

[mormapope]

Only played the demo for it, seemed pretty confusing at the time.