The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.

[Jansen]

https://mobile.twitter.com/kiryogi/status/732664409118543872?p=v

Real talk though. Thank you so much @aeana for your mistrust and treachery. Know that she cannot be ever trusted on anything.

aeana 

I dont recall if I told you or not. All I said as an example was along the lines of Hito was dearly missed when he passed away and most of the current moderation would not be today. Given, not the best choice of words or example. But to illustrate a point

lmao how could you say this and not expect to get banned on gaf

Poor way to illustrate the current oppression that is most of the moderation today. While the other point . Yup. No idea.

"oppression"

[Tasty]

I miss Hito :'( Fukk all other mods tho

*is banned*

WTF?!?!?!?!?! 

[Rahxephon91]

If she ain't your girl, you text once and wait. How fucking hard is that to figure out?

I really don't get what's wrong with dudes these days. If she's not your gf you shouldn't be expecting a text back, period. Likewise you shouldn't be answering a chick's texts super fast. I leave that insta respond bullshit to the kids. I'm an adult, I have shit to do. If I don't text you immediately it's because I'm doing shit. If you can't deal with it then gtfo.

It's mostly because of mobile phones, I'd say (plus social media). Expectation of immediate response was way lower before that.

There's also stuff like Twitter, Snapchat, Facebook, and so on. It's easy to know what people are up to these days and I guess when someone dosen't reply it's easy to get paranoid if you're too thirsty. For inexperienced fishermen/dudes like that(and me I guess) when you have a fish on any kind of hook, you're too eager to reel it in as quick as possible.

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No I don't exactly speak from experience. I hardly check my phone or text

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[OnlyRegret]

Tsk tsk, shame on all of you

https://mobile.twitter.com/SchalaAsha/status/725791277355274240

[Tasty]

SHOTS FIRED

[Mupepe]

TBF, you don't have to look far to find bad posts on GAF

[Rufus]

Nothing is keeping anyone from reading GAF. It's not like stuff is smuggled onto this site. People want to mock or complain without being banned for it. That's all there is to this thread.

[mormapope]

Neogaf now amounts to being viewed as a joke site by every other gaming community. Its not like gaming communities are bastions of wisdom and serenity, but if you're the biggest joke of them all, what does that say about the site and how its being run?

Nothing is keeping anyone from reading GAF. It's not like stuff is smuggled onto this site. People want to mock or complain without being banned for it. That's all there is to this thread.

NeoGaf is also one of the only sites where multiple users and mods have agendas that are out in the open completely but they can never be called out on it or even be ribbed for any of their activity.

The only difference between Neogaf and something like 4Chan in structure is language and anonymity. Identity on Neogaf is way more important than actually being honest and true in a discussion.

[D3RANG3D]

Hasn't she left GAF a couple of times because of how shit it is? 

[Yulwei]

Someone invite Aeana over here

[Rufus]

Someone invite Aeana over here

Yeah, might as well sling mud where it's the expressed purpose. 
Then again, she's already on Twitter.

[Atramental]

EviLore, Besada, ThoseDeafMutes, and Steve Youngblood have accounts here.

Might as well add one more GAF mod to our collection.

[Your Stalker]

vape naysh brahs

[OnlyRegret]

EviLore, Besada, ThoseDeafMutes, and Steve Youngblood have accounts here.

Might as well add one more GAF mod to our collection.

And Kabutops.
I wonder who the lurkers are.

[Kara]

Aeana, if you think the fact that I find bad posts on GAF to post on a forum that's nominally about posts on GAF, you should read my other posts on a forum that's nominally about posts on GAF that are completely unrelated to GAF.

[zomgee]

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SHOTS FIRED

IT'S 2016, THE WORD IS PROBLEMATIC.

[recursivelyenumerable]

i mean this being a shitty thread isn't really disputed? the whole point of this thread is to quarantine the bitching about GAF so it doesn't shit up the rest of the forum.

granted the rest of the forum isn't that great lately but that's only because I've been too sober to start a lot of threads.

[Joe Molotov]

Fuck gaf, time to 420blazeit.

[Great Rumbler]

The Bore is mainly a place for people who are still too young for retirement homes, but too old for console war shenanigans.

[Atramental]

I think every forum, worth its salt, needs a designated shit posting area. 

SA has FYAD, for example.

[Rahxephon91]

I think every forum, worth its salt, needs a designated shit posting area. 

SA has FYAD, for example.

GAF has Nintendo threads.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

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SHOTS FIRED

Feels caught. Christ.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

I think every forum, worth its salt, needs a designated shit posting area. 

SA has FYAD, for example.

This whole forum is a dedicated shitposting area. Have you seen the outstanding posts of Walrus, Dufus, or Myself lately? Gold for sure.

[Atramental]

I think every forum, worth its salt, needs a designated shit posting area. 

SA has FYAD, for example.

This whole forum is a dedicated shitposting area. Have you seen the outstanding posts of Walrus, Dufus, or Myself lately? Gold for sure.

The Diversity Lounge is a public restroom but the GAF thread is a toilet stall with a conveniently placed penis sized hole.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

I think every forum, worth its salt, needs a designated shit posting area. 

SA has FYAD, for example.

This whole forum is a dedicated shitposting area. Have you seen the outstanding posts of Walrus, Dufus, or Myself lately? Gold for sure.

The Diversity Lounge is a public restroom but the GAF thread is a toilet stall with a conveniently placed penis sized hole.

As an shitposter. I ask you know your role, sir.

[Kara]

I think every forum, worth its salt, needs a designated shit posting area. 

SA has FYAD, for example.

YCS was the best gaming forum. RIP  :'(

[Am_I_Anonymous]

I think every forum, worth its salt, needs a designated shit posting area. 

SA has FYAD, for example.

YCS was the best gaming forum. RIP  :'(

Kara I fucking demand you like my posts above.

L

[Kara]

I try not to like direct attacks, but I did like the other one. Namaste. 🙏

[Am_I_Anonymous]

I try not to like direct attacks, but I did like the other one. Namaste. 🙏

Best poster on this site /\

[tiesto]

Nothing is keeping anyone from reading GAF. It's not like stuff is smuggled onto this site. People want to mock or complain without being banned for it. That's all there is to this thread.

There's also tangents about anime and FF rankings in this thread!

[Trent Dole]

I think every forum, worth its salt, needs a designated shit posting area. 

SA has FYAD, for example.

YCS was the best gaming forum. RIP  :'(

It's back now as The Imp Zone.

[Kara]

I think every forum, worth its salt, needs a designated shit posting area. 

SA has FYAD, for example.

YCS was the best gaming forum. RIP  :'(

It's back now as The Imp Zone.

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3748730

We back baby. We back.

[zomgee]

I think every forum, worth its salt, needs a designated shit posting area. 

SA has FYAD, for example.

This whole forum is a dedicated shitposting area. Have you seen the outstanding posts of Walrus, Dufus, or Myself lately? Gold for sure.

I like to think that the discourse of this forum has gone down exponentioall a lot since I arrived.

[king of the internet]

Shitposting is pretty much the point of forums afaiac

[Shrew]

I sorta tuned out SA a couple of years ago when it flipped from 100% careposting, to 100% shitposting. It was annoying having to worry about getting banned for saying "lol" or not capitalizing a word, but then it got annoying when it was just, "I'm Gay" spammed everywhere. It's still a great site when it comes to Fitness and computer stuff tho.

Gaf is a good example of why Twitter is spiraling off into oblivion. I use it keep track of when a band I like is performing, or a streamer is streaming. That sort of thing. But in general it's just used as a platform for people to bitch at each other.

[stufte]

I think every forum, worth its salt, needs a designated shit posting area. 

SA has FYAD, for example.

An art forum I moderated for (eatpoo.com) had a subforum named "the toilet" you could be an asshole there, post vile shit and as long as it stayed in there, your account would be fine.

[thisismyusername]

It's still a great site when it comes to Fitness and computer stuff tho.

Nah son. SA's "best by" date is long ago.

[VomKriege]

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SHOTS FIRED

Heh, she's not wrong though. Digging for shitposts isn't the most productive thing to do. But at least by doing it remotely, we're not adding our trash to the mountain of work the mods have to do over there.

[Atramental]

vape naysh brahs

Fuck gaf, time to 420blazeit.

At first I was scratching my head at these two posts but then I looked at the page count.

 

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I have no weed tho... 

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[mormapope]

I'd say youtube and twitch took the gusto out of game forums moreso than twitter. Seeing and hearing is a lot more informative and useful than reading the majority of forum posts.

Gamefaqs/reddit/game wikis still have their place for information and how to play a game.

Twitter is awful for discussion, but I have nothing against it. Twitter usually amounts to being a quick way to spread news or start news. Its fun to see what a renowned person says online once in a while.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Every forum with a modicum of traffic has a shitbin/FYAD that people can vent and talk shit on and I think it's essential to a thriving community.  It's just that Evilore is so paranoid about losing dem advertising buxxx that he refuses to have such a group because an advertiser might get the vapors about something and Evilore might lose out on a few hundred dollars.  Although I can't say not having a shitbin/FYAD had improved the quality of discourse on NeoGAF either.  Honestly, it seems like community discussion, common on places like SA, is frowned upon at GAF.  In many ways, it's transforming into an advertising board where people can talk about just how awesome UNCHARTED 4: A Thief's End (Only on PlayStation® btw) is.  It's more just a place to squeee about upcoming games and consoles.

Although on the flipside, a NeoGAF shitbin will likely reveal the true nature of most gaffers so I understand Evilore not wanting to showcase that either.  One of them might (read: will) be emboldened enough to start talking about underaged hentai and the whole thing will come crashing down.

[VomKriege]

Is he even at risk losing ads ? Neogaf doesn't seem to have any real direct sponsor or isn't even in charge of selling its space, seems like it's all just stuff picked by one of those gigantic ad space manager you find on most sites. Even if they have some sort of charter for sites using it, I suspect it's either 2cm from the ground or not enforced...

Speaking of that, I often wondered if Lore (or any big site, God knows there's many out there with the same issues) wouldn't have been better actually doing the ad space thing themselves, like in the written press. I imagine Activision or EA could be interested with advertising their big games on a site like GAF with a banner on every page viewed for a month or something, and surely on such a massive number of clicks you might get a decent sum out of it. That would also be a way to root out malware and make an argument in good faith about disabling ad blocking. Would probably be a full time job, but that's kinda the point though, you develop real pro relations with people in the industry and at least if it all crashes you weren't just sitting on your hands. The major drawback with that is inviting suspicions of "native advertising" but GAF is already there anyway ?

I'm pretty sure I'm overestimating how much more profitable that model would be and in reality, it's maybe way easier to just sit back in your rocking chair while advertising cents from any rando company (from diapers for seniors to romantic hookups for gun fanatics) flow in every other minute...

That the vent up section would make all creeps get out of the woodwork is a fair concern tho...

[Shrew]

Gafs whole shtick was that it was a hangout for hardcore gamers, and a hangout for industry people. None of that applies anymore. Everyone who works in the industry is on sites like Reddit, Twitch, Twitter, or Youtube. Beaming the hype right into your fat little face. Dev presence is so commonplace, people barely notice.

In a shocking turn of events, game journalists are now writing articles that these sites are "toxic".  Steam, Twitch, Youtube. We're playing games and reviewing them, for free. They mad as heck son.

So what's going on on Gaf? CBoat has some screenshots that are 6 months out of date. Some dev wants Kickstarter money. Turn off adblock so you can argue about Uncharted's 8.8 score.

You just wanna hang out and talk videogames? I heard about this place called The Bore, check it out.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Is he even at risk losing ads ? Neogaf doesn't seem to have any real direct sponsor or isn't even in charge of selling its space, seems like it's all just stuff picked by one of those gigantic ad space manager you find on most sites. Even if they have some sort of charter for sites using it, I suspect it's either 2cm from the ground or not enforced...

Speaking of that, I often wondered if Lore (or any big site, God knows there's many out there with the same issues) wouldn't have been better actually doing the ad space thing themselves, like in the written press. I imagine Activision or EA could be interested with advertising their big games on a site like GAF with a banner on every page viewed for a month or something, and surely on such a massive number of clicks you might get a decent sum out of it. That would also be a way to root out malware and make an argument in good faith about disabling ad blocking. Would probably be a full time job, but that's kinda the point though, you develop real pro relations with people in the industry and at least if it all crashes you weren't just sitting on your hands. The major drawback with that is inviting suspicions of "native advertising" but GAF is already there anyway ?

I'm pretty sure I'm overestimating how much more profitable that model would be and in reality, it's maybe way easier to just sit back in your rocking chair while advertising cents from any rando company (from diapers for seniors to romantic hookups for gun fanatics) flow in every other minute...

That the vent up section would make all creeps get out of the woodwork is a fair concern tho...

A long time ago, you couldn't say "fuck" there because he would lose advertising money.  Evilore has spent over a decade crafting the board to be a reliable income generator due to ad revenue.  It generates a decent income for doing little or nothing and it isn't like he has any other employable skill so NeoGAF is all he has and will be squeezing every penny out of the board.

[archie4208]

Gafs whole shtick was that it was a hangout for hardcore gamers, and a hangout for industry people. None of that applies anymore. Everyone who works in the industry is on sites like Reddit, Twitch, Twitter, or Youtube. Beaming the hype right into your fat little face. Dev presence is so commonplace, people barely notice.

In a shocking turn of events, game journalists are now writing articles that these sites are "toxic".  Steam, Twitch, Youtube. We're playing games and reviewing them, for free. They mad as heck son.

So what's going on on Gaf? CBoat has some screenshots that are 6 months out of date. Some dev wants Kickstarter money. Turn off adblock so you can argue about Uncharted's 8.8 score.

You just wanna hang out and talk videogames? I heard about this place called The Bore, check it out.

You nailed it. 

Gaming sites like IGN and GAF are turning into dinosaurs because it's so much easier to watch videos on Youtube and get impressions there.

There are so many more convenient and quicker ways to know if I'll like a game or not nowadays.  I have a handful of Youtubers I follow whose tastes are fairly closely to mine.  I can watch them play a new game and get a feel if I'll like it.  I can read Steam reviews and get articulate impressions that are generally more detailed than your average IGN review.

[D3RANG3D]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1220874

[FStop7]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1220871

Someone gave Senator Uncharted a bad review.

[Tasty]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1220874

"he shouldn't tell his girlfriend because at the end of the day it's not going to achieve anything, just don't do it again, it probably is "cheating" because if it was his girlfriend that did it, he would feel that it was."

wat

[thisismyusername]

Speaking of that, I often wondered if Lore (or any big site, God knows there's many out there with the same issues) wouldn't have been better actually doing the ad space thing themselves, like in the written press. I imagine Activision or EA could be interested with advertising their big games on a site like GAF with a banner on every page viewed for a month or something, and surely on such a massive number of clicks you might get a decent sum out of it. That would also be a way to root out malware and make an argument in good faith about disabling ad blocking. Would probably be a full time job, but that's kinda the point though, you develop real pro relations with people in the industry and at least if it all crashes you weren't just sitting on your hands. The major drawback with that is inviting suspicions of "native advertising" but GAF is already there anyway

He tried that with the main/board listing "page" didn't he? Nobody goes there because of it.

[bork]

Gafs whole shtick was that it was a hangout for hardcore gamers, and a hangout for industry people. None of that applies anymore. Everyone who works in the industry is on sites like Reddit, Twitch, Twitter, or Youtube. Beaming the hype right into your fat little face. Dev presence is so commonplace, people barely notice.

In a shocking turn of events, game journalists are now writing articles that these sites are "toxic".  Steam, Twitch, Youtube. We're playing games and reviewing them, for free. They mad as heck son.

So what's going on on Gaf? CBoat has some screenshots that are 6 months out of date. Some dev wants Kickstarter money. Turn off adblock so you can argue about Uncharted's 8.8 score.

You just wanna hang out and talk videogames? I heard about this place called The Bore, check it out.

 

[demi]

Must not be terrible if you keep leaving and coming back, spazzzzzzztic

[Kara]

In many ways, it's transforming into an advertising board where people can talk about just how awesome UNCHARTED 4: A Thief's End (Only on PlayStation® btw) is.

Oh yeah, definitely. Look at the trajectory of OT OPs over the years.

As for your hypothesis about what would happen if there was a FYAD board there, just look at what happened with the anime figurine thread. The general hostility to community threads is not completely without merit.

[Take My Breh Away]

Gafs whole shtick was that it was a hangout for hardcore gamers, and a hangout for industry people. None of that applies anymore. Everyone who works in the industry is on sites like Reddit, Twitch, Twitter, or Youtube. Beaming the hype right into your fat little face. Dev presence is so commonplace, people barely notice.

In a shocking turn of events, game journalists are now writing articles that these sites are "toxic".  Steam, Twitch, Youtube. We're playing games and reviewing them, for free. They mad as heck son.

So what's going on on Gaf? CBoat has some screenshots that are 6 months out of date. Some dev wants Kickstarter money. Turn off adblock so you can argue about Uncharted's 8.8 score.

You just wanna hang out and talk videogames? I heard about this place called The Bore, check it out.

You nailed it. 

Gaming sites like IGN and GAF are turning into dinosaurs because it's so much easier to watch videos on Youtube and get impressions there.

There are so many more convenient and quicker ways to know if I'll like a game or not nowadays.  I have a handful of Youtubers I follow whose tastes are fairly closely to mine.  I can watch them play a new game and get a feel if I'll like it.  I can read Steam reviews and get articulate impressions that are generally more detailed than your average IGN review.

To be fair to IGN, they adapted their presence to social media without fuss. Neogaf is it's own special kind of fucked. Not just because it's a relic of the internet of the old. But because the brand name is now just a punchline to a joke these days. Neogaf just means increasingly hostile people running to a safe place to not get their feelings hurt and worshiping brand names. That petition of Uncharted 4 was met with "Wonder what neogaf member did this". Never mind that the mods completely embarrassed themselves with "leaked" information ever since that gift from the gods of Microsoft's 2014 line up in early 2014. Remember 10K? Got some of his fake NX "insider" information from a mentally ill pedophile claiming to have insider connections with Nintendo (Seriously) or straight up lifted it from a banned member who posts his own blog. And now he has his own blog where he embarrasses himself. A reminder that the mods "verified" him and let that NX thread go on for over a million views once /r/games linked it even when the walls were crumbling down. And that will forever be associated with neogaf. 

More industry credibility than ever, right? 

[Tasty]

http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=204007645&postcount=349

Not sure if poor troll or bad opinion

[Rufus]

http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=204007645&postcount=349

Not sure if poor troll or bad opinion (Image removed from quote.)

I assume you overlooked this
http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=204008422&postcount=353

[Steve Youngblood]

Gafs whole shtick was that it was a hangout for hardcore gamers, and a hangout for industry people. None of that applies anymore. Everyone who works in the industry is on sites like Reddit, Twitch, Twitter, or Youtube. Beaming the hype right into your fat little face. Dev presence is so commonplace, people barely notice.

In a shocking turn of events, game journalists are now writing articles that these sites are "toxic".  Steam, Twitch, Youtube. We're playing games and reviewing them, for free. They mad as heck son.

So what's going on on Gaf? CBoat has some screenshots that are 6 months out of date. Some dev wants Kickstarter money. Turn off adblock so you can argue about Uncharted's 8.8 score.

You just wanna hang out and talk videogames? I heard about this place called The Bore, check it out.

You nailed it. 

Gaming sites like IGN and GAF are turning into dinosaurs because it's so much easier to watch videos on Youtube and get impressions there.

There are so many more convenient and quicker ways to know if I'll like a game or not nowadays.  I have a handful of Youtubers I follow whose tastes are fairly closely to mine.  I can watch them play a new game and get a feel if I'll like it.  I can read Steam reviews and get articulate impressions that are generally more detailed than your average IGN review.

To be fair to IGN, they adapted their presence to social media without fuss. Neogaf is it's own special kind of fucked. Not just because it's a relic of the internet of the old. But because the brand name is now just a punchline to a joke these days. Neogaf just means increasingly hostile people running to a safe place to not get their feelings hurt and worshiping brand names. That petition of Uncharted 4 was met with "Wonder what neogaf member did this". Never mind that the mods completely embarrassed themselves with "leaked" information ever since that gift from the gods of Microsoft's 2014 line up in early 2014. Remember 10K? Got some of his fake NX "insider" information from a mentally ill pedophile claiming to have insider connections with Nintendo (Seriously) or straight up lifted it from a banned member who posts his own blog. And now he has his own blog where he embarrasses himself. A reminder that the mods "verified" him and let that NX thread go on for over a million views once /r/games linked it even when the walls were crumbling down. And that will forever be associated with neogaf. 

More industry credibility than ever, right?

This is one of those things where I promise that my goal is not to be an ambassador of NeoGAF and to try to clear our good name. I mean, I totally get it if people choose not to believe me when I say that I don't read this forum to police thought about NeoGAF. But assuming you do believe me, I will say that I don't. I was a member here before I became a mod and will continue to read and post here (although I am less active on the internet than I was years ago) as just a member and not to try and find and stamp out negative thought against GAF. And as a member here, it really doesn't bother me in the least that some people don't like GAF.

With that preface out of the way, the only thing I want to push back on is that nobody vetted 10k. The only public post from a mod was basically just Nirolak stating that he wasn't vetted.

I told 10k he could post whatever as long as he contextualized it.  I'll be out for a while anyway, but I just wanted to establish I haven't been doing anything akin to bish checking.

I did suggest he give a general sense of confidence for each in the event some of this doesn't pan out so you're less disappointed, but I didn't require he do so.

I think I'm just kind of pushing back on this one thing in particular because I gather that there's this sentiment out there that we are desperate to be the go-to place for hot scoops and as such we're getting sloppy with who we do and don't trust for news. Whereas the reality from where we were sitting wasn't that at all, at least with this particular story. It was more that certain communities are just desperate for NX news, someone from the community claimed to have plausible information being discussed in an existing thread, and there was a push to break it out into a different thread. So the decision was just to defer to the community to try and use their best judgment there. We (the staff) certainly didn't sound the Drudge siren and pretend we were breaking hot information there.

[Phoenix Dark]

GAF has always been the online gaming equivalent of suburban white kids who learn about some urban slang/meme 6 months-15 years late and suddenly want to own it. Even ten years ago GAF was constantly re-posting shit from 4chan as "exclusive."

It's like "Bye Felecia."

[Am_I_Anonymous]

GAF has always been the online gaming equivalent of suburban white kids who learn about some urban slang/meme 6 months-15 years late and suddenly want to own it. Even ten years ago GAF was constantly re-posting shit from 4chan as "exclusive."

It's like "Bye Felecia."

"On fleek"

Love how white people

A) Think they invented this
B) Never use it correctly

Yup that's GAF for sure.

[FStop7]

GAF has always been the online gaming equivalent of suburban white kids who learn about some urban slang/meme 6 months-15 years late and suddenly want to own it. Even ten years ago GAF was constantly re-posting shit from 4chan as "exclusive."

It's like "Bye Felecia."

I'll never forget the day that Miley Cyrus "invented" twerking in 2012 or whenever.

[Phoenix Dark]

wrong thread