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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #3000 on: January 09, 2019, 02:07:03 PM »


i've seen a lot of "how to fix street fighter 5" videos in my time and this is the first good one.

A lot of his complaints are why I don't play it. I'm surprised he loves it. All those reasons are why SFV isn't the best and why I doubt it'll be fixed. It's an overly offensive game without the defensive mechanics to match. I'm not asking for it to be like SFIV with all of its defense tools and tech, but games that are often in your face like 3S or GG have defensive mechanics that nullify offense. SFV is basically Guilty Gear without burst or FD or SFIII without parries. This is precisely why SFV is not a "great" fighting game as he says at the beginning of the video. He brings up GG, but ignores that GG has air dash, jump cancels, burst, faultless defense, and far more movement options that negate offense. Woshige basically made a Guilty Gear without the defense and movement tools of GG.

This is why SFV is a bad game: its design philosophy is undercooked.

If you want to improve SFV at this point give it Alpha/3S era and go wild. This means, give every character a super jump (SFIII), allow air blocking (alpha, Vsav), create a universal defense mechanic akin to parries (SFIII), guard cancels (Vsav), and the other shit from Alpha 2 and 3.

Here we have is a game he readily admits is something that can ignore SF fundamentals and yet he finds it to be a great fighting game. Different tastes, different strokes but I prefer to play a fundamentals oriented title.
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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #3001 on: January 09, 2019, 02:28:10 PM »
That said, moves do need more pushback like he said.

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« Reply #3002 on: January 09, 2019, 03:40:00 PM »
i think his point stands though that it's not that it has a shit neutral game, shit zoning or a crappy roster. all the ingredients are there for a decent game but the only taste that comes through is that of standing one millimetre away and blockstringing someone to death because it's infinitely the strongest option.

doubt they'll fix it with patches so i'd love for them to wipe the slate clean and move on to a proper cross platform 6 with an arcade release on launch. i know the xbone was bunk but there was definitely something undermining about making a platform exclusive street fighter.

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« Reply #3003 on: January 09, 2019, 03:51:09 PM »
He made this reply in comments:

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So far I'm getting this comment a lot, and I agree entirely that Guilty Gear has more balanced defensive options to match its strong offense. In the video I was trying to imply that Woshige does not see the value in having that balance.

I get him now.

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« Reply #3004 on: January 09, 2019, 08:50:49 PM »
SFV is basically....SFIII without parries.

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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #3005 on: January 11, 2019, 07:30:49 AM »
Dead Or Alive 6 is getting a beta test on PS4- starts today and ends on Monday!  PS+ sub required.
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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #3006 on: January 14, 2019, 10:23:19 PM »
Looks like Bandai Namco is going to be announcing a season two pass and new DLC character line-up for Dragonball FighterZ soon.  There's an event on the 26th, IIRC.
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« Reply #3007 on: January 14, 2019, 10:31:52 PM »
yeah their dumb stream they had said to expect more on a new pass after the finals of the world tour. also Hiroki said there will be a new balance patch and the team is going to be looking at improving comeback potential. another full year of support for the game and tournaments was confirmed too.

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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #3008 on: January 15, 2019, 12:03:24 AM »
Can't wait for another 12 gokus and vegetas

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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #3009 on: January 15, 2019, 12:13:39 AM »
GIVE ME BULMA AND LAUNCH

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« Reply #3010 on: January 15, 2019, 12:14:11 AM »
they said there is a tease for the new character in v jump magazine and that mag comes with a card insert for another goku/vegeta fusion :lol

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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #3011 on: January 15, 2019, 12:18:56 AM »
I demand Launch. Give her the GG treatment. Make her two characters in one. Regular Launch of passive and defensive. There's a sneeze meter and once built, she can turn into blonde launch, which is offensive. The key to the character is to maximize sneeze meter before you're a threat. Fuck yes.

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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #3012 on: January 15, 2019, 12:31:12 AM »
Can't wait for another 12 gokus and vegetas

Eh, could be worse: Could be 12 Gokus and Vegetas with beam attacks.

Only Beerus is the only character I feel that is somewhat different from the others as his projectiles are MEANT to be manipulated/baited/traps. Meanwhile, everyone else nearly has a Kamehameha/beam attack for projectiles which makes actually playing Beerus a fools errand as trying to get the projectiles out to do shenanigans will get stuffed easy.

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« Reply #3013 on: January 15, 2019, 07:27:32 PM »
I bet Vegetto or Gogeta is one of them.  And Ultra-Instinct Goku.  :lol

They really need to diversify the roster.   This game needs Mr. Satan, Bulma, Chi-Chi, Turtle Hermit, and hell yeah Lunch is a good idea with the split personality thing.  Throw in Oolong as a 'Dural' type character who morphs into other characters when doing various attacks.  That's a rip-off of that nun character from Skullgirls but hey who cares.  Throw in Arale and Jaco too.  If there's any other version of Goku I'd want to see, it would be the kid version with his staff and Kinto'un.  :)
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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #3015 on: January 17, 2019, 01:21:07 PM »
MK11 thing starting soon, reveals won't be til 11 PT though

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« Reply #3016 on: January 18, 2019, 09:59:29 AM »
Jiren confirmed


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« Reply #3017 on: January 18, 2019, 03:12:41 PM »
There's a Jump Force open beta going on this weekend, BTW.  Only during set times...the one today was far too early to try, lol.

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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #3018 on: January 22, 2019, 02:17:51 PM »


Tokido :uguu

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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #3019 on: January 27, 2019, 05:04:22 PM »
Yo, this BBGB or whatever the fuck his name is vs Go1 match: BBGB Last set completely annihilated into a "Perfect" from Go1.

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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #3020 on: January 27, 2019, 06:13:36 PM »
Jiren confirmed

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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #3021 on: January 27, 2019, 07:47:44 PM »


Jiren, SSJB Gogeta (lol), Videl with Great Saiyaman (Yes!!), and...Broly- again.  LMAO.
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« Reply #3022 on: January 27, 2019, 08:04:40 PM »
A 2nd Broly before any of the female Saiyans, smh.

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« Reply #3023 on: January 27, 2019, 08:37:21 PM »
Sigh. I'm never going to get Bulma and Launch.

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« Reply #3024 on: January 27, 2019, 08:39:50 PM »
A 2nd Broly before any of the female Saiyans, smh.

Pan is a female Saiyan but she sucks so she doesn't count.

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« Reply #3025 on: January 27, 2019, 08:46:01 PM »
A 2nd Broly before any of the female Saiyans, smh.

Pan is a female Saiyan but she sucks so she doesn't count.

Nobody is thinking of Pan- they're thinking Caulifla, Kale (who is the female Broly), or their fused form as additions to the game! 

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« Reply #3026 on: January 27, 2019, 08:47:21 PM »
That left one walks up to the bar and slaps your girlfriends ass. What do you do? :doge

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« Reply #3027 on: January 27, 2019, 08:49:33 PM »
That left one walks up to the bar and slaps your girlfriends ass. What do you do? :doge

Use my knowledge as a mega-nerd knowing that she's a pretty timid character and wouldn't do that.
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« Reply #3028 on: January 27, 2019, 09:43:33 PM »
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« Reply #3029 on: January 27, 2019, 10:03:26 PM »
A 2nd Broly before any of the female Saiyans, smh.

Pan is a female Saiyan but she sucks so she doesn't count.

Nobody is thinking of Pan- they're thinking Caulifla, Kale (who is the female Broly), or their fused form as additions to the game! 

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I already know what who he’s talking about.

I forgot Videl is a human. She’s so boring I forgot her entire character lmao

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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #3030 on: January 28, 2019, 01:08:10 PM »
got a hori commander finally

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« Reply #3031 on: January 29, 2019, 08:53:02 AM »
got a hori commander finally

It's a nice pad!  Use them for just about anything fighting game-related.

8BitDo's Genesis-style six button pad is now up for pre-order- means the Switch will finally have something good!  And this will work on PC too.

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« Reply #3032 on: January 29, 2019, 09:55:40 AM »
is there any way to use this as a BT controller on switch or is it docked only? the pro controller is nice but not really optimal for SFC.
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« Reply #3033 on: January 29, 2019, 11:16:14 AM »
Why mimic genesis dpad and not Saturn

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« Reply #3034 on: January 29, 2019, 11:29:09 AM »
is there any way to use this as a BT controller on switch or is it docked only? the pro controller is nice but not really optimal for SFC.

Yup!  You can pair 8Bitdo controllers right to the Switch and use them any way you'd like!

Why mimic genesis dpad and not Saturn

It actually looks more like a hybrid of the two. 

It's being designed with the Genesis (perhaps the mini model is incoming?) in mind.  They're also releasing adapters to use the pads wirelessly with O.G. Genesis hardware.

These guys do good work so I'm picking one up for sure.
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« Reply #3035 on: January 29, 2019, 12:10:49 PM »
Nice, thanks for heads up.  :itagaki
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« Reply #3036 on: January 29, 2019, 09:19:06 PM »
people locally wanted an MKX tournament for weeklies so I installed it on PC to practice. Good lord this game looks :lawd in ultrawide

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« Reply #3037 on: January 31, 2019, 11:02:47 PM »
SoulCali 6 40% off on Steam...tempted as would likely play way more than I have on PS4 (which hasn't been much), but couldn't pull trigger on. Come on 19.99 (I'd prob bite at 29.99).  :-\
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« Reply #3039 on: February 07, 2019, 03:16:32 PM »
it's a meme
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« Reply #3040 on: February 07, 2019, 03:30:59 PM »
never mind, it's a meme
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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #3041 on: February 07, 2019, 05:54:12 PM »
Lol at the counter giving up, you win again, Scott.

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« Reply #3042 on: February 07, 2019, 08:29:33 PM »
 :lol
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« Reply #3045 on: February 12, 2019, 04:47:47 PM »
:lol
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« Reply #3046 on: February 12, 2019, 04:51:45 PM »
 :lol :rofl
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« Reply #3047 on: February 12, 2019, 04:54:20 PM »
The cut scenes are cringe but it's a fun arena brawler :). It's totally gonna bomb so should be cheap soon!
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« Reply #3048 on: February 17, 2019, 11:54:46 AM »
News from EVO Japan.  Nothing from Capcom.  WTF is going on with them lately?

Julia and Negan will be released in Tekken 7 on 2/28.  The Negan trailer is hilarious!  :lol



Amy is the next Soul Calibur VI DLC character!


Naoto Kurogane (BB), Teddie (Persona), Seth (UN), and Aino Heart (Arcana Heart) got announced as new DLC characters for BlazBlue Cross-Tag Battle!  The game is coming to arcades soon too.


SNK Heroines Tag Team Frenzy will be released on Steam next week!  2/21.
https://twitter.com/gatoray_kof/status/1096329163563184128


Finally, amidst all the chaos from the DOA6 debacle, it was announced that Mai Shiranui is returning as a DLC character, alongside another SNK character who hasn't been announced yet.  They're also doing another 'beta' test next weekend, but this time it's only for people who pre-ordered the digital deluxe versions on PS4 and XBone.  This time they're going to allow for a number of modes (online and offline) to be played and all initial characters will be playable.

More DLC shit including a season pass revealed.  62 DLC outfits already on the way. :dizzy


This is coming stateside...for PC!
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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #3049 on: February 17, 2019, 05:45:28 PM »
Where the fuck is samurai spiritis news FUCK

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« Reply #3050 on: February 17, 2019, 05:47:22 PM »
Julia is too anime. Gross.

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« Reply #3051 on: February 17, 2019, 07:33:34 PM »
Where the fuck is samurai spiritis news FUCK

Guessing they want to wait until it's much more complete before showing anything.

Julia is too anime. Gross.

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« Reply #3052 on: February 17, 2019, 07:34:22 PM »
WATCH THE NEGAN TRAILER :punch
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« Reply #3053 on: February 17, 2019, 07:49:20 PM »
News from EVO Japan.  Nothing from Capcom.  WTF is going on with them lately?

trOllNO shitcanned, that's what.

Might buy explosive handjobber when it's on Steam sale.

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« Reply #3054 on: February 17, 2019, 07:55:21 PM »
News from EVO Japan.  Nothing from Capcom.  WTF is going on with them lately?

trOllNO shitcanned, that's what.

Nah.  I see he tweeted that he wasn't going to go, but...they didn't have anything to show?

https://twitter.com/Yoshi_OnoChin/status/1093919704748457984
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« Reply #3055 on: February 17, 2019, 07:59:36 PM »
Probably trying to fix Marvel Infinite? IDK.

https://twitter.com/RaphTx/status/1093561104289202176


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« Reply #3056 on: February 17, 2019, 11:41:15 PM »
Where the fuck is samurai spiritis news FUCK

Guessing they want to wait until it's much more complete before showing anything.

Julia is too anime. Gross.

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The overly Japanese waifu mannerisms. She looks atrocious. I was really looking forward to her but she acts like a mother fucker maid cafe waitress.

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« Reply #3057 on: February 17, 2019, 11:51:50 PM »
No more sfv updates  :ohyeah

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« Reply #3058 on: February 17, 2019, 11:53:32 PM »
get rid of ono

he's had like two good fg games under his belt, tops

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« Reply #3059 on: February 18, 2019, 10:42:18 AM »
Where the fuck is samurai spiritis news FUCK

Guessing they want to wait until it's much more complete before showing anything.

Julia is too anime. Gross.

 :oreilly :dayum :what

The overly Japanese waifu mannerisms. She looks atrocious. I was really looking forward to her but she acts like a mother fucker maid cafe waitress.

 :oreilly :dayum :what
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