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Just get fightcade for those games
So they're never actually finishing SFV then?
Marvel Vs. Capcom Infinite could end up being a divisive game. Although the Versus series is often seen as a chaotic display of flashes and super moves, it has a surprisingly consistent core. Three-versus-three battles, assists, and a six-button layout have defined the series and for almost two decades have held the attention of a hardcore group of fans. Speaking with representatives from both Marvel and Capcom, the first two of those three core tenants are gone in Infinite, and they wouldn’t confirm the third.Infinite’s fights are fought two-on-two and without call-in assist attacks, which might make some series fans a bit skeptical. But the move didn’t occur without a lot of consideration. The team at Capcom considered the decision for a long time before settling on two-versus-two for the sake of accessibility. Although frantic combat is core to the series, Director of Production at Capcom Mike Evans wants more casual fans to be able to jump in without being overwhelmed; in Marvel Vs. Capcom 3, each player had to choose three characters from an enormous roster, then choose one of three assists for those characters. In Infinite, you’ll only have to select two characters and one Infinity Stone.That trade comes with its upsides, even for more seasoned players. For one, you can now instantly swap in characters at any time. You can do this mid-combo, similar to Marvel Vs. Capcom 3’s aerial TAC combos but faster, and available on the ground as well. Capcom hasn’t nailed down specifics about how often players will be able to swap characters this way, but mentioned the goal is to give combos the freeform feel and endless permutations the series is known for. Having two characters makes this system far more manageable, since players will know for sure which character they’ll be swapping into during their combo, instead of having to memorize their team order.To expand the number of options further, Capcom has removed the old “X-factor” mechanic from Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 and replaced it with six Infinity Stones. This not only hints at some of the potential plot points in the game (since the six stones are a nod to the Infinity Gauntlet), but acts as a way to customize your two-person team. The two Infinity Stones we were shown had "power" and "time" abilities. Power seems to increase the potency of each attack, while Time acted as a way to increase mobility and combo potential. Each stone will grant one ability that can be activated at any time, and one stronger ability will be more rare (again, the team has yet to work out the specifics of how they will limit this ability). When I brought up Street Fighter V’s V-System as a potential reference point for Infinity Stones, they instead pointed me toward Capcom Vs. SNK 2’s Groove System.Part of the reason for this new system is an attempt to even the playing field. In the Marvel Vs. Capcom competitive scene, you tend to see a core roster of characters that recur, and many other characters that are left by the wayside. In the game’s early life, some characters were chosen purely for their assist abilities, acting less like actual characters and more like tools. Capcom’s goal with Infinity Stones is for them to work like those throwaway assist characters, making up for the deficiencies of a particular team, enhancing its strong points, and acting a sort of comeback enabler. A Marvel Vs. Capcom game with a balanced roster still sounds like a tall order, but Infinity Stones will hopefully make that task easier.When I asked them whether the simplified approach to team building also meant fewer buttons to use, Capcom wouldn’t confirm anything. Instead, they told me that they’re hoping to make the game as comfortable to play on a controller as it is on an arcade stick, so newer fans don't feel like they need to purchase the latter to compete.The last big question for a Marvel Vs. Capcom game is the roster, but Capcom told me at the start of our meeting they wouldn’t be revealing anyone other than the four characters shown in the gameplay trailer shown off at the end of tonight’s Capcom Cup finals (Ryu, Mega Man X, Captain Marvel, and Iron Man). However, they did offer a few details about their direction.When I asked them about the rumor that the game’s roster would not include as many (or any) characters from the X-Men or Fantastic Four series due film rights issues (the current film series for those franchises are owned by Fox and not Marvel Studios) and would instead favor characters already in the Marvel cinematic universe, Creative Director of Marvel Entertainment Bill Roseman didn’t tense up the way PR folks tend to when you ask them a difficult question. While Marvel wants to take a forward-thinking stance with the characters they include in the game, he wants to make sure fans of all of Marvel properties, including X-Men, were happy. “That heritage is not lost,” he told me. Not the straight answer I was looking for, but it left me hopeful about my chances of Berserker Barraging people as Wolverine next year.Roseman and Executive Producer at Marvel Games Mike Jones also emphasized that they’re looking at this project the way they have all of their recent projects in games, film, and television (Jones brought up Insomniac’s upcoming Spider-Man game and their current run of well-regarded series on Netflix as a reference point). They want to make sure Infinite’s use of the Marvel license is well-earned, and mentioned the game will have a more expansive, cinematic story mode this time around. “We want to make sure this game is dripping with Marvel,” said Roseman.I wasn’t able to get my hands on the game itself so I can't speak to how all of the new ideas in Marvel Vs. Capcom Infinite come together. That said, the big picture of Infinite sounds like a huge shift for the series. Reducing the character count and removing assists sounds like it could cut down on the flashy, ridiculous fun that has made the series so popular. But while it may not be the comfort food fans are looking for, I prefer that a series known for chaos go for broke when it comes to making changes, rather than play it safe.
No assists is a weird move. Also controls and roster don't seem to be locked down yet? How are they going to finish this in a year?
but it left me hopeful about my chances of Berserker Barraging people as Wolverine next year.
Quote from: nachobro on December 04, 2016, 02:00:38 AMNo assists is a weird move. Also controls and roster don't seem to be locked down yet? How are they going to finish this in a year?Betting the "Infinite" sub-title is also a strong hint they are going "Games as a service" with this. It's the sort of franchise you can crank a ton of DLC out of and Marvel's mobile fighter made a ton of money.Plus the Capcom baggage is just too strong that they may as well just sign a multi-year deal and have Capcom do the console fighting games anyway. Capcom's hurting for cash and a game like this would be a healthy injection as long as they don't fuck it up like they did SF V.
but my actual favorite part of this game is watching the marvel 3 "superfans" immediately start to bitch and moan just like the mvc2 players did when 3 was first being shown off. the cycle continues, friends.
I didn't plan on sharing this just yet, but with the incessant Fox ban discussion I thought I should speak up.Yesterday, I was told with complete certainty that X-Men and Fantastic Four characters will be coming… as DLC. It's a done deal.
7 years is a pretty long time tho
yeah it's much less effective as a way to clown someone now. though it is nice as a shortcut for someone who doesn't recognize or remember the big titles released before SF4. it's especially apparent now though, seeing people whining about gems and 2v2 in a marvel game
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=226049501&postcount=4524Quote I didn't plan on sharing this just yet, but with the incessant Fox ban discussion I thought I should speak up.Yesterday, I was told with complete certainty that X-Men and Fantastic Four characters will be coming… as DLC. It's a done deal.
Quote from: nachobro on December 05, 2016, 01:23:59 PMyeah it's much less effective as a way to clown someone now. though it is nice as a shortcut for someone who doesn't recognize or remember the big titles released before SF4. it's especially apparent now though, seeing people whining about gems and 2v2 in a marvel gameThe latter doesn't even make sense, when you consider that Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom UAS came out like six years ago. It's way to early to be making big assumptions, but what I see on this game seems akin to Street Fighter V- they're going back to basics, in terms of accessibility, and I think that's a good thing. People are going to whine and complain no matter what anyway.
Quote from: bork pls on December 05, 2016, 01:26:43 PMQuote from: nachobro on December 05, 2016, 01:23:59 PMyeah it's much less effective as a way to clown someone now. though it is nice as a shortcut for someone who doesn't recognize or remember the big titles released before SF4. it's especially apparent now though, seeing people whining about gems and 2v2 in a marvel gameThe latter doesn't even make sense, when you consider that Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom UAS came out like six years ago. It's way to early to be making big assumptions, but what I see on this game seems akin to Street Fighter V- they're going back to basics, in terms of accessibility, and I think that's a good thing. People are going to whine and complain no matter what anyway.Unfortunately I'm pretty sure the FGC completely ignored TatsuCap entirely and were still waiting for Marvel 3 when it came out.
The latter doesn't even make sense, when you consider that Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom UAS came out like six years ago.
I'm pretty sure if you asked most Vs fans if there was a game in between Marvel 2 and Marvel 3 they'd probably say "no."
Man, googling I forgot how many X-men characters MvC2 had (which makes sense since they had the sprites from X-men v SF). You had Wolverine, Cyclops, Gambit, Iceman, Storm, Psylocke, Rogue, Juggernaut, Magneto, Cable, Spiral, Omega Red. Going from that to possibly zero X-men in MvCI is :| as an X-men fan. I feel like going back and playing MvC2 now...
also i don't know shit about modern marvel. all i wanted in were xmen and cable ms marvel (who is now captain marvel i guess?), and squirrel girl. blade would be cool too.
Quote from: nachobro on December 05, 2016, 12:53:38 PMhttp://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=226049501&postcount=4524Quote I didn't plan on sharing this just yet, but with the incessant Fox ban discussion I thought I should speak up.Yesterday, I was told with complete certainty that X-Men and Fantastic Four characters will be coming… as DLC. It's a done deal. This is good, but if all the X-men/Fox characters are saved for DLC, I'd imagine we're not getting many of them considering they were like 1/3rd of the cast previously. I'd imagine DLC pack being like 2 X-men (Wolv + Mag), 1 FF (Doom), Deadpool.Like I doubt we've ever getting Cyclops/Gambit/Iceman/Psylocke/Omega Red back and I can see Storm being gone. Phoenix I hope is gone. But we'll probably get Sentinel eventually.
I got into that very briefly in the late 90s. Had a supergun (with CPS3 and SF3:2i) and an MVS for it too. Found it to be too much trouble to maintain and sold it all off before SF3: W Impact hit the Dreamcast.But that was also when I was much younger and liked to bring game systems and games around to friends' houses (and even work). Not so easy to do with a supergun, lol.If I did it now, I'd probably go with a MAME cab instead.
that was a bunch of sperging
Quote from: bork pls on January 02, 2017, 07:40:50 PMI got into that very briefly in the late 90s. Had a supergun (with CPS3 and SF3:2i) and an MVS for it too. Found it to be too much trouble to maintain and sold it all off before SF3: W Impact hit the Dreamcast.But that was also when I was much younger and liked to bring game systems and games around to friends' houses (and even work). Not so easy to do with a supergun, lol.If I did it now, I'd probably go with a MAME cab instead.Yeah they definitely used to be a hassle but I think I have it narrowed down to the two easiest to setup/use.MAK Strike is cheaper and works with a laptop-style PSU using a special connector (which they sell of course) or an arcade PSU, but I'll need to resolder one connection if I want to use a PS3/360 USB decoder for plug and play sticks...maybe. Dude posted a bit ago on SRK that he was redoing his convertors to work with the MAK better, so I need to check if he ever did that. Total cost would be ~$290 with shipping after adding in a power supply, JAMMA extender, SCART to RCA converter, CPS2 kick harness, and controller convertors.Windy Supergun is more expensive but is an all in one box that is fully setup for RCA with extended JAMMA cable and kick harness built in. But it doesn't work with the easier controller convertors above so I'd have to buy different ones and make my own cable to change the pinout to match the converts, making a setup that looks like this. Total cost after shipping would be ~$395 after adding in the controller convertor PCBs and added cables.Both setups don't require an arcade PSU, will work with PS3/360 (and PS4 soon) sticks with a little work, and will output to my CRT so now I just need to decide between them.
XRD Revelator is $20 on Amazon.I'm shit at fighting games but I kinda want to buy it to look at the pretty pictures and listen to dat soundtrack.
Meanwhile, Andrex continues to shit up these threads with his odd Smash gloating while nobody else cares. Smash will come on at Evo and everyone will go find something else to do before the headlining Capcom games come on. Another year, same old crap.
I read this and just went . Just makes me want to stick with emulation.
