VOAT Containment Megathread of Trash People for Trash People

[zepblackstar]

I still enjoy Nintendo games. 

Pokemon Go?

[demi]

I still enjoy Nintendo games. 

Pokemon Go?

When people think you're limited to enjoying Nintendo's current outings LOL

Dont mind me, just enjoying the literally decades of classics Nintendo has brought us

[Cerveza mas fina]

literally decades

[Your Stalker]

lichrally

[agrajag]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1294825

Gaffer complains that a Disney film is not true to its source material.

Next on GAF: we complain about accuracy in Clash of the Titans and Hercules the TV series.

[railGUN]

(ugh)

[mormapope]

I still enjoy Nintendo games. 

Pokemon Go?

When people think you're limited to enjoying Nintendo's current outings LOL

Dont mind me, just enjoying the literally decades of classics Nintendo has brought us

And luckily for newcomer fans, they've been releasing the same shit decade after decade, literally.
 

New Zelda does look like a departure from the standard Zelda formula at least.

[Take My Breh Away]

https://twitter.com/kenbone18/status/787724740421038080

Ken Bone lurks GAF

[Phoenix Dark]

I have no beef with Bone. Lots of even handed posts, even if I disagree with some of them


He is clearly not a shit poster.

[agrajag]

OMG. Without checking, I'm going to assert that there's at least one meta-post about how important and influential GAF is in the Ken Bone thread.

[zepblackstar]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1294825

Gaffer complains that a Disney film is not true to its source material.

Next on GAF: we complain about accuracy in Clash of the Titans and Hercules the TV series.

Thats a Ryulong like post...

[Great Rumbler]

I have no beef with Bone. Lots of even handed posts, even if I disagree with some of them


He is clearly not a shit poster.

It's really ridiculous. Ken Bone isn't a public figure or a politician or anything like that. He's some random dude who asked a question at a Presidential debate. But the internet immediately seized on him, made him a hero, made him a villain, and now virtually every piece of personal information out there is being carefully dissected. If it was me, I'd probably crawl into a hole somewhere and pray for death.

[Raist]

I'll never understand GAF's unconditional love for Iwata. He was a rather no-name dev and then suit until he got parachuted at the head of Nintendo.
Neither the Wii nor the DS were his doing. The 3DS and the WiiU were, they tanked, and are nothing but derivative hardware anyway. He's really not done much at all to try to improve and diversify Nintendo's SW output. His leadership years were pretty much business as usual.

As for Pachter, I'm suspecting he said that to troll the fuck out of GAF.

I'm gonna need sources for this.

Both pieces of HW were already in concept/development stages before Iwata succeeded to Yamauchi. He just happened to take the lead at that point.
Brain Training was "his" idea though, I'll give you that.

NDS:

The idea for using two screens on a single device originated with Yamauchi before his retirement, while Miyamoto suggested the use of a touchscreen.[41] Miyamoto subsequently spearheaded development of the device and its prototypes.

Not that it was particularly original for Nintendo though. It's a clear throwback to the Game&Watch stuff.


Wii:

Development of a motion enabled controller began in 2001, coinciding with development of the Wii console. In that year, Nintendo licensed a number of motion-sensing patents from Gyration Inc., a company that produces wireless motion-sensing computer mice.[1] Nintendo then commissioned Gyration Inc. to create a one-handed controller for it,[1] which eventually developed the "Gyropod", a more traditional gamepad which allowed its right half to break away for motion-control.[1] At this point, Gyration Inc. brought in a separate design firm Bridge Design to help pitch its concept to Nintendo.[2] Under requirement to "roughly preserve the existing Game Cube [sic] button layout", it experimented with different forms "through sketches, models and interviewing various hardcore gamers".[2] By "late 2004, early 2005", however, Nintendo had come up with the Wii Remote's less traditional "wand shape", and the design of the Nunchuk attachment.[3] Nintendo had also decided upon using a motion sensor, infrared pointer, and the layout of the buttons,[3] and by the end of 2005 the controller was ready for mass production.[3]

During development of the Wii Remote, video game designer Shigeru Miyamoto brought in mobile phones and controllers for automotive navigation systems for inspiration, eventually producing a prototype that resembled a cell phone.[3] Another design featured both an analog stick and a touchscreen, but Nintendo rejected the idea of a touchscreen on the controller, "since the portable console and living-room console would have been exactly the same".[3] Coincidentally, this idea would later be implemented on the Wii U's GamePad controller.

Sources also indicate that the Wii Remote was originally in development as a controller for the Nintendo GameCube, rather than the Wii. Video game developer Factor 5 stated that during development of launch title Star Wars Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader, it had an early prototype of a motion-sensing controller.[4]

[Dennis]

Look at all the science experts in here:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1294842

 

Sections of GAF are now so far fringe that they have left orbit.

[Raist]

"Science as a whole is a product of western modernity"

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

[Great Rumbler]

"Science as a whole is a product of western modernity"

[railGUN]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1294849

 

[Nola]

Look at all the science experts in here:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1294842

 

Sections of GAF are now so far fringe that they have left orbit.

How are people getting banned in that thread lol?

[railGUN]

Glad no one got hurt but I think we should wait until there's some sort of evidence before jumping to conclusions.

 

Good one!

[bluemax]

Iwata was a pretty decent programmer back in the day, I dunno that that qualified him to be the head of a massive corporation but shrug.

[Trent Dole]

Iwata made Kirby.

[zomgee]

Look at all the science experts in here:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1294842

 

Sections of GAF are now so far fringe that they have left orbit.

How are people getting banned in that thread lol?

Because Besada is in the thread.

[Raist]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1294825

Gaffer complains that a Disney film is not true to its source material.

Next on GAF: we complain about accuracy in Clash of the Titans and Hercules the TV series.

I don't know if parents would have been OK with bringing their kids to watch a cartoon about a bisexual child murderer.

[I'm a Puppy!]

I think it's funny how anyone that does something they don't like is suddenly a "most likely trump supporter"

[railGUN]

Your thoughts on terrorism?

As long as no one was hurt, my gut reaction to this is "Good." I hate how this election has shifted my thinking.

 

[agrajag]

I think it's funny how anyone that does something they don't like is suddenly a "most likely trump supporter"

Trump supporter is the new gator.

[benjipwns]

it's unfortunate that republican rhetoric has pushed things to this point

In an era where you can see anons planning mass deployments of sockpuppets, fantasizing about tactics just like this, all in the context of a discourse in their communities almost entirely based on making the "other side" look like hypocrites in the absence of a truly consistent ideology, AND the several notable incidents that actually were "false flags" since 2008...

It's worth entertaining. Not assuming it to be true, but it should be part of the discussion. Because this is where we are with fringe politics. There's zero reason to take something at face value, especially when they leave a visual calling card.

I'm so depressed by this election that my first thought when seeing this is "I bet they did it to themselves." Looks like I wasn't the only one, either.

I'm not saying they did though, and thank god nobody was hurt. I'll echo the others saying this is absolutely NOT how you get things done and I hope those responsible are caught and punished. Imagine if there had been anyone inside? Jesus.

How do police go about finding out who did it in a situation like this? I'd imagine there's just tons of fingerprints all over the damn place since obviously that's a place where lots of people meet and work. Do they just lift whatever prints they can* and start calling everyone in for questioning? Maybe some nearby security cameras caught something?

*I am assuming the stuff I've seen in movies/TV about prints being like "burned in" to objects is real, I honestly have no idea if it is or not.

Don't forget: 3 months ago a federal court struck down North Carolina's Voter ID Law, which was spearheaded by the NC GOP, and said of the law "the new provisions target African Americans with almost surgical precision".

ahh, so it's the blacks who done it

[benjipwns]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220300630&postcount=125

[Boredfrom]

The thing is that, while stupid toxic rethoric has been spew in both sides, is Trump the candidate that has outright started to encourage it to a insane degree, so I get why people are going to get defensive about the argument of a big segment of both camps acting like pricks.

Of course, many from Gaf doesnt seem to understand why fire bombing politcal HQs are bad for a democracy regardless of the alligance.

[benjipwns]

stop getting your political views from a cartoon and promoting the juvenile both sides do it rhetoric, that's just supporting Trump and his Breitbartschutzstaffel as they literally burn down the literal Reichstag rhetorically

only this time it's a false flag op, unlike the Reichstag fire

[clothedmacuser]

Does anyone else think the GOP employed crisis actors and sandy hooked the entire thing?  How the fuck is calling it a false flag operation not frowned upon?  Mods need to grow some fucking balls.

[Dennis]

An empty cardboard box.

[Huff]

Have u tried suffocating on your on our dick?

[Huff]

Or another dick? No judging

[thisismyusername]

Iwata was a pretty decent programmer back in the day, I dunno that that qualified him to be the head of a massive corporation but shrug.

He apparently knew the direction that Yamauchi wanted the company to go in and understood games better than Yamauchi, hence why he was selected. But...

[benjipwns]

At one point yesterday:

(Image removed from quote.)

The Trump hysteria on GAF isn't because the forum is left-wing (it's not really) or they're Democratic partisans (though there are a lot of them who won't allow any criticism of the party leadership unlike a few cycles ago) or they're SJW's or cucks or whatever. It's really a frame of reference issue. Their political life is 4-6 years for the most part, topping out at 8 for many. The Iraq War "debate" they never experienced. It was fifteen years ago that 9/11 was carried out by Republicans. They've already re-written Romney and McCain and the Bushes into being "good ones they could vote for" to magnify their narrative about Trump being the most [whatever] in world history. A lot of them probably aren't even veterans of Romney's War on Women.

And they're the perfect consumers of the 24/7 gorge and move on political news cycle. (Perfected on gaming side.) Remember Kim Davis? That was a year and a month ago. GAF had an orgy of outrage for like a week and a half. She's still on the job as County Clerk. Nobody cares anymore.

It's a natural process in historical recording among common culture that things are compressed. The 2004 election was two Presidential elections ago. Does anyone remember the controversies of the week? How many people remember the Swift Boat Veterans exposing John Kerry's lies? Rathergate exposing Dan Rather's frequency of lies? I voted for the 87 billion before I voted against it. The secret plan to re-instate the draft if Bush won. Bush wearing a radio transmitter during the first debate. Kerry smuggling in a secret card of answers. Massachusetts recognizing gay marriage. Bush's secret timber interests. Dean wanting to be the candidate for guys with Confederate flags. Everything John Kerry did against the Vietnam war, including plotting to assassinate politicians maybe, probably. Richard Clarke's book. The 9/11 Commission Report. Iraq Survey Group Report. Abu Ghraib. Farenheit 9/11. James McGreevey. Bill Clinton's book and heart problems. Reagan dying. The Guardian writing a letter to Ohio voters telling them to vote Kerry. Campaign offices being broken into and shot at. Bush Administration raises the terror alert. A bunch of gay marriage referenda just happening to get on the ballot. John Edwards says stem cell research would have meant Christopher Reeves (who just died) would have walked again. Teresa Heinz Kerry not knowing what to order at Wendy's. Bush stealing Ohio.

I mean before I mentioned those, now of course, you remember every little stupid thing and if you're remembering more you want to drown yourself in a bathtub of acid. And/or bring back Badnarik.

The one area where it does share with some of those other fads is the virtue signaling, it's about the laziest and easiest way to do the laziest and easiest form of protest. It was already hard enough five years ago to come up with a "well, at least he" for Trump that doesn't include the existence of Ivanka.

But again, frame of reference. Trump had 40 years of a toxic public history. For a lot of people on GAF he was The Apprentice host and a birther.

Another frame of reference point. Trump hasn't brought anything new to the table, he's clumsily adopted the rhetoric on immigration and RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISM of the base that it's held for 20+ and 15+ years respectively.

Speaking of John Kerry, frames of reference, the past, etc.

Sen. John Kerry apologized Wednesday for telling a joke about shooting Vice President-elect Dan Quayle, saying he regretted repeating the story he had heard in Washington.

At a businessman's breakfast Tuesday, Kerry responded to a question about Quayle's ability to govern by saying, "Somebody told me the other day that the Secret Service has orders that if George Bush is shot, they're to shoot Quayle,"

At least we sometimes learn from the past.

[benjipwns]

 

[Joe Molotov]

bless up, benji

[curly]

Idk I remember all that stuff and still think the whole Trump thing is pretty wild

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I was in a swing state college in 2004 so I got to see a number of celebrities talk to students about how we all need to vote for Kerry.  The most positive experience I had was with Dave Matthews, who was just kind of wandering around and saw him just meandering around our bookstore.  I was with a friend who recognized who he was right away.  Was very friendly and polite.  Michael Moore was two hours late and did a half hour speech, which pissed off the audience.  Then I attended an Ann Coulter rally where she looked like skeletor in person.  Asshat Kutcher was there and man, fuck that guy.  There were others but I forget now.

[benjipwns]

I'm trying to say that the hyper consumptive news cycle and social media's interaction with it creates and re-enforces the idea that every outrage story, Trump or otherwise...Trump now because he's the GOP candidate, has to top the previous one or pretend it does to feed the constant rush and need for ever consumptive signaling and outgrouping.

GAF's just an ideal example of it because gaming side shows the same phenomena.

But I mean you can go on Breitbart or whatever and see the same behavior almost 180 degrees reversed in terms of how the subject matter is portrayed or what's being outraged about.

The fetishization of EVERYTHING IS POLITICAL AND TAKE A SIDE peppered with ulterior motives and secret dogwhistles drives the no fun allowed mindset when everything is a perceived proxy battle in the endless culture war.

Also, disagreeing with anything in this post proves that you're trying to establish a secular atheist caliphate on the internet to outlaw memes.

[Nola]

I'd happily bet money it won't have a female protagonist (and that there will be several dozen thinkpieces about it). Rockstar's a fantastic developer but they're also (based on the reading I've done) one of the more toxic "boy's clubs" in the industry and I don't see a world where a female protagonist would survive that cultural gauntlet.

I don't think we'll see a Rockstar game with a female main protagonist anytime soon. Possibly as one of the main protagonists (assuming they do something similar to GTAV) though. That would be neat.

 

spoiler (click to show/hide)

[close]

It only took GAF several hundred posts of speculation and virtue signaling before someone pointed out that Red Dead Revolver, in 2004, already had playable female and Native American's in prominent roles in this series:

They already did that in Revolver, central narrative with Red and then "side" missions with other protagonists/antagonists. It's a bit more Halo Reach than GTA5, but it's been done in the Red Dead games before.

On a positive note, I learned at least one person on GAF still play games they argue about endlessly.

[benjipwns]

Rockstar's a fantastic developer but they're also (based on the reading I've done) one of the more toxic "boy's clubs" in the industry and I don't see a world where a female protagonist would survive that cultural gauntlet.

that's not the toxic culture about Rockstar that comes to my mind when you mention it

spoiler (click to show/hide)

i'm sure the thousands of endless crunch temps would be happy to put an female protagonist in the game to remind them of their wife and daughters they haven't seen in six months

[close]

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

You don't actually expect GAF to actually play any games, right?

[bluemax]

All these people getting worked up over Table Tennis getting XB1 BC.

[railGUN]

Amir0x lecturing people about fraudulent charities. 

[thisismyusername]

All these people getting worked up over Table Tennis getting XB1 BC.

That's what Rockstar turned red for? 

[benjipwns]

I meant more that it showed the full scope of GAF in 2016: Freaking out over the "enemy", but also upset about 80s cartoon toys being too expensive and having existential crises. TO me, that snap shot of threads on the front page explained why GAF traffic has fallen off and EL has to rely on scamming his userbase with malware to get some ad revenue. Who the fuck wants to go to a place where people spend most of their days making threads on every comment Trump makes and are upset about the state of cartoon toy prices and need advice on what toys to get for their cats?

Do you ever wonder why we really exist?

All these people getting worked up over Table Tennis getting XB1 BC.

That's what Rockstar turned red for? 

http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/feature/a795096/why-rockstars-table-tennis-was-even-more-important-than-gta/

[thisismyusername]

I couldn't care if Table Tennis is good or not. I'm just -ing how people worked themselves into a furor without even knowing what Rockstar was announcing.

[Nola]

I'm trying to say that the hyper consumptive news cycle and social media's interaction with it creates and re-enforces the idea that every outrage story, Trump or otherwise...Trump now because he's the GOP candidate, has to top the previous one or pretend it does to feed the constant rush and need for ever consumptive signaling and outgrouping.

GAF's just an ideal example of it because gaming side shows the same phenomena.

But I mean you can go on Breitbart or whatever and see the same behavior almost 180 degrees reversed in terms of how the subject matter is portrayed or what's being outraged about.

The fetishization of EVERYTHING IS POLITICAL AND TAKE A SIDE peppered with ulterior motives and secret dogwhistles drives the no fun allowed mindset when everything is a perceived proxy battle in the endless culture war.

Also, disagreeing with anything in this post proves that you're trying to establish a secular atheist caliphate on the internet to outlaw memes.

I mean I agree with pretty much all your commentary on media, young millineals, and the vicious cycle leading to the increasing catastrophizing of politics, with that said, Trump is still kinda the worst lol.

Trump brings to the table this unique alchemy of populism, fascism, ignorance of the job, poor temperament and arrogance in the face of that ignorance that presidential politics hasn't really seen in this country, at this level, with this much support, in some time IMO. I think a lot of the shit out there overstates or misses the mark but I do think, objectively, Trump is on a different level from recent candidates of major parties in terms of the potential for negative consequences on numerous fronts that can be reasonably argued to be concerned with due to that unique alchemy and his platform. Mostly stemming from decision-making with foreign-policy. Domestically I think the case against him is likely vastly overstated. Though still damaging(from my liberal perspective lol).

[benjipwns]

Herman Cain was leading in the GOP polls before his sex scandals ended his candidacy early.

Then Newt Gingrich became the new leader after fighting with the debate moderators. Then Rick Santorum became the new leader because nobody else was left until circumstances had him leave a race he was gaining support in.

Pat Buchanan got enough of a primary following after challenging the sitting President (And David Duke got 2+% in all but three of the primaries he ran in) that it got him a keynote speech to announce the culture wars in the same election where Ross Perot at one point led in the polls and still nearly got 20% of the vote after dropping out because he claimed George Bush was going to ruin his daughters wedding and then getting back in running on what is essentially a pro-choice and detailed rather than vague version of Trump's platform. Buchanan would then win three of the first four primaries in 1996.

[benjipwns]

. Mostly stemming from decision-making with foreign-policy.

What's he gonna do, start a global war with completely undefined goals or specifically named enemies that has no end in sight?

[Raist]

I couldn't care if Table Tennis is good or not. I'm just -ing how people worked themselves into a furor without even knowing what Rockstar was announcing.

The vidyas news cycle:

Company X: "Tune in on monday guys, we have an announcement!"

GAF: "HOLY SHIT THEY'RE GOING TO BRING BACK Y AND IT'S GOING TO MELT OUR FUCKING FACES"

Company X: "We partenered with McDonald's to have Game Z-themed Happy Meals!"

GAF: "WTF IS THIS SHIT FUCK OFF WHERE'S THAT THING WE TOTALLY MADE UP IN OUR MINDS BASED ON NOTHING. YOU SUCK"


Rinse and repeat.

[Nola]

. Mostly stemming from decision-making with foreign-policy.

What's he gonna do, start a global war with completely undefined goals or specifically named enemies that has no end in sight?

Lol. Or several...I see your point, to an extent. I would still argue there are some unique aspects of this individual case that have(or I guess "had" given a Trump presidency seems more improbable by the day) a justifiably heightened legitimacy of concern above recent past examples.

Anyways, no need for me to continue side tracking with my liberal tinged nonsense..

[benjipwns]

The vidyas news cycle:

Company X: "Tune in on monday guys, we have an announcement!"

GAF: "HOLY SHIT THEY'RE GOING TO BRING BACK Y AND IT'S GOING TO MELT OUR FUCKING FACES"

Company X: "We partenered with McDonald's to have Game Z-themed Happy Meals!"

GAF: "WTF IS THIS SHIT FUCK OFF WHERE'S THAT THING WE TOTALLY MADE UP IN OUR MINDS BASED ON NOTHING. YOU SUCK"


Rinse and repeat.

can't trust these corporations man they're always hyping up something

[Tasty]

Fuck it, pretty sure I'll be back on GAF in a few weeks. Was a good 2.5 years while it lasted.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Going back purely due to HxH loneliness and missing my ToonamiGAF bros.

[close]

[VomKriege]

We have been very careful about not treating the GOP and its voters as the scum of the Earth for the longest time, and the end result is that they nominated a white supremacist, racist, misogynist.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220332169&postcount=3411

[benjipwns]

the worst part is after the big corporations do all that hyping about nothing they steal away into the night leaving sticks and debris in front of their former headquarters

[Momo]

The sticks and debris are there so you cannot see fellow curious entities when visiting said location

[benjipwns]

We have been very careful about not treating the GOP and its voters as the scum of the Earth for the longest time, and the end result is that they nominated a white supremacist, racist, misogynist.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220332169&postcount=3411

I'm done. I'm fucking done. People can go one second decrying the modern GOP as a bastion of hate and violence but turn around the next and insist its our job to extend an olive branch. I don't know about you but if a campaign station run by the KKK burned down I would not be terribly pressed to rebuild it, and the modern GOP is a hairs breadth away

This is a failing of left, I feel.

Like...the GOP has done and said heinous shit. Despite that, it's always the Dems giving quarter when it comes to partisanship, it's always the Dems who have had to be Center-left more than the opposition being Center-right.

It's like...there's an air of 'We must treat everyone equally' when it comes to the left side. This includes the racist, backwards, GOP base. The only reason why it seems Democrats have gotten their teeth back, is because Trump is an easy target. But it's only been what, this last month that they've started really calling the GOPs shit out? And even then, their attacks are 'Well you support Trump so this and that...well your party elected Trump, this and that...'. After this year it's going to revert back to what, 'we must treat everyone equally and we're going to help everyone?' while the GOP takes their quarter and keeps attacking?

It annoys me, as well. The place burnt down, oh well, they should stop peddling hate. Who gives a fuck about there poor building. Oh, someone called them Nazis? Good, that's what they basically want to be at this point: 'Deport all the minorities! Fuck black people and their troubles! We shall make America White again!' .

Honestly, if more GOP buildings burnt down, I wouldn't blink. They are an institution of hate; Their main trade has become the festering of this hate; They've never extended an olive branch, only burnt them down themselves.

Now, I'm sure there are Republicans who are fiscal conservatives. The truth is though, the modern GOP is not for you. Find something else that doesn't have decades of hate sewn into it. What you say is 'Government putting their tentacles all over our lives', is what we call 'The government trying to make things fair and equal for everyone no matter their race, creed, or religion.'

And I'm sure there are Republicans on this site. I'm sure you're the fiscal conservative type. I'm sure you don't want the big bad government mingling into your affairs. But the reality is, your party isn't about that. They want to impose more control upon their citizens. They want to control society. What restrooms people can use. Whether you can marry a person or not of the same sex. Whether you can move to America and live here. Whether you can freely practice your religion without being punished in an institution for choosing to not say 'Under god'. Whether you can protest the treatment of minorities without being lambasted by mainly white folk. That is the Republican way. That is the party you support.

my mang

To be honest, if this turned out to be a bombing done by, say, a trans person, I wouldn't be able to say in good conscience that it was morally wrong because I believe the oppressed always has the right to fight their oppressor, who struck first. I don't think all violence is equal.just because it's violence. I think intention matters.