VOAT Containment Megathread of Trash People for Trash People

[Phoenix Dark]

OMG ANIME BOOBS

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she wouldn't be my first choice. believe me

[Shuri]

So a 'security team', a 'sysadmin team' and an 'ads team' could not figure out for 36 hours that those popups were not from GAF-approved ads sources?

 

[railGUN]

I'm sure everything is just hunky-dory now at GAF. 

It's a god damn miracle it took this long for that place to get hacked (makes you wonder). 

This is pretty much how I picture that place being run.

[Klelk]

The incident was identified by our ad team

Started laughing here

[FStop7]

Started from the bottom now my ad team here

[VomKriege]

Neogaf "ad and security team", Lore's ARG 

[TakingBackSunday]

It would take literally minutes to identify that problem.  GAF is so shitty lol

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

So a 'security team', a 'sysadmin team' and an 'ads team' could not figure out for 36 hours that those popups were not from GAF-approved ads sources?

 

Evilore spends as little money as possible on that site.  Those team members are probably volunteers (read: unpaid) or totally fictitious.

[Rufus]

I think Gromph gets paid for his trouble.

[Shuri]

neogaf was already hacked once, by an Australia hacker that broke into the admin panel and deleted a bunch of anti-nintendo trolls. I ended up in that lot of deleted people. Their solution was to ban australia as a whole from the forum

This was back in 2004 or so

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

neogaf was already banned once, by an Australia hacker that broke into the admin panel and deleted a bunch of anti-nintendo trolls. I ended up in that lot of deleted people. Their solution was to ban australia as a whole from the forum

This was back in 2004 or so

I wish he continued it.  One of the worst cunts I ever saw on GAF, xabre, was from Australia

[TakingBackSunday]

If he wants to turn neogaf into a profitable endeavor:

- monetize accounts
- reach out to gaming press to integrate accounts into comment sections on articles
- fix your fucking ads
- spend money on maintenance

[TakingBackSunday]

/hot take

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

He really should go the GAF Gold route.  The downside to that of course is that the expectations from the gold users will be higher.  Evilore will actually need to spend some of the money on the site instead of getting a better apartment, a new sports car, or a trip to Thailand with it.

[Averon]

Other that protected posters, who would be dumb enough to pay for Gold with the kind of moderation team GAF has? For GAF Gold to be a long-term and viable, the current mods will have to be significantly changed or 'Lore is going to have to crack down on them. I don't see him doing either option.

[I'm a Puppy!]

Lol it's too late now to make any real money

[TakingBackSunday]

What if Gold membership was the gateway to a specially-curated, monthly Humble Bundle-esque package of games and/or deals for PSN, Xbox Live, or Steam games?

That mixed with specialized forums could get some losers to pony up

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Yeah I'm talking about Evilore being able to sustain an upper middle class income with NeoGAF ($100k-250k) for the next several years; the days of him being a millionaire are long since gone.

[Averon]

What if Gold membership was the gateway to a specially-curated, monthly Humble Bundle-esque package of games and/or deals for PSN, Xbox Live, or Steam games?

That mixed with specialized forums could get some losers to pony up

Who's going to pay for that? 'Lore might, but he's proven to be cheap and lazy regarding GAF, so I doubt it. I don't MS or Sony want to have anything to do with the forum. Sony used to give shout outs to GAF fairly regularly several years ago. Now, not so much. MS is pretty much a pariah there and they know it.

They might get lucky and get some desperate indie dev to sponsor something.

[agrajag]

Yeah I'm talking about Evilore being able to sustain an upper middle class income with NeoGAF ($100k-250k) for the next several years; the days of him being a millionaire are long since gone.

well, if he was smart he would've invested a ton instead of spending it all on trips to Thailand and such

[Dennis]

1. Invite back the old members and industry people.

2. Tell the moderation team to stop acting like they are in a community theatre production of Animal Farm.

3. Fix the ads I guess, or do GAF Gold or whatever.

Long term problems solved.

[helios]

GAF will move to pay-per-post.

[zepblackstar]

way too many outlets all better than neogaf for it to be a leader in anything anymore. Time has passed.

Thats why i admire evil figured out to farm loyal spergs type group of people in check that think neogaf is their safe space.

[Averon]

I remember when 'Lore got really mad at BCT for something and locked BCT thread. Bishoptl, seemingly overruling 'Lore, came and unlocked the thread an hour or two later. 

That incident pretty much told me as long as Bishoptl remains on staff, the mod situation will never improve.

[Dennis]

way too many outlets all better than neogaf for it to be a leader in anything anymore. Time has passed.

Thats why i admire evil figured out to farm loyal spergs type group of people in check that think neogaf is their safe space.

What are the outlets better at NeoGAF for games discussion? Specifically, a discussion forum and not a news outlet like IGN or whatever.

I am not being facetious, I genuinely would like to know where to find something with the scope of GAF.

[thisismyusername]

1. Invite back the old members and industry people.

2. Tell the moderation team to stop acting like they are in a community theatre production of Animal Farm.

3. Fix the ads I guess, or do GAF Gold or whatever.

Long term problems solved.

Not while bitching about community threads forming "insular" communities.

[Rman]

No one cares about forums, brehs.  EL should've sold when forums were at their peak.  Go the serial entrepreneur route.

I know this is the bitch about GAF thread, but we only do it since we'll be banned in GAF proper. GAF is pretty good for getting gaming news, to be fair.

And community forum is good as well, as they are usually are self moderating, although not a money maker for EL, probably.

[zepblackstar]

way too many outlets all better than neogaf for it to be a leader in anything anymore. Time has passed.

Thats why i admire evil figured out to farm loyal spergs type group of people in check that think neogaf is their safe space.

What are the outlets better at NeoGAF for games discussion? Specifically, a discussion forum and not a news outlet like IGN or whatever.

I am not being facetious, I genuinely would like to know where to find something with the scope of GAF.

game discussion when it comes to specific games, you can go to reddit, facebook groups(moderated) and even gaming companies forums for most to get up to date news and discussion

Twitter also is better if you follow certain places for breaking news

dismissing clickbait opinion nonsense on ign, kotaku..etc. GAF just reprints links to all these places instead of breaking news

though if you think of GAF as an aggregated news sites, it does save time. Just the discussion after the first post is now complete dog shit.

[benjipwns]

Kind of depressing to see posters on the bore bawl about sjws, but I guess it was inevitable with most of the smarter members gradually drifting away.

more like butthurt social studies warrior buttfaced yasqueen wizard butthead amirite

[benjipwns]

owned lol

[agrajag]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1294606

She says that she has a cam and do a show for me. I told her that I don't have a cam but she said is ok and we can meet after the cam show.

Should I proceed?

She send a link to register and the website is asking for a credit card

[pilonv1]

1. Invite back the old members and industry people.

Sometimes you can't go home again

[Shuri]

1. Invite back the old members and industry people.

Why would industry people waste time on a forum anymore?

Twitter can reach hundreds of millions
Neogaf, 10k different users a day, at best?

Twitter can reach other industry personalities, youtube show hosts, super hardcore gamers AND regular joes too. Why waste time limiting yourself to modern gaf posers? They had a fucking megathread about playing SMB for the first time for God's sake!

It's filled with idiots who are scared of playing multiplayer games because they fear being exposed to swear words over the mic, or even getting their asses kicked.

It's not worth wasting time with Neogaf in 2016. The good posters are gone, it's all leftovers now.

Evilore has failed NeoGaf by refusing to adapt it to the modern internet.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

NeoGAF still isn't loading for me.  Oh well

[railGUN]

Wish my wife went down this often 

[Phoenix Dark]

Wish my wife went down this often 

[railGUN]

So NeoGAF was lagged the fuck out, goes down for a bit, then is back up and snappy again, like it was pre "attack".

Did competence web development solve the problem?

Or did he roll things back to before the emergency update?

 

You decide.

[bluemax]

1. Invite back the old members and industry people.

Why would industry people waste time on a forum anymore?

Twitter can reach hundreds of millions
Neogaf, 10k different users a day, at best?

Twitter can reach other industry personalities, youtube show hosts, super hardcore gamers AND regular joes too. Why waste time limiting yourself to modern gaf posers? They had a fucking megathread about playing SMB for the first time for God's sake!

It's filled with idiots who are scared of playing multiplayer games because they fear being exposed to swear words over the mic, or even getting their asses kicked.

It's not worth wasting time with Neogaf in 2016. The good posters are gone, it's all leftovers now.

Evilore has failed NeoGaf by refusing to adapt it to the modern internet.

I saw the lead programmer from a former Sony second party studio reading GAF at an event a few months ago.

Whatever he was reading he showed to his coworkers and they all laughed at it. That's pretty much where GAF is, its either a joke or irrelevant. When people talk about how to reach potential customers for their games its either Reddit, Twitter or Twitch, and maybe to a lesser degree Youtube.

The other thing I've noticed on GAF is the number of threads that remind me of threads I used to see on GameFAQs 15 years ago. And don't even get me started on all the MAFIA threads.

[Momo]

Mafia threads kinda ruined an anime forum i used to go to. Once you get those on your forum it's gg.

[bluemax]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=219970808&postcount=33

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=219971210&postcount=41

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=219974621&postcount=64

People for the accurate representation of Spergs in film.

[benjipwns]

I think I'll trust RottenTomatoes "top critics" thanks.

http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/reviews/peter-travers-the-accountant-movie-review-w443904

Preposterous can be defined in many, many ways. But for now, let's use the plot details of The Accountant as Exhibit A. Ben Affleck, bravely tackling an impossible role, stars as Christian Wolf, a math wiz whose position on the autism spectrum has made him perfect material to moonlight as a paid assassin. That notion is offensive on so many levels, especially in the service of such low-grade crime fiction, that it's hard to focus on the other faults in the script

He gets help from Dana (Anna Kendrick), a numbers cutie who relates to Christian in spite of his limited social skills. Much (alleged) humor is mined from oue hero's mental challenges.

The backstory, such as it is, tells us that the numbers-genius savant was the victim of a military father unwilling to let his son be a freak. So naturally, he instead training the boy as a killing machine. Right.

http://www.indiewire.com/2016/10/the-accountant-review-ben-affleck-jason-bourne-gavin-oconnor-1201735800/

Redefining what it means to be a mathlete, Affleck stars as Christian Wolff, the most lethal dweeb in rural Illinois. Nearly an hour goes by before anyone mentions the word “autism” (in one of the film’s myriad flashbacks, a therapist appears to dodge the rhetoric by claiming that he doesn’t like labels), but the character is defined by his developmental issues from the start. And that’s a shame, because Affleck acts autism like he took all of his cues from Drax the Destroyer in “Guardians of the Galaxy,” broadly affectless and numb to sarcasm but without the benefit of actually being a humanoid alien from a distant world.

But somewhere underneath all of the shootings, somewhere beneath the surface of this woefully overcomplicated saga of fake names and flimsy narratives, lurks a nice message about how people on the spectrum should be treated as different, but not less than. They are not uncommunicative, but simply communicate in different ways.

There’s a long and spotty history of movies where mental health issues are treated like misdiagnosed superpowers (e.g. “Phenomenon,” to go with a particularly inane example), and O’Connor’s hands are too shaky to thread the needle between making Christian a high-functioning adult who refuses to see himself as a victim, and — well — a superhero.

http://nypost.com/2016/10/13/an-autistic-ben-affleck-figures-big-in-the-accountant/

If you’re going to make the first mainstream movie about autism since “Rain Man,” maybe don’t feature an anti-hero who’s highly adept at shooting people in the head. The already-beleaguered autism community can probably do without a portrayal of a guy with a medically diagnosed “narrow focus” who splits his time between crunching numbers and taking out scores of extras with a semi-automatic.

But the film also suggests Christian’s autism inclines him toward carnage. In a series of numbingly similar gunfights, he dispatches one adversary after another with a single deadly shot, unbothered by the mounting body count.

“The Accountant” is hardly alone in its disregard for human lives that don’t come up high enough on the cast list to have a name. But making its perpetrator autistic adds insult to injury, especially in a world where the condition is often erroneously linked with psychopathic behavior, such as in the shootings in Connecticut and Oregon. Thrillers can be a valid Hollywood escape, but this one made me as uncomfortable as its hero is with small talk.

[benjipwns]

TOMATOMETER
51%
Average Rating: 5.7/10
Reviews Counted: 136

AUDIENCE SCORE
87%
liked it
Average Rating: 4.2/5
User Ratings: 18,097

smh America, way to die on the hill on the wrong side of history

[benjipwns]

Interesting that RT gives critics an absolute quality 10 point scale while forcing its users to use a subjective enjoyment 5 point scale.

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You can't compare a 5 point scale to a 10 point scale directly. They are measuring two separate things. A 10 point scale is an attempt to measure a game's absolute quality while a 5 point scale tries to to rate how much the reviewer enjoyed the game.

Implicit in the 5 point scale is that the middle score of 3 represents an average enjoyment, but enjoyment isn't a neutral term in an absolute sense. That's why it is wrong to try to equate a 3 on the 5 point enjoyment scale to a 5 on the 10 point absolute scale.

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I think it would help if reviewers gave each aspect of a game a score and then showed the math that explains how they came up with their final overall score.

People who only care about numbers still get their final score.

People who only care about words still get their write-ups.

But people like me who love logistics and want something in-between will finally have a system that will help them understand the subjective mentality put forth by reviewers.

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[Raist]

I could just be overreacting but the previews for this movie actually made me a little mad. The main character is clearly autistic and he's portrayed in all of the wrong ways in the preview, like he's a superhero with extreme information processing abilities but can't feel emotions.

[VomKriege]

1. Invite back the old members and industry people.

There's still "industry" and media people on GAF or reading it but the thing is that more often than not there's no good discussion to be had for them. Difficult to have a meaningful conversation on games over there today and you're only opening yourself for being tarred and feathered the day your employer does something the GAF community don't like.

[VomKriege]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1294639

Pachter dissed Iwata company leadership 

Bullshit. "The late and great" is about how the person was loved, not how perfect their business record was. Iwata was a good guy that went out of his way to help the people around him and had a genuine passion for life, which is what made him great.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220262472&postcount=324

The necrobump when Pachter dies will be glorious.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220262256&postcount=319

Repugnant words from a repugnant human being.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220253038&postcount=217

I bet he votes for Trump too

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220251426&postcount=187

You're also talking about the last 3 or so years of a man's 56 year life, the vast majority of which as spent in the gaming industry, and most of it spent celebrated by his colleagues, employees, and the industry in general. Cherry picking a man's low points and using them to dismiss the body of his achievements in a terse throwaway comment is missing the point of life in general.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220256551&postcount=250

Dem tears.

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It's a tasteless comment to be sure, but the beatification of Iwata as a gaming saint on GAF is ridiculous. Maybe he was a great guy in life, cleaning oiled-up birds and acting as a clown in an orphanage (though no one on GAF will be able to confirm or deny it, really), but it's obvious that what's being discussed is his tenure as a CEO.

EDIT : Oh and Pachter apologized...

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[benjipwns]

Classy as always, Pachter. The cheap shots are just too easy, aren't they?

Iwata was, by all accounts, a great man. Telling us he was a gamer at heart, he guided the development teams into developing games that he himself liked to play. He cared about the gamer's experience. He obviously cared a great deal about Nintendo as he (somewhat) opened up the previously secretive company with things like Iwata Asks and developer interviews during the E3 videos. During his tenure as CEO he oversaw the release of Nintendo's most successful consoles in the Wii and DS, another successful console in the 3DS and one failure in the Wii... which Nintendo at least never lost money on, always selling above manufacturing price. Even Nintendo's worst selling home console was profitable. Ask Microsoft about profits in hardware.

I didn't agree with every decision he made but I respected his reasons and opinions. Kimishima stated that he agrees with the philosophy and course Iwata has set out for NX, so if that machine is a success as we all hope (and suspect) it will be, that'll be another notch in his belt. He has seen to Nintendo's future with new studios and new talent being given a superb education by people such as Miyamoto, who cannot stick around forever. We are already seeing the fruits of the new generation in wonderfully creative games like Splatoon.

Pachter's continued cheap shots will not mar the man's wonderful legacy.

[benjipwns]

Why would you do this?

What possible benefit comes to you from talking shit about a dead guy that your industry reveres and admires, even if there were some business missteps near the end of his life?

Like, if you wanted to have a commentary about how the WiiU was some bad decisions under his watch and the market changing and them not reacting fast enough, fine.

But this drive by shitposting of the recently deceased is totally gross. Get out of here, pachter. I always had the image of him as some rich disconnected asshole. He's probably secretly a trump supporter.

[benjipwns]

Iwata was great before even becoming the CEO of Nintendo. This is probably the best example of how silly console wars lead to people acting like children. Taking a cheap shot at a deceased person just because you don't like how they managed a company. Doesn't get more absurd than that.

There's a lot of statements that other people came up with that aren't worth using. How would you feel if someone referred to your father in this way.

Bullshit. "The late and great" is about how the person was loved, not how perfect their business record was. Iwata was a good guy that went out of his way to help the people around him and had a genuine passion for life, which is what made him great.

The hell is this?

You should be thanking the guy for what he did for the industry.

Jesus.

Don't see the point in insulting a dead person that can't defend them self or argue against the point of said insult. Pachter is a very weak-minded individual.

http://gonintendo.com/stories/266853-gonintendo-will-no-longer-share-michael-pachter-commentary

From here on out, we will not be covering anything else Michael Pachter shares in his analysis or commentary.

[Raist]

I'll never understand GAF's unconditional love for Iwata. He was a rather no-name dev and then suit until he got parachuted at the head of Nintendo.
Neither the Wii nor the DS were his doing. The 3DS and the WiiU were, they tanked, and are nothing but derivative hardware anyway. He's really not done much at all to try to improve and diversify Nintendo's SW output. His leadership years were pretty much business as usual.

As for Pachter, I'm suspecting he said that to troll the fuck out of GAF.

[Raist]

ten gaf quotes on this page alone

how about a trigger warning next time

But... it's in the title.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

The man's been dead for over a year, can an analyst not make an off-hand remark that the previous CEO wasn't great handling the company? Especially when that analyst has been criticizing that same CEO for years?

 On another note, Pachter is a hack.

 The world moves on.

Poor Benji needs a break. So much stress generated from some of the many failure to launches piling on piss poor replies on top of stupid topics on gaf now.

Why should I give two shits what somebody who still asks his mommy for allowance thinks about business or politics?

[benjipwns]

 

[agrajag]

Poor Benji

[thisismyusername]

I'll never understand GAF's unconditional love for Iwata. He was a rather no-name dev and then suit until he got parachuted at the head of Nintendo.
Neither the Wii nor the DS were his doing. The 3DS and the WiiU were, they tanked, and are nothing but derivative hardware anyway. He's really not done much at all to try to improve and diversify Nintendo's SW output. His leadership years were pretty much business as usual.

As for Pachter, I'm suspecting he said that to troll the fuck out of GAF.

I'm gonna need sources for this.

[Great Rumbler]

I'll never understand GAF's unconditional love for Iwata.

That's an easy one, really: he made goofy videos.

[mormapope]

He was also the figurehead behind the Wii, the Wii allowed Nintendo fanboys to gloat and shitpost non stop.

[Momo]

He was also the figurehead behind the Wii, the Wii allowed Nintendo fanboys to gloat and shitpost non stop.

That's all they could do really, the games were miserable piles of shit outside of a few first party titles. If I was them i'd shitpost over being subjected to actually playing Wii also

[agrajag]

PS fanbois shitpost more than they play games too 

Conclusion: shitposting is more fun than games.

[archie4208]

I still enjoy Nintendo games.