VOAT Containment Megathread of Trash People for Trash People

[daemon]

people are mad at a 8 minute video, but they sucked up one hour of Rachel Maddows "it's fucking nothing". Yep.

[FatalT]

people are mad at a 8 minute video, but they sucked up one hour of Rachel Maddows "it's fucking nothing". Yep.

So anyways in about 14 and a half hours I'm gonna be looking for a cat to fight demons with.

My Superdeep Borehole is ready.

---

But also why haven't you let somebody fuck you in your Borehole yet tho fam? Shit's cash.

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1357601

[WanderingWind]

(Image removed from quote.)

okay.

I bet whoever administered that ban thinks of themselves as a non-shithead, too. I'd be ashamed, deep down to the very fiber of my being, to even have a thought along those lines. I'm actually embarrassed on their behalf.

[Take My Breh Away]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1357615

The greatest question of our times

[Dennis]

How is playing Persona any different from watching anime?

You can't explain that 

[Mr. Nobody]

Scheduled Delivery:
Tuesday, 04/04/2017, By End of Day

 

[archie4208]

How is playing Persona any different from watching anime?

You can't explain that 

Can you pick your waifus in anime?  Didn't think so. 

[FatalT]

But also why haven't you let somebody fuck you in your Borehole yet tho fam? Shit's cash.

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1357601

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1357615

The greatest question of our times

Wonder how long that blatant parody thread will last before being Mod Botted.

How is playing Persona any different from watching anime?

You can't explain that 

Can you pick your waifus in anime?  Didn't think so. 

That's what I was about to say. It's like the difference between watching a movie and being in the movie. You get to make the choices. IT'S INTERACTIVE YO!

Strategy mostly.

SMT is all about building teams to hit most/all enemy weaknesses while buffing/debuffing. I usually spend more time fucking around with demon fusion to get demons with sick skillsets than anything else.

That feel when you've got Agidyne, Bufudyne, Ziodyne and Zandyne all on one demon

That too. It's like dark Pokemon for adults/weeaboos.

[Kara]

There's literally a Mega Ten Pokémon game.

[Averon]

Sort of surprised at all the positive Persona vibes. I assumed waifu gaming would be looked down upon here. 

[Kara]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233272248&postcount=74 

[FatalT]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233272248&postcount=74 

Are you shitting me? I don't think he'll survive that one. I'm impressed.

[Shuri]

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=233281954

"you should feel bad about not being outraged by this, heres why"

[railGUN]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1357651

Let's try to have a civil discussion.

 

[Rahxephon91]

Sort of surprised at all the positive Persona vibes. I assumed waifu gaming would be looked down upon here. 

The waifu parts get a lot of attention, but they're actually a pretty small part of the overall game. Most of the social links in the game are non-romantic, and s-links themselves are only a fraction of the game.

I mean it's like people forget these games have the same SMT press turn battle system that is fantastic.

I played 3 because I loved DDS, not because of waifus.

[counterhit]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1357651

Let's try to have a civil discussion.

 

MHWilliams is pretty decent, as mods go.

[FStop7]

Sort of surprised at all the positive Persona vibes. I assumed waifu gaming would be looked down upon here. 

It's funny because I'm not a JRPG person at all.  Yet, Persona 4 and The World Ends With You are near the top of my list of all time favorites.  From the hour I've seen of Persona 5 I think I'm going to love it.  The tone's way different than 4, at least in the early game.  It's much darker.

[FatalT]

Sort of surprised at all the positive Persona vibes. I assumed waifu gaming would be looked down upon here. 

The waifu parts get a lot of attention, but they're actually a pretty small part of the overall game. Most of the social links in the game are non-romantic, and s-links themselves are only a fraction of the game.

I mean it's like people forget these games have the same SMT press turn battle system that is fantastic.

I played 3 because I loved DDS, not because of waifus.

It's Final Fantasy with demons. The S-Links/Companionship-Point stuff is just on the side but REEEEE ANIMU! Are these same people flipping out over Bioware's ACTUAL fuck scenes? There's no sex in the Persona games.

Fuck, I'm defending an anime-like video game. What have I become?

[Mr. Nobody]

Sort of surprised at all the positive Persona vibes. I assumed waifu gaming would be looked down upon here. 

The waifu parts get a lot of attention, but they're actually a pretty small part of the overall game. Most of the social links in the game are non-romantic, and s-links themselves are only a fraction of the game.

I mean it's like people forget these games have the same SMT press turn battle system that is fantastic.

I played 3 because I loved DDS, not because of waifus.

It's Final Fantasy with demons. The S-Links/Companionship-Point stuff is just on the side but REEEEE ANIMU! Are these same people flipping out over Bioware's ACTUAL fuck scenes? There's no sex in the Persona games.

Fuck, I'm defending an anime-like video game. What have I become?

 

[stufte]

Saw GitS, it was OK. Mostly eyecandy  with a bit of decent action. On whitewashing:

spoiler (click to show/hide)

in the movie, runaways who were native japanese kids were rounded up and harvested and given new memories, and in order to cover that fact up the corporation covered it up by claiming they were foreign refugees murdered by terrorists and putting them in foreigner-looking shells.

[close]

It doesn't matter though, people are going to bitch and moan about it no matter what. Because it's 2017. 

[FStop7]

Rise > Chie > Fox > Teddy > Yukiko

[I'm a Puppy!]

Rise > Chie > Fox > Teddy > Yukiko

This needs to be the new Final fantasy ranking thing.

[Joe Molotov]

Naoto < Nanako < Mara

[benjipwns]

Got to love this classic humble brag from that gaming clothing thread

I bought this Castle Crashers tshirt for my wife at Pax East about 4 years ago and its still her favorite tshirt to this day.

Known in our home as "the poopin' deer shirt".

(Image removed from quote.)

It looks great on my wife because she's half white/Japanese with olive skin, black hair, and huge boobs.  The print is right over those juggernauts.

 

goddamn you half-Japanese girls, do it to me every time.. oh, the redhead said you shred the cello and I'm jello, baby

[benjipwns]

Above and beyond whatever is going on here, I think it's really embarrassing that there are people who are supposedly adults but voluntarily admit to enjoying YouTube drama channels. They're about a half-step below "Ow My Balls" in terms of what they contribute to the world, in that they're equally fucking worthless and stupid, but also turn viewers into miserable assholes and contribute to outrage culture.

i thought "outrage culture" was an alt-right gamergator myth and not to be mentioned on GAF

[Vertigo]

Saw GitS, it was OK. Mostly eyecandy  with a bit of decent action. On whitewashing:

spoiler (click to show/hide)

in the movie, runaways who were native japanese kids were rounded up and harvested and given new memories, and in order to cover that fact up the corporation covered it up by claiming they were foreign refugees murdered by terrorists and putting them in foreigner-looking shells.

[close]

It doesn't matter though, people are going to bitch and moan about it no matter what. Because it's 2017. 

Yeah it was a pretty solid movie. as for the 'twist' I mean for getting away from accusations of whitewashing it was a pretty smart explanation. TBH what they should have done is to basically transplant everything to the states like the Departed did. and rework it round that.

I just saw a thread on Gaf saying that the 'whitewashing' sunk the movie at the BO. And that Hollywood should take heed of what places like gaf say.

Most of those bums don't actually go to the cinema.

 

[Valkyrie]

Got to love this classic humble brag from that gaming clothing thread

 

Oh sweet, he's married to ScarJo?

ScarJo got a breast reduction, which is why Gaf doesn't like her anymore.

[thisismyusername]

Sort of surprised at all the positive Persona vibes. I assumed waifu gaming would be looked down upon here. 

Waifu shit isn't the only thing Persona did.

[Boredfrom]

Saw GitS, it was OK. Mostly eyecandy  with a bit of decent action. On whitewashing:

spoiler (click to show/hide)

in the movie, runaways who were native japanese kids were rounded up and harvested and given new memories, and in order to cover that fact up the corporation covered it up by claiming they were foreign refugees murdered by terrorists and putting them in foreigner-looking shells.

[close]

It doesn't matter though, people are going to bitch and moan about it no matter what. Because it's 2017. 

Yeah it was a pretty solid movie. as for the 'twist' I mean for getting away from accusations of whitewashing it was a pretty smart explanation. TBH what they should have done is to basically transplant everything to the states like the Departed did. and rework it round that.

I just saw a thread on Gaf saying that the 'whitewashing' sunk the movie at the BO. And that Hollywood should take heed of what places like gaf say.

Most of those bums don't actually go to the cinema.

 

The quoted article was from Variety. The film DID bomb.

[I'm a Puppy!]

Naoto < Nanako < Mara

Tiamat>Artemis> Mara

[Vertigo]

Saw GitS, it was OK. Mostly eyecandy  with a bit of decent action. On whitewashing:

spoiler (click to show/hide)

in the movie, runaways who were native japanese kids were rounded up and harvested and given new memories, and in order to cover that fact up the corporation covered it up by claiming they were foreign refugees murdered by terrorists and putting them in foreigner-looking shells.

[close]

It doesn't matter though, people are going to bitch and moan about it no matter what. Because it's 2017. 

Yeah it was a pretty solid movie. as for the 'twist' I mean for getting away from accusations of whitewashing it was a pretty smart explanation. TBH what they should have done is to basically transplant everything to the states like the Departed did. and rework it round that.

I just saw a thread on Gaf saying that the 'whitewashing' sunk the movie at the BO. And that Hollywood should take heed of what places like gaf say.

Most of those bums don't actually go to the cinema.

 

The quoted article was from Variety. The film DID bomb.

Oh I know it bombed my point moreseo was most of that thread was saying it was strictly because of whitewashing. Not one of the more sensible reasons which was it didn't have a big enough hook for most cinema goers. So they didn't come out.

[WanderingWind]

Well, GiTS bombing means that anime won't be the next comic books. If ScarJo in a bodysuit couldn't make the weebs come out in force, nothing will.

[Boredfrom]

Saw GitS, it was OK. Mostly eyecandy  with a bit of decent action. On whitewashing:

spoiler (click to show/hide)

in the movie, runaways who were native japanese kids were rounded up and harvested and given new memories, and in order to cover that fact up the corporation covered it up by claiming they were foreign refugees murdered by terrorists and putting them in foreigner-looking shells.

[close]

It doesn't matter though, people are going to bitch and moan about it no matter what. Because it's 2017. 

Yeah it was a pretty solid movie. as for the 'twist' I mean for getting away from accusations of whitewashing it was a pretty smart explanation. TBH what they should have done is to basically transplant everything to the states like the Departed did. and rework it round that.

I just saw a thread on Gaf saying that the 'whitewashing' sunk the movie at the BO. And that Hollywood should take heed of what places like gaf say.

Most of those bums don't actually go to the cinema.

 

The quoted article was from Variety. The film DID bomb.

Oh I know it bombed my point moreseo was most of that thread was saying it was strictly because of whitewashing. Not one of the more sensible reasons which was it didn't have a big enough hook for most cinema goers. So they didn't come out.

But there was huge negative buzz about it, a buzz that seems to invalidate the premise that ScarJo in a bodysuit would sell tickets alone, that was the point of the article that star power is not enough anymore to overcome bad buzz in general. The ending would not help matters as, even if is justified narrative wise, most people that care about the controversy will say "so why just not make her asian anyway?" People are not going to stop associating the controversy  with the film by the virtue of trying to make it a plot point.

[Great Rumbler]

To most people, it looked like a Robocop ripoff, the remake of which opened to similar numbers back in 2014.

[Boredfrom]

The people they are advertising to do NOT give a shit about the whitewashing thing. That is not why the movie bombed. It bombed because they people they're advertising it to (stay at home moms/retirees/people watching basketball in prime time) aren't interested, and the GITS fanbase were cunty about it from the start and are happy to see it bomb for any reason. There is no negative buzz about it to most people, because most people don't know what the fuck GITS is to begin with.

They're definitely not reading thinkpieces about it online.

You kind of contradicted yourself iin that post.

To most people, it looked like a Robocop ripoff, the remake of which opened to similar numbers back in 2014.

I would have confused the film with Aeon Flux or some franchise with main draw was "hot chick with guns" if I didnt know the name of the IP.

And those films are not good to begin with...

[Boredfrom]

The people they are advertising to do NOT give a shit about the whitewashing thing. That is not why the movie bombed. It bombed because they people they're advertising it to (stay at home moms/retirees/people watching basketball in prime time) aren't interested, and the GITS fanbase were cunty about it from the start and are happy to see it bomb for any reason. There is no negative buzz about it to most people, because most people don't know what the fuck GITS is to begin with.

They're definitely not reading thinkpieces about it online.

You kind of contradicted yourself iin that post.

To most people, it looked like a Robocop ripoff, the remake of which opened to similar numbers back in 2014.

I would have confused the film with Aeon Flux or some franchise with main draw was "hot chick with guns" if I didnt know the name of the IP.

And those films are not good to begin with...

No I didn't, because GITS isn't being marketed to GITS hardcores. And no one but GITS hardcores give a shit about the movie bombing or the whitewashing issue.

Well, no offense, but you seem to be pretty defensive about the film bombing and the whitewashing issue.

[Boredfrom]

I guess if understanding that the very small minority complaining about the whitewashing issue weren't going to see the movie anyway and aren't the reason it isn't doing well is "defending", sure. This is one of those "everyone is talking about it" that actually means "people are talking about it in a few places I visit online and therefore it's everyone in my world" type of things.

Im talking more about you reacting so aggresive about the film getting called out. People explained since the first time it appeared in this thread, why some people had issue with the film but you have prefer act like is non issue that nobody should care about... and you bring it out every damn time!

[Shuri]

Gaffers doxing that viral pda woman and posting links to her stuff 

[Jansen]

Oh man I hope the live action Akira set in neo Manhattan happens one day

[Boredfrom]

Because it IS a non issue for most people. Most people would have no idea what GITS is if you asked them, let alone that there's some big whitewashing controversy about it. The people that is is an issue to are people who didn't want to watch the movie anyway and it isn't marketed towards them, so explain to me how that is supposed to be the reason the movie isn't doing well.

Where did I say it was the only reason? I make it a point that the opinion piece was from Variety (so not exactly a nobody blogger rag) and that, in the eyes of every modern marketer, the fact that people online didnt stopped talking about the whitewashing was indeed negative buzz that didnt help.

Neither you or I have data to understand if it was the main reason or, as I also agreed, that was a combination of lot of issues that didnt hook neither the fans or the intended audience that supposedly would had go to see it because ScarJo.
 

[VomKriege]

Oh man I hope the live action Akira set in neo Manhattan happens one day

Nerds raged about it when it was barely at the design stage, it would be glorious 

[FatalT]

Did GAF really doxxx that clearly crazy lady screaming at the the couple kissing? Why would anyone think that's okay 

Gaffers doxing that viral pda woman and posting links to her stuff 

It's okay when it's not one of their own.

Almost like when Amir0x was arrested...

"He faces charges of possession of a controlled substance, and public drunkenness, among other chargers.

On May 5, at 4:45 p.m., police received a report of a man walking in the middle of the roadway on Route 196.

Police located the man, and found that he displayed signs of being under the influence. They also saw a hypodermic needle sticking out of his pocket, and marijuana and heroin packets inside."

[D3RANG3D]

the absolute worse thing in that gaming clothing thread is that horrendous link pointy hoody. esp. when it's going to be paired with walmart jeans and some sort of sketcher/padded skate shoe abomination 

musterbrand is even worse. just buy some normal ass clothes goddamn.

I don't like the ones with the cheesy witty phrases on them. Like "I scored with the princess" and "Video games ruined my life, good thing I have 2 extra lives!". Just give me something from 1cc shirts with some obscure long-defunct Japanese game company logo on it.

God I wish I could go back in time and ignore-list More_Badass.

But then how else will you hear about the latest indie roguelike which is a revolutionary postmodern deconstruction of the flight sim genre, featuring a revolutionary art style with a bunch of characters with one-pixel-thin arms and legs?

 

[WanderingWind]

There really is no mystery why it failed. It's a fucking anime adaptation. The vast, vast, vast majority of people would rather actually die than be caught watching anime. We've normalized that shit because we're a bunch of - at best - barely socialized dork fishes. But Joe from Nebraska ain't bringing his wife and 2.5 kids to see Ghost in the Shell, neither is Tim taking Rachel/Bobby if he ever hopes of getting to third knuckle during the second act.

[VomKriege]

The film has been barely out a couple days and it's already a commercial failure ? 
I mean yeah it's not lighting crowds on fire but don't be a gaffer brehs.

[I'm a Puppy!]

Let's not claim victory yet. There's a long, long way to go and many markets where the movie hasn't released yet.

[FStop7]

Batou looked stupid in the previews.  Sometimes you've gotta tweak a character's look for live action.

[WanderingWind]

The film has been barely out a couple days and it's already a commercial failure ? 
I mean yeah it's not lighting crowds on fire but don't be a gaffer brehs.

19 million on opening week is a certified bomb for a film with a budget of 110 million. It's not Waterworld, but it's a still a big ass L. It can recoup some loss with China numbers, but trying to cobble together all the different markets to make it not a bomb is what executives trying to save a job do, not normal people.

[D3RANG3D]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1357705

popcorn.jiff

[I'm a Puppy!]

The film has been barely out a couple days and it's already a commercial failure ? 
I mean yeah it's not lighting crowds on fire but don't be a gaffer brehs.

19 million on opening week is a certified bomb for a film with a budget of 110 million. It's not Waterworld, but it's a still a big ass L. It can recoup some loss with China numbers, but trying to cobble together all the different markets to make it not a bomb is what executives trying to save a job do, not normal people.

I guess it depends on the definition of "bomb" given the global market it's actually rather difficult for a movie to not at least break even. Overall it made $58 Mil worldwide. Still a poor showing but with more markets coming up and DVD/streaming. There's a fair chance it'll not lose money. I guess my definition of bomb is set by things like Jupiter Ascending and John Carter and Monster Trucks where the studio is losing tens, if not hundreds of millions. I don't see that happening here. Unless the bottom falls out in the new markets. I'm not an expert in japanese culture like others. So I don't know how it'll perform there.

I think in general, the US wont be a good market for live action Anime re-imaginings. Most of America doesn't know Anime or like it. Those that do will never be happy with what is produced. I mean you can take Japanese guy put him in a blonde wig and call him Edward and they're all like "Brilliant!" Even if the Major was Japanese no Anime fans would've liked this movie. Some of the allure of anime in america is that it's distant and not familiar, so there's no chance for contempt to grow. Stuff made here? We know how the sausage is made, and all the allure is gone.

[benjipwns]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1357705

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[Rahxephon91]

The movie bombed because it was a shitty product. It being anime, a ScarJo movie, a white washing quagmire, whatever had nothing to do with it.

It was a movie with nothing exciting to it. No really passion in its story, characters, or action. A super by the numbers movie that did'nt look at all exciting.

Which is terrible, because clearly the production design and art direction people gave a shit. It did'nt lead to any cool and sexy action scenes you could show in a trailer. Any fun characters that people could latch unto despite an entire police unit playing a big role in the franchisee. Nor did it have a story that had any confidence or talent to be thematically interesting or well done. Or even a little thought provoking.

It was a bad movie. It was a poorly produced movie. Thats why it failed and no reason other.

[VomKriege]

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=233257890

 

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=233258190

 
CSI : Minor rebates edition

[counterhit]

pigeon really likes to bring up his daughter, think he does it like every thread I've seen.

Post count lists reveal a very common pattern: 1-2 punching bags and 6-10 posters from the same pool of a 50 or so posters (divided into overlapping categories such as yass queens, Lime-ites, woke comic book nerds). GAF's infamous "hivemind" is probably somewhere like 5% of the user base, whom make >50% of posts in these unsalvageable threads.

[WanderingWind]

The movie bombed because it was a shitty product. It being anime, a ScarJo movie, a white washing quagmire, whatever had nothing to do with it.

Even if you think it's an overstated problem, you're living in a bubble if you think the anime aspect had nothing to do with it. It most certainly did. Lucy was a terrible sci-fi movie in which ScarJo jumped into a machine. It made more than 40 million in its opening weekend and it sucked worse than perhaps any sci-fi flick this side of whatever Mila Kunis is doing this month. Crappy products make bank all the time.

[Boredfrom]

Although you could argue Lucy also killed any excitement for ScarJo in an action film with all is going for is visuals. No one really wants a Lucy sequel anytime soon.

[thisismyusername]

The film has been barely out a couple days and it's already a commercial failure ? 
I mean yeah it's not lighting crowds on fire but don't be a gaffer brehs.

It massively underperformed Paramount's underperformance predictions. It's a bomb, breh.

I wanted it to be successful on the basis of getting more Cyberpunk alone. But that ain't happening.

[Rahxephon91]

The movie bombed because it was a shitty product. It being anime, a ScarJo movie, a white washing quagmire, whatever had nothing to do with it.

Even if you think it's an overstated problem, you're living in a bubble if you think the anime aspect had nothing to do with it. It most certainly did. Lucy was a terrible sci-fi movie in which ScarJo jumped into a machine. It made more than 40 million in its opening weekend and it sucked worse than perhaps any sci-fi flick this side of whatever Mila Kunis is doing this month. Crappy products make bank all the time.

No I don't because they really did'nt heavily push or market the anime. It's not like any tv ad was like "based on the materpeice Japanese animation". It was pushed as a Scar Jo vehicle to the mainstream public. Videos with Oshi and whatnot are youtube fodder that people like you and me who are already aware of the anime only watch.

You're average person probably did'nt know or care that it was based on anime.

Crappy products do make bank, but not ones that are crappily marketed. This movie never had anything exciting pushed about it beyond the fact that Scar Jo is in it.

I don't actually think anime carries some stink that you're average person gives a shit about. Considering most anime can be swapped with you're average YA novel and no one would bat an eye.

[WanderingWind]

The average person has had Google for some time now, Rahx.

[Rahxephon91]

The average person has had Google for some time now, Rahx.

And yet Gaffers ask the dumbest questions that could be solved with google.

Reddit is ablaze with questions google can solve.

You're average Target customer can't even figure out simple things that google could do for them. "whats this Smart tv thing mean" What is 4k?. Trust me these questions are asked 10 times a day.

Youtube has guides for everything, yet I'd argue people are just as lazy as they ever were.

No one cares that it is anime. They probably googled Ghost in the Shell. Saw the imdb link or meta crtitic. You really think millions of people were interested and then googled it only to go "shit it's based on anime, pass".

No, they did'nt care in the first place, because the movie had no appeal.

Why did'n they google Game of Thrones and go "eww it's based on a Fantasy novel'".

You mention Lucy as some counter point. I've never seen Lucy, but I still remember what it was about. It had a hook, an easy to understand premise. I remember certain scenes they showed in trailers that yes looked exciting. It was a movie you're average dude could wrap his head around. Ghost in the Shell's trailers was just a random assortment of future shit.