VOAT Containment Megathread of Trash People for Trash People

[Nola]

Yeah it's kinda hard to defend Maher on that one.

I don't think he meant any harm or anything like that. Or is at his core a racist. So I always have a hard time getting as worked up as GAF does when something like this or someone starts a Louis CK thread.

I know I am saying this as a white person but its sort of like, "yeah, dude should probably think twice about that and not do it anymore - reflect a bit and shit - but honestly: Bill Maher saying the N word once in his career during a bad joke vs....... the hundreds of other issues much more consequential that stem from systemic racism still prevalent in America." So do we really need to start a Change.org petition and twitter storm to demand Bill Maher never appear in public life again?

[seagrams hotsauce]

remember when Bill Maher was engaged to Superhead? That was weird

[etiolate]

Care about important shit and if you can't decipher what that is then shut the fuck up.

[clothedmacuser]

New rule: If you give a fuck about anything Bill Maher has to say, you're probably a house fakkit.

But we need him to combat Ann Coulter and how relevant she is in 2017

[daemon]

http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=238947522&postcount=372

Rins is my favorite troll

[clothedmacuser]

Do it, El Papi!

[tuna_love]

The best way to minimize your carbon footprint is to kill yourself

im in

[clothedmacuser]

Trokil is a Russian and other fake-ass news apologist troll.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=239015115&postcount=836


The red scare continues. 


Also, how is what Bill Maher said a "nicca" joke?  Usually a joke like that makes fun of how lazy/dumb/stupid/rapists/ungodly/smelly/animalistic/ the ethnic group in question is.  Is George Carlin making a N----- joke when he talks about words?  According to gaf comic experts, yes.

[VomKriege]

Trokil is a Russian and other fake-ass news apologist troll.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=239015115&postcount=836


The red scare continues. 

I'm surprised he caught so many bites in this thread. Or lasted as long as he has on this forum.

Subtle MODS, HALP here.

Bill Maher is an attention whore. Nothing more, nothing less. That's his whole shtick.
Try to be Bill Hicks, Richard Pryor, or George Carlin, but he lacks in character and charisma.

Same as Trump, really.

I only really looked Maher up after he decided it was a good idea to have that trashbag Milo on his show, and pretty much played along with him like they were good buddies.
Welp, after this, I wouldn't be surprised if it came out that he WAS friends with Milo and a bunch of others. What a scumbag.

[Narag]

Trokil is a Russian and other fake-ass news apologist troll.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=239015115&postcount=836


The red scare continues. 

I'm surprised he caught so many bites in this thread. Or lasted as long as he has on this forum.

Subtle MODS, HALP here.

Bill Maher is an attention whore. Nothing more, nothing less. That's his whole shtick.
Try to be Bill Hicks, Richard Pryor, or George Carlin, but he lacks in character and charisma.

Same as Trump, really.

I only really looked Maher up after he decided it was a good idea to have that trashbag Milo on his show, and pretty much played along with him like they were good buddies.
Welp, after this, I wouldn't be surprised if it came out that he WAS friends with Milo and a bunch of others. What a scumbag.

I'm still mad about his Ghost in the Shell shilling!

[VomKriege]

I think we should think about regime change in Turkey.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=239001237&postcount=14649

EZ PZ !

With an ironic echo a few dozens posts later...

white liberals thinking they have free reign to say or do anything just because they fight "the good fight" has really shown its ass in the past year.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=239004132&postcount=14662

okay, maybe we should convince people like Elon Musk to start businesses in the southern states?

I mean, Elon Musk is not our ally, but even if we assume that he is and he'll put industry where the Democratic party wants him to in order to win elections, I'm pretty sure the better investments would be in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin than states won by Republicans by 18 points.

I feel like there is greater payoff in flipping the south. If we flip the south we don't just beat the GOP. We make serious dent against white supremacy's hold on America.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=238991418&postcount=14599

Add industry -> instant electoral win !

[Nola]

I don't think he hates black people or anything. But he really had no excuse to say the word there.

And bringing up bigger issues when people point out that he did a wrong thing is never a good goal post move. All it does is to try to shut down any suggestion that some small behavior isn't a wise move.

EDIT: As far as Louis CK goes, his bits on the word usually are about the word itself. Maher on the other hand could have easily made the same joke without the word.

It wasn't meant as goal post moving, it was just about putting into context the situation.

On the one hand you have a racially sympathetic liberal that in a long tenured career fucked up this one time, on the other hand you have hundreds of readily available issues that are actually consequential to the health of minorities in American society and thats continued presence carries an enormous amount of ongoing harm.

It's stepping back and putting things into a bit of perspective. But mostly just saying that fuck ups like that should rightfully earn ridicule, but every fuck up doesn't need to come with a life sentence.

And I say this as someone that can't stand Bill Maher and think he is a try hard pompous douche trying desperately to masquerade as some sort of relevant liberal intellectual.....Probably like how this post comes off.

[VomKriege]

"The problem of the left eating its own."

Fake news, I've judged he is not a true progressive anyway. Move along, nothing to see here.



http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=239017134

[VomKriege]

The best way to minimize your carbon footprint is to kill yourself

Wonderful post. I teared up for real. :/

[VomKriege]

Doing work and busting your ass in life is like grinding in MMOs. It's even more bizarre given that unlike games, there are no rules outside of physics that prevent the way you can play this game.

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=239020947

[counterhit]

Evergreen State College thread is pretty funny because of how some posters are trying to find an angle to defend the students and mostly failing.

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=239022066

not a huge loss.. have fun in the garbage bin of history Bill, along with Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, "Bernie Bros" and other disgusting bigoted filth.

bye!

doesn't seem likely tbh.

[Raist]

Nintards I swear.

During my daily commute here in NYC the last 234 years, it's been pretty rare to see someone playing a handheld system on the subway. Maybe two times a year. To be honest, I haven't seen any handheld the last year or 2, though, as everyone just plays games on their phone.

That said, last night, there was a girl playing Zelda on her Switch. I gave her a high five and we discussed all our favorite shrines, and we readily agreed that having weapons break after 1 hit was totally the right way to go, and we hoped every other game incorporated that mechanic going forward.

Seriously though, I thought the chance of seeing a Switch on the subway was near 0. The weird thing (to me) was that she just put it into her backpack as she left the train. I'd want a carrying case for that badboy.

 

[VomKriege]

Saw another Vita player on the train, we high fived, discussed our favorite chans and agreed age of consent laws are bullshit.

Literally shaking right now :

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=239021307

I got my wife to read it but she couldn't really understand it at all.

[VomKriege]

Why would she even do this? Like we care what this man has to say, I sure don't

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=239022843

Yeah, who cares about what the president of an influential country has to say.

[Let's Cyber]

I think we should think about regime change in Turkey.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=239001237&postcount=14649

EZ PZ

PoliGAF has the power to topple Erdoğan by themselves.

 

Next week-

I think we should think about building a time machine to assassinate Hitler in 1938.

[Raist]

Next week-

I think we should think about building a time machine to assassinate Hitler in 1938.

Sure about that?

[VomKriege]

Next week-

I think we should think about building a time machine to assassinate Hitler in 1938.

Sure about that?

Come on now, when has an heavily US/Western backed regime change ever backfired ?

EDIT : Christ, other people than our beloved RPGCrazied are really arguing that there's no real interest & substance in interviewing the President of the Russian federation   

Why give a voice to this man on US airwaves? In the current climate, he is not our friend. It only serves to stir some shit up or generate more lies on the field.

It's a ratings grab and it would be disingenuous to describe it as anything else.

Because he is the leader of Russia whom we have diplomatic relations with? This take our ball and go home shit needs to stop. Not everyone is Milo Yiannopolous.

Putin is WORSE than Milo by a country mile. Are you fucking kidding with this?

If only we could superban him from Twitter, like Milo, to cure all of world's problems in one fell swoop !

We're gonna need a bigger bubble.

[thisismyusername]

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=239021307

I got my wife to read it but she couldn't really understand it at all.

To be fair: That argument was dumb.

"I don't like Overwatch."
"lol, u mad cuz bad."
"No I'm not, I just don't like it."
"lol mad cuz bad."
"...Okay, you're right. Whatever. See ya."
"lol mad cuz bad!"

Both of them are being 12 year olds. And if he doesn't want to be the one doting on about his kid, maybe he should cut that friend out of his life if such a minor thing makes him "shake with confusion."

[nudemacusers]

yeah they both sound like goobers.

[etiolate]

Man the responses in that Weinstein Left eats its Own thread. akira some top level douche heel.

"I also don't think the students idea about excluding white students for a day was in any way out of line frankly. "

"To be perfectly honest I don't see anything wrong with the what was originally proposed as an interesting experiment"

Pro Segregation GAF

[railGUN]

I love how Tyler makes this grandiose post, pledging to blah blah blah, the topic barely makes a splash, sits on page 3/4/5 a few hours later, and gets the odd bump. There is barely any talk of action, mostly just "in" and "let's do this".

Then, people question the carbon footprint of NeoGAF and its servers, and poof, like that, he's gone. Literally, doesn't reply to any of the bullshit he's spewing. Makes OP, then tucks tail and runs.

Like, how stupid do you have to be to not see through his bullshit at this point? Much like his "pledge" to fix the ads, his "pledge" to improve site security and his "pledge" to upgrade the entire site (Q1ish).

What a fucking wanker.

[etiolate]

re Bill Maher: Just another one of his playingtoaudience jokes.

However, I will now use Bill Maher instead of the term itself, to which I would add that Ninja Scooter is the Bill Maher of GAF.

[Let's Cyber]

Ninja Scooter is one of the best posters left on GAF tbh

[etiolate]

Nah, he's a shitter, and he watches communities he belonged to get rekt by moderation and laps it up to score points with the mods. He values being on that forum more than anything.


edit: I guess being one of the best posters left on GAF isn't such a high bar though. There's Snowman Prophet of Doom and what else?

[Phoenix Dark]

Funny, not long ago GAF was regularly defending the outrageous antics we see on college campuses. #Insularity brehs. Just dig deeper and deeper until everyone outside of your narrow group is problematic and needs to be silenced.

And just to be clear: I have no problem with protesting and preventing literal Nazis from speaking on campuses.

[Dennis]

Funny, not long ago GAF was regularly defending the outrageous antics we see on college campuses. #Insularity brehs. Just dig deeper and deeper until everyone outside of your narrow group is problematic and needs to be silenced.

And just to be clear: I have no problem with protesting and preventing literal Nazis from speaking on campuses.

?

GAF is still defending the outrageous antics we see on college campuses.

[Phoenix Dark]

Lots of people in that thread are criticizing the students, or at least were on the first couple pages I skimmed. In the past it was basically a collection of the usual suspects defending insanity.

[Averon]

Apparently, the professor speaking out to defend himself is a worst offense than the yelling, screaming, demands of firings from the students. If bringing a situation to light in an accurate manner makes the students look bad, then maybe the problems are from the students, not the professor. What do they expect the professor to do? Just shut up and take the abuse? Even the school sided against him here from what I read.

[etiolate]

Chumley introduced a doublethink into that thread, probably stemming from a student paper argument (who are the nuts doing the protesting) of this: They weren't telling white people to leave, they we just swapping venues!

I love it, because it is true that you can claim there was a venue swap, but the only reason there was a venue swap was because they told the white students not to come to class so "their" classes had to swapped, too. (And then attend diversity lessons off campus, which included such topics as "The Problem With Asians.")

[etiolate]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=239047632&postcount=268

Is this the explanation for bishop's vanishing?

[Averon]

This is all very reminiscent of what happened to off-topic for a couple months post-election. Of course, that madness turned out to be directly induced through sabotage by a now-former admin secretly banning *hundreds* of members totally outside of any justifiable grounds (not that any attempt at justification was made to begin with, being undisclosed and undocumented bans) in some 85-90% of each of those bans that were subsequently investigated after we became aware of the incident.

Yep. That sounds like Bish. He was an admin before his ouster. Seems like Trump getting elected completely broke him. Though it is funny seeing 'Lore complain about unjustifiable bans. His mods ban people on a petty whim all the time. I guess Bish went too far on the number of bans he did and doing it behind 'Lore's back.

[Dennis]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=239047632&postcount=268

This is all very reminiscent of what happened to off-topic for a couple months post-election. Of course, that madness turned out to be directly induced through sabotage by a now-former admin secretly banning *hundreds* of members totally outside of any justifiable grounds (not that any attempt at justification was made to begin with, being undisclosed and undocumented bans) in some 85-90% of each of those bans that were subsequently investigated after we became aware of the incident.

What admin/mod is EviLore talking about?

How many unwarranted bans have moderators issued for personal animosity/different political views over the years?

J'accuse…!

This is a modern day Dreyfus Dennis Affair.

[nudemacusers]

Lol which one do you think 

[Dennis]

I also feel that if EviLore is truly serious about everything in that post he may need to take a closer look at the behavior of other moderators in the Off-Topic section.

There has been a ton of ridiculously unfair bans in the last few years. Certain moderator(s) have very deliberately worked hard to get rid of the old time posters who wouldn't kiss his (their) ass.

[Averon]

Don't count on 'Lore doing anything. Every few months he makes posts like that exposing how GAF needs to change and go in a new direction. But he does nothing about it. The last time he made a post like that was during election night when GAF was in meltdown mode due to Trump winning. Has anything changed since then? Nope.

[nudemacusers]

dennis maybe your perm will be revoked 

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[clothedmacuser]

I was one of Bish's victims.  Where is my justice?  What happens to me?

[seagrams hotsauce]

A videogame forum is such a weird and flimsy place to make a stand against climate change. Gaming itself is completely superfluous and is a constant source of pollution, from manufacturing to actual use. Hell, Nintendo, which for a long time was synonymous with videogames, has a decades-long history of completely not giving a shit about their impact on the environment.

[Purple Filth]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=239047632&postcount=268

Is this the explanation for bishop's vanishing?

Seems like it.

[railGUN]

Reads EviLore's dissertation.

*blinks*

 

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[railGUN]

Dare I ask if it's obvious which mod this was?

 

[zepblackstar]

This is all very reminiscent of what happened to off-topic for a couple months post-election. Of course, that madness turned out to be directly induced through sabotage by a now-former admin secretly banning *hundreds* of members totally outside of any justifiable grounds (not that any attempt at justification was made to begin with, being undisclosed and undocumented bans) in some 85-90% of each of those bans that were subsequently investigated after we became aware of the incident.

how do you do that? the software itself should tell anyone with mod or admin powers who is being ban at any given time...

[Dennis]

Off-Topic suddenly became unrecognizable to me some 15 or 16 years after we set this side of the forum up. The place kinda turned into what this Evergreen outcome sounds like: with everyone who tried to contribute to civil discourse systematically thrown down the well

Mother of God, EviLore! This is exactly what we have been saying for ages!

Off-Topic has resembled an out-of-control intolerant college campus for years. Dissent not allowed!

Instead dissenting voices just get permanently banned.

[Phoenix Dark]

Bish was operating the GAFstapo huh 

[Dennis]

The maddening thing is that EviLore and I are probably closer to agreeing about how Off-Topic should ideally function than EviLore is with the moderators he have running the place.

[WanderingWind]

If Lore was serious, he'd remove Besada, who demonstrably has engaged in mod practices like that, and actually do something about the moderation there. But, as mentioned, he posts something like this every so often, yet, the shitty behavior of the posters continues to be tacitly endorsed.

[railGUN]

It's almost like he requires equal parts of validation from, and giving mother-like admonition to his Nintendo loving, mouth-breathing, basement dwelling children.

[VomKriege]

Opération : Scapegoat successful.
Evilore basically admitting he went in months without checking off topic (despite working 120h per week on fixing the ads  ). Things have not improved that much either since then.

Not a fan of bish, and I can believe it, but it's pretty shitty to throw him under the bus like that. Months after demotion. And affecting not to name him when it's clear as day who he targets.

[railGUN]

The fact that Bish didn't, and hasn't spilled the beans on that place makes me think mods are required to sign an NDA or CA before becoming mods. I wouldn't put it past Tyler, either, dude is so fucking thin skinned and petty.

[Let's Cyber]

Lore created the filtration system via the mods he promotes so I don't see how he can be upset with the result. He also hates criticism and drops the hammer on anyone that mentions that the emperor might in fact be naked.

Can you imagine if anyone actually critiqued his Paris Agreement post as being a touch egotistical? He meets anything that isn't total admiration with a fucking flamethrower and then is surprised when the critical thinking members disappear. You could replace 80% of the off-topic posters with bots that only post "Fuck Trump" and the board would mostly be the same.

[railGUN]

You could replace 80% of the off-topic posters with bots that only post "Fuck Trump" and the board would mostly be the same ten times more palatable.

FTFY

[clothedmacuser]

The Victims of Bish (VIB) will not remain silent.  The timid despot has been shown to the whole world for what he is and his crimes will be judged.  Those of us who were touched by his cruelty demand justice.  We might not be able to reclaim our lost innocence but we can at least try, together, in solidarity.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Evilore reminds me so much of Lowtax (the Something Awful site owner) where they enlist shitty moderators and administrators who unsurprisingly act like pieces of shit and then pretend to be heroes when they take away their mod or admin powers once the situation becomes untenable.

Unsurprisingly both sites are in irreversible decline and are totally unwilling to do anything about it.

[nudemacusers]

This is all very reminiscent of what happened to off-topic for a couple months post-election. Of course, that madness turned out to be directly induced through sabotage by a now-former admin secretly banning *hundreds* of members totally outside of any justifiable grounds (not that any attempt at justification was made to begin with, being undisclosed and undocumented bans) in some 85-90% of each of those bans that were subsequently investigated after we became aware of the incident.

how do you do that? the software itself should tell anyone with mod or admin powers who is being ban at any given time...

i think bans were generally coordinated on irc/mod forum; so that's probably part of the process that was skipped.

[etiolate]

This fool Dyle posts this

Because it comes down to more than just what he said, but when and how he said it. If you were in a full theater and a cigarette lit a trash can on fire, would shout FIRE! knowing it would incite a panic or find an usher who could follow their training and extinguish it safely? The way Weinstein sent this email, even though it was correct and justified, was extremely careless and indicated a lack of awareness of how tense the campus was. By sending this email to all staff, including hundreds of students he could not have possibly chosen a worse method of delivery. If he had written an op-ed in the school newspaper, the editors likely would have advised against publishing it, or at least if it were a Facebook post, not everyone would have seen it at once. His decision to publish this letter, which was totally justified, was foolish at best, negligent at worst and demonstrates a lack of sympathy for the students who had been organizing and protesting before this letter came out.

The responds to Tyler's manifesto like this

I will never be able to quote this enough, thank you for putting into words what I've struggled to express. I'm always impressed by how well written your posts are

 

These motherfuckers got no shame