Nintendo Switch Thread

[Tasty]

I actually prefer the Joy-Con's "d-pad" to the Pro Controllers. Holy hell is that bad. Been meaning to make a thread on it.

[agrajag]

god damn the joycons suck for platforming. No d-pad and the thumb stick is so imprecise. 

Just started to play Hollow Knight and I'm actually fine with the "button d-pad".

Still sucks that a company that had one of the best d-pads ever (snes) has such a low focus on d-pads on their main controllers since the N64.

I can't play with that d-pad at all. Maybe I just suck, but it's so hard using it, I feel like I have to lift my thumb to press the d pad to go in a different direction, instead of sliding my thumb like I would with a normal d-pad. So I've been playing HK with the thumbstick and the sections where you have to bounce off mushrooms are killing me. You have to push down and slash to bounce off them, and sometimes I push down and I'm actually pushing the thumb stick slightly to the side so it doesn't register and I end up dying. 

I actually prefer the Joy-Con's "d-pad" to the Pro Controllers. Holy hell is that bad. Been meaning to make a thread on it.

What's wrong with it? From images, it looks like a normal NES-style d-pad.

[kingv]

The first version had some kind of problem with registering the wrong inputs. I bought one somewhat recently and haven’t noticed any problems, I read there was a running change that started with the Xenoblade  pro controllers

[Tasty]

What's wrong with it? From images, it looks like a normal NES-style d-pad.

It certainly does look like a normal Nintendo d-pad! However, its diagonal inputs are appalling and incredibly unusable for a first-party controller. I didn't want to mention it before I beat the game, but it actually forced me to switch to the Joy-Con midway through my Mutant Mudds Super Collection breakthrough. Precision 2D platformers just cannot be played with the original "batch" or whatever.

I was a sucker though and bought four Pro Controllers before Nintendo started fixing them.

[Tasty]

https://kotaku.com/switch-is-a-port-machine-and-i-love-it-1827209732

Apparently Limbo, Inside, Crash Trilogy, and Wolfenstein II are all hitting today/tomorrow.

This has been a good month for Switch.

I'm like, thiiiiiiis close to finally getting South Park and Doom.

[agrajag]

backlog is growing

[Great Rumbler]

https://kotaku.com/switch-is-a-port-machine-and-i-love-it-1827209732

Apparently Limbo, Inside, Crash Trilogy, and Wolfenstein II are all hitting today/tomorrow.

This has been a good month for Switch.

I'm like, thiiiiiiis close to finally getting South Park and Doom.

There's also Anime: Gate of Memories and it's expansion out tomorrow.

[Cerveza mas fina]

After hating for a long time Im playing tons of Fortnite now, what a difference it makes to have normal voice chat.

Your move Nintendo.

[Fifstar]

I can't play with that d-pad at all. Maybe I just suck, but it's so hard using it, I feel like I have to lift my thumb to press the d pad to go in a different direction, instead of sliding my thumb like I would with a normal d-pad. So I've been playing HK with the thumbstick and the sections where you have to bounce off mushrooms are killing me. You have to push down and slash to bounce off them, and sometimes I push down and I'm actually pushing the thumb stick slightly to the side so it doesn't register and I end up dying. 

Well, I'm not that far into the game, just beat Hornet and had some problems there with the downward slash. Maybe i will have bigger problems in the more taxing platforming sections. Still so far i have been positivly surprised with the joycon d-pad (hadn't used it before).

I beat Celeste with the joycons and often had problems with the diagonal dash. I feel the joycon d-pad wouldn't have worked there either but if a game mainly uses the main directions I feel it's okay.

Shame about the pro controller though, has the problem really been fixed? The opinions on era differ on that matter..

[Tasty]

Like everything with Nintendo: no one knows for sure.

[agrajag]

the joycon d-pad is placed too low, it's not comfortable for me even if I liked kt 

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I decided to give Tropical Freeze another try and have had a better time with it.  I'm clearing the special levels on world 6 currently.  I decided to just play though all the levels (including the K levels) and not bother with collecting everything and be done with it.  I still consider it a B/B+ level platformer though.

I've been buying a few Switch games recently: Mario Tennis, Splatoon 2, Crash trilogy, and Ys.  Nowhere near enough time to go to through all these games.  I've heard mixed things about Mario Tennis but I'll probably try that game next.

[agrajag]

I decided to give Tropical Freeze another try and have had a better time with it.  I'm clearing the special levels on world 6 currently.  I decided to just play though all the levels (including the K levels) and not bother with collecting everything and be done with it.  I still consider it a B/B+ level platformer though.

I've been buying a few Switch games recently: Mario Tennis, Splatoon 2, Crash trilogy, and Ys.  Nowhere near enough time to go to through all these games.  I've heard mixed things about Mario Tennis but I'll probably try that game next.

yeah, I didn't bother with the puzzle pieces at all. If I find some, cool, if not, whatever. Getting all the Kong letters and beating all the hidden levels unlocks an extra world that's really challenging.

[bork]

I've heard mixed things about Mario Tennis but I'll probably try that game next.

There's issues with the online play and some bad character balance problems currently.  The latter I guess you can avoid if you do matches without any trick or gimmick shots, but I dunno how many people are playing that way.

I was looking forward to this game, then went online and just had some awful, lag-filled matches and shelved it.   

[Corporal]

Eh, Tennis is kinda meh.
Adventure mode is a pretty huge disappontment for me since there's basically no RPG elements involved besides leveling up, which grants you ever so slightly better mostly meaningless stats, Besides that, all the remaining customisation is getting more rackets which just increases your survivability against the super power smash whatever shots that ding your racket if you fuck up the timing.
Can't even choose your own character, it's Mario, you're Mario and you're gonna like it. Wildly fluctuating difficulty, but overall too easy. Crazy that endbosses are usually more on the easy side of things and usually lowly gimmick fights, and then you crash and burn against a random Koopa or whatever.

It's kinda completely forgettable since the "adventure" is just going where you're told and maybe once in a while optionally doing some challenges for better rackets. Could've done this with a simple menu, without the overwold map.

And some of the challenges really get long in the tooth. Example: Return 300 balls (after 10, you get a bonus, so it's actually less, but still, that's fucking dire).

Plus, sloooow vapid conversation "cutscenes" before and after every level, regardless of whether you have succeeded or failed. At least you can skip them after the first time by pressing +. Still super annoying since they add stress and punishment to failure and nothing at all to success.

Biggest gripe for me is the lack in control customisability. I'd love to be able to tweak the bumper and X button actions. 

Online for me is all about getting owned miserably. There's kinda precious little to do. It works, sometimes, often, well randomly unless it lags you out because Switch Wifi is terribad - but after a while I kinda get tired of it either way. Especially since there's still a serious balance issue between the various characters. Or maybe I just suck. All I know is that I loathe playing against the ChainChomp. There's a bunch of characters that feel kinda overpowered, others conversely underpowered.


Also not sure about the super generous rescue lunge that lets you happily flip across the entire court at the (double)press of a  button or tilt of a stick. Makes positioning kiiiiiinda pointless. Well not really... but it really drags out matches IMHO.

[bork]

There are some overpowered, possibly broken characters.  I know Waluigi is one of them.

[Human Snorenado]

There are some overpowered, possibly broken characters.  I know Waluigi is one of them.

The GOAT



He's always been overpowered tho, lanky as fuck with tenacious net defense. If Smash Bros wanted to be taken seriously as a real Nintendo franchise they'd include him, but it's obvious from his exclusion that it will forever remain a shit c tier franchise that only the most nin-thingy among us espouse.

[Tasty]

There are some overpowered, possibly broken characters.  I know Waluigi is one of them.

The GOAT



He's always been overpowered tho, lanky as fuck with tenacious net defense. If Smash Bros wanted to be taken seriously as a real Nintendo franchise they'd include him, but it's obvious from his exclusion that it will forever remain a shit c tier franchise that only the most nin-thingy among us espouse.

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https://www.usgamer.net/articles/sakurai-will-be-aware-of-groundswell-of-support-for-waluigi-in-smash-bros-ultimate-reggie-fils-aime-say

You were saying?

[Human Snorenado]

Oh good, he's going to "know"

 

[Tasty]

Like you'd buy it even if he was playable.

You're the Nintendo version of Assimilate, breh.

[kingv]

I started playing The Sexy Brutale on Switch.

If anyone is curious it seems like the patches have basically fixed the performance... (ornit was never that bad to begin with).

You can tell it’s kind of a mess technically, but I’ve played over half of it and never found it gamebreaking or particularly bothersome on handheld, anyway.

The only part that really is bewildering is the loading screens. It basically loads one complete “mission” at a time, so they only happen when you are traversing the mansion to go from one place to another, but they are in weird spots and the game doesn’t seem to preload any assets until you actually try to open a door that leads into an “unloaded” area.

Edit: there are a coupled rooms near the end where the frame rate is pretty bad... but it’s not unplayable. Not exactly a twitch game.... and it’s still probably better than blight town.

[Human Snorenado]

Like you'd buy it even if he was playable.

You're the Nintendo version of Assimilate, breh.

I mean,

1) clearly not cause I have taste
2) not an apt comparison as I actually have owned and currently own plenty of Nintendo games and hardware, so I'm speaking from a place of actual direct experience on what I'm critiquing. You're just rustled cause we have diametrically opposing tastes in Nintendo (me: is there good gameplay, you: OMG IS IT KAWAII???)

[Tasty]

You're just rustled cause we have diametrically opposing tastes in Nintendo (me: is there good gameplay, you: OMG IS IT KAWAII???)

This coming from a Fire Emblem stan?

Your preferred series has Nowi, bitch. Stay in your lane.

[Human Snorenado]

Honey, I know you live in the constant world of now but there have been lots of Fire Emblem games before the waifu epidemic and I've played almost all of em. The core gameplay (there's that word again!) has remained the same and that means something, which again, not surprised that you're fixating on presentation above all else...

[Corporal]

Having just installed Grandia 2 off gog to my PC, I kinda wish we'd get a Grandia complete DX HD for switch. It's just not the same on PC, even with a controller.

There are some overpowered, possibly broken characters.  I know Waluigi is one of them.

Yeah, that one can go fuck itself as well. 

I do have to wonder how the online mode got released that way. Shit's obvious even with the slightest bit of QA. 

[demi]

the longest wait. give me octopath traveler please. fuck

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Just got 100% on Tropical Freeze.  World 7 sucked but wasn’t as bad as Bopopolis in my opinion.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I decided to play the Crash trilogy and man, going from Tropical Freeze straight to Crash Bandicoot is like going from a nice ribeye to a reheated McDonald's cheeseburger.  It blew me away just how clunky the games played.  Going to have to put that one back and come to it at a later time.

[Corporal]

Crash never really appealed to me. Granted, I only ever played some demo levels from one of the Crash games on a magazine demo disk (remember those? Siiiiigh). No interest in ever revisiting that game. I'm subconsciously repulsed by the mascot nature of it, I think.

Oh well.


More Paladins. That "new" event is eroding my nerves. First, you get randomly assigned a character, look at a loading screen, then you watch an unskippable cutscene. Then you climb a tower for ten minutes (or so it feels like), then there's a 30-stock limited TDM, and then there's another cutscene. Plus a loading screen, as usual. It's kinda like pulling teeth, plus a TDM session that's over way too quickly because people have no clue how to play their characters and get slaughtered by the supernerds and luckers that do.

It would be half as aggravating if you could skip the cutscenes. Half, once more, if the platforming up the tower wasn't kinda assy. Especially if there are a bunch of bulky characters on both teams - they obstruct your vision and generally annoy you (no collision checks between characters so you phase through them and it's kinda unnerving).

And you're expected to play that thing a whole bunch of times to gather shards to unlock chests. Completely voluntary, of course, but still annoying. I'll do it because I'm a little bitch, but allow me to complain all the while. 

[team filler]

[paprikastaude]

I decided to play the Crash trilogy and man, going from Tropical Freeze straight to Crash Bandicoot is like going from a nice ribeye to a reheated McDonald's cheeseburger.  It blew me away just how clunky the games played.  Going to have to put that one back and come to it at a later time.

In case you might not already know, only the third game was designed for analogue sticks. Much of the level design is quite improved and way easier to handle in the first two by using a D-Pad (though maybe not with those hybrid button things on the Switch sticks )

[Nintex]

Is this peak GAMEXPLAIN?

Explaining how to play fucking Mario Kart 8 with a cardboard handlebar?

[Tasty]

Fuck GameXplain.

[Brehvolution]

[bork]

[Fifstar]

Anybody else looking forward to Pool Panic?





+ Pool is relaxing

+ playing on switch is relaxing

+ funny artstyle

+ gameplay seems mixed up with goof stuff so it's not gonna be the same ever time like in classic pool vidya games

+ will be great for pick up and play with 100 levels

[agrajag]

yeah that looks cool

[Great Rumbler]

Playing Ys 8 right now while I wait for Octopath. Constantly scaling resolution [on handheld mode at least] is uggo, but it otherwise runs okay.

[Svejk]

Mothafuckin' Warframe is coming to switch! 
Not sure how it's gonna handle such a robust game,  but still pretty cool.  I've been balls deep in Warframe the past few weeks, so this news almost makes me want a switch.  Lol

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...almost

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[kingv]

I think it’s just that switch can basically run almost anything as long as you make the grafx ugly enough.

[agrajag]

Mothafuckin' Warframe is coming to switch! 
Not sure how it's gonna handle such a robust game,  but still pretty cool.  I've been balls deep in Warframe the past few weeks, so this news almost makes me want a switch.  Lol

spoiler (click to show/hide)

...almost

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but Jansen said it's a garbo game

[Nintex]

Playing Wolfie 2 on Switch to review after having played it on PC.

I must say I'm quite surprised how well it is holding up docked. It gets very blurry at times but frame rate remains solid as does the game play.
Although Stealth becomes very challenging at this resolution so It's mostly guns blazing which kinda fits this game better I guess.

Only worth it on Switch if you have no other way to play it though.

I think it’s just that switch can basically run almost anything as long as you make the grafx ugly enough.

Wolfie 2 runs at 360p at times. It looks better on a smaller handheld screen.

They kept in pretty much all of the fancy effects like Motion blur and the geometry though.

[Human Snorenado]

I think it’s just that switch can basically run almost anything as long as you make the grafx ugly enough.

Unlimited whimsy tho, The Nintendo Difference™

[Corporal]

Don't forget the fun-shaders. Those are mostly Nintendo exclusive as well.

[kingv]

Playing Wolfie 2 on Switch to review after having played it on PC.

I must say I'm quite surprised how well it is holding up docked. It gets very blurry at times but frame rate remains solid as does the game play.
Although Stealth becomes very challenging at this resolution so It's mostly guns blazing which kinda fits this game better I guess.

Only worth it on Switch if you have no other way to play it though.

I think it’s just that switch can basically run almost anything as long as you make the grafx ugly enough.

Wolfie 2 runs at 360p at times. It looks better on a smaller handheld screen.

They kept in pretty much all of the fancy effects like Motion blur and the geometry though.

For a portable, that’s actually damn impressive.

360p must look pretty bad though, but maybe not terrible on a 6” screen.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Warframe is coming

[Nintex]

Playing Wolfie 2 on Switch to review after having played it on PC.

I must say I'm quite surprised how well it is holding up docked. It gets very blurry at times but frame rate remains solid as does the game play.
Although Stealth becomes very challenging at this resolution so It's mostly guns blazing which kinda fits this game better I guess.

Only worth it on Switch if you have no other way to play it though.

I think it’s just that switch can basically run almost anything as long as you make the grafx ugly enough.

Wolfie 2 runs at 360p at times. It looks better on a smaller handheld screen.

They kept in pretty much all of the fancy effects like Motion blur and the geometry though.

For a portable, that’s actually damn impressive.

360p must look pretty bad though, but maybe not terrible on a 6” screen.

It is hands down the best looking portable FPS ever. Like some black magic that they used.
Although smaller spaces tend to look more higher res than large areas. The New Orleans bit is probably the blurriest of all levels.
Inside bunkers and buildings it holds up quite well.

[bork]

It is hands down the best looking portable FPS ever. Like some black magic that they used.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I hate Crash Bandicoot so much

[bork]

I hate Crash Bandicoot so much

That bad?  Like in terms of mechanics, level design, or both?  I've never played those games before.  Did not care to back in the day, but I did get this collection because of an Amazon pre-order price fuck-off.  Figured I'd try it for $20.

[nachobro]

3d platformers with no camera control don't hold up for me, but i really liked those games at the time. now?

[Joe Molotov]

More like Trash Bandicoot.

[demi]

Crash Bandicoot rules. But the remake has control problems and it was pointed out by many during the initial release. I dont know if this is exacerbated by the terrible Switch version

If you find yourself "slipping" off the edge during jumps and getting frustrated -- so were we

[paprikastaude]

Crash Bandicoot rules. But the remake has control problems and it was pointed out by many during the initial release. I dont know if this is exacerbated by the terrible Switch version

If you find yourself "slipping" off the edge during jumps and getting frustrated -- so were we

They changed the physics in the first game to be like the third, but I can't say that it really gave me problems. When I watched some videos from people pointing out the controls, it's often been clear that they've simply had poor timing The most horrid experience I found was the second bridge level. Other than that, I loved Crash 1 last year. It was like playing one of these somewhat rough NES platformers except with amazing graphics. From back the in day I only knew Crash 3 and that's honestly the only one I didn't care for that much - gimmick-ridden to the max, the motorbike stages were always the worst.

[kingv]

I wonder if part of the timing issue is the latency inherent in modern systems and TVs that wasn’t there I’m the original.

I’ve noticed that a lot of old emulated games feel off to me, and I’m assuming that’s why. The latency wasn’t there in the original, and it feels weird if you aren’t used to it.

I’ve never played a Crash game nor the remakes though other than the level in Uncharted 4, which made it seem a lot like a poor mans Nintendo game.

[Rufus]

The most horrid experience I found was the second bridge level.

In the original, you can cheese them by walking on the ropes.

The remakes gave Crash a pill shaped collision volume, with a rounded top and bottom, making that and other tricky sections more difficult. No more safely landing jumps with only your toes touching the platform.

[Nintex]

I wonder if part of the timing issue is the latency inherent in modern systems and TVs that wasn’t there I’m the original.

I’ve noticed that a lot of old emulated games feel off to me, and I’m assuming that’s why. The latency wasn’t there in the original, and it feels weird if you aren’t used to it.

I’ve never played a Crash game nor the remakes though other than the level in Uncharted 4, which made it seem a lot like a poor mans Nintendo game.

Yep, you also have people playing on shitty TV's with 40ms or even 50ms of input lag. With TruMotion, SuperMotion, ClearMotion or whatever motion gimmick from LG/Samsung/Sony enabled wondering why they can't ever win.
You should aim for a TV with no more than 21ms input lag with 16ms being the absolute best available in the market.

Although that doesn't beat a CRT with an average of 8ms input lag and that's how we all played the original Crash and the likes.

[Sho Nuff]

The most horrid experience I found was the second bridge level.

In the original, you can cheese them by walking on the ropes.

The remakes gave Crash a pill shaped collision volume, with a rounded top and bottom, making that and other tricky sections more difficult. No more safely landing jumps with only your toes touching the platform.

JFC why the fuck would you ever change cylinder to capsule collision? They had to have known.

[Corporal]

That sounds like a pretty big edit to the core gameplay. Is there a classic mode or something?

...

Still futzing around in Paladins. Man, the Joycons really suck for certain games. I am utterly inept at the game unless I use the Pro controller.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

With the Pro I'm just inept. 

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[Junpei the Tracer!]

Amazon has shipped my copy of Captain Toad which is earlier than what they usually do, so maybe I might get it before Friday. I played CT on the WiiU and really enjoyed it but I gamefly'd it, so when they announced the switch version I decided I'm going buy it this time.

To me that's a real sign of quality, playing/reading/consuming something for free but enjoying it so much you decide to pay for it.