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« Reply #240 on: November 17, 2016, 05:32:00 PM »
KKK flyers found on the island. Not too surprised it's in Patchogue, home of Hitler's grandchildren :P

http://pix11.com/2016/11/17/kkk-flyers-found-in-patchogue-overnight/
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« Reply #241 on: November 17, 2016, 05:40:51 PM »
Trump aide is also saying he's planning a "victory tour" in the states he won. Is this normal ?
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« Reply #242 on: November 17, 2016, 05:55:03 PM »
nvm old news
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« Reply #243 on: November 17, 2016, 06:05:35 PM »
Trump aide is also saying he's planning a "victory tour" in the states he won. Is this normal ?
It's happened before. The Jackson's had a full on Victory Tour. I think that was the one where Dancing Machine was their first hit after a long slump.

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« Reply #244 on: November 17, 2016, 06:20:21 PM »
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Ron Dermer, Israel's ambassador to the United States, also visited the skyscraper and called Trump "a true friend of Israel." He specifically cited as another "friend" Trump campaign CEO Steve Bannon, whose selection as a top White House adviser has created a backlash among Democrats. Bannon's news website has peddled conspiracy theories, white nationalism and anti-Semitism.

"We look forward to working with the Trump administration, with all the members of the Trump administration, including Steve Bannon, in making the U.S.-Israel alliance stronger than ever," Dermer said.

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« Reply #245 on: November 17, 2016, 06:29:03 PM »
https://twitter.com/allinwithchris/status/798349610875924481



If you'd prefer it in classic YouTube format, then film this version with your phone vertically and re-upload it to YouTube at 240p:
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« Reply #246 on: November 17, 2016, 06:36:26 PM »
Hahaha internalized misogyny. everything but themselves. The epitome of liberal smug.
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« Reply #247 on: November 17, 2016, 06:48:15 PM »
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Newt Gingrich said Thursday he will not serve in the Donald Trump administration in any official role.
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With Nancy Pelosi facing a challenge within her own party after House Democrats’ disastrous election results, the NRCC would like to offer its full support to the embattled former Speaker of the House.

Under Nancy Pelosi’s leadership, House Democrats squandered their majority by forcing through unpopular legislation like Obamacare, of which Pelosi famously told us, “We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it.” After her party’s devastating 63 seat loss in the ensuing 2010 election, Pelosi miraculously maintained her spot as Democratic leader, which, predictably, led to the largest Republican majority since the 1920s.

Former Speaker Pelosi has also established herself as the world’s worst election prognosticator. Since her relegation to the minority, Pelosi has repeatedly assured reporters, cycle after cycle, that a Democrat majority is right around the corner, only to be soundly defeated each time.

“No single person deserves more credit for House Republicans’ historic majority than Nancy Pelosi,” said NRCC Communications Director Katie Martin. “Under Nancy Pelosi’s leadership, House Democrats have become completely irrelevant, and there is no better way to ensure that remains the case than by keeping her as Minority Leader. The NRCC offers its full support to Nancy Pelosi as she attempts to fend off this challenge to her failed leadership from within the ranks of her own party.”
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« Reply #248 on: November 17, 2016, 06:51:04 PM »
Everyone's saying now she should have spent more time and resources in MI/WI, and maybe?  But she pretty decisively outspent Trump in FL/NC/PA/OH/IA and lost all of those.

Seems like the overall message (hammering Trump for his misogyny and intolerance) was basically ineffective, and gets my tentative vote for Biggest Strategic Fuckup.

It's not just time in the state, it's location and allocation of resources (including time). She spent a lot of time in PA, but it was mainly focused on Philly and Pittsburgh. Given how poorly Trump did with suburban voters during the primaries I don't understand why the Clinton campaign did not expand beyond major cities in those states. She made the same mistake in MI, WI, OH, etc.

I agree her message was flawed though Look at what Obama did in rust belt states for instance, media wise. Nonstop ads about Romney being opposed to the auto bailout, "let Detroit go bankrupt," Bain Capitol, etc etc. I saw those ads nonstop. Compare to Hillary, whose ads were entirely about what Trump has said about women. Nothing about Trump shipping jobs overseas, having his products made in China, flip flopping on the auto bailout, etc. This is a man who eats pizza with a fork, and no one except Obama really focused on lampooning his populist credentials.
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Romney aside (not gonna happen), every piece of news out of this soon-to-be administration just brings me down more.  Fucking meeting with Jeff Sessions for a potential position?
Jeff Sessions was an early (earliest?) and unwavering supporter of Trump, so don't be surprised if he gets something.

So reports are flying about that Nikki Haley and David Petraeus are also up for Secretary of State.

the hell? Is he really, honestly is running this like some sort of entertainment property. Floating names and seeing which ones get the best reaction, not unlike how Marvel leaks casting wish lists and sees who the fans respond most positively to before telling the world that, yes, that one kid from that one thing is Spider-Man now.

Egads, even the potentially non-horrifying decisions made by this administration will be deeply stupid and dysfunctional, won't they?
Romney being considered is weird but pretty smart if you think about it (but definitely surprising); Nikki on the other hand is so out of left-field...however if she is trying to sell herself it would make sense because her time in South Carolina is soon to be up (unless Gowdy gets AG, in which case maybe not).
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« Reply #249 on: November 17, 2016, 07:00:28 PM »
When Axelrod suggested that Trump early & gargantuan media presence was because he was very proactive in making himself available or calling shows, Weaver objected that all the candidates in the Republican primary tried to do the same but that the TVs weren't interested in taking call-ins. It's nothing new, but it is further evidence that Trump was in demand by the media and that they played that nasty trick on themselves.
Guess what was in the STOLEN RUSSIAN HACK:
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« Reply #250 on: November 17, 2016, 07:12:11 PM »
I agree her message was flawed though Look at what Obama did in rust belt states for instance, media wise. Nonstop ads about Romney being opposed to the auto bailout, "let Detroit go bankrupt," Bain Capitol, etc etc. I saw those ads nonstop. Compare to Hillary, whose ads were entirely about what Trump has said about women. Nothing about Trump shipping jobs overseas, having his products made in China, flip flopping on the auto bailout, etc. This is a man who eats pizza with a fork, and no one except Obama really focused on lampooning his populist credentials.
I don't watch a lot of live TV but from what I did you could see the campaign strategy flip this fall. There were pro-Hillary "story" ads from the campaign, she did this, she was that, she wants to fight for that during the summer. And all of the sudden it became nothing but TRUMP SAID THIS ABOUT WOMEN AND HISPANICS. ALSO HE MOCKED A REPORTER.

And all the downballot Democrats did the same fucking thing. The House candidate in the next district over went from airing ads attacking the incumbent for his very conservative (for the District) votes to talking about how he wouldn't denounce Trump. She got blown the fuck out in a district that's like R+1 or something and (last I knew) has mostly all Democrats in the State Senate.

Those anti-Romney job-related ads were on constantly, and the downballot Democrats were hooking candidates to that aspect of Romney/the GOP. The "War on Women" didn't even seem to bubble up in the state.
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« Reply #251 on: November 17, 2016, 07:20:15 PM »
lol you can actually see it on her youtube account

Almost every ad from before September is positive and in this style:
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Then they suddenly become like this, which were on almost constantly:
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I think I saw this one exactly once:


I feel like I saw that "Sacrifice" one about ten thousand times and the "Role Models" one a few hundred times.
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« Reply #252 on: November 17, 2016, 07:22:59 PM »
Basically democrats ignored what people were actually concerned/focused on to instead beat them over the head with Trump's fuckery. I would have let the media do that, overall. He was getting crucified for weeks and weeks at various intervals.

Focusing on painting him as a heartless businessman while also laying out an economic agenda would have been ideal.

Oh I also saw the "Trump and nuclear weapons" ad a lot. I thought it was a good ad and very effective but again...that can't be the only message.
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« Reply #253 on: November 17, 2016, 07:42:20 PM »
Yeah, that was on a lot too. Weird, I couldn't find that one on her account, it was the missing one I couldn't think of.

They must have assumed that people would turn out to stop Trump, being as outraged by him as they were.

Trump wasn't running a lot of ads but these I saw the most:



And these were the two negative ones I seemed to see:


Even the latter one is taking shots at her health and stuff but doing it in the context of the "issues" rather than it being the only topic. I don't think I ever saw an ad talking about e-mails or calling her CROOKED HILLARY.
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« Reply #254 on: November 17, 2016, 08:08:05 PM »
Also, kind of as an aside, but I got rid of my avatar I'd been using for years here (from PSP Star Driver game with goofy hearts coming out of people) because the weird alt-right connection to anime avatars has soured them, probably for life, from me.  Also don't want anyone to ever mistake me for alt-right.  I think my gaf avatar is probably ok, since it's from a game and a trio of lynx even if it is based off an anime (Overman King Gainer)

...maybe they really will make America great again.
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« Reply #255 on: November 17, 2016, 08:17:37 PM »
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He said Scalia, a hero to many of the group's 40,000 members, is sorely missed on the court. "We are left to ask ourselves WWSD," what would Scalia do, Alito said. The lettering is a play on the phrase "WWJD," for what would Jesus do.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_TRUMP_SUPREME_COURT_TRYOUTS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-11-17-17-04-26

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« Reply #256 on: November 17, 2016, 08:38:56 PM »
Michael Flynn as National Security advisor as appointed by Trump. He has suggest US work with Russoa to combat the threat of ISIS.
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« Reply #257 on: November 17, 2016, 08:46:12 PM »

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« Reply #258 on: November 17, 2016, 08:55:23 PM »
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« Reply #259 on: November 17, 2016, 09:48:56 PM »

 :rejoice
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« Reply #260 on: November 17, 2016, 10:30:18 PM »
So, Trump met with Shinzo Abe today, ostensibly by himself [Ivanka was there], and no press were allowed. A single picture was released by Trump, and even Fox News refused to air the picture in protest.
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« Reply #261 on: November 17, 2016, 10:44:51 PM »
I would wear sunglasses in that place






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« Reply #262 on: November 17, 2016, 10:51:17 PM »
I would wear sunglasses in that place
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« Reply #263 on: November 17, 2016, 10:55:26 PM »
Not even a single diplomat.
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« Reply #264 on: November 17, 2016, 11:15:59 PM »
Jesus fucking christ
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« Reply #265 on: November 17, 2016, 11:31:40 PM »
I get the feeling Trump knows a lot of these leaders off the record doing "business"


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« Reply #266 on: November 18, 2016, 12:18:39 AM »
Also, kind of as an aside, but I got rid of my avatar I'd been using for years here (from PSP Star Driver game with goofy hearts coming out of people) because the weird alt-right connection to anime avatars has soured them, probably for life, from me.  Also don't want anyone to ever mistake me for alt-right.  I think my gaf avatar is probably ok, since it's from a game and a trio of lynx even if it is based off an anime (Overman King Gainer)
...but what if your avatar is from a manga?  That's ok, right?!?!?

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« Reply #267 on: November 18, 2016, 12:21:09 AM »
I wonder if Trump offered the Japanese PM a bag of oranges.
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« Reply #268 on: November 18, 2016, 12:29:03 AM »
Opulence, Trump has it.

Also Benji, I remember some candidate in California for some office or another started airing ads in the final month that were all about his opponents connections to Trump and how horrible Trump was. I forget who it was though.
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« Reply #269 on: November 18, 2016, 12:52:24 AM »
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« Reply #270 on: November 18, 2016, 01:04:28 AM »
love how butthurt the American media is protesting they couldn't get pics and the ones they got came from the Japanese government.



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« Reply #272 on: November 18, 2016, 01:49:30 AM »
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« Reply #273 on: November 18, 2016, 02:17:00 AM »
Speaking of nepotism it is reported that Trump's son in law is exploring the legal possibility of being in the administration.
His kids are obviously part of his informal circle as a President, can he really claim legally he's insulated from his businesses if he just waives it to them ?

Also I'm not surprised but Israël foreign policy :kobeyuck
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« Reply #274 on: November 18, 2016, 02:40:02 AM »
There's actually no laws against the President regarding this kind of stuff, only lower government officials. Trump can theoretically still be head of the Trump Organization. But I imagine he sees it as a good opportunity to do what he already wanted to do in turning it over to his kids.

No President has ever really been in this kind of situation before. At least to this extent. Like Romney's wealth was mostly already out of his hands and into various trusts. Lots of cabinet officials were though. Andrew Mellon being arguably the most famous example considering he wrote his own tax break into the tax code. :lol  Averell Harriman never left his railroad board positions. Wendall Wilkie's candidacy started from the TVA encrouching on his own business and his turning against the New Deal/FDR over it.

The funny thing is that the blind trust was first used by LBJ so he could continue to own his TV station under his wife's name: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/press_box/2007/07/the_honest_graft_of_lady_bird_johnson.html
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« Reply #275 on: November 18, 2016, 03:04:35 AM »
It's hilarious watching people be surprised at Israel's stance. You guys do realize that Israel's far-right government makes Trump look like Jill Stein, right?

Yet another little tidbit corporate media failed to disclose about our ever so benevolent allies.

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« Reply #276 on: November 18, 2016, 03:55:17 AM »
It's hilarious watching people be surprised at Israel's stance.

I'm not surprised

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« Reply #277 on: November 18, 2016, 04:19:08 AM »
It's hilarious watching people be surprised at Israel's stance.

I'm not surprised

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Good for you, everywhere this news is posted there are people wondering how Israel can stoop so low or if they're aware of Trump's rhetoric. There's a general sense of surprise amongst many Americans as if Israel doesn't have one of the worst far-right governments in the world responsible for crimes against humanity.

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« Reply #278 on: November 18, 2016, 04:21:47 AM »
why do republicans obsess over Israel so much anyway

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« Reply #279 on: November 18, 2016, 04:46:35 AM »
I get the feeling Trump knows a lot of these leaders off the record doing "business"
interesting thought
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« Reply #280 on: November 18, 2016, 04:56:03 AM »
why do republicans obsess over Israel so much anyway

Fulfilling bible prophecies for Christian fundamentalists.
Very effective lobbying.
One of the most stable democracies in the region. Solidarity between democracies a major boon to peace (or so the wisdom goes).
Very military proactive, lots of trade with their defence industry, amenable to US & Western interests in theory (in practice much less so, historically relations have been very ambivalent). Closer to the european cultural background, less foreign and other. It's symbolic, but for instance Israël is affiliated with the European football association for 20 years now.
Maybe less so in the USA but an underlying moral obligation and shame at the prospect of a second extermination.
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« Reply #281 on: November 18, 2016, 05:51:04 AM »
Also, kind of as an aside, but I got rid of my avatar I'd been using for years here (from PSP Star Driver game with goofy hearts coming out of people) because the weird alt-right connection to anime avatars has soured them, probably for life, from me.  Also don't want anyone to ever mistake me for alt-right.  I think my gaf avatar is probably ok, since it's from a game and a trio of lynx even if it is based off an anime (Overman King Gainer)
As long as it doesn't have that stupid fucking hat shopped on to it you're cool. Should I change mine now that Puty has been outed as having heavily manipulated our election or does that just make it strangely more relevant?
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« Reply #282 on: November 18, 2016, 08:54:58 AM »
Jeff Sessions (Senator-Alabama) for Attorney General apparently. He was Alabama Attorney General for a term, and Attorney for the Southern District for 12 years. Been on the Committee on the Judiciary for a long time. Not great, but probably better here than some of the other rumored slots. Also, better than having Rudy or Cruz or Christie here.

Mike Pompeo (Rep-Kansas) for CIA Director. He was in the army. He supports Gitmo and NSA spying. And thinks Snowden should get the death sentence, something he reiterated just a week or so ago. Worst pick easily so far. Good god.
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« Reply #283 on: November 18, 2016, 08:59:56 AM »
Also David Axelrod defended Trump's team on Twitter:
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We hadn't made any major appointments at this point in 2008.  I don't remember being criticized for it.
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@davidaxelrod @realDonaldTrump You've completely jumped the shark. Can you imagine if this were Obama, what the GOP would be saying???

From an ABC News story:
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Clinton’s transition into power did not go smoothly.

Shortly after capturing the Democratic nomination, he asked his campaign chairman, Mickey Kantor, to head his transition team. Kantor had conflicts with top campaign advisers, who pushed him out after Election Day, John P. Burke wrote in his book “Presidential Transitions: From Politics to Practice.”

“It’s a bloody, ugly mess,” said one staff member, according to The New York Times.

After the election, Clinton appointed two chairmen for his transition team: Vernon Jordan and Warren Christopher. Clinton announced his 48-person transition team on Nov. 12, nine days after the election.

With one month to go until his inauguration, Clinton announced his first Cabinet appointee — Sen. Lloyd Bentsen as secretary of the treasury — on Dec. 10.
This (and the Bush transition) is why there's now an official transition program in place and the Romney/Obama teams worked together on improving it even more four years ago.

EDIT: Here's The Atlantic piece from earlier in the year on the bipartisan efforts: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/04/improving-the-presidential-transition-2016/477528/
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« Reply #284 on: November 18, 2016, 09:51:05 AM »
why do republicans obsess over Israel so much anyway

Fulfilling bible prophecies for Christian fundamentalists.
Very effective lobbying.
One of the most stable democracies in the region. Solidarity between democracies a major boon to peace (or so the wisdom goes).
Very military proactive, lots of trade with their defence industry, amenable to US & Western interests in theory (in practice much less so, historically relations have been very ambivalent). Closer to the european cultural background, less foreign and other. It's symbolic, but for instance Israël is affiliated with the European football association for 20 years now.
Maybe less so in the USA but an underlying moral obligation and shame at the prospect of a second extermination.

Nah, it's definitely shared hatred of Muslims.
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« Reply #285 on: November 18, 2016, 09:54:30 AM »
If Sessions goes after Marijuana I will get so erect all of you will go blind.


Not because I personally give a shit, but because it seems like everyone under 25 who voted for Trump cares deeply. It makes sense, you have to be high to vote Trump.

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« Reply #286 on: November 18, 2016, 10:20:44 AM »
Yeah...I don't get narrative that the transition stuff is off the rails. Obama practically didn't appoint anyone until almost december.
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« Reply #287 on: November 18, 2016, 10:33:22 AM »
Yeah...I don't get narrative that the transition stuff is off the rails. Obama practically didn't appoint anyone until almost december.

There's some details that are unusual, like the mandatory paperwork being left without a signature after Christie was dumped for a couple of days, the fact that (AFAIK) the Trump team has not yet contacted the Pentagon or the State Department.

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« Reply #288 on: November 18, 2016, 10:58:52 AM »
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California's nonpartisan legislative analyst said Wednesday he's forecasting a $2.8 billion budget surplus next year and says California should be able to weather a mild recession without major budget cuts or tax increases over the next four years.
http://www.scpr.org/news/2016/11/17/66216/california-analyst-projects-2-8-billion-budget-sur/

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Two dozen Kansas road projects are being put on the back burner.

An official with the Kansas Department of Transportation said Tuesday that a resurfacing project in Johnson County was among the $32 million in work put on ice this week in the wake of the state’s budget shortfall.

There’s no timetable for when those projects may be put out to bid. An additional 10 projects, at an estimated cost of $8 million, are still set to move forward.

The move came after state officials said last week that Kansas is facing a nearly $350 million shortfall this fiscal year. The shortfall for the next fiscal year is $582 million. Originally, 34 projects were set to be put out for bid in December.
http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article114919063.html

Remember how the Democrats ran a highly successful ad campaign contrasting successful Democrat governors with conservative failed states?

President Hillary remembers


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« Reply #290 on: November 18, 2016, 11:06:21 AM »
Trump will have vast powers like Obama had 'vast powers'?

:neogaf

Trump will have vast powers because the senate won't fucking cockblock everything he does

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« Reply #291 on: November 18, 2016, 11:10:27 AM »
It's hilarious watching people be surprised at Israel's stance. You guys do realize that Israel's far-right government makes Trump look like Jill Stein, right?

Yet another little tidbit corporate media failed to disclose about our ever so benevolent allies.
Hopefully Bannon can put them in their place.
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« Reply #292 on: November 18, 2016, 11:14:53 AM »

Trump will have vast powers. He can thank Democrats for them.
Liberals liked executive authority as long as Obama wielded it. Now they've set a precedent.



PoliGAF needs to read, and understand, this.

If Obama wielded executive authority that was beyond what he predecessors did, which I wouldn't necessarily agree with [or, at the very least, it's all incrementalism], it was almost exclusively due to six years of Congressional intransigence on virtually every meaningful issue.
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« Reply #293 on: November 18, 2016, 11:15:55 AM »
Yeah...I don't get narrative that the transition stuff is off the rails. Obama practically didn't appoint anyone until almost december.
I'm expecting this presidency to be a disaster and I have a great personal distaste for the man, but liberals need to not froth at the mouth for every little thing.  Many Republicans have the"Sun never shines during a Democratic president" mood and it's off-putting and dull as hell.

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« Reply #294 on: November 18, 2016, 11:21:53 AM »

Trump will have vast powers. He can thank Democrats for them.
Liberals liked executive authority as long as Obama wielded it. Now they've set a precedent.



PoliGAF needs to read, and understand, this.

If Obama wielded executive authority that was beyond what he predecessors did, which I wouldn't necessarily agree with [or, at the very least, it's all incrementalism], it was almost exclusively due to six years of Congressional intransigence on virtually every meaningful issue.

Maybe so but didn't he nonetheless "normalize" (to use a popular notion) constant drone strikes and Guantanamo ?
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« Reply #295 on: November 18, 2016, 11:31:11 AM »
Proof that the Russians stole the elections as why polling didn't match the "results" reported: http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/fair-election-serious-hard-explain-questions-arise-about-trump-vote-totals-3-key
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These recount-justifying anomalies go beyond the discrepancies in media exit polls predicting a Hillary Clinton victory on November 8 and subsequent vote counts where Trump won states that have not backed Republican presidents for decades. Recounts could clarify or verify whether several different forms of electronic hacking could have padded state voter rolls and altered resulting counts.
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The count anomalies and possible explanations cited by the team of voting rights attorneys and electronic voting machine experts, whose experience in these issues dates back to the 2000 and 2004 elections, combined a mix of old and new threats. In some cases, known electronic voting machine vulnerabilities may have been tapped to inflate county-level vote tabulations, they said, suggesting those machines should be impounded and examined. Where Russia may have been involved, their theory goes beyond anything imagined in past elections. They posited that last summer’s Russia hacks of voter registration databases could have yielded sufficient information to create large numbers of phantom absentee ballot voters, inflating the Trump vote in certain swing states that helped win the Electoral College.

Recounts and related litigation could explore if either happened, they said. Obtaining and comparing pre- and post-election logic and accuracy reports of voting machinery might begin to trace the “older school” vote-count tampering, where countywide totals are calculated. (American elections are run by county officials.) Similarly, comparing voter lists from states hacked by Russians, such as Illinois where more than 200,000 voter files were taken, to states with very high numbers of absentee ballots, could reveal if phantom voters were put into those state’s databases, they said.

“The theory here rests not on the claim that the hackers used data from Illinois to apply for registration status and absentee ballots,” one attorney explained. “Rather, the theory is that the hackers used the data from Illinois to place fake voters into voter registration databases which they also hacked… A leading computer scientist agreed this is how it could be done.”   
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Michigan

Election night’s unofficial returns found Trump ahead by 11,000 votes. But 87,000 ballots did not show a presidential vote, the election integrity team said, which broke a 49,000 empty-vote record from previous presidential elections. A recount could clarify if all those ballots were improperly read by the state’s optical scan voting systems, in which computers process ink-marked paper ballots. In addition, about 25 percent of Michigan voted by mail, which they said said also could have been padded with phantom voters via the Russian hack.
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Wisconsin

Election night’s unofficial returns found Trump ahead of Clinton by 27,000 votes. But Clinton won only counties using all-paper ballots, the computer voting experts said. In the counties using a mix of electronic and paper-based voting systems that President Obama won in 2012, Clinton lost by 1-2 percent. In the Obama counties using all paperless machines, she lost by 10 to 15 percent. (Five percent of the state’s 4.6 million voters, or 230,000 people, cast their ballots on paperless machines, state officials said Wednesday.)

Wisconsin also saw a record numbers of absentee ballots, with 831,000 ballots cast, which was about 30 percent of this fall’s vote. In past years, it was about 20 percent. Of that overall amount, about 134,000 were from people who mailed them in, instead of turning them in at polling places, state officials said.

The questions raised by the election integrity team are twofold. First, did old-school hacking pad Trump’s margin in counties with all-electronic voting systems? Under that scenario, paperless voting systems would be breached and totals changed. Second, was there a sizable effort to pad the absentee ballot voting with phantom voters, created from last summer’s Russian hacks into voter registration databases in other states?

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Barbara Tors • 3 hours ago
Call me a numbers or statistical nerd but there is a very, very slim chance that all the exit polls in swing states compared to vote totals would be so highly skewed to Trump. Variance for these states was totallly abnormal - there was NOT a normal variance in the margin of error. In other words, it's statistically improbable that this election was won by Trump in these swing states. Appreciate any rational comments to prove otherwise. The "red shift" IS real!
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rick armstrong • 2 hours ago
My first thoughts, after it became obvious that Trump was going to win, were that the voting had been rigged. How could that many pre-election polls have been so abysmally wrong? But even if it were proven beyond a doubt that Republicans had managed to sabotage the voting, nothing would come of it. The Republicans control all of those states where the voting was most suspect. And besides, the Democratic Party is comprised of nothing but neoliberal wimps who don't have the balls to stand up to Republican BS. And the media would do everything it could to keep us and the world from knowing that our election system is so flawed and intentionally undemocratic.
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Yes. I. Have-one • 2 hours ago
To me the proof was in the pudding. Gary Johnson and Jill Stein did waaayyyy better than they did in 2012-there is most of your voters who did not like either main candidate. Gary Johnson's totals were significantly higher than Stein, reflecting how much of a shit storm Trump was. The country as a whole polls left on policy questions. Some states passed initiatives like medical marijuana, usually not a Republican issue, or has other state wide offices won by Democrats. Those numbers do not add up. It was obvious there was something up from the numbers alone. You mix all those Russian DNC hacks and other hacks of voting rolls and the voting machine companies, I mean, just how much does one have to spell it out, that Trump not only lost the popular vote, he actually did not even win the goddamn electoral vote.

Presidential elections from recent history where Republicans cheated, acted shady, etc.

1968-Nixon makes secret deal with Norh Vietnam to reject Johnson's peace deal. Oh yeah, RFK was killed too, throw that in.

1972-Nixon again, CREEP, Watergate, southern strategy, drug war, encouraging Wallace to run as a third party to split the Democrats.

1980-Reagan and Bush cut a secret deal with Iran to keep the hostages until after the election. The hostages are subsequently released, literally while St. Ronnie's punk demon ass was being sworn in.

1988-the Willie Horton ad, and the burning at the stake of Gary Hart.

2000-Florida, recounts, and then a right wing supreme court crowns W president, even though he actually lost. We all know how that turned out. 16 years of war and counting, a depression, etc.

2004-Vote count in Ohio is rigged with the same voting machines it was rigged on in 2016.

The last legit, ELECTED Rethug president we had was Dwight D. Eishenhower. Trump is no different.

Oh yeah, Republicans have one overriding principle. Power. All the lip service to god, defense, family values, all that is second to the pursuit of power.

The Republicans are at war with the Unted States and the American people. They have been since about this time of year, in 1963.

If this won't convince the Electoral College to do their jobs, nothing will.
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« Reply #296 on: November 18, 2016, 11:33:01 AM »
Sessions accepted Attorney General.  This administration really is going to be a group of wannabe confederates running the government, finally getting that "south will rise again" moment.  I wonder if they'll get to rename the civil war in all the history books as the war of southern independence.   :maf

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« Reply #297 on: November 18, 2016, 11:43:10 AM »
Why would they do that when it's properly called the War of Northern Aggression.
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« Reply #298 on: November 18, 2016, 11:44:38 AM »

Trump will have vast powers. He can thank Democrats for them.
Liberals liked executive authority as long as Obama wielded it. Now they've set a precedent.



PoliGAF needs to read, and understand, this.

If Obama wielded executive authority that was beyond what he predecessors did, which I wouldn't necessarily agree with [or, at the very least, it's all incrementalism], it was almost exclusively due to six years of Congressional intransigence on virtually every meaningful issue.

And now they (theoretically) have a president that has all those expanded executive powers and a Congress to back him up. Genius?

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« Reply #299 on: November 18, 2016, 11:58:18 AM »
Thankfully, the only people who will get harmed are those who should have had better parents in the first place.
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