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« Reply #29100 on: January 26, 2019, 03:03:26 PM »
Ro Khanna is one of the few members of congress to stand against the Venezuelan coup, he is immediately smeared, and he responds.





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« Reply #29101 on: January 26, 2019, 03:05:38 PM »
Youtube videos of people putting tweets on a green screen and pointing at them.

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« Reply #29102 on: January 26, 2019, 03:07:18 PM »
Youtube videos of people putting tweets on a green screen and pointing at them.

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Looking at tweets counts as "news" now. What's even worse is that people actually consider it to be news.
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« Reply #29104 on: January 26, 2019, 03:10:55 PM »
Here's the thing too. Once you've watched one video, there's another video waiting for you in your recs. It's very, very easy to fall down a Youtube rabbit hole and very hard to get out of it.

Dufus is right.

Youtube is :yuck

Listened to a Podcast about this very subject just the other day.
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« Reply #29105 on: January 26, 2019, 03:13:36 PM »
YouTube has become a lot better for me since I started gassing Wank Dad, Joe DMT, and anything about video games in my suggested videos.

Jettisoning incorrect lolbertarian thought from my life. :rejoice

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« Reply #29106 on: January 26, 2019, 03:13:48 PM »
I know we've got a general ethos of chillposting, but maybe filler could drop the explicit antisemitism? That would be cool?

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« Reply #29107 on: January 26, 2019, 03:15:28 PM »
I agree. I can't stand the Jewish conspiracy thing in the ((( ))) meme and it's just wrong to use it.
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« Reply #29108 on: January 26, 2019, 03:16:49 PM »
YouTube has become a lot better for me since I started gassing Wank Dad, Joe DMT, and anything about video games in my suggested videos.

Jettisoning incorrect lolbertarian thought from my life. :rejoice

No more vidya videos?! :tocry
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« Reply #29109 on: January 26, 2019, 03:19:30 PM »
I'm anti-(((person who believes in the development and protection of a Jewish nation))), not antisemite  ::)
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« Reply #29110 on: January 26, 2019, 03:20:51 PM »
YouTube has become a lot better for me since I started gassing Wank Dad, Joe DMT, and anything about video games in my suggested videos.

Jettisoning incorrect lolbertarian thought from my life. :rejoice

No more vidya videos?! :tocry

I still watch them, I just don't watch anything I didn't seek out myself or find while using forums. Even RPG Codex is more reliable than The Algorithm.

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« Reply #29111 on: January 26, 2019, 03:21:15 PM »
From chillposting to walkoutthedoorposting. Thanks Filler! I'm not touching this.
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« Reply #29112 on: January 26, 2019, 03:22:07 PM »
YouTube has become a lot better for me since I started gassing Wank Dad, Joe DMT, and anything about video games in my suggested videos.

Jettisoning incorrect lolbertarian thought from my life. :rejoice

No more vidya videos?! :tocry

I still watch them, I just don't watch anything I didn't seek out myself or find while using forums. Even RPG Codex is more reliable than The Algorithm.

My recommended videos are good for vidya at least.
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« Reply #29113 on: January 26, 2019, 03:24:32 PM »
youtube keeps trying to get me to watch bill burr vids  :yuck


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« Reply #29114 on: January 26, 2019, 03:28:15 PM »
As much as I respect and support her, it bothers me people are making it a meme that it was Pelosi that ended the shutdown. It reeks of partisanship. Surely employees shutting down two airports that day didn't impact the shutdown? Nah, it was all Pelosi.
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« Reply #29115 on: January 26, 2019, 03:28:58 PM »
fuck pelosi
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« Reply #29117 on: January 26, 2019, 03:30:29 PM »
I'm anti-(((person who believes in the development and protection of a Jewish nation))), not antisemite  ::)

The triple parens comes from a white supremacist podcast named after the Holocaust, and is used to emphasize Jewish names. Its origin and common use are openly antisemitic. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you weren't aware of this, since it really blew up 2015ish and you've obviously only started getting into this subject in the last half year or so.

While we're at it, maybe posting political cartoons where a Jewish person is portrayed as a hook-nosed face on top of a spider body is something we could do less of?

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« Reply #29118 on: January 26, 2019, 03:34:52 PM »
Galaxy brain: The real hero of the shutdown was Donald Trump, who pursued such a brazenly idiotic strategy that it was inevitable he'd fail and the government would reopen.

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« Reply #29119 on: January 26, 2019, 03:35:37 PM »
Responding to a filler post. Rookie mistake right there.

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« Reply #29120 on: January 26, 2019, 03:36:31 PM »
As much as I respect and support her, it bothers me people are making it a meme that it was Pelosi that ended the shutdown. It reeks of partisanship. Surely employees shutting down two airports that day didn't impact the shutdown? Nah, it was all Pelosi.

Trump and McConnell decided to end the shutdown Thursday night, before the Friday flight interruptions .
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« Reply #29122 on: January 26, 2019, 03:39:30 PM »
As much as I respect and support her, it bothers me people are making it a meme that it was Pelosi that ended the shutdown. It reeks of partisanship. Surely employees shutting down two airports that day didn't impact the shutdown? Nah, it was all Pelosi.

Trump and McConnell decided to end the shutdown Thursday night, before the Friday flight interruptions .

Ah, I stand corrected.
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« Reply #29123 on: January 26, 2019, 03:44:25 PM »
https://twitter.com/GOP/status/1089191237851271170

:neogaf

Speaking of galaxy brain.

In Trump's speech yesterday he flat out says he'll get what he wants anyways and that he'll hold us hostage again.
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« Reply #29124 on: January 26, 2019, 03:44:43 PM »
People tend to view politics through narratives that center a few famous public figures. It's the nature of the beast.

We had something like a year of stories about whether Pelosi was so unpopular that the Dems couldn't take the House back. The pendulum just swung in the other direction.

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« Reply #29125 on: January 26, 2019, 03:46:21 PM »
It's kind of hilarious that Nancy Pelosi is America's Leon Blum, all things considered.

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« Reply #29126 on: January 26, 2019, 03:47:00 PM »
My YouTube recommendations are just Evanescence and Planet Coaster.

I don't know what the fuck you all watch the trigger your nazi videos
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« Reply #29127 on: January 26, 2019, 03:49:56 PM »
People tend to view politics through narratives that center a few famous public figures. It's the nature of the beast.

We had something like a year of stories about whether Pelosi was so unpopular that the Dems couldn't take the House back. The pendulum just swung in the other direction.

I wonder how the anti-Pelosi "we don't need a moderate Democrat we need progressive, young blood" Democratic wing feel about the past weeks events.

What was most telling to me was that Pelosi offered Republicans a traditionally Republican option for ending the shutdown. I've read so many think pieces on how apparently moderate Democrats like Pelosi are the problem and that being a moderate is a bad thing. I wonder what they think now?
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« Reply #29128 on: January 26, 2019, 03:51:10 PM »
I have three videos in my watch history with "Peterson" in them and Youtube still sneaks a JP vid into my recommendations every now and then.

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« Reply #29129 on: January 26, 2019, 03:52:00 PM »
Dear God, I miss Mad Men.
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« Reply #29130 on: January 26, 2019, 03:55:05 PM »
I miss prime AP :whew

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« Reply #29131 on: January 26, 2019, 03:55:21 PM »
People tend to view politics through narratives that center a few famous public figures. It's the nature of the beast.

We had something like a year of stories about whether Pelosi was so unpopular that the Dems couldn't take the House back. The pendulum just swung in the other direction.

I wonder how the anti-Pelosi "we don't need a moderate Democrat we need progressive, young blood" Democratic wing feel about the past weeks events.

Since I'm plugged into that, it's being ascribed to the airline industry sort of shutting down and the donor class making phone calls about not being able to fly to their third, fourth, and / or fifth homes when they wanted.

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« Reply #29132 on: January 26, 2019, 03:59:45 PM »
People tend to view politics through narratives that center a few famous public figures. It's the nature of the beast.

We had something like a year of stories about whether Pelosi was so unpopular that the Dems couldn't take the House back. The pendulum just swung in the other direction.

I wonder how the anti-Pelosi "we don't need a moderate Democrat we need progressive, young blood" Democratic wing feel about the past weeks events.

Since I'm plugged into that, it's being ascribed to the airline industry sort of shutting down and the donor class making phone calls about not being able to fly to their third, fourth, and / or fifth homes when they wanted.

Ah, so it's the opposite: not giving Pelosi any credit.
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« Reply #29133 on: January 26, 2019, 04:02:27 PM »
The actual challenge to Pelosi as speaker didn't really come from the left wing of the party. It was more the centrist wing, but really it wasn't that ideological. Had more to do with candidates who had committed to not voting for her as Speaker (because they were being bombarded with ads tying them to Pelosi), and members of the caucus who were frustrated with the leadership in general being super old and not allowing any room to move up the ranks. Part of her solution was to create a bunch of new "leadership" positions.

Steny Hoyer, now that's someone progressives should be getting out of the paint.

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« Reply #29134 on: January 26, 2019, 04:11:19 PM »
The actual challenge to Pelosi as speaker didn't really come from the left wing of the party. It was more the centrist wing, but really it wasn't that ideological. Had more to do with candidates who had committed to not voting for her as Speaker (because they were being bombarded with ads tying them to Pelosi), and members of the caucus who were frustrated with the leadership in general being super old and not allowing any room to move up the ranks. Part of her solution was to create a bunch of new "leadership" positions.

Steny Hoyer, now that's someone progressives should be getting out of the paint.

Ah, you're mistaken. I'm not speaking of actual elected Democrats. The progressive caucus of the party supported her in the fight. I'm talking about laymen and citizens which Karakand can maybe vouch for me. From my time viewing regular progressives, they wanted someone newer. I could certainly be wrong, however, as I'm less in tune with the social media outrage people now.

These days I put a line between actual progressive elected officials and their supporters. Their supporters are far more radical.
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« Reply #29135 on: January 26, 2019, 04:21:41 PM »
It's kind of hilarious that Nancy Pelosi is America's Leon Blum, all things considered.

Not able to accelerate rearmement quickly enough ?
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« Reply #29136 on: January 26, 2019, 04:25:18 PM »
Ah, you're mistaken. I'm not speaking of actual elected Democrats. The progressive caucus of the party supported her in the fight. I'm talking about laymen and citizens which Karakand can maybe vouch for me. From my time viewing regular progressives, they wanted someone newer. I could certainly be wrong, however, as I'm less in tune with the social media outrage people now.

These days I put a line between actual progressive elected officials and their supporters. Their supporters are far more radical.

Yeah, I get the difference. But I wonder how many liberal/progressive types are actually solidly anti-Pelosi. My sense is that there seems to be a lot if you're extremely Online.

I think a lot of liberals, especially younger ones, had a vaguely negative impression of her because she'd been in leadership forever and has been at the head of the party as they've lost a bunch of elections. Getting a couple wins in a row where Trump backs down without getting anything changes that.

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« Reply #29137 on: January 26, 2019, 04:31:33 PM »
Ah, you're mistaken. I'm not speaking of actual elected Democrats. The progressive caucus of the party supported her in the fight. I'm talking about laymen and citizens which Karakand can maybe vouch for me. From my time viewing regular progressives, they wanted someone newer. I could certainly be wrong, however, as I'm less in tune with the social media outrage people now.

These days I put a line between actual progressive elected officials and their supporters. Their supporters are far more radical.

Yeah, I get the difference. But I wonder how many liberal/progressive types are actually solidly anti-Pelosi. My sense is that there seems to be a lot if you're extremely Online.

I think a lot of liberals, especially younger ones, had a vaguely negative impression of her because she'd been in leadership forever and has been at the head of the party as they've lost a bunch of elections. Getting a couple wins in a row where Trump backs down without getting anything changes that.

Good take. It takes time but it's wise to realize that what's said on social media doesn't necessarily correspond to actual party mandate. A lot of what goes on social media is just noise but if you read it enough, you might think it's mainstream opinion. Which is why Republicans (or even people in our Outside Forum Thread) often think what some random progressive schmuck from Twitter or RejectEra says is in any way a reflection on "The Left" (capitalized) when in reality, it's just some random college student whose opinion means jack and shit.

So when you read online from twitter or forums where progressives are rabidly against "centrists" like Pelosi, you might start to try to connect the dots and think their progressive representatives think similarly. But it's really not true.

I get the feeling for many of the younger, more progressive Democrats they feel like the "old guard" are why they lost in 2016 and that's why they want them out, which is exactly what you said.
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« Reply #29138 on: January 26, 2019, 04:36:58 PM »
It's kind of hilarious that Nancy Pelosi is America's Leon Blum, all things considered.

Not able to accelerate rearmement quickly enough ?

Occupying power so the far-right can't but not actually doing anything because occupying power isn't wielding it, but good dunk!

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« Reply #29139 on: January 26, 2019, 05:40:37 PM »
https://twitter.com/jentaub/status/1089193853230505984

Oh wow, how did that leak?

https://twitter.com/jentaub/status/1089194680242327552

Oh, okay, so you haven't seen it.

114 tweets if there are any masochists here.

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« Reply #29140 on: January 26, 2019, 05:45:53 PM »
Marcy Wheeler's been banging that drum forever: that Mueller uses indictments and plea bargains to get stuff on the record rather than waiting to put it in a report that might never be made public.

She also has the basic decency to blog rather than make monstrous tweet threads.

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« Reply #29141 on: January 26, 2019, 05:48:47 PM »
maddow-esque
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« Reply #29142 on: January 26, 2019, 06:30:26 PM »
https://twitter.com/jentaub/status/1089220708859854848

"Heya everyone this is Robert Mueller. You know the former director of the FBI.

I'm here to inform that ALL of our special agents, agencies, analysts operating in the United States and abroad were soundly beaten by Roger Stone.
He managed to pull off a widespread conspiracy with the help of Russia and Wikileaks to have Donald Trump elected as your president.

You might ask, why are we paying for any of this counter intelligence if it can be beaten by Roger Stone using an insecure phone we already tapped into going out to secret meetings in top hats and purple suits.
Well...."

Even if it were true.
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« Reply #29143 on: January 26, 2019, 06:34:48 PM »
This is a good point.

Typically if you finish doing a crime, law enforcement won't arrest or indict you cause they're too embarrassed to admit they didn't catch you earlier.

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« Reply #29144 on: January 26, 2019, 06:43:09 PM »
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« Reply #29145 on: January 26, 2019, 06:47:13 PM »
Maybe it was Obama's fault

"Sir. we have gathered intelligence that suggests that Roger Stone is about to install Donald Trump as the next President using a disinformation campaign run by Wikileaks with intel provided from Russia."
"Hahhahaha oh you guys, that's nonsense. That's baloney. If that's true, than I'm born in Kenya"

But maybe that's why Putin didn't 'clean up' and still says he didn't have any involvement. Because Stone ran the operation all by himself without Putin knowing about it.
After all this the THE Roger Stone we're talking about. The guy that ran circles around the FBI (literally).
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« Reply #29146 on: January 26, 2019, 07:23:16 PM »
all these liberals reeeeing over the Starbucks guy

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« Reply #29147 on: January 26, 2019, 07:30:02 PM »
that's balony
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« Reply #29148 on: January 26, 2019, 08:24:20 PM »
For fucks sake do these people think that blogs and personal websites were banned or something
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« Reply #29150 on: January 26, 2019, 08:36:46 PM »
For fucks sake do these people think that blogs and personal websites were banned or something
You don't get your ego stroked for every other sentence on a blog.

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« Reply #29151 on: January 26, 2019, 08:49:23 PM »
Do you think he really loves wikileaks, or is he just saying that because he saw it?
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« Reply #29152 on: January 26, 2019, 08:49:26 PM »
People that read long Twitter threads are in the same category as per that watch long YouTube videos.
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« Reply #29154 on: January 26, 2019, 09:51:15 PM »
https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1089341262174531590

Did Donald Trump end the shutdown because he missed tweeting how bad the media is, and how the Mueller probe is a witch hunt? He couldn't do that during the shutdown, or I just didn't notice it.

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« Reply #29155 on: January 26, 2019, 09:52:50 PM »
pretty good campaign ad, I rate it  9 out of 11 :-[

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« Reply #29159 on: January 26, 2019, 11:06:26 PM »
I think a lot of liberals, especially younger ones, had a vaguely negative impression of her because she'd been in leadership forever and has been at the head of the party as they've lost a bunch of elections. Getting a couple wins in a row where Trump backs down without getting anything changes that.

There are no wins for the next 2 years and in a best case scenario for 2020 the Democratic Party would still be facing a judicial branch that's been stacked for years and controlling a minority of state governments.

When people don't like the leadership who brought us to this point it's entirely warranted unless you think losing that severely is just something that happens no matter what.