US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[benjipwns]

AOC gave her response and went after ICE on MSNBC, no clip up yet on YouTube.

[MMaRsu]

Lol greenscreening the presidents head onto a body

This is how far America has come

You can easily tell by looking at his 'hands' when he opens them up. that a greenscreen was employed here



 

[benjipwns]

why did NBC upload a video that has an hour long silent shot of the White House before anything happens?

[MMaRsu]

I think it was just the stream video

[agrajag]

why did NBC upload a video that has an hour long silent shot of the White House before anything happens?

that's the livestream that they reposted, pretty common

[benjipwns]

you're trying to gaslight sealion me

[agrajag]

well you've been lionized so much it's time to take you down a peg

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1082833069864898562

[Tripon]

I thought the plan was to have one democratic (okay, two) reponse. Why is everyone taking their shot?

[benjipwns]

Bernie is an independent, and Sandy was just on MSNBC as a guest more than it being an "official" response.

[shosta]

Tripon is right, though. The only conflict within the Democracy Party should be between "good" and "best".

[benjipwns]

whenever I see El Chapo Trial headlines out of the corner of my eye I initially think our WHITE podcast friends had hit the mainsteam media big time

[kingv]

Brianna Wus response on twitch was really good.

[benjipwns]

Brianna Wus response on twitch was really good.

[Mandark]

It's crazy how bad a negotiator Trump is.

Also, I can't believe he let Anne fucking Coulter bully him into this.

[benjipwns]

Never having Ann Coulter compete on The Celebrity Apprentice was a real missed opportunity. They could have had Jimmie Walker too.

[nachobro]

Ann would have destroyed Piers Morgan

[benjipwns]

Actually, now that I think about it, I'm kinda curious how far you guys trend towards the "open borders" side. If we put Trump/Dobbs on the "right" (or left), the Dimms mostly in the middle, benji on the "far left" (or far right) and pragmatic attempted benji* on the "left" etc.

Nobody has to actually answer or anything of course, I just don't think we've ever really talked about it like other stuff that I remember so I'm a bit curious how far we collectively go on this front.

*Some minor free paperwork mostly as a type of census, health/crime checks before residency allowed. Highly lenient status refugee acceptance. Drivers licenses are okay, so is voting, etc. Complete ban on Canadians, automatic high powered turrets every three feet along the Canadian border, minefields, and multiple walls based on defense in depth principles.

[Mandark]

buddy you think they should give trump the wall

gonna need you to take a few steps to the middle

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/dandrezner/status/1082846451535958016

[Mandark]

Every six weeks or so I remember that Bill Shine landed a White House gig after spending years protecting Roger Ailes and Bill O'Reilly so they could molest female employees at Fox News.

Truly, #metoo has gone too far.

[benjipwns]

buddy you think they should give trump the wall

gonna need you to take a few steps to the middle

That statement was made in the context of political strategy for others, not as my own political stance. Which should be more than obvious considering...well, I dunno, everything.

[Mandark]

please less talking and move over next to manchin so we can take this photo

[Great Rumbler]

Every six weeks or so I remember that Bill Shine landed a White House gig after spending years protecting Roger Ailes and Bill O'Reilly so they could molest female employees at Fox News.

Truly, #metoo has gone too far.

Remember when Roger Ailes became a Trump adviser almost immediately after being fired from Fox?

[team filler]

Torshin continued to travel frequently to the United States and even showed up as part of a Russian delegation in February 2017 to the National Prayer Breakfast, where he was at one point scheduled to meet with President Trump.

"Sure I will just meet with the Russian money launderer during the second month of my presidency. Very cool, very legal."

 

Would be best if some Russian called Donald during his speech and he accidently puts it on speaker 

need melania emoji 

[MMaRsu]

Every six weeks or so I remember that Bill Shine landed a White House gig after spending years protecting Roger Ailes and Bill O'Reilly so they could molest female employees at Fox News.

Truly, #metoo has gone too far.

Remember when Roger Ailes became a Trump adviser almost immediately after being fired from Fox?

On July 21, 2016, Ailes resigned from Fox News, receiving $40 million[36] from Fox in an exit agreement.

Ahh to harass your way to 40 mil and into the white house 

[shosta]

Actually, now that I think about it, I'm kinda curious how far you guys trend towards the "open borders" side.

Entering the United States illegally is trespassing, so the punishment should be commensurate. I believe that's around a $1000 fine. As for border "security", who cares?

[benjipwns]

Entering the United States illegally is trespassing

Only if the property owners do not consent. You wouldn't know being completely surrounded by it but for most of the rest of us it's quite easy to avoid entering Federal land.

[shosta]

The entirety of the US implicitly belongs to the public unless explicitly owned by an individual or the federal government proper

[shosta]

https://twitter.com/AP_Politics/status/1082857277084893184

[kingv]

It's crazy how bad a negotiator Trump is.

Also, I can't believe he let Anne fucking Coulter bully him into this.

It’s super crazy.

He is currently negotiating with himself by trying to (illegally) shift money around to stave off the worst of the shutdown threats. But, if he figures out a way to keep the parks open and pat snap, why would dems ever come to the table?!

[benjipwns]

The entirety of the US implicitly belongs to the public unless explicitly owned by an individual or the federal government proper

So you're in the pocket of Big Allodial, knew it, statist filth. I hope you reflect on this when the revolution comes and you're treated in a fair manner according to voluntary agreement among all parties.

[curly]

democrats 

[benjipwns]

excited for this "more innovation"

[curly]

how can you write pablum like that and think you're effectively communicating with the public? is their target audience government contractors and old people looking for something to lull themselves to sleep?

[Trent Dole]

'We also hate dune coons, but we say it more nicely.'
Gee I wonder why turn out is so low for you guys so much of the time.

[shosta]

So you're in the pocket of Big Allodial, knew it, statist filth. I hope you reflect on this when the revolution comes and you're treated in a fair manner according to voluntary agreement among all parties.

I don't follow. The land can't consent to being claimed by the public!

[Nintex]

All I'm seeing is "mom/dad dissapointed" chuck and nancy memes and Trump didn't piss himself. He won this round imo.

[benjipwns]

alright, fine, i discard my opinion that it was a stalemate

[agrajag]

https://twitter.com/AP_Politics/status/1082857277084893184

 

[agrajag]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1082857997032919040


babby's first oval office televised speech

[Nola]

https://twitter.com/AP_Politics/status/1082857277084893184

Fact check, the gunman threatening to kill the hostages is one of the reasons for the crisis, the police not giving into his demands is the other.

Both sides

[Brehvolution]

This clown's own party wouldn't give him the wall his first 2 years so he shuts down the govt. because the opposition party won't give it to him. That's all Chuck and Nancy had to say.

[Joe Molotov]

And the GOP is just hoping that he’ll declare the state of emergency and take the wall money by force so they can publicly tsk tsk and then reopen the government.

[Tripon]

And the GOP is just hoping that he’ll declare the state of emergency and take the wall money by force so they can publicly tsk tsk and then reopen the government.

The politics of clearly wanting something illegal to happen in order to not have to publicly defy your party's head.

[Nintex]

And the GOP is just hoping that he’ll declare the state of emergency and take the wall money by force so they can publicly tsk tsk and then reopen the government.

The politics of clearly wanting something illegal to happen in order to not have to publicly defy your party's head.

Unlike many other things it is not illegal for a president to do so. It is frowned upon but not illegal.

And that is seemingly where things are headed. Although Trump mentioned the Dems would visit today and everything could be solved in a 45 minute meeting. 
After which he can go back to golf.

So I'm not sure how dragging this out benefits the Democrats either. They just keep getting sucked deeper into the Trump Deadzone and more of the differences between the Bernies and the Clintonistas are aired out in the open.

Trump really has no trouble whatsoever hyping up this emergency
https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1083061110264217600

[agrajag]

breh, that shit will get tied up in courts quicker than you can say beast mode. He would have to prove to the judges that there is a national emergency.

[Nola]

breh, that shit will get tied up in courts quicker than you can say beast mode. He would have to prove to the judges that there is a national emergency.

Although he would be doing it in increasingly conservative courts.

I actually think, from what I have read, there is the possibility he could make it through the other side by taking non-appropriated slush funds in the defense department, though it would require a level of message discipline and competency the administration and Trump has yet to show....So probably not.

[Dickie Dee]

https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1083061110264217600

<insert Mad Max clip>

[agrajag]

the whole thing was one big grift. They sent out emails to his supporters before and after the televised address asking for donations for the "official wall fund" and in small print it said that the money would go towards his reelection campaign.

 

[Joe Molotov]

Photograph taken at the Mexican/American border, circa 2019.

[Nintex]

the whole thing was one big grift. They sent out emails to his supporters before and after the televised address asking for donations for the "official wall fund" and in small print it said that the money would go towards his reelection campaign.

 

Of course it was.

The wall was 'made up' by Roger Stone because he noticed Trump would forget to talk about immigration.
So to have him remember to talk migration during his rumblings they came up with the wall.
It A/B tested pretty well with the crowd as well.

The Democrats seem to forget that they're negotiating with a deranged lunatic who wants to be at the center of attention.
Which is why he's proud of the Trump shutdown. If anything the news is all about Donald Trump again.

Warren's campaign didn't even make a blip on the radar. All the Democrats can do is talk about how they don't plan to fund a wall.
The Trump deadzone is just sucking up all the attention and talking points.

Or as he wrote (or didn't) in his book: "there is no bad publicity, all publicity is good publicity".
Which is probably why he blocked that bipartisan funding bill. Not because it lacks the wall but because he wasn't a part of it.

The media and democrats once again find themselves fighting a battle on Trump's terms. During the lunch he told them that he didn't care about the speech and it wouldn't matter much but aides told him he should do it.
He'll drag this out all the way to the supreme court if he as to unless he gets bored or something else comes up that attracts more cameras.

The reason he turned so many cabinet positions into 'acting' positions is probably because it got so much attention from the press. Did he ever name a new UN ambassador?

[TakingBackSunday]

yet again you're wrong.  he was going to sign the bill until Fox news roasted him for it.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1083099784012091396

 

[shosta]

https://twitter.com/virgiltexas/status/1082768542448189446

[james]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1083099784012091396

 

"if I quickly open things up"


Wait hold on, I thought this was the Chuck Shutdown and Trump was the victim?

[Mandark]

The reason he turned so many cabinet positions into 'acting' positions is probably because it got so much attention from the press.

why are you so desperate to believe in hiim?

[Tripon]

Eh, the reason why there's so many acting positions currently is because Trump and his administration is having a tough time finding people that are qualified, and then getting them though the senate. Trump keeps on burning bridges with his own Republican members in the senate. I think that's part of the reason why Barr hasn't been confirmed yet, Trump has given no reason to force the Senate to be as efficient as possible.

[shosta]

Finding people who are both qualified and willing

[agrajag]

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1083071675644686338

we all gonna die brehs