US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[Cream youll cave soon]

The way the Democrats have treated Omar have pushed me towards voting for Trump tbh

There’s that proof of racism you were looking for, hun. Thanks.

I knew if I waited you’d do the work for me

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1103446552524345346

 

[agrajag]

random Trump dumbfuckery is pretty funny, however

https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/1103427647520927745

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1103427923921551362

[kingv]

If we had an election cycle with no debates it would be a huge improvement. Debates are consistently dumb and useless.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/1103451387268984833

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1103476960980799488

[agrajag]

(he did it by bribing everyone with free Game of Thrones subscriptions)

[CatsCatsCats]

NEETbux

I would be pro UBI so if that’s his stunt is and it makes it a serious national topic, good for him

[shosta]

If we had an election cycle with no debates it would be a huge improvement. Debates are consistently dumb and useless.

How would Bernie have gotten from 5% to 42% without debates that the DNC tried to rig against him though?

[Occam]

Old, but America's real problem is this:




And as long as nothing is done about this, the Republican party, a party that is fighting against the common good, against nature and the future of this planet for the benefit of a select few, a party that under normal circumstances wouldn't be getting more than 10% of the popular vote will continue to get ~50%.

It doesn't matter how great a Democratic candidate is, or how bad a Republican is when half the population never hears about it.

[Nintex]

US has the same problem as every other country.
Wealth, power and fame are centralized in a few urban centers. A big part of the country is simply 'not cool' enough to care about and no one will credit a politician for fighting poverty in Pooptown Ohio. And all the people with the power would rather just focus on those thriving urban centers and support a popular vote. Trump got in their trucks, put on their hats and promoted their bible and that was enough.

Manipulative media is a symptom not the cause

[kingv]

Focusing on only big urban centers is a terrible political strategy in the US.

If anything the opposite is true here.

[Occam]

US has the same problem as every other country.
Wealth, power and fame are centralized in a few urban centers. A big part of the country is simply 'not cool' enough to care about and no one will credit a politician for fighting poverty in Pooptown Ohio. And all the people with the power would rather just focus on those thriving urban centers and support a popular vote. Trump got in their trucks, put on their hats and promoted their bible and that was enough.

Manipulative media is a symptom not the cause

I disagree with your conclusion. It took the Republican party more than 40 years of southern strategy to reach a level of public brainwashing allowing for a clown and obvious conman like Trump to be elected. Those parts of the free world without strong right-wing propaganda network in place overwhelmingly recognize Trump as the dangerous moron he is. In the U.S., roughly half the population doesn't. Trump wouldn't have stood a chance anywhere else in the world.

[Cream youll cave soon]

Focusing on only big urban centers is a terrible political strategy in the US.

If anything the opposite is true here.

The problem is; what does it mean to focus on the people outside of urban centers in the US?

They are a combination of complete idiots who vote outside of their own interests abd single issue (abortion) / religious voters. 

They are far outnumbered but then you have the electoral college, and the fact that the Senate gives huge amounts of power to States that barely even have urban centers. 

It's just completely fucked, we are doomed to be saddled with these idiots and their elected officials.

Lol sounds like we should have let that whole reconstruction thing happen as planned huh

[Occam]

Focusing on only big urban centers is a terrible political strategy in the US.

If anything the opposite is true here.

The problem is; what does it mean to focus on the people outside of urban centers in the US?

They are a combination of complete idiots who vote outside of their own interests abd single issue (abortion) / religious voters. 

They are far outnumbered but then you have the electoral college, and the fact that the Senate gives huge amounts of power to States that barely even have urban centers. 

It's just completely fucked, we are doomed to be saddled with these idiots and their elected officials.

Lol sounds like we should have let that whole reconstruction thing happen as planned huh

That certainly seems to be one of the root causes. Lincoln's assassination and his awful vice-president really screwed the U.S.

[Occam]

Anyway, the Republican party heavily relies on three undemocratic means to secure the presidency:
Gerrymandering, voter supression and a strong propaganda network. Without these, George H. W. Bush would have been the last Republican president of the past 25 years.
And look how close it was both for George W and Trump despite these means.

[Nola]

Focusing on only big urban centers is a terrible political strategy in the US.

If anything the opposite is true here.

The problem is; what does it mean to focus on the people outside of urban centers in the US?

They are a combination of complete idiots who vote outside of their own interests abd single issue (abortion) / religious voters. 

They are far outnumbered but then you have the electoral college, and the fact that the Senate gives huge amounts of power to States that barely even have urban centers. 

It's just completely fucked, we are doomed to be saddled with these idiots and their elected officials.

I honestly don't know why Democrats can't get a little more strategic minded about this shit and start pushing for things like statehood or representation for DC, Puerto Rico, and other territories? The re-emphasis on voting rights is good, but you got to do stuff to break down the Senate/electoral advantage that isn't going to just be solved with automatic voter registration.

Not only is it the morally right thing do, it would basically hand the Democrats a minimum of 4 new safe seats in the Senate.

[Nintex]

Biden may enter the race.
https://twitter.com/alexburnsNYT/status/1103666256568299521

It'll be the battle of the near 80 year olds. 

[james]

My policy is to never vote for anyone older than 62

[benjipwns]

Sherrod Brown not running, god damn it.

[benjipwns]

Bret Stephens cribbing off Marco Rubio's paper: Ilhan Omar Knows Exactly What She Is Doing

[Nintex]

David Duke supports Omar. I have to say her 4D chess game is on point.

[Joe Molotov]

Did you know Democrats founded the KKK?

[benjipwns]

The founders were John C. Lester, John B. Kennedy, James R. Crowe, Frank O. McCord, Richard R. Reed, and J. Calvin Jones.

do you think Richard R. Reed was the guy who came up with the name?

[Nintex]

Rusell Crowe founded the KKK? Figures.

[kingv]

The founders were John C. Lester, John B. Kennedy, James R. Crowe, Frank O. McCord, Richard R. Reed, and J. Calvin Jones.

do you think Richard R. Reed was the guy who came up with the name?

 No, Richard reed want to call it the KKKK

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1103707947652313088

 

[agrajag]

 

[Joe Molotov]

Racism is very offensive to me because I'm probably on the verge of having some black friends.

[benjipwns]

To be fair, Joe Lieberman makes me cry too sometimes.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/YahooFinance/status/1103757297254350848

 

[benjipwns]

"Apple Homo"

[nachobro]

tim cook can suck my nuts, didn't give us a single free day off after he took over

[Maiden Voyage]

I knew a guy named Tim Apple. He was a piece of shit.

[Kunai With Chain]

https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1103388842294472709

You could just see how proud Prince was of his answer to the first question before getting btfo by Mehdi on the follow up 

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1103388842294472709

You could just see how proud Prince was of his answer to the first question before getting btfo by Mehdi on the follow up 

"Hahahaha omg they really got Erik Prince good"

"How so what happened?"

"The Qatari funded propaganda network made a fool out of him in an interview"

"Was that the same Qatari government that backed Bush invading Iraq if he removed Saddam so he wouldn't come back to haunt them"

"Yes"

"The same Erik Prince that probably had his private army kill a journalist or two and wrote it down as "collateral damage"? "

"Yeah, that guy!"

"Hahhaha ow wow, Erik Prince will never recover from that"

[Mandark]

get butthurt on behalf of eric prince, brehs

[Kunai With Chain]

https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1103388842294472709

You could just see how proud Prince was of his answer to the first question before getting btfo by Mehdi on the follow up 

"Hahahaha omg they really got Erik Prince good"

"How so what happened?"

"The Qatari funded propaganda network made a fool out of him in an interview"

"Was that the same Qatari government that backed Bush invading Iraq if he removed Saddam so he wouldn't come back to haunt them"

"Yes"

"The same Erik Prince that probably had his private army kill a journalist or two and wrote it down as "collateral damage"? "

"Yeah, that guy!"

"Hahhaha ow wow, Erik Prince will never recover from that"

Who cares if it's Qatari funded, Al-Jazeera English is as reputable if not more so than pretty much most other news outlet including trash like BBC. If you are going to cry about this shit then I hope you are at least going to be consistent next time you link to news outlet they better not have shilled for a government. Even if you had a point about Al-Jazeera, Mehdi Hassan is legit anyway.

[benjipwns]

Nintex prefers to link to only the best journalistic sources on Twitter.

[Nintex]

Who cares if it's Qatari funded, Al-Jazeera English is as reputable if not more so than pretty much most other news outlet including trash like BBC. If you are going to cry about this shit then I hope you are at least going to be consistent next time you link to news outlet they better not have shilled for a government. Even if you had a point about Al-Jazeera, Mehdi Hassan is legit anyway.

Al Jazeera's reporting is way more dangerous and harmful than Russia Today's amateur hour fringe fiction.
They're not reputable. They're a mouthpiece of the Muslim Brotherhood and their Qatari masters.

Who cares if it's Qatari funded,

Say the same people who throw a hissy fit if Russians buy a Facebook ad. 

[Kunai With Chain]

That's Al-Jazeera Arabic, Al-Jazeera international took the same pro-rebel stance as all the other western media outlet. RT is more comparable to VOA where it's a tool of the state to promote their foreign policy agenda, whereas Qatar is too insignificant for Al-Jazeera to bother doing propaganda for outside of their Arabic channels.

[Nintex]

That's Al-Jazeera Arabic, Al-Jazeera international took the same pro-rebel stance as all the other western media outlet. RT is more comparable to VOA where it's a tool of the state to promote their foreign policy agenda, whereas Qatar is too insignificant for Al-Jazeera to bother doing propaganda for outside of their Arabic channels.

They spend billions on a shit channel no one watches that is not commercially viable because it doesn't have a foreign policy goal?

Wat? At least RT makes money.

[Mandark]

Nintex prefers to link to only the best journalistic sources on Twitter.

It's true, if you can't trust an MEK propaganda account that's hashtagging Qanon, who can you trust?

[Nintex]

Nintex prefers to link to only the best journalistic sources on Twitter.

It's true, if you can't trust an MEK propaganda account that's hashtagging Qanon, who can you trust?

You tell me marrec.

[Kunai With Chain]

That's Al-Jazeera Arabic, Al-Jazeera international took the same pro-rebel stance as all the other western media outlet. RT is more comparable to VOA where it's a tool of the state to promote their foreign policy agenda, whereas Qatar is too insignificant for Al-Jazeera to bother doing propaganda for outside of their Arabic channels.

They spend billions on a shit channel no one watches that is not commercially viable because it doesn't have a foreign policy goal?

Wat? At least RT makes money.

Pretty sure all those shit channels are pretty popular with the Arabs. Even with MBS and co. banning them. I really doubt they spend billions on Al-Jazeera English though. Also didn't realise the primary purpose of a news outlet was to make profit for the investors. How much is BBC World News making?

[Mandark]

also p sure that saying al-jazeera was propaganda in favor of the iraq war is a lie

[Joe Molotov]

also p sure that saying al-jazeera was propaganda in favor of the iraq war is a lie

Nintex can produce a two page theoretical conversation between Al-Jazeera executives and Donald Rumsfeld that backs up his claim.

[benjipwns]

On 1 April 2003, a United States plane fired on Al Jazeera's Baghdad bureau, killing reporter Tareq Ayyoub

whoops

[kingv]

I pretty clearly remember half of America calling Al Jazeera terrorist news through like 2005 primarily because it didn’t  fully endorse American military actions 

[Nintex]

also p sure that saying al-jazeera was propaganda in favor of the iraq war is a lie

I never said that. I said the Qatari government supported the Iraq war and that is true.
The US basically used their country as an airfield for the operation.

Al Jazeera sang a different tune. Always inciting conflict.

[benjipwns]

you didn't say it, it was just implied, but looking at your post I do have a further question

"Was that the same Qatari government that backed Bush invading Iraq if he removed Saddam so he wouldn't come back to haunt them"

why would Qatar fear Saddam Hussein "coming back to haunt them"?

[Steve Contra]

yeah if they were worried about being haunted they would definitely keep him alive for as long as possible

[Mandark]

you brought up qatar's position on the iraq war specifically to discredit al jazeera

to protect eric prince's feelings for some reason

[Nintex]

you brought up qatar's position on the iraq war specifically to discredit al jazeera

to protect eric prince's feelings for some reason

No, that's not what I did at all. I just find it sad that all they can do is make fun of a war criminal they themselves enabled and make it look like they scored points.

[FStop7]

Manafort.

[Mandark]

No, that's not what I did at all. I just find it sad that all they can do is make fun of a war criminal they themselves enabled and make it look like they scored points.

yes you did

why constantly lie about shit we can all see when nobody ever believes you anyway? even in the the context of posting about politics in a tiny splinter forum, that stands out as uniquely pointless

[Nintex]

No, that's not what I did at all. I just find it sad that all they can do is make fun of a war criminal they themselves enabled and make it look like they scored points.

yes you did

why constantly lie about shit we can all see when nobody ever believes you anyway? even in the the context of posting about politics in a tiny splinter forum, that stands out as uniquely pointless

Yes: you brought up qatar's position on the iraq war specifically to discredit al jazeera
No: to protect eric prince's feelings for some reason


Anyhow Manafort is out in 12 months. Justice has prevailed.

[Nola]

47 months for this blood money ratfucker and a judge that called the guidelines “excessive” and his behavior otherwise upstanding.

Meanwhile we have pot heads doing life....This fucking country sometimes

[Mandark]

No, that's not what I did at all. I just find it sad that all they can do is make fun of a war criminal they themselves enabled and make it look like they scored points.

lmao you just denied ever saying al jazeera supported the iraq war

how the fuck can you not keep track of shit you said when we're not even on a new page yet?