Author Topic: US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP (Read 5445303 times)

Nintex · « **Reply #34260 on:** April 20, 2019, 01:29:53 PM »

https://twitter.com/YahooNews/status/1119625830085398528

Is this the first time the White House released pictures just to show the President is absolutely doing jack shit.

Nola · « **Reply #34261 on:** April 20, 2019, 01:55:53 PM »

Quote from: Stro on April 20, 2019, 01:02:10 PM

Man, if impeachment charges don't come up, despite the investigation concluding that "Congress People, you can get this guy on obstruction charges", and the Dems instead run with "he's a criminal who got away with it" for 2020

seems like at least some of them are basically gonna resist anything beyond mild oversight due to the politics and claim they’re leaving it up to the American people....Though some positive signs say otherwise

Though if that responsibility shifting is where we get to, given the last time America was tasked with such a decision about punishing borderline criminal acts, we re-elected the guy that lied the country into a war.

Also lost in all this is the president has already been named an unindicted co-conspirator in a felony campaign finance violation. So on the merits alone, there is more than enough evidence to justify impeachment hearings.

Tripon · « **Reply #34262 on:** April 20, 2019, 02:07:43 PM »

Dems leadership is like Candace Owens being called on her bullshit live on CSPAN right now. Either you believe in Congress being a co-equal branch of government tasked with oversight of the Executive (and Judicial branch) or you don't. Right now Pelosi, et al. believe they aren't a co-equal branch.

BIONIC · « **Reply #34263 on:** April 20, 2019, 02:11:05 PM »

Quote from: filler on April 20, 2019, 03:32:02 AM

https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1118863356062990336

The Bire is already a homocracy, and we're doing just fine bb

BIONIC · « **Reply #34264 on:** April 20, 2019, 02:13:17 PM »

Quote from: filler on April 20, 2019, 12:29:47 PM

https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1119596832546488322

#Tulsunami

Tripon · « **Reply #34265 on:** April 20, 2019, 03:04:14 PM »

https://twitter.com/PhilipRucker/status/1119453692405735430

Old man on old man violence.

agrajag · « **Reply #34266 on:** April 20, 2019, 03:09:31 PM »

https://twitter.com/Impolitics/status/1119420425371574272

BisMarckie · « **Reply #34267 on:** April 20, 2019, 03:32:57 PM »

Politicians bickering on Twitter is something I wouldn‘t have believed if you had told me a decade ago.

Tripon · « **Reply #34268 on:** April 20, 2019, 03:40:24 PM »

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1119685443463860227

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #34269 on:** April 20, 2019, 04:23:35 PM »

No shit, like people are gonna down for treason for a dickhead.

pancakesandsex · « **Reply #34270 on:** April 20, 2019, 04:27:39 PM »

.mispost

Tripon · « **Reply #34271 on:** April 20, 2019, 05:26:31 PM »

https://twitter.com/SamSeder/status/1119097280747827201
https://twitter.com/SamSeder/status/1119100860653428743

agrajag · « **Reply #34272 on:** April 20, 2019, 05:43:55 PM »

The Bire Seder gang grows strong

team filler · « **Reply #34273 on:** April 20, 2019, 05:45:58 PM »

bordfform is my michael tracy

Mandark · « **Reply #34274 on:** April 20, 2019, 05:48:05 PM »

Seder needs to have my boy Dave Weigel on more.

Boredfrom · « **Reply #34275 on:** April 20, 2019, 06:50:03 PM »

Who are those guys?

Nintex · « **Reply #34276 on:** April 20, 2019, 08:05:44 PM »

Quote from: Tripon on April 20, 2019, 03:40:24 PM

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1119685443463860227

Guess Hope won't be coming back :'(

nachobro · « **Reply #34277 on:** April 20, 2019, 10:13:45 PM »

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/20/us/militia-arrest-border-new-mexico.html

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The F.B.I. on Saturday arrested the leader of a right-wing militia that was detaining migrant families at gunpoint near the border in southern New Mexico, as the group faced a torrent of criticism for its tactics.

Hector Balderas, New Mexico’s attorney general, said federal agents had arrested the leader, Larry Mitchell Hopkins, who had been operating under the alias Johnny Horton Jr. Mr. Balderas said in a statement that Mr. Hopkins was arrested on charges of firearms possession by a felon.

Quote

Mr. Hopkins, whose residence is in Flora Vista in northwest New Mexico, had already come under the scrutiny of groups tracking right-wing militias around the United States. He was convicted in 2006 for impersonating an officer and for felony firearm possession, according to The Daily Beast.

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Speaking to someone using a voice distorter while wearing a gas mask, Mr. Hopkins appeared on a right-wing extremist YouTube channel in November. He claimed to be in touch with President Trump after a chance meeting at a Las Vegas casino.

team filler · « **Reply #34278 on:** April 21, 2019, 12:26:08 AM »

jails filling up with right wing nutjobs thanks to trump! 4D baybee

VomKriege · « **Reply #34279 on:** April 21, 2019, 05:54:22 AM »

Quote from: Stro on April 20, 2019, 02:27:24 PM

They've already been sending Democrat leaders out on the talk shows saying their plan is to run 2020 on "He's a criminal and got away with it" like they aren't in charge of being the ones to charge him. They gave up their position before the report even came out, and now they're going to act like Trump slipped through the system and that's why it's important to vote for X in 2020.

I guess House Dems could try to play the calendar to have the proceedings as close to the campaign season as possible and / or that they are waiting for Mueller and others to testify... Or as you say that they believe it will have more political punch to go with the narrative you mention. Which I find incredibly spineless.

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #34280 on:** April 21, 2019, 09:55:28 AM »

He really is a fucking moron

Nintex · « **Reply #34281 on:** April 21, 2019, 12:34:11 PM »

https://twitter.com/CNNSotu/status/1119954855538372608

Rudy's back!

Tripon · « **Reply #34282 on:** April 21, 2019, 12:54:41 PM »

Showtime getting a little wild.

Tripon · « **Reply #34283 on:** April 21, 2019, 01:09:12 PM »

Chuck Todd: Do you think this [findings in Mueller report on obstruction of justice] is impeachable?

Rep. Nadler: ...Yeah, yeah, I do.

team filler · « **Reply #34284 on:** April 21, 2019, 01:11:20 PM »

Quote from: Dickie Dee on April 21, 2019, 09:55:28 AM

(Image removed from quote.)

He really is a fucking moron

he sounds like someone who came from a new york crime family

Nola · « **Reply #34285 on:** April 21, 2019, 01:11:51 PM »

As stupid as the Christie exchange is, it helps further establish Trump was trying to put his thumb on the scale of the investigation for reason beyond executing his duties of the office. Soliciting others to try and gain influence over Comey to end the investigation(as with Christie he does similar things to multiple people). So as dumb as the attempt was, success is not a prerequisite for obstruction.

Noting this is the same day Trump went on and proceeded to clear the room in that famous meeting and ask Comey to implicitly drop the investigation....Firing him a couple weeks later.

Also, the guy already was all but confirmed to have committed felony campaign finance violations, he's been impeachable on the merits for a couple of months....Not gonna happen though.

agrajag · « **Reply #34286 on:** April 21, 2019, 01:20:34 PM »

I bet if they actually started impeachment hearings, he'd refuse to testify before Congress.

Tripon · « **Reply #34287 on:** April 21, 2019, 02:10:24 PM »

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1120003181914857472

Did Trump ever try to cover his lies?

Tripon · « **Reply #34288 on:** April 21, 2019, 02:15:43 PM »

https://twitter.com/finneganLAT/status/1119998753136504832

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #34289 on:** April 21, 2019, 02:22:11 PM »

Remember when some people were trying to push Avenatti for President?

Yeti · « **Reply #34290 on:** April 21, 2019, 03:31:53 PM »

I think it was just Avenatti trying to push Avenatti for president

Skullfuckers Anonymous · « **Reply #34291 on:** April 21, 2019, 03:43:01 PM »

Quote from: agrajag on April 21, 2019, 01:20:34 PM

I bet if they actually started impeachment hearings, he'd refuse to testify before Congress.

Lol, implying McConnell would hold a trial if the house voted to impeach Trump.

team filler · « **Reply #34292 on:** April 21, 2019, 03:47:50 PM »

President-bae <3 looking flawless

Nintex · « **Reply #34293 on:** April 21, 2019, 04:39:50 PM »

Foreign influence you say?

https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1120044569947779072

Tripon · « **Reply #34294 on:** April 21, 2019, 04:41:58 PM »

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1120062403226624003
https://twitter.com/jbillinson/status/1119700863512129536

agrajag · « **Reply #34295 on:** April 21, 2019, 04:42:44 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on April 21, 2019, 04:39:50 PM

Foreign influence you say?
https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1120044569947779072

now that's the kind of collusion I could get behind

agrajag · « **Reply #34296 on:** April 21, 2019, 04:49:07 PM »

https://www.newsweek.com/rep-ilhan-omar-legalize-marijuana-nationwide-expunge-criminal-records-those-1402110

benjipwns · « **Reply #34297 on:** April 21, 2019, 07:27:59 PM »

Quote from: Tripon on April 21, 2019, 04:41:58 PM

https://twitter.com/jbillinson/status/1119700863512129536

wow, it's like he knows me personally

benjipwns · « **Reply #34298 on:** April 21, 2019, 07:35:58 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on April 20, 2019, 05:48:05 PM

Seder needs to have my boy Dave Weigel on more.

yikes

benjipwns · « **Reply #34299 on:** April 21, 2019, 07:37:10 PM »

Quote from: agrajag on April 21, 2019, 01:20:34 PM

I bet if they actually started impeachment hearings, he'd refuse to testify before Congress.

Apologies if I misread you but you mean Trump? No President has ever testified before Congress under subpoena. The general agreement is that Congress cannot subpoena the President, the only person they technically cannot. (The refusal of other executive branch offices stems from this, but I believe can be and has been legally challenged.)

Gerald Ford and Abraham Lincoln both testified before Congress on their own. (Both share last names with car brands, coincidence or conspiracy?) And I think Washington may have addressed one of the Houses of Congress a few times in what would be now equivalent circumstances but was determined by all to be such a disaster (due to his executive privilege to ignore questions) that it basically set a non-legal standard.

Quote from: Tripon on April 21, 2019, 02:10:24 PM

Did Trump ever try to cover his lies?

Donald Trump does not believe he ever lies. There is nothing to cover.

agrajag · « **Reply #34300 on:** April 21, 2019, 07:43:28 PM »

my b, b. I was thinking back to Bill's false testimony under oath, but that was in front of a grand jury. Cowardly Mueller didn't even subpoena him

benjipwns · « **Reply #34301 on:** April 21, 2019, 08:03:22 PM »

Bill Clinton didn't testify under subpoena either. He agreed to testify if Starr withdrew the subpoena so it wouldn't go to court and set a legal precedent.

It's actually never been decided in court exactly if a President can refuse any subpoena and when. In Clinton's case it was technically in a civil suit against him personally, not as President, so I believe most people agreed he would have trouble with it in court. A criminal case probably wouldn't go well either. But refusing a special counsel or Congress, I think they may get away with on executive privilege grounds. I admittingly have not looked much into it beyond Clinton's situation.

Nixon avoided his subpoena by resigning which seems like an unhelpful way of resolving this legal issue. The jerk.

EightBitNate · « **Reply #34302 on:** April 21, 2019, 08:06:13 PM »

Was looking at this thread when I got a call from Rasmussen polling. Very first time that happened. Neat.

benjipwns · « **Reply #34303 on:** April 21, 2019, 08:11:31 PM »

Quote from: EightBitNate on April 21, 2019, 08:06:13 PM

Was looking at this thread when I got a call from Rasmussen polling. Very first time that happened. Neat.

My bad, hit the wrong button.

shosta · « **Reply #34304 on:** April 21, 2019, 10:14:19 PM »

benjipwns · « **Reply #34305 on:** April 21, 2019, 10:25:57 PM »

hope those rules weren't too set in stone

surely they can rush something in like "must be registered member of the Democratic Party as of January 1st"?

shosta · « **Reply #34306 on:** April 21, 2019, 10:48:30 PM »

I don't have it off hand but I remember Perez assuming up front there'd be a max of ~23 people per debate. Hopefully someone can verify

Tripon · « **Reply #34307 on:** April 21, 2019, 10:49:47 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on April 21, 2019, 10:25:57 PM

hope those rules weren't too set in stone

surely they can rush something in like "must be registered member of the Democratic Party as of January 1st"?

If there's more than 20 Dems running (and qualified), the DNC is just going to pick the people they want at the debates.

I see that list doesn't have Mike Gravel or Maryanne Williamson, or that Wayne Massem guy or however you spell that name, so I think we're at 20 Dems running anyway.

Mandark · « **Reply #34308 on:** April 21, 2019, 10:51:31 PM »

The teens who run Mike Gravel's twitter account are gonna bring him to the debates Weekend At Bernie's style.

benjipwns · « **Reply #34309 on:** April 21, 2019, 11:05:38 PM »

after seeing that rock video recreation I totally support anyone requiring debate participants to establish that they are indeed alive

Tripon · « **Reply #34310 on:** April 21, 2019, 11:06:12 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on April 21, 2019, 10:51:31 PM

The teens who run Mike Gravel's twitter account are gonna bring him to the debates Weekend At Bernie's style.

https://twitter.com/MikeGravel/status/1119420418320769024

benjipwns · « **Reply #34311 on:** April 21, 2019, 11:11:44 PM »

Perez did indeed say only 20 candidates can make it if they meet the rules. For two groups of ten.

Democratic candidates announced or to be announced this week broken into groups of five for visual purposes:
1: Biden, Booker, Buttigieg, Castro, Delaney
2: Gabbard, Gillibrand, Gravel, Harris, Hickenlooper
3: Inslee, Klobuchar, Messam, Moulton, O'Rourke
4: Ryan, Sanders, Swalwell, Warren, Williamson
5: Yang

"Pending" candidates: Michael Bennett
Still "considering" but unlikely: Bill de Blasio, Steve Bullock

I assume Gravel will not make it, which means they will be hard pressed to keep out both Yang and Williamson unless they get all three of those pending/considering in, if only for the first debates to keep out the not serious* candidates. I assumed earlier and still do that the DNC would prefer having Williamson to Yang if they got to pick.

*source: former Senators John Edwards and Hillary Clinton

shosta · « **Reply #34312 on:** April 21, 2019, 11:17:28 PM »

I remember an important detail to the two groups of ten arrangement is that they'd be randomized, so no kiddie table debate.

benjipwns · « **Reply #34313 on:** April 21, 2019, 11:34:39 PM »

I've gone back and forth on which debate will get that tag anyway. Like if Biden and Sanders wind up in the same debate. Especially if one of Harris and Mayor Pete is also in that debate? And does going first let you off the hook for gaffes or will the second debate turn into a reaction debate to the first one? The first debate might only get a few hours of coverage because then it's time for the second debate and what if that one has everything that winds up dominating the cycle.

Though I have thought these type of debates are more than somewhat antiquated and useless, and Trump pretty much proved that other than that time he murdered Jeb! on stage. With the continuously ongoing forums and town halls and etc. ultimately mattering more with voters and their related interest groups, even if the media doesn't care because they aren't as involved. I imagine someone is gathering all this data somewhere.

benjipwns · « **Reply #34314 on:** April 21, 2019, 11:38:38 PM »

I was going to include Robert Francis O'Rourke in that list of second tier candidates, imagining all five as one half of a debate, but then I remembered this story I saw earlier which I have no real information about and will pretend is devastating and means the walls are closing in:

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Two top advisers to Beto O'Rourke's presidential campaign have left the former Texas representative's team.

Becky Bond and her deputy Zack Malitz, who were involved in the Democrat's failed 2018 Senate election against Republican incumbent Sen. Ted Cruz, are no longer employed by the campaign, O'Rourke spokesman Chris Evans told Buzzfeed News. Evans, however, did not respond to questions about why the pair left and whether their departures were voluntarily.

...

“Launching a presidential campaign without a big staff or even a campaign manager was no easy feat and it took everyone pitching in,” Bond said in a statement. “We’re proud to have been part of the team of deeply dedicated staff and volunteers who nearly pulled off a historic upset in the 2018 Texas Senate race and broke records launching Beto’s campaign for the presidency.”

Bond, a liberal activist who co-founded the CREDO SuperPAC, and Malitz previously worked for Sen. Bernie Sanders' 2016 presidential campaign. They are credited as being the architects behind the senator's energized network of grassroots support.

shosta · « **Reply #34315 on:** April 21, 2019, 11:47:38 PM »

benjipwns · « **Reply #34316 on:** April 22, 2019, 01:28:04 AM »

https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1119960541429149696

Sean Hannity responds, this is half of his 14 part tweet that he replied to incorrectly and stopped numbering after 12

https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/1120105761366003718

https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/1120106484669530115

https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/1120106544136359936

https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/1120107277032337409

https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/1120107994681835526

[close]

https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/1120108051871170566

BIONIC · « **Reply #34317 on:** April 22, 2019, 01:46:45 AM »

Quote from: agrajag on April 21, 2019, 04:49:07 PM

https://www.newsweek.com/rep-ilhan-omar-legalize-marijuana-nationwide-expunge-criminal-records-those-1402110

Absolutely haram

Trent Dole · « **Reply #34318 on:** April 22, 2019, 01:52:57 AM »

There being a possibility that we don't get to see Bernie annihilate Biden and Buttchug is a bummer.

Kunai With Chain · « **Reply #34319 on:** April 22, 2019, 03:16:31 AM »

https://twitter.com/MohsenSolhdoost/status/1119838200535498753

News:

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