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« Reply #34500 on: April 26, 2019, 08:24:13 AM »
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« Reply #34502 on: April 26, 2019, 08:37:42 AM »
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Let‘s begin the thottie era of US Politics. :pimp

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« Reply #34505 on: April 26, 2019, 10:02:47 AM »
:nope Boring old third-way politicians

:ohyeah Fiery young socialists
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« Reply #34506 on: April 26, 2019, 10:27:21 AM »
I Democrats knew what they were doing, they would call the GDP numbers fake news.
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« Reply #34508 on: April 26, 2019, 10:56:44 AM »
Well the left af media I consume is goin pretty hard on antibussin Biden and his corporate friends

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« Reply #34509 on: April 26, 2019, 12:27:27 PM »


this is really stunning.

Woman: "If I lose ACA, I will die. Why did you vote to repeal it?"
Grassley: "A dead guy voted against the repeal, and besides it has to pass both houses so what are you worried about??"

The party of personal accountability.

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« Reply #34510 on: April 26, 2019, 12:56:32 PM »
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« Reply #34512 on: April 26, 2019, 02:12:57 PM »
Biden jumped in late. He'll need all the money he can get.

Besides, what's so bad about showing Republicans that there is an alternative to Cobra Command?
I never got why Clinton didn't make a play for Republican voters who didn't like Trump.

Calling them all deplorable and racist surprisingly didn't get their votes.
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« Reply #34513 on: April 26, 2019, 02:17:38 PM »
I never got why Clinton didn't make a play for Republican voters who didn't like Trump.

:neogaf
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« Reply #34514 on: April 26, 2019, 03:58:07 PM »
I don't know how much you know about Copmala (I'm an expert) but:
When it comes to gun ownership in America, presidential aspirant Kamala Harris has shot herself in the foot.

At a time when Democrats are toughening their positions on gun control and seeking to make it a core issue in the 2020 campaign, the California senator has conceded that her personal relationship with guns is unique among the major Democratic presidential contenders. She owns a handgun, a campaign aide told CNN.

This under-publicized revelation comes as Harris is getting a lot of ink for being tough about guns. Her words are fine, but for a progressive like me, they are undermined by that handgun. And I can't be the only one who is disturbed.
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Harris, a former DA, apparently thinks it's fine to own a handgun for personal safety. That's a position held by the NRA, not progressive Democrats.

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« Reply #34515 on: April 26, 2019, 04:18:09 PM »
Thank god we have the host of Candid Camera to ask the real questions.

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« Reply #34516 on: April 26, 2019, 04:28:57 PM »
Harris is cancelled
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« Reply #34517 on: April 26, 2019, 05:01:16 PM »
Harris has secured the Cindi vote

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« Reply #34518 on: April 26, 2019, 06:11:46 PM »
Kamala: "I have a gun"

Biden: *pulls up in his corvette* "Heya fella's" *pops trunk* "check out uncle Joe's 12 gauge Remington"

Warren: "This bow belonged to my great great grand father"

Sanders: *loudly proclaims he's never owned a gun*

Trump: *signs executive order blocking UN gun control* *pulls out 6 shooter and starts shooting at the feet of CNN reporters* "Guns are fantastic"

Rudy on CNN: "By god Jake, I've been a prosecuter for 25 years, what country are we living in that a person can't peacefully unload his gun at reporters without people saying it's a crime."
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« Reply #34519 on: April 26, 2019, 06:14:53 PM »
https://twitter.com/EmmaVigeland/status/1121414825614159872

Help us, creepy uncle. You're our only hope.

ngl I thought that was a Trump quote for a minute.

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« Reply #34520 on: April 26, 2019, 06:36:30 PM »
Oh god I liked a nintex fanfiction post


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« Reply #34521 on: April 26, 2019, 06:47:38 PM »
Biden nomination shares are tanking on predictit right now, time to money your mouth, Glen

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« Reply #34522 on: April 26, 2019, 07:05:20 PM »
Buy some Beto stock. He probably won't get to the top, but he has enough name recognition and mass media appeal to improve his stock. :money

Sell or short Andrew Yang. :success

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« Reply #34523 on: April 26, 2019, 07:09:48 PM »
Oh god I liked a nintex fanfiction post

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The bow line was good.  :trumps

It’s too bad about Liz Warren and her ancestry.com shit.

In some ways I think she is the best candidate. But she’s never going to get past that as a Democrat.

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« Reply #34524 on: April 26, 2019, 07:11:08 PM »
Biden nomination shares are tanking on predictit right now, time to money your mouth, Glen

Apparently everyone forgot who Biden is.

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« Reply #34525 on: April 26, 2019, 08:01:17 PM »
But she’s never going to get past that as a Democrat.

It's the post-Trump world, where decades of political convention is made up and the rules don't matter. Who knows? :idont

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« Reply #34526 on: April 26, 2019, 08:03:19 PM »
Also this is just me struggling as much as possible to avoid the election cycle (or it was until I unhid this thread), but was there anything actually wrong with Warren's DNA thing or did people start popping the Trump Pocahontas pill?

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« Reply #34527 on: April 26, 2019, 08:10:58 PM »
Also this is just me struggling as much as possible to avoid the election cycle (or it was until I unhid this thread), but was there anything actually wrong with Warren's DNA thing or did people start popping the Trump Pocahontas pill?

It was almost nothing to declare herself having native american ancestry.

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« Reply #34529 on: April 26, 2019, 08:19:27 PM »
Also this is just me struggling as much as possible to avoid the election cycle (or it was until I unhid this thread), but was there anything actually wrong with Warren's DNA thing or did people start popping the Trump Pocahontas pill?

It was almost nothing to declare herself having native american ancestry.

From what I saw:

Warren pre-2000s: "My family said we have Native American ancestry, soooo just gonna pop that on some forms without actually checking."

<decades later>

Warren: "Our family lore is that a grandparent or great-grandparent was Native American."

Trump: "POCAHONTAS! FAKE INDIAN!"

Warren: "Here's the DNA results showing one of my great-great-grandparents was probably Native American."

People: "Wow I can't believe Warren is still pretending to be Native American."

Me: ???



Also...

Nobody:

Some Native American leaders: "DNA doesn't equal identity/tribal membership!"

Warren: "...I never said it did? :confused"

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« Reply #34530 on: April 26, 2019, 08:22:15 PM »
Dude... she apologized.

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« Reply #34531 on: April 26, 2019, 08:23:37 PM »
If Joe Biden is the Democrats best bet, then they're in trouble.

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« Reply #34532 on: April 26, 2019, 08:26:08 PM »
Dude... she apologized.

Yeah but people apologize for nontroversies all the time. Was this actually legitimate? What'd she do? :thinking I never actually understood the heart of the controversy because both sides (:teehee) seemed to be deliberately misunderstanding the other and spinning shit six ways to Sunday.

The anti-Warren sentiment made more sense when it was about her potentially misrepresenting herself to get ahead, but that's been debunked (to my satisfaction.) So the DNA thing after that just seemed like a lot of smoke and no fire in comparison.

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« Reply #34533 on: April 26, 2019, 08:29:35 PM »
 :doge

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« Reply #34534 on: April 26, 2019, 08:31:24 PM »
Also gonna do a Hot Take here and say it was probably better for her to bite the bullet and dive on the DNA sword ahead of her candidacy announcement than her getting trapped in a media tidal pull of "WHY WON'T SHE ADDRESS IT, IT'S BEEN FOUR YEARS SINCE TRUMP STARTED SAYING POCOHANTAS."

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« Reply #34535 on: April 26, 2019, 08:38:53 PM »
Still hard to believe that Trump tricked Warren into nuking her politicial aspirations from orbit by herself with a word salad

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« Reply #34537 on: April 26, 2019, 10:02:16 PM »
Also gonna do a Hot Take here and say it was probably better for her to bite the bullet and dive on the DNA sword ahead of her candidacy announcement than her getting trapped in a media tidal pull of "WHY WON'T SHE ADDRESS IT, IT'S BEEN FOUR YEARS SINCE TRUMP STARTED SAYING POCOHANTAS."

I said basically this at the time. The point wasn't that she could ever stop Trump from repeating it, but she could maybe head off endless "Warren Refuses To Address Growing Questions" headlines. Refusing to dignify the swift boat stuff for so long didn't seem to do John Kerry any favors.

The DNA test and the fancy video rollout wasn't the way to go (if you're a Dem and you're going to address issues of native ancestry, CONSULT ACTUAL INDIGENOUS PEOPLE) but it feels like people are elevating it to "campaign-ending disaster" with the same logic they did with the Dean Scream.

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« Reply #34538 on: April 26, 2019, 10:29:08 PM »
I don't know if I'll ascribe it to The Dean Scream because that happened after he already lost, as you note, and had self-kneecapped himself in going after Dick Gephardt endlessly until all of Iowa was offended at them both. (Bringing us the rise of his lord and savior, John Edwards. :rejoice)

The problem I thought tactically with the Swift Boats was probably that they ever did acknowledge it and try to counter it, even if using proxies, officially above board and on the record. Pulling the whole "it's offensive you even ask that, and anyway here are all my personal records and my best friends telling you otherwise, please read in detail, also please read my official campaign biography by your fellow reporter in detail" move always gives the media more smoke to chase after.

The fact that Warren decided she had to deal with this, of all things, before launching her campaign and being first out of the gate, probably indicates they had some serious polling feedback on it that seemed negative. Which probably is all you need to know about everything.

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« Reply #34539 on: April 26, 2019, 10:31:04 PM »
John Edwards should run again now that we know that cheating on your wife ain't no thang anymore, and possibly even a requirement to be president.
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« Reply #34540 on: April 26, 2019, 10:33:11 PM »
Yes. He should run on nothing but that. Try to lean into it like Bill would.

"Free college? Like for those chicks I cheated on my cancer dying wife with?"
"Gun control? I need penis control!"

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« Reply #34541 on: April 26, 2019, 10:36:14 PM »
Also do things like say "I'd like to hear Representative Gabbard's take on this subject" and then make pervy faces.

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« Reply #34542 on: April 26, 2019, 10:49:01 PM »
A recurring theme from reporting is Dem voters really want someone who can beat Trump, and the fact that Warren's already been tagged by one of his magic nicknames seems to be as important an aspect of this as anything.

Wanting to find someone who can win also seems to be a big part of Biden's support which is weird given his history of getting crushed every time he runs for president.

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« Reply #34543 on: April 26, 2019, 10:55:00 PM »
Biden's never lost a general election. :bolo

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« Reply #34544 on: April 26, 2019, 11:07:11 PM »
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« Reply #34546 on: April 26, 2019, 11:26:04 PM »
Also this is just me struggling as much as possible to avoid the election cycle (or it was until I unhid this thread), but was there anything actually wrong with Warren's DNA thing or did people start popping the Trump Pocahontas pill?

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Warren did not use a direct-to-consumer test kit, such as 23andMe or AncestryDNA. Instead, she consulted the expertise of a leading population geneticist, Carlos Bustamante.

Statistical genetics rely on well-established facts about DNA inheritance. A quick recap in case you’ve forgotten your high-school biology: People inherit half of their genetic material from each parent and, with every generation, roughly half of that genetic information is lost. Even meiotic-recombination events—the crossing over of chromosomes when two gametes meet, which can explain diversity of traits within the same family—originally thought to be random, can be mapped to statistically predictable regions of the genome.

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If you compare your genetic information with that of members from a reference population, you can estimate how long ago an ancestor belonged to that population based on statistical patterns of inheritance.

But your estimate is only as good as your reference.

Bustamante could not use U.S. tribal groups as a reference, because many have declined to participate in genomics studies and have refused to deposit DNA in publicly available databases. (More on that later.)

In the case of Warren’s individual DNA test, Bustamante resorted to what he considered the next best reference: 37 individuals from Mexico, Peru, and Colombia. According to Western scientists—who prefer migration theories that are culturally incongruent with indigenous origin stories—indigenous individuals from these countries represent the closest “sampled” biological relatives to Native Americans (that is, to those who originally inhabited what is now the United States).

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/what-make-elizabeth-warrens-dna-test/573205/

Bunk science, basically.

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« Reply #34547 on: April 26, 2019, 11:27:02 PM »
I was hoping the story was worth "being extorted by Oliver North" over like Iran-Contra but it's just lame ol embezzlement:
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Longtime National Rifle Association leader Wayne LaPierre has told the group’s board he is being extorted and pressured to resign by the organization’s president, Oliver North, over allegations of financial improprieties, in an extraordinary battle roiling one of the nation’s most powerful nonprofit political groups.

In a letter sent to NRA board members late Thursday afternoon, LaPierre, the group’s CEO and executive vice president, said he refused the demand. Instead he called on board members to “see this for what it is: a threat meant to intimidate and divide us.”

North sent his own letter to the board late Thursday evening, in which he said his actions were for the good of the NRA and that he was forming a crisis committee to examine financial matters inside the organization, according to people familiar with its contents.

North previously had sent a longer letter to the board’s executive committee detailing new allegations of financial improprieties involving more than $200,000 of wardrobe purchases by LaPierre that were charged to a vendor, according to the people. One of those people described LaPierre’s letter as an “angry reaction” to North’s longer letter.

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« Reply #34548 on: April 26, 2019, 11:27:35 PM »
https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1121545978815885313

  :confused

I've been listening to a bunch of 538 podcasts to get the centerist view on the race and literally everyone on the podcast about 2020 Dem primary horse trading had Biden on the top of their boards.

So yeah, they (538) think Biden in the fav.

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« Reply #34549 on: April 26, 2019, 11:28:56 PM »
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Two times during Barack Obama’s tenure, I criticized the 60 Minutes correspondent Steve Kroft for asking softball questions when interviewing the president.

Last night, I expected Sean Hannity would fail the American public similarly in his interview with President Donald Trump. But it wouldn’t be fair to beer-guzzling amateurs playing recreational slow-pitch to compare what I saw to softball.

T-ball is closer to the mark.

At the interview’s end, Hannity said this about his approach to asking questions: “Sometimes I know when you do other interviews that people want to play gotcha. But every once in a while, I think it’s important for the American people to hear you in answer in your own words at length on some important issues.”
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LAME LAME LAME

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« Reply #34550 on: April 26, 2019, 11:53:22 PM »
I've been listening to a bunch of 538 podcasts to get the centerist view on the race and literally everyone on the podcast about 2020 Dem primary horse trading had Biden on the top of their boards.

So yeah, they (538) think Biden in the fav.
It's probably because he's been leading in the polls all year and that's their wheelhouse more than anything*:


*except counting and weighting the value of endorsements still for some reason even as they write articles about how badly this method has failed and how both parties have moved away from superdelegate type systems

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looking at Harris and then O'Rourke and now MAYOR PETE's rise in that chart, now I hope we do this with all other 19 candidates:
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edit: also just noticed that if you add up RCP's averages rounding up the .5 or greaters, it now surpasses 97 points (and there's more 0.3 candidates they don't show), it wasn't that high that long ago (as you can see in the chart, when Biden and Sanders both go up along with everyone else) so people have started picking temporarily and stopped "other" or "not sure" which is a fun sign
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« Reply #34551 on: April 27, 2019, 12:39:45 AM »
Speaking of campaign turning points and narratives, I think Rick Perry saying you had to feel some sympathy for immigrants was worse for him than forgetting which federal department he wanted to get rid of.


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« Reply #34553 on: April 27, 2019, 12:42:09 AM »
does anyone want to keep putting ilhan omar's face next to pictures of 9/11 now or nah?
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« Reply #34554 on: April 27, 2019, 12:47:49 AM »
does anyone want to keep putting ilhan omar's face next to pictures of 9/11 now or nah?
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« Reply #34555 on: April 27, 2019, 12:50:23 AM »


i bet people already have done this

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« Reply #34556 on: April 27, 2019, 12:51:26 AM »
Benji stop you're going to get people killed
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« Reply #34557 on: April 27, 2019, 12:54:54 AM »
i had to do one more


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« Reply #34558 on: April 27, 2019, 12:55:47 AM »
remember when snl made fun of dan crenshaw and then people acted offended so they brought him on

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« Reply #34559 on: April 27, 2019, 01:00:16 AM »
are you saying benji should invite Ilhan Omar to the Bore?