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Cauliflower Of Love

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50340 on: February 22, 2020, 09:26:57 AM »
This people.

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Bernie Sanders, the Teflon Candidate, Faces Sudden New Tests
The Vermont senator has long brushed off political vulnerabilities and evaded attacks from rivals. But the spotlight on his front-runner status and possible Russian interference could pose challenges.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/22/us/politics/bernie-sanders.html

:lol

people are scared.


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1231062038979411970

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1231062039617064960

absolute B E A S T  :rejoice

Come to think of it, trump is the ultimate russian bernie bro.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50341 on: February 22, 2020, 11:06:32 AM »

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50342 on: February 22, 2020, 11:17:25 AM »
just need a kremlin asset on the libertarian ticket too :rejoice
You think Putin's that bad with money?

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50343 on: February 22, 2020, 11:36:17 AM »
"joe beyer, AMY SOMETHING, other lady"

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50345 on: February 22, 2020, 11:44:36 AM »

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50347 on: February 22, 2020, 12:00:58 PM »
I think it's Third Way that are the ultimate true centrists. "No opinion / Not important" for every answer is how they'd fill out one of those political quizzes.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50348 on: February 22, 2020, 12:11:38 PM »
majority bonus rules are what allowed Mussolini to consolidate power. in the age of trump we should never let demagogues convince us to abandon democracy - even left leaning ones
You know what's funny about this, Italy post-war established a similar law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Italian_general_election
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The election was characterized by changes in the electoral law. Even if the general structure remained uncorrupted, the government introduced a superbonus of two thirds of seats in the House for the coalition which would obtain at-large the absolute majority of votes. The change was hugely opposed by the opposition parties as well as the smaller DC coalition partners, which had no realistic chances of success. The new law was called Scam Law by its detractors,[3] including some dissidents of minor government parties who founded special opposition groups to deny the artificial landslide to the Christian Democracy.
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The complaint campaign of the oppositions against the Scam Law reached its goal. The Centrist coalition (DC, PSDI, PLI, PRI, SVP, PSAZ) won 49.9% of the national vote, coming just a few thousand votes short of the threshold for a two-thirds majority.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50349 on: February 22, 2020, 12:26:25 PM »
Speaking of delegate shenanigans, can anybody point to any reporting during the stretch in 2016 when the Sanders campaign was publicly trying to flip the superdelegates?

I'm curious whether that was an actual effort or if it was a pretense to delay dropping out for other reasons.


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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50351 on: February 22, 2020, 12:38:05 PM »
Speaking of delegate shenanigans, can anybody point to any reporting during the stretch in 2016 when the Sanders campaign was publicly trying to flip the superdelegates?
I don't remember anything specific but I know that it happened in the first week of June... and to be honest it always seemed more like vague suggestions about how the process could go in their favor, not a real attempt. Because Sanders never had the party connections or leverage necessary to even try something like that.

My pet theory is that they were hanging in there in case Hillary got indicted (Comey didn't hold his press conference until a month later) but they didn't want to say that was the reason.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50352 on: February 22, 2020, 12:38:12 PM »
Speaking of delegate shenanigans, can anybody point to any reporting during the stretch in 2016 when the Sanders campaign was publicly trying to flip the superdelegates?

I'm curious whether that was an actual effort or if it was a pretense to delay dropping out for other reasons.

There's a quote going around where Sanders was saying superdelegates should vote for him because he was a more electable candidate than Hillary was. Here's Jeff Weaver's publicly calling their strategy for the convention. Like you, I don't know if it was a serious effort.

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Despite badly lagging in the delegate count, Bernie Sanders' campaign manager told NPR the campaign believes Sanders can and will be the Democratic nominee by winning over superdelegates at the 11th hour.

"If we can substantially close the gap between Secretary Clinton and Sen. Sanders in terms of pledged delegates," Jeff Weaver told NPR's All Things Considered, "he can go into the convention with a substantial momentum from having won the vast, vast majority of states at the end of the process."

It's a sharp contrast from earlier in the campaign when Sanders supporters called superdelegates "undemocratic" and petitioned for them to support the candidate who has the most votes by the Democratic convention this July.

"When they get to the convention," Weaver continued, "nobody has the delegates to win with pledged delegates. It's going to be the superdelegates who are going to have to decide this."
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"Now we can argue about the merits of having superdelegates," Weaver continued, "but we do have them. And if their role is just to rubber-stamp the pledged-delegate count then they really aren't needed. They're supposed to exercise independent judgment about who they think can lead the party forward to victory."

Weaver added that superdelegates don't vote until they actually go to the convention, and he considers their allegiances as movable as poll numbers.

If by the convention Sanders has "substantial momentum" and has substantially "closed the gap" in pledged delegates, Weaver said, "I think there's a strong argument to be made to superdelegates that they should take another look."
https://www.npr.org/2016/05/19/478705022/sanders-campaign-now-says-superdelegates-are-key-to-winning-nomination

Now, if the Sanders campaign was trying to strong arm the DNC and superdelegates in general in 2016 to back them privately, I don't know.



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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50353 on: February 22, 2020, 12:42:50 PM »
What leverage would the Sanders campaign have to strong arm the DNC and superdelegates? Weren't they behind by more than the superdelegates?

edit: nope, superdelegates were the difference, but Bernie needed nearly ALL of them to win, so they likely wanted an abstain on the first ballot
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50354 on: February 22, 2020, 12:43:02 PM »
https://twitter.com/MeetThePress/status/1231263111233097730

Trump wants his opponent to be Sanders, ergo Russia and Trump are colluding to nominate Sanders.  :neogaf
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50355 on: February 22, 2020, 12:50:22 PM »
What leverage would the Sanders campaign have to strong arm the DNC and superdelegates? Weren't they behind by more than the superdelegates?

edit: nope, superdelegates were the difference, but Bernie needed nearly ALL of them to win, so they likely wanted an abstain on the first ballot

Yeah, I don't think it a serious effort to convince a group of literal insiders by a campaign that was made up of the fringes (at the time) that they knock out Hillary and install Bernie at the top of the ticket.


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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50356 on: February 22, 2020, 12:51:58 PM »
An abstain on first ballot by superdelegates would have meant neither Hillary nor Sanders went over, so there would have been a second ballot and the delegates are freed on the second ballot, so theoretically pledged Hillary delegates could have then voted for Sanders.

That was the rule change for this time, the superdelegates only vote after the first ballot.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50357 on: February 22, 2020, 12:54:04 PM »

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50358 on: February 22, 2020, 01:01:50 PM »
10am, time to get out of bed and go vote for Elizabeth Ann Warren

What happens when you're late to the caucus? Also, go to Nabe Hot Pot in Chinatown. That place was amazing when I went last week, all you can eat for $26.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50359 on: February 22, 2020, 01:02:08 PM »
https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1231228920743198721

Look at this Russian propaganda. If Donald Trump does not send in the CIA to arrest Bernie Sanders and ship him to Gitmo with his Russian handlers he's clearly working with Putin against American Democracy.  :shaking
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50360 on: February 22, 2020, 01:10:09 PM »
10am, time to get out of bed and go vote for our insurance, health insurance thing
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50361 on: February 22, 2020, 01:32:31 PM »
I held up the line flirting with my check-in volunteer

She's also my precinct captain so I'm gonna see if I can get her number by the end of the day

Don't make her sign an NDA at the end of tonight.  :hump :wag

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50362 on: February 22, 2020, 01:34:26 PM »
I held up the line flirting with my check-in volunteer

She's also my precinct captain so I'm gonna see if I can get her number by the end of the day
Watch out for Russian honey pots.
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Cauliflower Of Love

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50363 on: February 22, 2020, 01:45:07 PM »
shosta is a terrible flirt fyi

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50364 on: February 22, 2020, 01:58:50 PM »
*shosta posts Donald Trump meme on The Bore . com unaware his precinct captain could see his phone screen*

Captain: "Eeewww you are a Trump supporter, get out!!"

Shosta: "No, I'm here to vote for Warren, I'm just joking on this internet message board I swear"

Bernie Bro's: "He's a CENTRIST! GET HIM!"
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50365 on: February 22, 2020, 02:10:05 PM »
I held up the line flirting with my check-in volunteer

She's also my precinct captain so I'm gonna see if I can get her number by the end of the day

Is there a precinct admiral?
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50366 on: February 22, 2020, 02:13:58 PM »
take a selfie with the group  :-[
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50367 on: February 22, 2020, 02:26:43 PM »
shosta is a terrible flirt fyi


Nah he’s pretty okay I’ve seen it


Edit to clarify: he’s definitely engaging, and that’s a big part of what counts in flirting
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50368 on: February 22, 2020, 02:28:36 PM »
I have 1% and I’m out havin a Spanish coffee for breakfast but I look forward to reading of your exploits shost

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50369 on: February 22, 2020, 02:33:13 PM »
There are a bunch of black Pete voters here

Show them some of your favorite black statistics memes. Could be a great ice breaker.
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50371 on: February 22, 2020, 02:36:14 PM »
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Bernie Sanders went ballistic at NBC and MSNBC execs ahead of the Democratic debate this week — jabbing one top TV exec repeatedly in the face with his finger and accusing the networks of offensive negative coverage.

Surging Sanders stormed through the walk-through for the Las Vegas debate, singling out one top producer at the end and aggressively sticking his finger in his face. One shocked witness said, “Bernie marched right up to NBC and MSNBC’s head of creative production and began jabbing his finger right in his face, yelling, ‘Your coverage of my campaign is not fair . . . Your questions tonight are not going to be fair to me.’ ”

Sanders did not hold back as he continued to rant about MSNBC coverage. According to the witness, “The NBC exec told Sanders he would be treated fairly.”

A separate insider confirmed the confrontation, saying Sanders was so steamed he also sparred with MSNBC boss Phil Griffin outside the green room moments before the debate began. “Sen. Sanders stated, ‘Phil, your network has not been playing a fair role in this campaign. I am upset. Is anything going to change? . . . I hope you will do better.’ ”
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Todd was also tackled by seething Sanders onstage after the debate: “I do not appreciate your comment about my supporters,” adding the Holocaust reference was “offensive.”

Sanders’ campaign manager Faiz Shakir has said that even Fox News has been “more fair than MSNBC . . . which . . . is constantly undermining the Bernie Sanders campaign.” He told Page Six on Friday, “MSNBC has not been fair to our campaign. Their coverage is condescending on a daily basis. No other campaign gets such negative coverage. Enough is enough.”
This is literally how Putin treats the media. #DropOutBenard #BernieKnew #VoteForInsurance #BanBenardAndKillHim

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50372 on: February 22, 2020, 02:39:30 PM »
Trump is right if Bernie is nominated the media is actually going to endorse him  :doge
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50373 on: February 22, 2020, 02:42:15 PM »
Yeah, they’ll switch to other menthods of undermining him when he’s elected

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50374 on: February 22, 2020, 02:42:53 PM »
Don’t you love when 1% lasts forever? It’s like that scene in 300

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50375 on: February 22, 2020, 02:44:09 PM »
"Trump maintains second place in head-to-head national poll, Vermin Supreme in third"

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50376 on: February 22, 2020, 02:47:30 PM »
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50377 on: February 22, 2020, 02:49:57 PM »
DEMOCRATS IN DISARRAY
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50379 on: February 22, 2020, 02:52:47 PM »
Just give Bernie the nom already and no one will question it, he’s the obvious front runner, amirite?


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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50380 on: February 22, 2020, 02:53:06 PM »
I blame shonda
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50381 on: February 22, 2020, 02:56:38 PM »
I can report that no Nevada Caucus precincts were open in Michigan, I believe this is yet another explosively chaotic Democratic caucus, likely due to Russian interference to favor the Sanders campaign.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50382 on: February 22, 2020, 02:58:38 PM »
This endless caucus chaos that's overtaken all of Nevada and thrown the entire party into chaotic disarray is likely to overshadow the Bloomberg debate performance and show now more than ever why we need a billionaire who has run companies under his name in charge permanently to take over and handle things without any advisors or laws or anything else holding him back.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50383 on: February 22, 2020, 03:04:06 PM »
Vermont doesn't even have party registration.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50384 on: February 22, 2020, 03:08:50 PM »
My fucking bum of a dad didn't even show up :maf
one less biden supporter
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50385 on: February 22, 2020, 03:11:35 PM »
My fucking bum of a dad didn't even show up :maf

Did your whole family move to Nevada? Why the move?
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50386 on: February 22, 2020, 03:19:30 PM »
up to Chris Matthews saying he's going to fucking kill people if he gets elected.
Won't he?

https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1230350575335858178

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50387 on: February 22, 2020, 03:30:15 PM »
Reports are flying in that it's a bernie landslide

Everyone else should retire and support the one true unity candidate
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50388 on: February 22, 2020, 03:35:29 PM »
Everyone else should retire and support the one true unity candidate
:klob

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50389 on: February 22, 2020, 03:39:03 PM »
first alignment: Bernie got 20 people out of 32
Biden: 2
Warren: 4
Pete: 5
Yang: 1

Thank you for recording this in case they change results.
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50391 on: February 22, 2020, 03:42:22 PM »
Bernie got 20 people out of 32
F to the 12 brave freedom fighters who the Sandernistas just executed :usacry

benjipwns

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50392 on: February 22, 2020, 03:45:54 PM »
announce that you had been Russian interfered with and actually wanted to caucus for Amy

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50393 on: February 22, 2020, 03:46:45 PM »
Prediction: Bernie gonna win big today.

Then he's gonna respond that he wants everyone in the US to vote before nomination.

democratic establishment: :pika

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50394 on: February 22, 2020, 03:47:39 PM »
After early votes, the only viable groups are Bernie and Liz

This can't be right after all the reports of massive Klobmentum. :klob

Amy for America should challenge these results. :karen

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50395 on: February 22, 2020, 03:49:35 PM »
Her results are probably being recorded under Elena.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50396 on: February 22, 2020, 03:49:58 PM »
what does the MATH even stand for?

also why is an asian man running on MATH?
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50397 on: February 22, 2020, 03:52:30 PM »
Yang dropped out eleven days ago, Cindi

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50398 on: February 22, 2020, 03:52:50 PM »
make american think hard i think?

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50399 on: February 22, 2020, 03:53:04 PM »
Yang dropped out eleven days ago, Cindi

I know! I'm referring to his hat! He's still selling it despite dropping out.
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