Author Topic: US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP (Read 6993305 times)

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #50280 on:** February 21, 2020, 05:15:40 PM »

So Sanders was briefed on this a month ago, and trump only briefed yesterday?

Holy shit, is Bernie president already?

I wonder if they trump told the agencies to pass it along to see when it leaks, and trump couldn't hold his poker face before nevada.

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #50281 on:** February 21, 2020, 05:20:35 PM »

This is the day Bernie became president.

Occam · « **Reply #50282 on:** February 21, 2020, 05:23:43 PM »

Richard Grenell Begins Overhauling Intelligence Office, Prompting Fears of Partisanship
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/21/us/politics/richard-grenell-dni.html

Shocking if true.

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #50283 on:** February 21, 2020, 05:25:47 PM »

Right after Bernie said he would hold up putin to the wall, msnbc commentators say he's a dove and wouldn't do anything against russia.

team filler · « **Reply #50284 on:** February 21, 2020, 05:39:48 PM »

https://twitter.com/sadydoyle/status/1230915142768103427

Trurl · « **Reply #50285 on:** February 21, 2020, 05:40:34 PM »

All I know is that having a kneejerk reaction of "BERNIE IS A RUSSIAN AGENT" makes the electorate easy to manipulate. Don't do the opposite of what the propaganda says, try to tune it out and turn it off.

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #50286 on:** February 21, 2020, 05:48:52 PM »

It's pretty crazy to imagine that trump, known for not wanting to listen to security briefings, was watching the debates and that russia thing kicked something off in his brain, that probably made him ask the advisors. "well actually sir........" and then trump fires people and starts talking about the classified information in public.

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #50287 on:** February 21, 2020, 05:50:12 PM »

Quote from: Cauliflower Of Love on February 21, 2020, 05:25:47 PM

Right after Bernie said he would hold up putin to the wall, msnbc commentators say he's a dove and wouldn't do anything against russia.

bernie putting people against the wall, wow, communist dictator much #matthewswasright

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #50288 on:** February 21, 2020, 06:08:40 PM »

How big of a dickhead does pete "it reflects on you, what your supporters say" buttigieg feel like right now?

Nintex · « **Reply #50289 on:** February 21, 2020, 07:44:02 PM »

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1231015007799955458

Is that what happened to Biden?

benjipwns · « **Reply #50290 on:** February 21, 2020, 08:00:05 PM »

Quote from: https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/editorials/endorsement-sen-amy-klobuchar-for-democratic-presidential-primary/

For Washington state, U.S. Sen. Amy Klobuchar is the best choice to advance to the general election in the crucial effort to unseat President Donald Trump.

She is an effective third-term senator with a strong track record of leading initiatives whether her party was in power or not, working across the aisle when it served her state and the nation. The Minnesotan is no demagogue, titillating voters with political impossibilities like Medicare for All.

Rather, Klobuchar is a pragmatic and authentic progressive who wants to make actual progress on many issues especially important to Washington, such as immigration, climate change and trade.

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And the daughter of a former newspaperman is an unabashed supporter of the free press, government transparency and the role the U.S. plays as a model for supporting the press around the world. She wants to look at how antitrust laws could help ensure a robust and independent free press providing local news in communities.

Our goal with this endorsement is not to predict the election. Sanders, Warren, Joe Biden and Pete Buttigieg are far ahead of Klobuchar in raising money from Washington donors, according to the Federal Elections Commission. Rather, this endorsement comes after considering the candidates’ experience, records and issue positions — especially how they relate to significant Washington issues.

While Klobuchar might seem like a longshot so early in the process, she is a Democrat for whom moderates of both parties and independents can vote. The prospects of early delegate leader Sanders having such broad appeal are not so clear. Buttigieg’s intelligence and military service make him a compelling candidate, but his experience as mayor of a small Indiana city does not give him the foundation for the presidency. Bloomberg, well, he’s got problems — and not just about what he suggested were merely offensive “jokes.”

Quote from: https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/editorials/article/Editorial-Chronicle-recommends-Amy-Klobuchar-in-15074770.php

This nation desperately needs a change in course. For all the metrics that suggest the United States is on the right track — economy booming, crime falling — all is not well. Our international stature is declining, our gap between rich and poor is widening, our respect for the rule of law and individual rights is under siege, our sacred obligations to give future generations a chance at the American dream and to defend the planet against the ravages of climate change are all but evaporating.

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So the choice comes down to which candidate has the experience, the toughness, the sensibility to maintain the party’s base and appeal to independents and disenchanted-with-Trump Republicans in November.

Amy Klobuchar is the one Democrat who checks all the essential boxes. She is seasoned (13 years in the U.S. Senate, lead Democratic sponsor on more than 100 passed bills) with a history of winning Republican strongholds and solid on the party’s baseline issues while pragmatic enough to avoid the promises (free four-year college regardless of income, erasing all college debt) that are easy to make and impossible to fulfill.

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Meanwhile, Amy Klobuchar repeatedly has shown under fire in the debates and town halls that she is a listener with a wickedly quick sense of humor that can make her point effectively and with civility. She has the skills to unite the Democratic Party after this nomination fight — no small task — and, if elected president, restore the integrity, discipline and dignity that the office deserves.

benjipwns · « **Reply #50291 on:** February 21, 2020, 08:18:44 PM »

https://twitter.com/abbydphillip/status/1230985873979854848

https://twitter.com/revmagdalen/status/1231017026618970112

https://twitter.com/SydOutLoud/status/1231018006119141381

spoiler (click to show/hide)

https://twitter.com/Bros4America/status/1231014979370749953

https://twitter.com/DailyPolitics14/status/1231024303883288576

https://twitter.com/PalmerReport/status/1231003206605508610

https://twitter.com/lasagnalizard/status/1231022434771521537

https://twitter.com/SueZeeQueueC/status/1231021401596932097

https://twitter.com/mackenzieblaire/status/1230993167178256384

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bdoughty · « **Reply #50292 on:** February 21, 2020, 08:25:10 PM »

Shocking development. Pre-Impeach the Bern!

I still think the winner for the week is Katie Hill claiming "Biphobia" is a thing and that thing cost her a job.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #50293 on:** February 21, 2020, 08:26:08 PM »

Soviets helping a commie get into the White House. Ya love to see it.

Trurl · « **Reply #50294 on:** February 21, 2020, 08:28:34 PM »

This is pretty frustrating. Any reaction to foreign meddling amplifies the meddling. I'm hoping that this is obvious enough that only people who already hate Sanders will lean into this, but it's disappointing.

I'm sure that it's already increased divisions which was probably the main intention anyway.

benjipwns · « **Reply #50295 on:** February 21, 2020, 08:29:58 PM »

Quote from: bdoughty on February 21, 2020, 08:25:10 PM

I still think the winner for the week is Katie Hill claiming "Biphobia" is a thing and that thing cost her a job.

Her week is still going: https://theintercept.com/2020/02/21/fbi-arrests-hacker-linked-to-katie-hill-campaign/

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FEDERAL AGENTS HAVE arrested Arthur Dam in connection with a hacking spree that disrupted the 2018 Democratic California primary that ultimately nominated Katie Hill, according to a new criminal complaint.

Dam, in the criminal complaint, is linked directly to the Hill campaign. Hill won the general election in California’s 25th District and then later resigned from Congress amid controversy.

“Dam was found to be connected to the cyber attacks through subscriber information, IP addresses, geolocation history, and open sources, including through his employer and his wife, K.O., who worked for one of the Victim’s opponents,” the complaint reads.

Dam’s wife is Kelsey O’Hara, Hill’s fundraiser during the campaign and her district director after she won office. O’Hara was also the subject of a sexual remark made by Hill and caught on tape by Vice News in 2018. In Hill’s Federal Election Commission records, she lists a $500 in-kind contribution from Dam on March 25, 2018, for “graphic design and website security consultation.”

During the campaign, the websites of Hill’s opponents, Democrats Jess Phoenix and Bryan Caforio, who was supported by Justice Democrats, were both attacked, though Hill’s never was, raising suspicions at the time that Hill’s campaign was behind them. One major attack on Caforio’s campaign website came at a crucial moment, just an hour before the biggest debate of the primary, the complaint notes. Hill eventually won the California primary by fewer than 3,000 votes.

The FBI launched a probe that zeroed in on the Hill campaign in 2019, according to FBI correspondence reviewed by The Intercept.

Nintex · « **Reply #50296 on:** February 21, 2020, 08:31:39 PM »

https://twitter.com/girlsreallyrule/status/1230898781278867458

Watch Larry slowly sober up and talk the markets from -1.00% to -0.90%

https://twitter.com/LouDobbs/status/1231016848587710464

"be careful larry"

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #50297 on:** February 21, 2020, 08:43:27 PM »

democraps

"noooo, stop, you can't have a motivated base that is enthusiastic about voting for you, that's trump tier. you need to be so fucking boring turnout drops enough we win, somehow"

Tripon · « **Reply #50298 on:** February 21, 2020, 08:55:00 PM »

https://twitter.com/WIRED/status/1231032571988979713

Russia Russia Russia

TVC15 · « **Reply #50299 on:** February 21, 2020, 08:55:27 PM »

omg omg omg a lyft driver just had the most stilted, phony pro-Bloomberg conversation with me. There were some obvious campaign conversation points he was paraphrasing, including such hits as:

- “I think Bloomberg knows enough about money that he can get things done in ways others don’t even know about. How is Bernie going to pay for all that stuff?“
- (Note: He ASKED ME WHO I VOTED FOR immediately after greeting me when I first got in and I was shocked by the blunt initial question, so I uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhed for like a block and a half and then said I didn’t vote yet. It was probably the most obvious lie in history. But I never mentioned Bernie.)
- “The democrats are going to need republican support to win this.”
- “I don’t think democrat or republican matters much anymore, do you?”
- “Senate democrats wouldn’t support Bernie if he won/it’d be just as gridlocked.”

There was at least one more mentioning Bernie. I 1-starred the dude and didn’t tip since Mike is apparently tipping for me. Driver was really young, college age, and non-cac.

I was smiling by the end of the ride! It’s like I found a unicorn!

kingv · « **Reply #50300 on:** February 21, 2020, 09:01:52 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on February 21, 2020, 08:00:05 PM

Quote from: https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/editorials/endorsement-sen-amy-klobuchar-for-democratic-presidential-primary/
For Washington state, U.S. Sen. Amy Klobuchar is the best choice to advance to the general election in the crucial effort to unseat President Donald Trump.

She is an effective third-term senator with a strong track record of leading initiatives whether her party was in power or not, working across the aisle when it served her state and the nation. The Minnesotan is no demagogue, titillating voters with political impossibilities like Medicare for All.

Rather, Klobuchar is a pragmatic and authentic progressive who wants to make actual progress on many issues especially important to Washington, such as immigration, climate change and trade.
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And the daughter of a former newspaperman is an unabashed supporter of the free press, government transparency and the role the U.S. plays as a model for supporting the press around the world. She wants to look at how antitrust laws could help ensure a robust and independent free press providing local news in communities.

Our goal with this endorsement is not to predict the election. Sanders, Warren, Joe Biden and Pete Buttigieg are far ahead of Klobuchar in raising money from Washington donors, according to the Federal Elections Commission. Rather, this endorsement comes after considering the candidates’ experience, records and issue positions — especially how they relate to significant Washington issues.

While Klobuchar might seem like a longshot so early in the process, she is a Democrat for whom moderates of both parties and independents can vote. The prospects of early delegate leader Sanders having such broad appeal are not so clear. Buttigieg’s intelligence and military service make him a compelling candidate, but his experience as mayor of a small Indiana city does not give him the foundation for the presidency. Bloomberg, well, he’s got problems — and not just about what he suggested were merely offensive “jokes.”

Quote from: https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/editorials/article/Editorial-Chronicle-recommends-Amy-Klobuchar-in-15074770.php
This nation desperately needs a change in course. For all the metrics that suggest the United States is on the right track — economy booming, crime falling — all is not well. Our international stature is declining, our gap between rich and poor is widening, our respect for the rule of law and individual rights is under siege, our sacred obligations to give future generations a chance at the American dream and to defend the planet against the ravages of climate change are all but evaporating.
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So the choice comes down to which candidate has the experience, the toughness, the sensibility to maintain the party’s base and appeal to independents and disenchanted-with-Trump Republicans in November.

Amy Klobuchar is the one Democrat who checks all the essential boxes. She is seasoned (13 years in the U.S. Senate, lead Democratic sponsor on more than 100 passed bills) with a history of winning Republican strongholds and solid on the party’s baseline issues while pragmatic enough to avoid the promises (free four-year college regardless of income, erasing all college debt) that are easy to make and impossible to fulfill.
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Meanwhile, Amy Klobuchar repeatedly has shown under fire in the debates and town halls that she is a listener with a wickedly quick sense of humor that can make her point effectively and with civility. She has the skills to unite the Democratic Party after this nomination fight — no small task — and, if elected president, restore the integrity, discipline and dignity that the office deserves.

She will chew Trump up

https://twitter.com/skylxr_x/status/1230024271910535168

Tripon · « **Reply #50301 on:** February 21, 2020, 09:07:13 PM »

https://twitter.com/merica/status/1230961108942348288

El Babua · « **Reply #50302 on:** February 21, 2020, 09:14:49 PM »

Quote from: TVC15 on February 21, 2020, 08:55:27 PM

omg omg omg a lyft driver just had the most stilted, phony pro-Bloomberg conversation with me. There were some obvious campaign conversation points he was paraphrasing, including such hits as:

- “I think Bloomberg knows enough about money that he can get things done in ways others don’t even know about. How is Bernie going to pay for all that stuff?“
- (Note: He ASKED ME WHO I VOTED FOR immediately after greeting me when I first got in and I was shocked by the blunt initial question, so I uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhed for like a block and a half and then said I didn’t vote yet. It was probably the most obvious lie in history. But I never mentioned Bernie.)
- “The democrats are going to need republican support to win this.”
- “I don’t think democrat or republican matters much anymore, do you?”
- “Senate democrats wouldn’t support Bernie if he won/it’d be just as gridlocked.”

There was at least one more mentioning Bernie. I 1-starred the dude and didn’t tip since Mike is apparently tipping for me. Driver was really young, college age, and non-cac.

I was smiling by the end of the ride! It’s like I found a unicorn!

Probably getting paid $3K a week by ol' Bloomie to do that

Tripon · « **Reply #50303 on:** February 21, 2020, 09:16:09 PM »

https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1231038266905939969

TVC15 · « **Reply #50304 on:** February 21, 2020, 09:25:22 PM »

Quote from: El Babua on February 21, 2020, 09:14:49 PM

Quote from: TVC15 on February 21, 2020, 08:55:27 PM
omg omg omg a lyft driver just had the most stilted, phony pro-Bloomberg conversation with me. There were some obvious campaign conversation points he was paraphrasing, including such hits as:

- “I think Bloomberg knows enough about money that he can get things done in ways others don’t even know about. How is Bernie going to pay for all that stuff?“
- (Note: He ASKED ME WHO I VOTED FOR immediately after greeting me when I first got in and I was shocked by the blunt initial question, so I uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhed for like a block and a half and then said I didn’t vote yet. It was probably the most obvious lie in history. But I never mentioned Bernie.)
- “The democrats are going to need republican support to win this.”
- “I don’t think democrat or republican matters much anymore, do you?”
- “Senate democrats wouldn’t support Bernie if he won/it’d be just as gridlocked.”

There was at least one more mentioning Bernie. I 1-starred the dude and didn’t tip since Mike is apparently tipping for me. Driver was really young, college age, and non-cac.

I was smiling by the end of the ride! It’s like I found a unicorn!

Probably getting paid $3K a week by ol' Bloomie to do that

Just think of the stories he’ll be telling his grandkids. “Back in my day, I worked 2 gig jobs at once just to make it through school.” Wait, that isn’t outlandish. Fuck. Think before type.

Transhuman · « **Reply #50305 on:** February 21, 2020, 09:44:20 PM »

I love how quickly the conversation has shifted from "Bernie can't win" to "even if Bernie did win, it's not like they'd let him do anything"

Trurl · « **Reply #50306 on:** February 21, 2020, 10:05:22 PM »

Electing a democratic socialist is the ideal way to get the rest of the government to reassert itself after this imperial presidency.

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #50307 on:** February 21, 2020, 10:27:54 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on February 21, 2020, 08:18:44 PM

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https://twitter.com/abbydphillip/status/1230985873979854848

https://twitter.com/revmagdalen/status/1231017026618970112

https://twitter.com/SydOutLoud/status/1231018006119141381

spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/Bros4America/status/1231014979370749953

https://twitter.com/DailyPolitics14/status/1231024303883288576

https://twitter.com/PalmerReport/status/1231003206605508610

https://twitter.com/lasagnalizard/status/1231022434771521537

https://twitter.com/SueZeeQueueC/status/1231021401596932097

https://twitter.com/mackenzieblaire/status/1230993167178256384
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Imagine being salty at Bernie for being able to not spread classified information for more than a few hours.

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #50308 on:** February 21, 2020, 10:30:56 PM »

Quote from: Tripon on February 21, 2020, 09:16:09 PM

https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1231038266905939969

No more retweets !

Quote from: Transhuman on February 21, 2020, 09:44:20 PM

I love how quickly the conversation has shifted from "Bernie can't win" to "even if Bernie did win, it's not like they'd let him do anything"

They're gonna a be so fucked in the general when the campaign turns on the "this senator doesn't want you to have medicate for all, donate 27 cents and we will disappear them"

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #50309 on:** February 21, 2020, 10:31:59 PM »

so today's "news" summarized: russia is backing BOTH Sanders and Trump for presidency?

fucking centrists

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #50310 on:** February 21, 2020, 10:33:51 PM »

Quote from: OnlyRegret on February 21, 2020, 10:31:59 PM

so today's "news" summarized: russia is backing BOTH Sanders and Trump for presidency?
fucking centrists

Reading the era thread on this and people not knowing that Russia was boosting Hillary as well as trump and Bernie is fantastic.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #50311 on:** February 21, 2020, 10:52:54 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on February 21, 2020, 08:18:44 PM

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https://twitter.com/abbydphillip/status/1230985873979854848

https://twitter.com/revmagdalen/status/1231017026618970112

https://twitter.com/SydOutLoud/status/1231018006119141381

spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/Bros4America/status/1231014979370749953

https://twitter.com/DailyPolitics14/status/1231024303883288576

https://twitter.com/PalmerReport/status/1231003206605508610

https://twitter.com/lasagnalizard/status/1231022434771521537

https://twitter.com/SueZeeQueueC/status/1231021401596932097

https://twitter.com/mackenzieblaire/status/1230993167178256384
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Reading through some of those tweet threads made me want to saw the top of my head off and rip out my own brain.

benjipwns · « **Reply #50312 on:** February 21, 2020, 10:54:31 PM »

You're welcome.

benjipwns · « **Reply #50313 on:** February 21, 2020, 10:57:58 PM »

another new hashtag

https://twitter.com/littledeekay/status/1230989579651600387

https://twitter.com/kerryfjacob/status/1231045677662142464

https://twitter.com/PalmerReport/status/1231053763701547008

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #50314 on:** February 21, 2020, 11:03:59 PM »

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1231048989631483904

benjipwns · « **Reply #50315 on:** February 21, 2020, 11:09:56 PM »

https://twitter.com/dancer39532/status/1231028293920489472

benjipwns · « **Reply #50316 on:** February 21, 2020, 11:13:39 PM »

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #50317 on:** February 21, 2020, 11:15:45 PM »

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Can’t this guy take responsibility for anything? Bernie Sanders has spent the past month refusing to inform the public that the Kremlin has been trying to help his campaign. And now that the media has finally broken the story wide open, he’s accusing the media of having timed the story to try to hurt his chances in Nevada

thisismyusername · « **Reply #50318 on:** February 21, 2020, 11:19:57 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on February 21, 2020, 11:13:39 PM

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Daddies.

benjipwns · « **Reply #50319 on:** February 21, 2020, 11:20:29 PM »

Bernie just makes my skin crawl.

eleuin · « **Reply #50320 on:** February 21, 2020, 11:22:20 PM »

Is it too late for the russians to help jeb

benjipwns · « **Reply #50321 on:** February 21, 2020, 11:24:18 PM »

Bernie might as well be a Republican with all this Russian Communism he loves so much he probably wants to marry it and then honeymoon in it.

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #50322 on:** February 21, 2020, 11:33:49 PM »

I like biden jumping into the russian news, just in case people forgot no one cares about him.

kinda sad :'(

Pete's "not a democrat" plays so well with msnbcs "not a real person" idea of bernie. It's hilarious watching all the male anchors letting their pansexualness slip out with those blue eyes.

Tio Bernie!